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UPDATE: It's Official, Lane To USC- Chow Rumored To Follow

According to sources at ESPN, Lane Kiffin will leave Tennessee to take the head job at USC. Before I get to the fun of this move, let's take a look at the one thing that I think is really relevant to UCLA.

According to the sources, Kiffin will bring his father and defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin, and assistant head coach and recruiting coordinator Ed Orgeron to Southern Cal with him

While there are a lot of things to say about Orgeron, he has proven that when given some specific resources, which he'll have at USC and you guys can fill in on the specifics, he can do an outstanding job recruiting. He will definitely make snagging any recruits tougher. That's not to say that CRN and Co. won't be able to get their own guys, but there will be increased competition for them now. We also know that when it comes to X's and O's Monte Kiffin is about as good as there is on the defensive side of the ball.

Back to Lane, this is definitely an interesting move by USC. If they were to go after a former assistant, I figured it would be Sarkisian because with the exception of one or two very minor things, he's been clean at Washington. The NCAA has take several hard looks at Kiffin in just one year at Tennessee so I think this says a lot about the respect USC has for the NCAA. If nothing else though, having Lane on the opposing sideline will make beating SC that much sweeter because SC and Lane are perfect for each other. In addition, I like that I can root for Tennessee and their tremendous fans again without Lane hanging over my head. The Vols deserve much better and hopefully they get it with their next hire.

Make sure you tune in at 8:15 pm PST tonight for the football podcast with Justin Hickman. We'll get his insight on the Bruins, plus Josh and I will recap the season and definitely discuss this hire by the boys across town.

UPDATE: Scott Wolf at the LA Daily News also has SC hiring Lane. To be fair to Wolf, it looks like he was on the Kiffin news first.

We've heard from 2 sources that Lane Kiffin will be USC's next football coach.
UPDATED: Announcement expected shortly.

UPDATE II: The LAT has it now. That's three major sources all confirming that Lane is SC's hire so I think we can call it a done deal. Apparently, Lane will talk to the Vols shortly. Things should be fun!

Lane Kiffin has called a team meeting for 6 p.m. PT tonight to talk to his team.

UPDATE III: USC's official site has it now so we're calling this one official. Lane is USC's head coach with Monte and Orgeron joining him.

UPDATE IV: According to ESPN's Shelley Smith, Norm Chow will follow Lane to USC. Nothing official yet and just one report, but it wouldn't be unfathomable so we'll stay on it. For what it's worth, I'm not willing to call this anything more than a rumor right now, but I'm going to throw the information out there and let you take it for what it's worth.

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Unbelieveable - Lamey's always looking for the next best opportunity

"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."

by S Jay Bruin on Jan 12, 2010 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

This guy's a real SCumbag

should fit in real well over there, but really doing UT like that is a huge new low.

"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."

by S Jay Bruin on Jan 12, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Rumor

Nothing has been said by either university

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Lane Sleezeball Kiffin

What a sleezeball!!! Lane probably has not signed the mortgage on his house in Knoxville yet. This the guy USC wants? Now he does have great Asst Coaches. Normie will have to step up his game next year against Monte’s defense.

BruinFloyd 2000

by bruinfloyd on Jan 12, 2010 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

I have to say

This rivalry just got titanic… hahaha Real good versus evil type shit

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

wow

U of T fans must be loving this…. Lane will help bring down USC even faster.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 5:49 PM PST reply actions  

Raider Fan

Even Raider fan is ripping Kiffin in the LATimes blog. This is getting better by the minute. Kiffin now has immediate credibility issues leaving Tenn like that. With scandal clouds looming I’m still betting CRN and other major power houses will stil take major advantage on the situation.

CRN: You should come to UCLA, at SC your coach will bail as soon as sanctions hit.
Recruit: Where do I sign?

GOOOO BRRRUUUIIINNNSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Feel sorry for Tennessee

They thought they finally has their man, a young, energetic, edgy coach who would put them back on the map. And then just like that…BAM. They find out just what happens when you hire SCum.

Given that Kiffin set a record for violation during his short time there, this move proves just how stupid Mike Garrett is. I hope neither of them ever leave.

by Sideout11 on Jan 12, 2010 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

They are pissed

and understandably so. Given that, I’m of the opinion that this is better for them in the long run and I hope it turns out well for them.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

I've heard

that he went to the Tenn AD and they didn’t want to pony up the money to keep him. That might be why they are mad. LIttle do they know that this might be the best thing that could have happened to them. They are actually classy fans and I hope they get something better.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Asst Coaches

Honestly, I think the new coaches Kiffin brings are better than the previous coaches that Cheatey Petey had. We ought to have some good battles. Honestly I think Lane can recruit very well, but they’ll be on sanctions in 3 years.

BruinFloyd 2000

by bruinfloyd on Jan 12, 2010 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

And I think Lane's assistant coaches

are both better choices to be head coach than him

by Sideout11 on Jan 12, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

well

they should be on sanctions by summertime, right?

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Best thing about it

Layla Kiffin is gonna be in the same state a us!

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 5:54 PM PST reply actions  

SUC should get the death penalty for this hire

How can you have all the crap that went on there and then hire a guy who has had three NCAA violations in the past 12 months?

SUC is giving the NCAA the middle finger. If the NCAA doesn’t hit them hard, they should just quite enforcing any rules.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 12, 2010 5:56 PM PST reply actions  

Was thinking the same thing

If there was any doubt in the NCAA’s mind over screwing over a poor new coach for Petey’s sleaziness, that went away with this hire.

by zinlinez on Jan 12, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

Lane is a terrible coach; Money Monty will retire before USC is off of probation, and Eddy will be too bored with losing to do his job

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Surprised on a number of levels.

First, surprised Kiffin would leave so quickly, considering that he had a good contract at Tennessee. (Not surprised that he’d be a scumbag about it).

Second, also surprised that USC would take him for the aforementioned “why would they hire a sketchy guy when already under the microscope” reasons.

And third… a bit disappointed since Kiffin is a good hire, especially given that he’s bringing Monte and Orgeron with him. Don’t think there’s going to be a big hit, if any, in USC’s recruiting.

by Magnusblitz on Jan 12, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

This is lovely, but it will be a staff upgrade for SC

Monte Kiffin is the best defensive mind around - but he’s 70- and Orgeron recruits like hell. I’m not scared at all of the offensive side, however.

by bluebland on Jan 12, 2010 5:58 PM PST reply actions  

TMZ is going to love Layla

The only thing that doesn’t have me peeing my pants from laughing so hard is Orgeron and Monte Kiffin. Lane, though…man, that guy is the perfect USC guy. Reminds me exactly of Greg Marmalard from Animal House.

by Westwood Wizard on Jan 12, 2010 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

Not bad for the good guys from my perspective

There is no real evidence that LK is or will be a consistent winner. His record at Oakland — no proof there. His record at UT — could not beat us. It shows the issues SC is having attracting a top flight coach which says they know they are in trouble with the NCAA despite all their statements. We may not like it but this is one of the best jobs in college football and they got a “promising star with baggage”????

He may turn out to be the star of all stars. But it could have been a lot worse.

Good staff guys. I think that is something we should be assume from the cross town rivals.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 12, 2010 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

Can't wait

to hear the drivel he’ll spew regarding CRN to “rally the troops” at his press conference.

by deepdish on Jan 12, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions  

This is a good hire for $c but I don’t no how much kids will trust him with all the moving around

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions  

what has he accomplished to make you think he is a good hire?

Underacheived as OC at SUC, not good with the raiders, .500 at Tennessee, left UT with NCAA investigating multiple rules infractions.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Terrific news for UCLA

Lame has never proven that he can be a head coach at any level. Combine that with his multiple NCAA missteps when he started at Tenn, and this hire is great news for the Bruins.

by Ajax on Jan 12, 2010 6:05 PM PST reply actions  

As Silverlake said

It’s a big middle finger to the NCAA. I really doubt that they are going to be given a slap on the wrist now. No way. We beat him once and with the sanctions negating the talent gap, I think we will continue to do so until he’s demoralized enough to leave or Petey comes back.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

This. Is. Awesome.

I cannot be happier. Great choice, USC! You just picked someone who has a losing record against Neuheisel. Way to go!

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Live in Memphis...

Vol fans in Memphis are red hot. Kiffin better get out of dodge at midnight before one of those rednecks shoot him like a Possum. Sports radio in Memphis will be priceless tomorrow. If you want to listen to Sports 56 WHBQ check out thier website and stream live. http://www.sports56whbq.com

BruinFloyd 2000

by bruinfloyd on Jan 12, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Secondly

This is absolutely awful for USC’s pull with the NCAA. Kiffin was already in a bunch of hot water at UT because of secondary violations, and this hire does nothing to remove the giant flashlight pointed at USC.

This is a immensely stupid hire by USC. I don’t understand it – at all. But I’m thrilled.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

Agree w/whoever commented that it is a stunt to save this years's recruiting class

Daddy Kiffin is a good addition as DC, and given $c’s “resources” as Ryan put it, O can recruit. But given $c’s current circumstances, a stupid hire.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jan 12, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

I think this is nothing more than a hire to save this year’s recruiting class for USC – which it certainly will help. As for every other aspect of this hire, it makes no sense. None.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s lane that worries me it’s the staff he brings with him

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

he does have a great staff.

BruinFloyd 2000

by bruinfloyd on Jan 12, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

he has a great defensive coordinator

He has a below average offensive coordinator (Lane Kiffen)

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmmm...

well my 1st thought is maybe Neu should get back to recruiting Brandon Willis.

"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09

by Blue Me on Jan 12, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

Forgot about that

You can bet we will be on him, but so will UNC, where I expected him to commit before.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 12, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

south carolina much closer to UNC

south carolina much closer to UNC

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden

by avtwvi on Jan 12, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

is ed O really all that?

lame’s a $¢umbag, not to mention he ain’t all that bright. monty’s a good DC but please he’s gettin up there in age. is orgeron really supposed to make me nervous?

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden

by avtwvi on Jan 12, 2010 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

He's a proven recruiter

with familiarity with the talent in the area.

by deepdish on Jan 12, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This guy will be perfect

We were bewailing the fact sc might bring in somebody with integrity and honor and we would have nothing to talk about, Well, thanks to the football Gods—we have Pete Carroll cubed (for those of you who never went to the south end of campus that is a mathematical term which means—well I don’t know what it means—but it means like a lot dude.) Lane Kiffin gives corruption, double talk, and disloyalty a bad name. This guy attracts the NCAA like an Al Quada commander in Nothern Pakistan attracts drones. (You like that Marine bruin?) This knuckhead will give Bruins Nation 3 guaranteed years of laughs, derivise commentary, and hopefully 3 years of Bruin football victories (he’ll only last 3 years), This character has no proven record of college performance as a head coach, What a great day to be a Bruin.

Let her rip.

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Let the games begin!

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW guys

Monte turns 70 next month.

How long do you think he stays around for?

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

Apparently Monte was very active on the recruiting trail

and is still going strong. Working with his son, he’s also right there with family and his grand kids and all that stuff so I expect him to be around as long as his health allows it.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 12, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

But health as a 70 year old is not a given, neither is having the same level of energy, alertness or attentiveness. Wouldn’t bank on him being the same Monte Kiffen in 5 years that he is today professionally.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

kiffin is a good recruiter

but is he as good as pete carroll? no matter who they have, we still have a guy in CRN that can go head to head with anyone

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

Disappointed in Lane
Lane Kiffin has called a team meeting for 6 p.m. PT tonight to talk to his team.

Come on Lane, time to get back into Trojan mode—just send them a text message.

by Westwood Wizard on Jan 12, 2010 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Reasoning...

I think Garrett knew that he had to hire someone to TRY to match the intensity, passion, relentless work ethic and attitude that Coach Neu has. He has to go young. Don’t sleep on Orgeron. Ole Miss has been winning with his talent that he recruited the last few years. He still has receuiting ties in the South.

BruinFloyd 2000

by bruinfloyd on Jan 12, 2010 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

I guess SC

will never know what it feels like to have a coach with class. Lame is just Cheatey’s MiniMe.

BIg Q: What does this mean regarding Brandon Willis? Poor kid, just commits to UT and then WHAMO! Is he back in the mix for us? Does he go to SC? Or back to FSU?

At least all the great Tennessee fans will have a chance to have the caliber of coach they deserve.

UCLA's most famous athlete: Jackie Robinson
U$C's most famous athlete: OJ Simpson

'Nuff said

by Cade McAdverb on Jan 12, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Look I hate the scum across town as much as anyone. That being said give credit were it is due Ed o brought in great classes and Monte kiffin is old yes but maybe a top 5 DC of all time. I don’t want to wait for him to retire I haven’t seen us beat there ass since Cade mcnown was qb. Ya I no 13-9, but I missed I was in fallujah at the time and we didn’t have tv. I thought people were screwing with me when they said we won.

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

most importantly is we have 2 straight wins over kiffin

lets make it 3 straight this season, then start a real nice streak at sc’s expense

by realfabfive on Jan 12, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

I think we can dispense with "Lane"

in favor of “Lame”

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

IMO they chose Kiffin because he can keep their recruits...

by ensuring that the ‘benefits’ will still be there.

I wish the NCAA would grow some balls and slam that program back to the stone age. They deserve FAR worse than SMU.

by longbordr52 on Jan 12, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

Lame couldn't play SEC football

So he’s back home thinking he’s gonna walk on us. Well, CRN beat him once and he’ll do it again. Watch the NCAA now. This will not go unpunished as they look lower than clowns. Might as well give up if they don’t smack SUC hard.

This was really a hire to preserve the class they have now because that’s all they have.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

If they dont smack USC hard,

I’ve had it with the NCAA and its lack of cojones. I know my viewpoint my not be in the majority, but I do think this is a pretty good hire for SC. I think so much of college football is recruiting, and I think Orgeron and Kiffin will be successful IF the NCAA lets them off easy. I’m not convinced Kiffin is a great head coach in the least, but if he has the same recruiting “resources” that Petey had, I’m not gonna be as happy as I was watching nervous Petey in the presser yesterday.

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he's a good coach

At least he hasn’t proven himself as one. Besides, he’s a known quantity. I would worry more if they got someone like Peterson, someone on the rise who is an unknown in the PAC-10.

All this says is: “We want to keep our current class together because we are getting sanctioned hard soon so let’s bring in Lame.” They must think they can’t be hit harder than what they are going to be hit with. So I’m thinking they are getting hit pretty severely.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

"Be quick but don't rush"

Everybody knows who said that—Coach said it. This is wonderful—sc had to rush. The headspinning turn of events clearly caught Mike Garrett, the most corrupt athletic director in America, off guard—that picture at the Carroll’s farwell press conference was worth a thousand words. It would seem that Mr. Garrett offered the job to several coaches who turned him down. And with no head coach to head up recruiting—he had to rush—and Coach always said, “Be quick but don’t rush.”

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

And...

In making this pick, Mike Garrett rushed. (Once a running back, always a running back.) (Pun intended.)

by FilmBruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Just sc is Just Stupid

or we’ve all underestimated their level of cockiness. With all that is going around, they hire Mr. Violations? Retards.

by BlueReign on Jan 12, 2010 6:28 PM PST reply actions  

Nest Year's Game at the Rose Bowl

is going to be just epic. I’m not missing that for anything – possibly including a wedding and/or a funeral.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

Rick and Bruins

are 1-0 versus Lane as a head coach. Let’s run that streak up!

by Vanman7475 on Jan 12, 2010 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

F*****************K

Norm Chow deal to USC along with Lane Kiffin, on ESPN news right now

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

EDSBS'

post on this is pretty epic. Their first sentence is a YouTube embed of SMB’s “Take the Money and Run”. ROFL.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

Mike leach that’s who we need

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

Yeah, we need a big name offensive coordinator….

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Losing Chow

Makes me hate them more…who would think that was possible?

by BruinThenNowAndForever on Jan 12, 2010 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

If true

it will be fun to imagine how the egos will get along.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

I guess it all makes sense

SUC gets a guy who fits their “win at all cost” mentality; energetic and charismatic who’ll provide plenty of soundbites, recruit well, and keep them on the map. Lane pulls his own “Pete Carroll” on UT as they brace for their own NCAA investigations, knowing he’s got 3-5 years before his trangressions catch up with him and then he’ll move on to his next gig.

A match made in “heaven”.

"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09

by Blue Me on Jan 12, 2010 6:50 PM PST reply actions  

Any chance we keep him that would really screw us with recruits

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

What the fuck?

Norm chow? Why?

by bruin578 on Jan 12, 2010 6:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Thats it!

Never trust anyone from SC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I just posted yesterday....

Really thought Chow found a new home with the Bruins and was planning to stay to see the kids he helped recruit mature.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

calm down

the sc site makes no mention of this. Don’t believe til you see it.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN article

In another part of the blockbuster staff changes, a deal is being finalized for longtime offensive coordinator Norm Chow to return to the Trojans in the same capacity, sources close to the school told ESPN’s Shelley Smith.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If he goes

Oh well. If they allow them to get away with this without real sanctions, I’m turning off college football.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

The NCAA

better know that

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

Mike leach if it is true though this could be a kiffin media stunt but if not I guess this could be the first guy to jump ship which mean ad guerro needs to get someone great and not take him for granted

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

Leach as an OC would be a good hire

but it would really mess with the recruiting class. Our crown jewel is Malcolm Jones, who doesn’t exactly fit in an Air Raid offense.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I fear jones might not be coming if chow leaves

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow chow is scum if he did this scum

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 6:58 PM PST reply actions  

Espn news reporting he's gone

If so, like Adam sandlers sidekick said in waterboy, “oh no, we suck again.”

by bruin578 on Jan 12, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Chow/Kiffen

Wasn’t Kiffen the reason why chow left? I thought they disliked each other? Why would chow go work for Kiffen now?

by IamSPDRCR on Jan 12, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Exactly

Norm Chow wouldn’t… I would be more concerned about Chow going to the NFL with the Seahawks…

NORM CHOW IS NOT GOING TO U$C*

by TheWokman on Jan 12, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not 100 percent

its unlikely, but not rediculous to think of that

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like SCum hype

It seems awfully quick for Chow to agree to join a Kiffen staff.

by CMK on Jan 12, 2010 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

ICan this really be true this is worse than Afghanistan CRN needs to get moving on keeeping his guys

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

Norm Chow to USC is on the ticker on ESPN….

Oh well.

by BruinGold82 on Jan 12, 2010 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

well,

looking at he sc site. they make no mention of hiring norm chow at all. If kiffin had really made this a condition for his return they’d have something already about him. They only mention daddy kiffin and Ogre.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

if chow is actually gone, we should go after mike leach

he would have good ties to texas in terms of recruiting and hes a great offensive mind

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

pmr@ncaa.org
To Whom it May Concern,

If you allow the University of Southern California to blatantly skirt NCAA rules time and time again without serious sanctions, then allow them to cherry-pick another scandal-ridden coach who is leaving his last university with violations that occurred on his watch, and let them pluck one of the best offensive coordinators in college football, I will never watch another college football game again nor will I purchase any merchandise. Enough is enough.

You either stand up as an organization and assure that the rules that everyone else follows are asserted against USC or I will stop funding your organization in any way I can.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

Doesn't this entire hiring process

Remind you of a really strange booty-call?

“Hi, baby, I know we last talked in 2004, but I just broke up with my girlfriend and I need to be held…tonight.”

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

If this is true...

it might be the best thing to happen. It will give CRN a chance to have complete autonomy over the offense. He will be able to use his players how HE feels they will most successful.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

You have no clue

What Chow has done to this offense

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Trust me...

i know the guys is amazing. But if he leave then we move on. I trust CRN has a pretty good offensive mind so I will not worry too much.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm worried

About Chow with a buttload of talent

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

that honestly worries me more that him not being a Bruin – him at SC with all the guys they have there.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Heimuli?

Chow was just courting recruits a couple days ago!!!!!!!!!!

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson

by AMM19 on Jan 12, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It's nothing more than a rumor

I wish I could get more info

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

This is so strange

chow was loving his job and was really looking forward to next year. I think this is a rumor. Chow is a guy who takes his time with these kind of decisions.

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson

by AMM19 on Jan 12, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Was he?

I wish we knew!

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

i remember he

waited about a couple days before joining rick’s staff

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson

by AMM19 on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

If I don't recognize

The name of the reporter, I don’t believe it

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the thing

people have been trying to bring his name up everytime the sc new coaching gig came up. I think this is just a rumor that has taken off. Let’s hope so.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you think 03?

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Possible

Still need a big name OC in the next week to keep the recruiting momentum.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

FWIW, according to Gold

Neuheisel says he knows nothing about this. So that’s either good, or makes him a little slow on the up-take. Again, take it FWIW.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

wow!!!

so much for loyalty. thanks Norm if it’s true.

by Bruins095 on Jan 12, 2010 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

apparantly there are riots on Tennessee campus and players are furious

these Chow to sc talks better be rumors or I’m really gonna lose it

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

This is horrible, but...

Why, WHY would anyone want to go there with all the horrible sanction possibilities looming? If all this stands it is actually WORSE than having the incompetent cheatie peatie over there.

by sponkey21 on Jan 12, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

Kiffin was 4th choice at best

There is no way Chow would agree to come on as OC without knowing who the coach was. From all of the reports, the Kiffin thing moved very fast. I don’t see how they could have gotten his deal done and then moved on to Chow’s in such a short amount of time.

by CMK on Jan 12, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

in a matter of 3 hours this all materialized

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson

by AMM19 on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, seriously

Didn’t Chow and Lame hate each other before? What changed? Why would Chow jump ship so quickly? Something is very odd – money? Does he think USC has that much more talent that he can work his magic? What about those sanctions? Did Chow and CRN bump heads? I’m trying to understand this – if it is true.

by zinlinez on Jan 12, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

Also

Lame is a serious egomaniac and prides himself on his offensive scheming prowess … why would he bring in someone with real credentials and a stellar reputation to take credit away from him?

by CMK on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Has to be about Money.

If it’s true.

Why else would he want to join a program about to be slammed with jail time to work for a nepotistic ladder climber who couldn’t polish his shoes.

Makes no sense to me. Hope it’s not true.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Lane says nothing about it

This is still developing

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by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

not that people don't hate SC already

but i think they might actually be trying to be the most hated program of all time

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

And

Chow just said yesterday he was a Bruin through next year.

by sponkey21 on Jan 12, 2010 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

We need to stop panicking

This is a tough thing to decide, it’s a rumor

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone relax

Until it’s official, it’s just a rumor. No need to call Coach Chow any names, don’t give in to the media.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I agree

I was just stating that Chow said not too long ago that he was a Bruin. I don’t think he would change his mind. But still, the new staff is more competent than the old one even without Chow.

by sponkey21 on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This will hurt them in the long run it has to. If chow goes we need mike leach, at spaulding with a contract ready to be sighned tommorow he really wanted to come the first time around.

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

no mike leach

not the type of Offense CRN would like to run.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Leach is throw long offense

We don’t really have the crop for that

by PopnFried on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

No

not gonna happen, no way, no how

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

not to mention that he has an ego

that would butt heads with any head coach

Free Brandon Wood!

by gorams77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Leach's offense is not a throw-long offense at all

It’s a throw offense (Air Raid), which is completely different. Leach’s offensive game is all horizontal. If anything, it’s really not vertical at all.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

HA

go look back on JT’s articles and my articles. Just because you see two screens in a few drives, it isn’t a trend

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by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying Leach is a good fit for OC

He’s not.

Our best recruit this year is Malcolm Jones, and he would be basically useless in a Leache offense.

That said, do keep in mind that Leach served as OC at OU under Stoops, so he certainly can modify his approach to the talent at hand.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

If jones doesn’t end up across town didn’t chow snag him

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's really what worries me most about Chow leaving...

our recruiting class. We can live with a new OC, but this is going to hurt recruiting now if true.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Under contract right?

wouldnt he need ucla permission to speak to another school?

If so – I cant imagine that ucla would allow it to sc

Free Brandon Wood!

by gorams77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

specially

if CRN didn’t even know abuout this.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

totally random speculation as well

but my friends dad is good friends with Orsini (SMU AD), and he seems to think the NCAA is definitely going to come down on SC with possible TV and or postseason bans, I pray to God this is true.

Also, I just saw the Kiffin presser, I love how he gave a short, bogus little blurb about giving his all at Tennessee and leaving the program better than it was 14 months ago, then walks off without answering any questions, what SCUM!

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

hope so

Also hope to chow thing is BS, but the way its being presented, sounds like a done deal.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We have better talent than tech had most years. He is also an good recruiter if anyone has a better suggestion I’d love to hear it

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

it's not

always about talent. It’s about talent that fits your scheme. We’ve been recruiting different style players the last three years.

by King J77 on Jan 12, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Doesn’t need to be Leach, but it does need to be someone that works with recruiting.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Official meeting in a few

USC will talk with Chow in a few minutes. Still up in the air

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

on jon gold's blog

the post about coach neu not hearing about this is now gone. Very mysterious

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson

by AMM19 on Jan 12, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

for anyone questioning the possibility of mike leach

he may come with some questions about his ego but he is a brilliant offensive mind. i would take him over chow and his anemic chane moline wildcat offense. he also has ties to texas and his offense will cause problems in the pac10

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

No

shake yourself

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by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

sadly, If chow left, I'd be almost desparate enough to consider it

as much as I’ve openly criticized Leach, I’m starting to lose it here, how can SC be doing this. But his ego would probably get in the way anyway, so we’ll just have to see how this shakes out.

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Leach is a head coach

I don’t think his personality would fit as an OC based on what I’ve heard about him.

by zinlinez on Jan 12, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

maybe bring cable back?

raiders are about to fire him it seems like

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

It'll be tough...

I love the guy, but with his abuse issues don’t see it as an option.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

We the recievers and a crop of qb s Franklin James and rhigpen would be very effective out of this scheme

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

for anyone remotely considering the possibility of Mike Leach

it doesn’t matter what you think of his offense or recruiting, he wasn’t interested in the money UCLA could offer to their head coach, highly unlikely he would want to be an assistant.

And we wouldn’t want him. At most he would stay one year, which would be of no value; and we don’t want the controversy either.

by britishbruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

he is still getting paid by TT so money may not be an issue

and i dont know that he would exactly leave after a year, he probably feels like he was disrespected nationally for the adam james incident and he may want to stick it to everyone and join and up and coming program. the only problem potentially is that he and rick may have differing offensive theories

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Chow leaving would be a loss

NC has done quite well by the Bruins and seems to be a good fit. I hope it is just a bad rumor but a statement he made about a week or so ago worried me -. when asked about 2010 he said ask me next week

by john4justice on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

damn it Norm. I was just saying that TN will learn not to hire any trOJans. Guess we should follow that too. Eesh.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Jan 12, 2010 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

Stop it

Until it’s official.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 7:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I just don't get it

Does anybody have one concrete reason why he would do this? Join somebody he formerly hated? Among the rest of the things… One reason?

by zinlinez on Jan 12, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Chow

Wouldn’t you hate Carrol?

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely

I think Norm hated petey and maybe he likes lame. I don’t know WHY but whatever!

Did anyone see his press conference? He didn’t even sit down, spent about one minute saying generic things and walked away when reporters tried to ask questions. What a trOJan.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN hasn't posted anything

Still a rumor

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

Nothing that can't be

Deleted, ESPN hasn’t even made it a little sidebar item

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

bottom line is

USC made a big splash today that gave them a lot of momentum. if they do steal chow from us, we need to make an equally big splash or our recruiting momentum will be halted

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

If it's not true

I suspect the more likely reason is so they poach more recruits from us with a rumor like this. I still hope it’s a rumor…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

maybe SC sanctions aren't so bad

i can’t believe any coach who is happy would go to a program on the brink of severe penalties. i can believe kiffin wasn’t feeling secure but chow??? otherwise, maybe chow and CRN have been at odds more often than not.

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by bruinsince69 on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

Gary klien on espn news makes no mention of chow

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

he said chows name but refered back to when he was at sc

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson

by AMM19 on Jan 12, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Cmon nc

Tell them to go fuck themselves an bring in a great class with the bruins

by bruin578 on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

It's very odd...

but if you’re listening to USC, when talking to any other reporters, they’re still not mentioning Norm Chow. Shelley Smith reported it and that’s been it. It was just a weird way to announce it. I have to say, I’m a little confused.

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

Scott Wolf has it

that Chow is gone . . . hmmm . . . what to believe

by TheStick on Jan 12, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

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