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UCLA Calls ESPN's Chow/U$C Report Inaccurate, Daily News Now Backtracks Saying Chow Is Staying

Again let's make this fresh after Shelly Smith's irresponsible, wreckless, pathetic, pro-Trojan rumor mongering this evening. She has proven to be beyond pathetic the way she tried advancing the story about Chow going to Southern Cal. Here again is the email from UCLA:

The ESPN report that Norm Chow has accepted a position at another university is not accurate, said UCLA spokesperson Marc Dellins.

Shelly Smith has a lot of explaining to do. Her report was inaccurate, extremely premature and nothing but irresponsible rumor mongering on behalf of Southern Cal. She should be ashamed and should get fired from her job.

Apparently Robert Kuwada on Bruin Report Online's premium board is reporting that Chow will stay. And now Jon Gold is jumping on Chow is staying bandwagon:

After hearing from multiple sources that Norm Chow was negotiating with USC, I am now hearing that he is going to stay at UCLA. I'm getting this from people very, very close to the UCLA situation.
I have not heard from anyone at UCLA about the matter on the record, and you'll be the first to know when I do.

Gold should apologize to his readers when he set the panic button by writing the headline Chow is "gone." Pathetic reporting on his part earlier tonight. We have to wait a little to see how it develops.

GO BRUINS.

UPDATE (N): Now Gold is apologizing for his schizo posting. His latest line is that Chow "has not accepted anything, and reports he had were premature." In other words, it's an unclear picture right now. As mentioned in previous updates UCLA will have a say in this because they are the other party to Chow's K through next season. Either way it looks like earlier reports were nothing but a smokescreen to stunt UCLA's recruiting efforts by Trojan shills. GO BRUINS.

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I also was gonna reply to you.

I don’t think anyone has ever accused me of being at Tennessee fan, I will forgive you though. ;)

I do agree that in the long run UT will be better of without Kiffikins.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jan 12, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

if the chow thing was a ploy by kiffin

doesnt this ultimately end up favoring us? i mean they start to be exposed for who they are and their tactics, while acknowledging at the same time that our momentum is white hot. also, shows chow not wanting to leave sends the message that we are not only closing the gap, but inevitably overtaking that program

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

Dang it Nestor!

This is twice tonight you’ve closed a thread right when I was in the middle of a post!

by KSBruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

Heh, I was gonna reply to you too.

I will drop by from time to time. Your stadium alone is enough to make me partial to UCLA. Not to mention the welcome I received when coming here for info on the LA/Pasadena area. UCLA has officially become my Pac10 school.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jan 12, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

You can call Shelley Smith a irresponsible, wreckless, pathetic, pro-Trojan rumor mongorer, but just don’t put a post about how (un)attractive she is.

by Karl II on Jan 12, 2010 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

For some reason I have the strongest urge to go paint tommy trojan orange.

by JulianD on Jan 12, 2010 9:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I believe Home Depot

keeps team colors on stock, and/or mixes them on the spot.

Lets not forget it is Orange AND White.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hearing from really good sources

that the deal was to trade CNC to $C for the contracts of three starters, one more to be named later, and cash considerations. Fox 71, back me up on this!

by KSBruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

You left out a draft choice.

We were going to hold out for the entire offensive line, but they’re all staying after Senora Ross’s class to clean erasers, thus getting them on the Dean’s List.

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Franchise tag

I hear Petey franchise tagged Matty before he left. Read that as you will…

by bruinponcho on Jan 12, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

zing!

When’s the wedding?

by impaulv on Jan 12, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Two years

Seattle will be the worst team in the NFL with Carrol coaching a talentless roster. Is there any doubt that he wouldn’t take Barkley? Even if he was marginally successful, Carrol would trade his whole starting lineup just to be able to be reunited with his one and only.

by bruinponcho on Jan 12, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope your right Nestor. What happened did sc go after him or not?

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

Only the reporters who started spreading the rumors know for sure.

Orson Welles did this one Halloween Night and caused just about this much uproar.

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, has anyone seen the clip from the new Chipmunks movie where they sing "You Spin Me Round"?

That’s been the world of college football the past 96 hours.

Yeeesh.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jan 12, 2010 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

M I will probably go to sleep soon (hoping by 1:30 am EST)

So you guys will have to drive the thread after that. :-)

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Shoot, I was going to do the same -- have to work at 5am tomorrow.

Will see what I can do.

P — You around???

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jan 12, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be around

Insomnia does have its benefits, after all.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jan 12, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

we're takin over

w/ real headlines between the lines… not this B. S.

by AllIHadz240s on Jan 12, 2010 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

looking at the big picture though

we can expect all the lapdogs to spin this as a massive program saving hire, and that it will be business as usual at SUC. We need more pad PR for these scum bags, please NCAA, do the right thing in February

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 9:22 PM PST reply actions  

It strikes me as odd that at this time...

…they would hire a coach that the NCAA was looking into. Maybe karma will catch up with them.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jan 12, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Without Chow, they still made a decent package hire.

A great recruiter and a great DC.

Poor head coach but I think the reason they really wanted Chow was that with him at OC, and Monte at DC, Lane couldn’t screw things up.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

haha ya, and that would be quite a staff

luckily things looked to have calmed down on the Chow front, but still, barring sanctions in february, SC has already put itself back in a pretty good spot, and even if they dont take Chow, they’ll get someone pretty good

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Same logic that drove a certain political campaign nearly 10 years ago

Hopefully they would have ‘governed’ SC just as well

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jan 12, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

sjh, I disagree with you about Kiffin pere being "great"

His numbers say he was OK, but not great. He’s defense was ranked 28th in the country in points per game. just$c’s was 24th. Ours was 33rd. The spread in points – just$c 20.4, Tennessee 21.0, us 21.3. That spread is 7 tenths of a point – not a lot.

I’m not worried about Monte’s defense. I saw plenty of it when he coached for the Bucs, and it was excruciatingly ordinary. It was a bend and only break at the worst possible time defense. He has a great reputation, but it sure doesn’t seem to be backed up by numbers.

It sort of reminds me of Mark Twain’s comment about Richard Wagner’s music: “Wagner’s music is actually much better than it sounds.”

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone's going to end up looking like fools

If we all keep engaging in the speculation that have made Gold and Smith look like idiots today.

None of us know a lick about it. In the days (heck probably even just day) to come, we’ll discover whether Chow goes to USC, USC never really was after him and merely planted the story, or whether USC went for and failed to get Chow.

Right now, this is a story about sports media. I understand most major newspapers have strict policies on when and how to use anonymous sourcing. Any reason the sports pages seem to be exempt from these?

by youplaytowinthegame on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 PM PST reply actions  

I don't understand the anger in TN

Oh I get it, they were betrayed.

But, wasn’t it clear to them that Kiffen was going to drag down their entire program?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 PM PST reply actions  

True, but...

….in the heat of the moment, we all have been guilty of chasing after failed relationships that we know weren’t good for us.

Tennessee will be a much better program without Kiffin, its just going to suck for them for a week while they look for a replacement. Jim Mora anyone?

by bruinponcho on Jan 12, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Leach

But, I want to reserve the right to call on him if CNC does go.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Gold posts Chow is staying at UCLA

then another post that he has not accepted a position elsewhere. That’s a little conflicting. So it’s not definite either way. Sounds like negotiation is still going on between Chow and SUC. What do you guys read into this?

by EdO'B3017 on Jan 12, 2010 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

Gold now reporting that UCLA may change its colors to Gold and BLUE.

But not yet confirmed.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jan 12, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Gold has a new clarifying post

* As of 9:13 pacific time, Norm Chow is the offensive coordinator for UCLA.

* USC is throwing piles of money at him to come join Kiffin’s crew.

* He has not accepted anything, and reports he had were premature.

* My choice of words for the headline earlier was incorrect. For that I apologize. In this 24-hour news cycle, when I hear the same thing from multiple sources, and none from others, I try to keep up with it.

by youplaytowinthegame on Jan 12, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

In one post, Gold has shown more accountability than PC has in a decade.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jan 12, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree

Gold has just earned brownie points in my book. It takes courage for a reporter to admit in a timely fashion when he or she is wrong.

Maybe Shelly can do the same. I doubt it.

by longbordr52 on Jan 12, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

+1 to Gold

I give him a little bit of a break. He’s what – only like 26? And it’s his first ‘real’ beat. At least the Daily News has a ‘real’ UCLA beat. And anyone who’s contrite like that deserves some serious props. I’ll never get the 24-hour news cycle freak-out though, but it sure is fun to ride the rollercoaster! Woo!

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What I read into it is that Gold has no freakin' idea what's going on

and is just writing stuff that will cover him no matter which way things go.

Let’s suppose there are discussions between Chow and Guerrero. You suppose Coach Chow says, “Say, Dan, would you hold on just a minute. I have to call Jon Gold and give him an update on things.”

The concept that Gold would have any actual knowledge of what’s going on is totally absurd. It is inconceivable that he has any more idea what’s going on than I do here in Tampa. Guys, get a grip. Think about the reality of the situation.

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But he said he has an update and stuff

What more do you need?!?!?!?!

Its not Golds fault necessarily, nobody but CNC really knows whats going on.

Great convo though Fox. Too funny.

by bruinponcho on Jan 12, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the penalty should be to make the Academic Admission standardsat $c the same as UCLA’s even for sports. THE ULTIMATE DEATH PENALTY!

by JulianD on Jan 12, 2010 9:26 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

breaking news

Conan O’Brien to leave the tonight show to become OC of suc

by bruin578 on Jan 12, 2010 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

damnit

but did they use twitter tracker twitter tracker twitter tracker to say

Coco is a no go

by bruin578 on Jan 12, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol!

LA media is alot tougher than Tenn media.

by EdO'B3017 on Jan 12, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the line Mariotti wrote

“Why would USC hire a tainted coach to run a tainted program?”

Answer: To keep the tradition going. FIGHT ON!

by EdO'B3017 on Jan 12, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Where’s Neuheisel in all of this?

I’m waiting for some sort of statement

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

He's waiting for the dust to clear

and hopefully working to keep CNC here.

by KSBruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

By no means was i mad

Just wanted to get that out there

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what you mean.

the recent update from the Daily News is reassuring, but I won’t be at ease until I hear Norm Chow himself state he is not interested in returning to South Central to work for Lame Kitten.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jan 12, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He's probably working the back channels, closing the deals with NC and the recruits.

He’ll go public when it’s all sewn up.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jan 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

At This Point

It’s certainly out of his hands. If NC is holding out for NFL money and $C is willing to pay it, we aren’t going to compete with that.

by snorkeldorf on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

So is anything sure here chow staying going deciding? Quit botching about staying up late I’m on the east coast

by Marine bruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

The "hand cuffs" comment

Much has been made about CRN’s comment — that it created great resentment in CNC.

I see it differently. I see it like “the buck stops here”. I see it as CRN protecting CNC by saying, hey if he is too conservative blame me.

There has been way too much rumor mongering about CRN and CNC not getting along. I’ve not believed much of it.

CNC has flourished here, has been more outgoing and endearing, and has started to set aside the stuff we once heard that he had no personality. I think all of this was the product of a good fit in the job and a good relationship with CRN.

Norm Chow has worked his butt off for us — in every phase, not the least of which was recruiting.

And, he’s done it with integrity.

Hard for me to believe he’d leave to go to a dirty program.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Thats why I was so shocked, Chow lately has been going out of his way with recruiting. Tough to swallow his leaving. At least hopefully that BS ends tonight. Still pissed at the Mickey Mouse sports network.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone just needs to wait

Obviously somebody somewhere said something that Shelly foolishly jumped on (for her own allegiance reasons). Is it complete fabrication with no hint of possibility? Maybe. Should she, Gold, or anyone for that matter have used speculation as fact so quickly? No.

But at the same time, I don’t think we can take Dellins’ comment to mean that Chow is completely uninterested in SC. I personally speculate that Chow is hearing from both sides and is working things out. I pray that he stays, but USC will likely throw NFL-type money at him. They have the funds to do it. Again, that is my speculation.

UCLA is undoubtedly probably speaking to Chow as well. This will work itself out, but there is NO WAY anybody (us, those shmucks across town or at espn) can definitively say he is switching sides. Maybe he goes, maybe he doesn’t. It’s giving everyone here a heart attack trying to figure it out, probably before CNC knows himself.

by longbordr52 on Jan 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

Wolf post at 9:29

“We hear that Norm Chow is interested in returning to USC but a deal is not yet finalized. Chow is currently in Florida.”

by EdO'B3017 on Jan 12, 2010 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

WTF

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It's Wolf

He was pining for Peterson, Riley, Del Rio … and now settling for Lame.

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Florida?

Let’s start a new rumor … Norm Chow to Florida as Interim Head Coach for the Gators!

by snorkeldorf on Jan 12, 2010 9:35 PM PST reply actions  

Wrong

He’s sitting here with me and we’re laughing at all this. Right, Norm? Sorry, Norm fell asleep. He was getting bored with all this crap.

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

and sorry

if this has been mentioned, but did anyone mention/does anyone know how Norm’s contract is structured, does UCLA have a say in where he goes, and what the buyout is?

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

Contracts are merely paper

Leach and Peter and Lane didn’t care, so it’s all up to a decision now.

I’m assuming his buyout is 800k, but that was the last thing I heard

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

contracts are just paper

but if you break them, you’ll have a lawsuit on your hands.

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s SC

Do you think they’ll have any problems with jury?

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm talking about Norm and UCLA

If the contract stated that Norm couldnt accept a job with without UCLA’s permission, he would breaking his contract with them

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m kidding

I know what would happen. It was just a poor reference to Juice

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

haha ah sorry ya i missed the sarcasm

its been a very weird and emotional night

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

We live in the best of times

This is great. Carroll leaves sc as the NCAA moves in for the vivasection. Kirkland is chased out of Tennessee by an angry mob who writes unnecessarily crude graffiti . Meanwhile, the NCAA is taking a look at Tennessee’s apparent movement of under age women across state lines for unspecified purposes. All this happens while an ESPN reporter makes something up. We could not have written a goofier story line in our most creative moments.

Go Bruins.

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 9:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

That was a fluke

They only had 2 chances to score from inside our 5, cmon that’s not enough slack!

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I love this line:

“He knows the periodic table of the elements better than the NCAA rule manual.” Which means nothing to just$c, of course, but it’s a funny line.

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

gotta admit

As A Trojan snooping around here (been a longtime BN reader for news, I’ll mind my manners in your house and not troll), I cringed at the hire. I was a bit happier to see Monte and Orgeron are coming, so at least the staff will be rockin, but Kiffin’s always had more bark than bite.

The real question is the one that’s been on all of our minds for days: What does the turnover on the coaching staff say about the NCAA investigations?

I was afraid BN’s take was right for days, that it signals much doom for SC football. But Kiffin and his staff are walking away from what looks like a rapidly improving situation at UT, and if Chow is seriously considering SC (and not just posturing for more cash, or isn’t even remotely interested despite present reports), he’s doing the same. This would suggest insiders don’t fear the No Cajones At All and its sanctions, especially from USC’s end: taking a coach in hot water for violations under these circumstances would make no sense unless USC thinks they’re not getting the hammer brought down.

Of course, it could also be that Kiffin and Garrett are idiots. That would be entirely consistent with how Kiffin acted since he got the job at UT, and how Garrett ran this coaching search.

More than anything, I think it just raises the stakes for the sanctions meeting.

by youplaytowinthegame on Jan 12, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Either of your takes seem quite possible

I doubt a single person here would be surprised to see the NCAA take the Sgt Schultz approach to rules violations (even those BN’ers too young/not attuned to 60’s TV shows to get that reference).

And, we are talking about Lane Kiffin and Mike Garrett. Enough said.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jan 12, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I know nothing

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Or another option could be

Kiffin wanted to skip town again before getting exposed by SEC. If the hammer does fall on USC, he will be performing under lower expectations. Karma is going to come to bite Kiffin and O at the end, especially if reports about O illegally contacting recruits on behalf of SC is true.

Appreciate the respectful comment.

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you were going to bed

This is like watching a close national election and waiting for accurate counts.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this

Kiffin tried to pull some USC stunts in the SEC and was repeatedly exposed for it. He ended up having a mediocre season and had to think that he was in over his head in Knoxville.

by ishXdavid on Jan 12, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

it will be interesting to see

I’m hoping for sanctions, but the NCAA pulling a Sgt Shultz will not surprise me either. YahVol!!!

by hongerelli on Jan 12, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Pat Forde on Kiffin

Paris Hilton has paid more dues than Lane Kiffin.
Shockingly, Forde does not seem to be much of a Lame Kitten fan.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jan 12, 2010 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

It’s the same as Tennessee

He has a hot wife… thats about it. Money Monty will only go so far

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite quote
His signature win was a loss — a two-point defeat at eventual national champion Alabama. Other than that, the best thing the Volunteers did in 2009 was thumping the worst Georgia team in a decade.

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

actually

a pretty decent article

by bruin1999 on Jan 12, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Should O'neill watch his job

I thought the hiring of O’neill was to signal a commitment to doing things the right way. If Garret is going to hire Kiffin, why not just go after Kelvin Sampson and go out in a blaze of NCAA violation glory.

by bruinponcho on Jan 12, 2010 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

He's said he won't be enrolling at Tennessee

and has heard from both UCLA and UNC coaching staffs. He’ll be looking around.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 12, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Good chance that Willis winds up at UCLA now, IMO

Our recruiting pitch is simple: “You know that coach who almost totally screwed you? Yeah, you get to play against him every year here. And live in the same city.”

by CAJason80 on Jan 12, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

in a nicer part of the city

Unless Lane Kiffin moves in with Pete’s female grad-student roommate in Malibu…

by longbordr52 on Jan 12, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Chow negotiating with SUC

for a lateral job move is very distasteful.

Sorry, but there is no other way to spin it than his character is flawed. That’s not how you treat people who have treated you well.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

Does even one person in the Bruins Nation have any first hand knowledge that Coach Chow has talked directly or indirectly to anyone acting on behalf of just$c?

Has anyone ever heard even one word said by Coach Chow or anyone acting on his behalf that he is considering leaving UCLA?

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Geezer minds think alike.

Even when it is way past our bedtimes. Have to get up early to walk laps in the mall.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you know he is doing it?

UCLA sources say he isn’t.

Doesn’t sc have to notify us that they want to talk with him?

I’ll make my judgments when the smoke clears.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya

I’m sure Oregon was calling for Bellotti’s head when he came to listen to us. It’s most likely some sort of polite gesture

Formerly ucla13_usc9

by 03rdn9 on Jan 12, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Updated rock graffiti

NWS NWS NWS
http://ow.ly/VRSd
NWS NWS NWS

Don’t open if you’re at work.

by JWongUCLA on Jan 12, 2010 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

Scenes from the Tennessee riot

http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2010/1/13/1248744/scenes-from-the-university-of

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 12, 2010 9:52 PM PST reply actions  

I don't entirely understand this

Lame was a mediocre coach and a horrible person. He was looking to set a new indoor record for ncaa violations. He was as out of place at classy Knoxville as any trOJan would be at a place where honor and integrity mean something.

So is his departure causing a riot in celebration? It should. They should do everything they can to help him get out of town. Sure, he’s trying to take his recruits, but really, if a recruit wanted to be with Lame, he really isn’t the type of character guy that we would want at UCLA, and undoubtedly the kind of guy that Vols wouldn’t want either. Lame’s star recruit pleaded guilty to attempted robbery or something like that. Lame’s response? Well, we’ve only had three guys arrested. Granted, that’s less than what he was used to looking at the trOJans, but why should the Vols be upset that this classic douchebag is leaving?

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of it

I haven’t been in Tennessee since August when I had lunch at the Cracker Barrel in Clarksville. (As they say in Tennessee, “You can’t swing a dead cat around in the South without hitting a Cracker Barrel.”). So I don’t know whole story. But this dude was just plain disloyal. One and done. Disloyalty is sign of moral weakness and some of Tennessee students don’t care for disloyalty. We could not be luckier. That doesn’t answer your question but it gave me the opportunity to run my mouth.

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 10:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

UT students chased Lamey down

Best grafs

“Whatever Kiffin gets from here on out, he deserves. Do not forget, he was 5-15 with the Raiders and 7-6 with Tennessee.

That tells me two things. He doesn’t stick around long and he’s not very successful.

Oh yeah, and he gets nervous when fans riot. Might want to get used to that, Lane"

by stevenucla on Jan 12, 2010 9:59 PM PST reply actions  

I'm out of here, too.

Whatever we wake up to, we’ll deal with it.

I truly hope CNC stays. I really like him.

But, if not, we will deal with it.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions  

We need a statement from CRN

We need a statement. As soon as he knows, we need a statement. Let’s come out swinging Bruins.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

WOOOOW

A lot of hostility. I love it!

We better fill every single seat in the Rose Bowl next year against the toejams. But in case there’s a few left, let’s invite some Vols fans. I think they’ll have a few words for SUC’s head coach too.

by longbordr52 on Jan 12, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder he left

Yes my friends, Tennessee does have an inbreeding issue.

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It's time...

for Lane never to go to Tennessee on a recruiting trip.

by Chicago Bruin on Jan 13, 2010 12:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone should pull out an overhead projector

to air out their Lane Kiffin grievances. Come on! The chance for comedy gold!

by freesia39 on Jan 12, 2010 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

Question:

Is Kiffin the worst kind of @$$hole (one with a trojan deep inside) or is he a d!ck who can’t help but wrap himself in all things trojan?

by Westwood is the best wood on Jan 12, 2010 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

He learned from the king

The court jester now has been given the keys to the castle.

by UCLA4Life on Jan 12, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Front page of FOX Sports on MSN

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 12, 2010 11:17 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

thats an epic photoshop job

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jan 12, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

For when the article is no longer front page in a few days

Link is here.

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 12, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just noticing the resemblance

Uncanny to say the least.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the NCAA fix in?

Everyone here knows that suc deserves the death penalty even if you only look at half of what suc has been caught doing.

Is Kiffen stupid enough to walk in to that?

I can’t blame anyone for investigating career options but suc seems like career suicide now unless the NCAA said all is forgiven if you dump cheaty peety.

One thing is certain, cheaty peety covered his ass. If suc gets the death penalty or just has to play by the rules, cheaty looks good because suc will lose games after he’s gone. If the seahawks continue to suck, they are the seahawks which is a built in excuse. When he fails in pro-ball again his new story will be “I guess I was always a college coach” and he might even go back to suc because they will probably be in trouble by then.

by layout on Jan 12, 2010 11:20 PM PST reply actions  

We are blessed

If you like Carroll (and did we like’m here at BN), then you’ll love whatever his name is.

But here’s the deal, the team must keep its eye on the prize—December 4, 2010 in the Rose Bowl.

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 11:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Got that right

I don’t care what happens, we come out swinging! Tomorrow, CNC will be with us or somewhere else. I appreciate his time here at UCLA. But I need something from CRN tomorrow if things don’t go our way; I need him to make a declaration of war against the enemy. It’s good versus evil time now.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

GUYS, I FIGURED IT OUT.

Using the story of the Trojan War as an analogy, this part, where Peat goes off triumphantly to Seattle to be an illustrious NFL coach, Troy gets its dynamic coaching trio, and all seems to be turning around for the Trojans, is the part where they’re reveling in the fact that the Greeks have admitted defeat and are dragging their horse trophy into the city.

Then,inevitably, history happens…

Carroll flops miserably in Seattle. The trojan basketball team (yeah, they do exist) are slapped with a three year probation and no post-season play. And their football team is given the death penalty… AFTER the trojans sign an extremely lucrative contract with Lame Kitten. And OJ finally admits that he did it.

…i can muse, right…? after all, it is just fiction… or is it?

by bruinbunz on Jan 12, 2010 11:59 PM PST reply actions  

Well

Hiring Lame is either a big F-You to the NCAA or the trOJans do not fear them at all. I’m thinking that an organization, however irrelevant, at least has to fight back sometime. So, starting with that principle, I think that they are going to get slapped down pretty hard. If they wanted to make good with the NCAA, they would not have hired lame but rather someone who was more scrupulous, shall we say?

So that leaves two outcomes: Either they aren’t getting punished and the NCAA is a complete clown organization or they are getter slammed and can’t get any lower even if they hire Lame. I pick the latter because the NCAA has to do something about $uc* or they have no credibility whatsoever. I mean, look at the media response to all this. I think they hired Lame knowing that they are getting slammed and want to make the best with the recruits they have. That’s all there is to it.

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 13, 2010 12:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Has Anyone in CFB ever heard of .....

a Non-Compete Clause? Do those even exist, at any level, in CFB or are they such a huge liability that not a single coach or assistant would ever sign a contract with a handcuff?

by dkbilson on Jan 13, 2010 4:32 AM PST reply actions  

In another thread someone mentioned

That non-compete clause are not typically enforceable in California.

Perhaps if this move happens we might start seeing an era of team-dependent buyout clauses, however?

I could imagine a school offering a contract with higher and lower buyouts depending on whether the coach is moving up a position (OC —> HC) or not, and whether or not he’s going to the NFL, any random D-1 school, a conference school, or (trigger the big money) a rival.

Of course, assuming that’s ok with the legal beagles, but there isn’t anything that jumps out to an amateur as wrong with that.

by youplaytowinthegame on Jan 13, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

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