[Updated] Ed Orgeron - NCAA cheat? Unclear. Lying $Cum? You bet!

That has to be a mandatory job requirement. If you’re not willing to lie, there’s no place for you on the just$c* campus. Imagine what would happen if anyone on the coaching staff told the truth about what went on. That would be self-reporting, and that doesn’t happen.

We have Menelaus’ list (which I hope he updates again soon) of all the cheating and thuggery. I wonder if we need a new list of the lying and cheating the Lame brings, or if all this should just be added to the old list? I think a new list. There needs to be a compendium of all the stupid things he says, like “only one arrest in 14 months.” Anyway, that’s something for the moderators to mull over.

(sorry no link) that UT players also received a text message from Orgeron, which obviously can be retrieved by anyone wanting to look into this.

The potential illegal move was contacting the 8 early enrollees and telling them not to go to class the next day.

There is still some ambiguity as to whether the 8 kids were officially “enrolled” in school. They had not attended the first day of classes, which was yesterday, but they had accepted their scholarships and had moved into dorms on campus.

The NCAA has stated they will look into it if UT asks them to. There is also some clause in the NCAA rule book whereby the NCAA can block USC from recruiting any kid who gave a verbal commitment to UT due to the possibility of future violations stemming from the contact I mentioned above.

UT was fine for 215 years before Kiffin and will be fine after. The comment that has gotten the hackles up on many UT fans (myself included) was that Kiffin has “left the university in better shape than it was 14 months ago”.

Really? A 7-6 record this year culminating with a blowout by VaTech? A potential top-5 recruiting class torn asunder and disintegrating more with each passing day? The potential sanctions faced by UT due to Kiffin’s lack of knowledge/disregard of NCAA rules?

In closing, I really enjoyed getting to meet quite a few UCLA fans at the game this past fall. They represented UCLA so well. I hope you can keep Chow and put a beat down on the boy coach in 2010.

It seems this incident is so well documented and can be verified SO easily that this HAS to be what eventually pushes the NCAA over the brink and results in the death penalty.

I mean seriously, the coaches are not yet out of their current jobs/locations, have not even moved into their offices at South Central, and they are already committing violations?

Poetic Justice in . . . . 5 . . . . 4 . . . . 3 . . . . 2 . . . . 1 . . . .

Which is why he’s has and will thrive at $outhern cal

I was watching Sportscenter this morning and their lead story was the debate whether Ed Ogre had committed a violation or not. ESPN’s blowhards typically minimized what Ogre had done as typical recruiting silly season stuff.

HOWEVER

Luginbill did state something I found quite interesting. He stated that the moment a recruit steps on campus, whether or not he has begun attending classes, he is a member of that institution, and therefore un-approachable. NOW, taking into account what has been stated on various message boards, that one of the recruits he called happened to be in the same room with everybody else during Tame Kitten’s good bye meeting it sounds an awful like a clear cut violation of NCAA bylaws.

I’ve been thinking about what has been said about the orgeroning that went on with Tennessee recruits. I’ve seen the report of what Lame said, and I’ve seen the reports as to what Eddie said (or at least what he says he said.) I’ve seen some posts by Tennessee recruits that refutes what Eddie said he said about the whole orgeroning affair.

One of our presidents, I think it was Reagan, said “Trust but verify.” I sure believe what Lame and what Eddie are saying? Why wouldn’t anyone believe what they say. Seriously. They could give a rat’s rear end about violating a couple of silly rules, anyway.

But to be clear, I think it’s fair to ask Eddie to produce the phone records for his cell, or from whatever phone it was that made and received the calls. Eddie said he got a bunch of calls, not just that he made some. Anyway, when we get the calls, we can identify the kids who made or received the calls. Then we can just ask them what Eddie said when he called, or what they asked him when they called.

That seems reasonable, doesn’t it? Maybe Eddie was telling the God’s honest truth. If that’s so, then he has nothing to fear from producing his phone records. He may remember the calls he made, but to be sure, we should get the actual records so there is no ambiguity or mistakes.

According to Rocky Top Talk: “Again, according to GVX [which I think is Go Vols Express], Jeff Bray said his son, Tyler Bray, was in a room Tuesday when Orgeron offered USC scholarships to a group of players enrolled at Tennessee via speaker phone. Apparently, a bunch of the players responded to Orgeron with anger. Good for them.”

I’m not saying what Eddie said or didn’t say, because I wasn’t there. I absolutely trust Eddie, because he’s a big time coach at big time school and plays strictly by the rules. But common sense says verify. Actually, so does Journalism 101. So how about a fishwrap reporter using his or her new-found journalistic integrity and following up with Eddie. Produce those records, Eddie. We’ll take it from there. And since you’ve said you didn’t violate any rules, you have nothing to worry about. And even if you did, you have nothing to worry about, because now you’re back at just$c*, where they own the police.