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Ted Miller speaks of Pac 10 expansion.

I think we have discussed this here before; I left the following comment on his column:

Along the lines of expansion: bring in BYU and Utah. They are the two schools with the most consistently competitive teams and educational standards. Sorry, Fresno.

divisions to be split by “big” and “state” schools:

Big School division:
Oregon, Washington, Stanford, BYU, USC, Arizona

State School division:
OSU, WSU, Cal, Utah, UCLA, ASU

This would create some interesting inter division rivalries and allow the possibility of traditional rivals to play in the championship game.

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by MexiBruin on Jan 22, 2010 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

I agree

BYU and Utah make the most sense. They are both good academic and well rounded athletic institutions. Additionally, they follow the trend of rivalry pairs (two AZ, two OR, two WA, two so-cal, two nor-cal, and then two UT schools) and are far enough west to make sense.

by sponkey21 on Jan 22, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Adding BYU / Utah would make for an interesting split

I’m not sure how you’d effectively split the conference with BYU and Utah added.

North: UW, WSU, Oregon, OSU, Utah, Cal
South: Stanford, USC, UCLA, ASU, UA, BYU

Splitting up Stanford and Cal across divisions would be kinda’ counter-productive, but not sure what else you could do. Still play 9 conference games, with the divisions playing a full-round robin and then a random slate of 3 games from the south division, with allowances made for traditional rivalries (ie, Utah and BYU always play each other, same for Stanford/Cal, etc.)

I’ve always thought adding BYU and Utah was the best bet for expansion. Both are competitive in football (and BYU has a great football history), and both are about on-par with the Arizona schools academically.

by CAJason80 on Jan 22, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

And another correction...

because I wasn’t a math major, that would be a full round-robin and a random slate of 4 teams from the other division.

by CAJason80 on Jan 22, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

How about something closer to the Pacific?

Both Boise State and Idaho State are viable options. UNLV and UNR are both rivals, and there’s also the option of Hawaii and Fresno State. These schools have had recent successful seasons, but didn’t earn that much respect from voters because they weren’t in a good conference.

by wingsabre on Jan 22, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Further fuel.

My idea is that the Pac 10 not be divided by an arbitrary North/South or East/West but along rivalry lines. For example, Stanford and Berkeley occupy the same geographic region, but would sit in opposite divisions.

As for the name, “big” and “state” schools, I couldn’t think of a name that would properly describe the classification, so I went with big and state.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

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