Center Court: UCLA Basketball (v. Washington State) Open Thread
by Nestor on Jan 23, 2010 12:30 PM PST
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Well if anything else I guess there is no shortage of drama when it comes to UCLA basketball even if our team is going through depressing and dread full season. Saturdays haven't been kind to Howland's Bruins this season. We haven't won a single game on Saturday this season. We are also 0-2 on Sundays (someone should probably double check that because I am recalling Long Beach State and Kansas games off the top off my head). Even during Howland's best years we have sometime had issues on weekends (relative to his stellar record on other days). LVBruin has some very interesting numbers on "Howland's Saturday Slump".
I have no idea whether the 8-10 (3-3) Bruins will break that pattern today against a decent 14-5 (4-3) Washington State Cougars team which historically (at least until last season) hasn't been very decent (2-51) in Pauley. Those guys are coming off a huge win against Southern Cal and will no doubt are chomping at the bit to get out of LA with a huge speed. As for the Bruins, not sure how much we are going to have in our tank to replicate the magic from Saturday night. We have fell flat on our faces on previous Saturdays following big Pac-10 wins. Guess we will find out when the game tips off at 1 pm PST (FSN and Prime Ticket).
Don MacLean will be doing the color commentary today which should be fun (he will help ease the nonsense that will surely come out of Barry Tompkin's mouth). You can read up on all of our musings leading up to this game here. If you want to follow the game online you can do so via our official site. As always, we will be here in the game threads with our rapid fire takes and commentary. So let's get this party started. Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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pauley
Few students in the upper seats. Whole sections empty
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 23, 2010 1:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I could count the number of students in the upper deck
There are that few.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 23, 2010 1:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry 'Bout That
I’ve been traveling a LOT…my Dad is ill. Hard to bake. This is the first game I’ve been able to sit and watch, actually.
I digress..yes. Red velvet cupcakes.
Love My Bruins
Fair enough but it wasn't just "jacking up a 3"
Drago was wide open in the corner…he SHOULD be taking those shots
by UCLABruins4Ever on Jan 23, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
yup
actually helps create easier shots inside if you show you are willing to take the open 3 when the defense doesn’t close out
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
not at his shootng percentage
if Bobo were wide open in the corner I wouldn’t want him taking one either.
sjh
what do you think we should do when we have free throws?
based on our percentage, I presume we should hit it off the backboard and look for a higher % shot :-)
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Shockingly 66
I am going to defend Rago on this one. I think it’s ok if he takes an open shot within the flow of the game. At that point I was OK with that shot. But you are right about him not being a good shooter.
great dunk by ND after the whistle!
Can you say ‘exciting’?
Zone/Nelson?
I’m liking their aggressiveness in the zone so far. Anyone know why Reeves didn’t start?
by Lets go Bruins clap clap clap clap clap on Jan 23, 2010 1:14 PM PST reply actions
from Howland's comments
it seems that they want Keefe in for defense to start the game
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
anyone got a link?
not getting the game out here and my slingbox isn’t working
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
CRN here with recruits
Harrick too
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 23, 2010 1:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Try
atdhe.net or channelsurfing.net they usually stream all the games
by Lets go Bruins clap clap clap clap clap on Jan 23, 2010 1:16 PM PST reply actions
yeah nothing on channelsurfing
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
South checking in
We’re getting the feed now.
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
Finally on
the past few minutes of TV coverage has been exercpts of CBH’s presser post-UW, and a tornado warning 45 miles away
formerly bruinhoo
Why didn't Reeves start?
Was it because of matchups or disciplinary reasons? Or do we not know yet?
by Lets go Bruins clap clap clap clap clap on Jan 23, 2010 1:19 PM PST reply actions
didn't start last game either
apparently to get off to a good defensive start.
RN got burned twice to start the $C game…
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
a good point made by someone else on another thread
is that Keefe also works hard in the offense to get other people free, in the style of LMR in years gone by.
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wow...
ND is playing decent defense. Keep it up!
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
Eaxctly
I don’t know what it is… Nelson seems to have trouble jumping if he gets too close to the basket, Lee never wants to jump up (instead he always goes back down to the ground and then gets blocked by taller guys), Honeycutt doesn’t want to take shots… our finishes on fast breaks have been few and far between this season.
cbn itching to take a timeout
Took until 935 in the half
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 23, 2010 1:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
MR took a decent shot...
but TH made the play
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
Radio?
Hi Bruins,
Is KLAC not carrying this game? Or is it only on a standard radio and NOT via the allegedly live broadcast on the KLAC Web site?
No TV, and ESPN Gamecast is too slow!
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
http://www.justin.tv/mbootymah
pw: 2inarow
by truebluebruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
so MAH practices by himself and develops a shot
where were our other players?
And, why don’t our guys practice ft’s on their own?
sjh
The other guys are missing layups
MAH doesn’t shoot those
Mustafa had a shot from day one
I started noticing right away that he could really shoot well. He seemed to always be hitting 3’s in junk time when the subs went in.
OK....MAH is giving us the outside shots...
now lets get TH and RN to work the inside. We need some points in the paint.
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
And a 3rd tornado warning for east Contra Costa Co...
good thing there is a non-bay area feed around
formerly bruinhoo
Is there like a justin.tv feed for the game?
Or anything online at all?
http://www.justin.tv/mbootymah#r=UAR3BqA
password: 2inarow
by onedeterminedpanda on Jan 23, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
defense
looks good today. Bruins missed a lot of easy shots or this game isn’t close.
sloppy on offense
but tough on defense. Need to stretch this lead to 10 at half.
When he drops the shoulder like that
it is almost always going to be called a charge
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but CBH countered by taking out ND
and MAH back it
meh
weak on the first rebound; and the kid got a decent look on the shot by switching onto MAH as well.
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Keep MAH on the floor...
We lost the points when he was sitting.
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
cant believe we are ahead after hearing that stat
by 84 on Jan 23, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
having MAH and MR on the court at the same time
is not a recipe for great rebounding.
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly, especially since we only recently transitioned to zone
If we continue to play zone we should see some improvement in rebounding over the rest of the season
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding open seats in the upper section
I’m a senior at UCLA. The last three years, I got the full den season ticket package. This year, I only got half the games; as such, I don’t have tickets to this game. I would love to be sitting in one of those empty seats in the upper section, but can’t…
Completely agreed
and i know people with the other plan who would have loved to be at the Washington game as well
by onedeterminedpanda on Jan 23, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Stand-by, I believe
From what I have read on here before, students have to line up and can’t actually go in until some point after teh game has started (if I recall correctly)?
formerly bruinhoo
This is accurate
Students have to line up at CTO and can’t get tickets until the game starts, so they miss out on a part of the game.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
I don't know
I’m a student and I just got a ticket for the Washington game 5 minutes before tip-off. They’re supposed to put the extra tickets on sale starting at tip-off so at most you’d miss 5 minutes of the game.
You Can't Get Tickets Somehow?
That’s so absurd
There’s no ticket exchange or something?
Love My Bruins
Nope
a ticket exchange would be brilliant, but there’s been absoluetly no effort to implement it
by Icey Hotshot on Jan 23, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Not for students
One of the things that CTO/Marketing/whoever really needs to work on. With the electronic ticketing, it would not be that difficult to implament.
formerly bruinhoo
Best lineup for 2nd Half
RN (5), TH(4), MR (3), MAH, ML
Use JK as a sub. Personally I like playing seven.
Oh and on the 7th player. if ND hits then he can play more otherwise, he plays to rest MAH. Like that symbolism for a lot of reasons.
I'm not sure
how well that lineup could rebound over extended minutes
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Good Point
And that is one of the reasons we are losing on rebounds but MAH is hitting the open shots which ND is not.
playing MR, ML, and MAH
together just makes us pretty small. I don’t know how often we can keep them in together.
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
and also slow
not that ND is any quicker, but playing small AND slow is not normally very effective.
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
TH at 4 in a zone is no different than 3
It is different on offense.
The key trade is ND for MR on defense and MAH for ND on offense. MR is smaller not slower than but how many rebounds does ND have?
On offense, I think this works today (not always) and not if ND is hitting. ND is not giving us much now.
MR at the 3
does hurt us in the 2-3 zone though.
I would prefer to see him stay up at the 2 as much as possible
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
+20
TH is our best rebounder when he gets to go up against a SF. Playing him at the 4, we lose our only rebounding advantage.
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
TH key is quickness
Not sure it hurts him as much. He is not going to out muscle anyone. BTW, I love TH and he is my favorite player on this team.
It's great to not be behind
but we should be farther ahead.
That sloppy period allowed them to get back in the game.
sjh
lousy routine by the bears
Joe and Josephine abd a 3rd bear
Stunk
More wheelchair basketball
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 23, 2010 2:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This could be a fun second half
a high pressure, fun fill second half is coming!
UCLA '08
Wanna hear something crazy?
So, I am watching the game on my laptop computer through my home television from 30,000 feet! The picture is not great but it works! Pretty cool…
GO BRUINS!!!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
it was like a turnover
leaving it that short lets them take the rebound and run.
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Foe some reason
I can’t reply, so this is for 66, British and Nestor – Yes, Slingbox and this Delta flight has an internet connection. Very cool, considering I had to miss a home game today. GO BRUINS!!!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
There was a similar play last game
got it to the middle, attracted the D, dumped it off. We don’t have the ballhandlers to drive and dish but we have decent passers for this type of play
I think we are undefeated in the academic player comparisons this year.
But can’t recall the Stanford game one
Cmon bruins
Gotta make free throws
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
WSU weak inside
those dunks are uncontested
Loughborough, Leicestershire, East Midlands...
or… “a couple of hours drive North of London”…
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, not with a team that can go a couple of minutes without getting a shot off
it’s a dagger if we stay intense and handle the ball well
sjh
I am surprised by its effeciveness against these guys today
Gotta be honest didn’t think it was going to work well. But there is plenty of game left.
We just didn't have the lateral quickness
to be a man team. I think our record would be a bit better if Howland recognized that from the beginning
That's right
First 100 point game during CBH tenure
I think we were, against New Mexico State
by Icey Hotshot on Jan 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
mostly because
they keep missing shots and we keep making them (or charging…)
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
we have a basketball team
May not later. May not next week but we are playing with intensity and teamwork
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Mustafa
Is our good luck charm CBH. Use accordingly :)
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
No, good luck charms are the old regime
Mustafa is a good old fashion hard worker.
by Gen2Bruin1987 on Jan 23, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
It starts with the zone
we haven’t been giving up nearly as many easy ones as we were when we were playing our slow-footed version of man
'silly' pac ten referee
substitute word for silly
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Honey
With the sweet pass. Now sub in lee for drago
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Just not the same without Anderson ...
we’re actually almost pretty good now.
by Achilles on Jan 23, 2010 2:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
he is a less good passer
than TH, MR, ND, JK, MAH, ML…
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
JA
Should be benched from now on. We seem to be a real team without him.
MR has learned
to expect the unexpected…
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
We improved when we got rid of Gordon ...
and really improved when we got rid of Anderson.
If we get rid of Ragovic we might make the Sweet 16.
Great pass drago
Not! Once again showing his poor bball skill
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:36 PM PST via mobile reply actions
maybe just trying
to reset the shot clock?
Smart player. ;-)
by britishbruin on Jan 23, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
As should 6 of the last 8 teams WSU has played
since he scored at least 18 in all of those games
TH has done a great job today
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Do you all realize ...
that the only guy playing at this point from the highly-touted, number one recruiting class in the country is Lee. Holiday is in the pros, Gordon is transferred and Morgan and Anderson are hurt.
We are actually getting more out of the freshman class than the UCLA Magazine cover boys.
Let's close this out now
With some frickin defense. Close out on the shooters please.
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Who would have ever thought ...
that we’d be winning by playing a motion offense without a real point guard and by going zone on occasion?
Either someone kidnapped Ben Howland and substituted a robot or Howland is more adaptable than we thought.
It actually looks ...
like we’re running the offense through TH … sort of like AZ used to do with Luke Walton or something like that.
UW was stupid
They were key on ND and doubling him. On offense they forgot about Poindexter. WSU is adjusting correctly.
Much time left
Gotta make FTs bruins.
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Don Maclean must have been a mass murderer ...
in a previous life.
How else can you explain having to work side by side with Chris Roberts one night and Barry Tompkins the next?
ugly to watch
when you can’t have your point guard running the point because of his FTs
Even with as bad as we are at the line
we are still gonna get at least 1 on average each time we go to the line. Hard to come back from down 10 or more by trying to trade 2 for 1
by uclamatt2007 on Jan 23, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
I've Never Heard
of Drago claiming to have carried his teams to victory on his back, or anything like that. If you have quotes from him which are at all Lavin-esque, please provide links.
Love My Bruins
Not sure Lavo stole credit cards
That was Gottlieb. Definitely agree with everything else and he did still money.
As for Drago, he still has a court case pending against him for being a felon.
I Actually Meant
that he consistently takes credit for “his part” of UCLA’s basketball legacy.
Love My Bruins
For Bruingirl83
A few years ago against Stanford I needed 20 with just over two minutes left. We got into a free throw shooting contest and the over got there. You have a shot. That being said, it was Josh Shipp and Darren Collison shooting the free throws in that one.
2:30 left
Let’s play some defense bruins.
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 2:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That's 200 freethrows
For Reeves Nelson this coming week.
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 3:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good job bruins
Holding home court.
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 3:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Dragovic
Can’t believe I’m saying it but… player of the game?
Not even close
Mustafa or Reeves
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 3:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
standing, standing, standing
sit down!
UCLA '08
We shot better from the field thna the line today
FG: 26-44 (6-13 3pt). 59.1%
FT: 16-28. 57.1%
formerly bruinhoo
Back to back
And Anthony Barr. Bruins on the rise! Great week woohoo!
by BruinArts on Jan 23, 2010 3:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
we seem to be developing a personality
Solid zone D. Lots of help maybe too much. Packing the paint
Going to give up wide open 3s late in the shot clock
Offense focused on the paint with jumpers as a change of pace
Worked well in 2 games. When we got in trouble this game we settled for the jumpers
We will see if we can keep it up
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 23, 2010 3:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions
How would you like your crow?
Fun
Ah, too bad we lose on saturday
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by 03rdn9 on Jan 21, 2010 9:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Go UCLA!
Did we force any bad shots on offense?
Most of our shots seemed in the offense and shot selection was good.
played well overall
made our shots in the 2nd half except from the line which remains a problem. Defense is looking good, give CBH credit for this zone! overall, fun to see such a young team with role player seniors coming together. Can we win one in the state of Oregon?
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