Spaulding Roundup: Seniors Shine, Crunch-time For Recruiting & A Surprise QB For UCLA
Let's start the week with a little reset on our football team. Have some news and notes to pass involving our seniors, recruiting madness and also a little surprising within the team involving a QB. I will start with the senior. longbordr52 already took note of Ryan Moya making a name for himself in the East-West Shrine game. It looks like there were three other seniors who also played in that game and represented the Blue and Gold really well:
Austin made two receptions for 18 yards (the West only had 12 completions), averaged 8.0 yards on two punt returns (one for 15) and had 24 yards on two kickoff returns.
Verner returned one kickoff (13 yards) and one punt. On defense, he made three solo tackles and broke up one pass.
Carter was third on the West team with five tackles (four solos), including one for a two-yard loss.
ATV actually wrote a post about the week leading up to the shrine game. It sounded like he along with his Bruins team-mates did really well during the practices leading up to the game:
On the football side, it's been an interesting but intense week. Monday through Wednesday were intense practices, with the latter of the two practices each day being in full pads. Scouts flooded the sidelines from goal to goal and all eyes were on us. I have been doing exceptionally well, making plays when presented the opportunity. I have made a couple of interceptions and break-ups through the drills. Reggie Carter has been solid in the middle; Ryan Moya has adjusted to his new spot at h-back very well and Terrence Austin made several touchdown catches on Wednesday. Overall, UCLA has been well represented this week.
We will have fingers crossed for all of those guys. While ATV and co. are working to get to next level, UCLA coaches are in a full court press mode to close out this year's class. More on that and a very interesting roster note re. QB situation after the jump.
So Craig Haubert from Scout.com did a little breakdown of Pac-10's recruiting classes to date on ESPN. Here is his capsule on UCLA:Commits: 18 | ESPNU 150: 4
The Bruins' goal of closing the recruiting gap between cross-town rival USC just got more difficult with Lane Kiffin and Ed Orgeron arriving. However, this is a talented top-20 class with a pair of in-state running backs ranked in the top 10 nationally at their position. Under Armour All-American Jordon James (Corona, Calif./Corona) has a great blend of speed, shake and deceptive power. Malcolm Jones (Westlake Village, Calif./Oaks Christian) is a strong downhill runner, who can carry the load and wear down a defense. The Bruins also added another potential weapon at running back in ESPNU 150 ATH Anthony Barr (Torrance, Calif./Loyola), who has a nice blend of size, speed and athleticism. However, the No. 11 ranked athlete in the country could also play as an H-back or even on defense. It is important to note that his senior season was cut short by a broken ankle and it will be interesting to see how he rebounds from it. On defense, linebacker Aramide Olaniyan (Woodberry Forest, Va./Woodberry Forest) brings speed and smarts to the defensive front seven. Defensive tackle Julious Moore (Bellevue, Wash./Bellevue) is an explosive penetrator. However, losing Nottingham to Stanford last weekend hurts a position still in need of depth.
Top prospect: James fell a bit under the radar in the early going due to limited junior footage as a result of a hand injury. However, when healthy, this explosive and sudden 190-pounder can hurt defenses between the tackles with yards after contact or on the perimeter with great outside burst and long speed. He should see the field early in Westwood as a complementary back.
Don't be surprised if: Kip Smith (Broomfield, Colo./Legacy) is the next excellent UCLA kicker. Rated No. 2 at his position by ESPN, Smith is versatile and can kick off, punt and has long range on field goals.
Of course coaches are now working to closeout these last few weeks. Again here is the list of Bruin targets Ryan identified heading into signing day:
- Owamagbe Odighizuwa- DE, Portland, OR (Nebraska, Oregon, UCLA, Oregon St.)
- Markeith Ambles- WR, McDonough, GA (LSU, North Carolina, Tennessee, USC, UCLA)
- Ego Ferguson- DT, Chatham, VA (Cal, Florida St., LSU, Miami, Notre Dame, Maryland, Nebraska, UCLA, Oklahoma)
- Cassius Marsh- DT, Westlake Village, CA (LSU, UCLA, USC)
- Ricky Heimuli- DT, Salt Lake City, UT (UCLA, BYU, USC, Utah, Oregon, Oregon St, Washington)
- Dietrich Riley- DB, La Canada, CA (UCLA, USC, Tennessee, Notre Dame, LSU)
- Josh Shirley- LB, Fontana, CA (Arizona, Miami, Notre Dame, UCLA, Oregon, Tennessee, USC, Wahsington)
- Anthony Jefferson- ATH, Los Angeles, CA (Cal, Oregon, UCLA)
- Hayes Pullard- ATH, Los Angeles, CA (Arizona St., Oregon, UCLA, USC, Washington, Notre Dame)
- Sealii Epenesa- DT, Honolulu, HI (Baylor, UCLA, Oregon St.)
- Jordan Zumwalt- LB, Huntington Beach, CA (Stanford, UCLA, USC)
- Giovanni Di Poalo- OL, Ventura, CA (USC, UCLA)
What stands out to me is how that list is overwhelmingly geared towards defense. So much for the stigma of CRN just being obsessed with offensive skill positions. If CRN closes out with Epenesa, Pullard, Jefferson, and Heimuli or Marsh, I will be ecstatic. If he brings in both Heimuli and Marsh and adds Zumwalt and Owa to the equation, he should be considered as a recruiting God from here on out.
Speaking of Owa, it's going to be an intense battle for him. Not only it is going to be difficult to pry him out of Oregon, Nebraska is a making a huge run for him too. There is a really cool piece on him (and another Oregon recruit) in the News Tribune (a Washington news outlet) that describes his potential as a defensive menace:
(Curtis) White is slated to sign with Oregon on Feb. 3, national letter of intent day. Odighizuwa is undecided but has narrowed his choices to UCLA, Oregon and Nebraska.
In fact, Nebraska coach Bo Pelini was in Odighizuwa’s living room Thursday night, according to multiple news reports, along with his defensive staff, to make a final push in landing the blue-chipper from Nigeria.
Oregon’s Chip Kelly and UCLA’s Rick Neuheisel already made their final visits.
"Totally unblockable?" White said when asked about his in-state counterpart. "I feel (Odighizuwa) could be like that at the college level very early. If he doesn’t end up in the Pac-10, he will be a load wherever."
Again, my gut tells me that UCLA was in the driver seat early for him but now it's a pitch battle against Nebraska and Oregon. If CRN somehow manages to pry him out of there, it will be nothing short of amazing.
Of course, QB spot has been an interesting topic of discussions thanks to the shady way Nottingham decommitted in last couple of weeks. There has been a lot of discussion re. UCLA's QB depth. Next year we will have Kevin Prince and Richard Brehaut, who as far as we knew would be followed by Nick Crissman and Ted Landers (a preferred walkon I think). Looks like we have another name to add to the mix. WestwoodBob, an astute poster on BruinZone spotted the name Clayton Tunney in our official roster, who is listed as a RS sophomore transfer from UC Davis. To the youtube we go:
Well at least the tape looks interestingly impressive. Here is his bio from UCDavis:
Attended Hampden Academy (Maine) for two years, then La Costa Canyon HS for his junior and senior years... Lettered in football and basketball... Earned first-team All-America honors at Senior Bowl (Shreveport, La.)... Also captured All-North County and All-Palomar League first-team distinction... Led North team to victory in Alex Spanos North-South All-Star Game... Set school season records for passing yards (2,400), completions (158) and TDs (19) in 2004... Named to San Diego Union-Tribune All-Academic team.
It also looks like some people were wondering why he wasn't getting offers despite having a great senior season. From Maxemfinger.com around 2005:
SHREVEPORT, Louisiana - Recruiting is a funny game. Actually, it is not funny, sometimes it's disgusting. Clayton Tunney was the 5A number one in total yards passing and he was selected as one of five finalist as the Prep Pigskin Player of the Year Award! The kid that won that award was in 3A football and he is going to Dartmouth. Jason Forcier was also a finalist and he is going to Michigan.
Tunney was CIF 5A Passing Leader of the Year in the San Diego Area and he does not have a scholarship offer while three other quarterbacks in lower classifications in the San Diego Area already have their scholarships in-hand and are preparing to enter school next fall on a full scholarship.
Here are his senior accomplishments for 2004: 2004 Max Emfinger All-American Bowl Game Classic; 2004 First Team All CIF San Diego Tribune; 2004 First Team All North County San Diego; 2004 First Team All Palomar Conference; 2004 Prep Pigskin Player of the year finalist (one of five finalist)(Reggie Bush won it two years ago.); 2004 All time most prolific passing at La Costa Canyon High school. (He broke the record of Kevin O’Connell who is the starting quarterback at San Diego State; 2004 First time in school history that LCC beat Torrey Pines; First time in school history that LCC played in the CIF Semifinals; and he was the 2004 Number one total passing yards for a Division-I CIF QB for San Diego.
It is interesting that other quartertback's from San Diego, who played in smaller Classifications such as Jason Forcier (MICHIGAN); Derrick Shaw (ARIZONA STATE); and Sean Canfield (OREGON STATE) have already gotten their offers and have committed to Major D-1 schools and Tunney does not have a single offer yet.
In the All-Star Bowl Game Classic, Tunney completed 8 of 13 passes for 147-yards and two touchdown and he also ran for another touchdown while splitting time with another quarterback, Clint Bricker, who also does not have an offer from a D-1 school yet
What is the most disappointing of this recruiting story is that every college coach that sees Tunney on film, tells him and his family that he is the best that they have seen on film, but still no offer has come
"I thought Tunney came along way this year and he turned into a great quarterback," said Head Coach Darrin Brown. "We didn't always block for him all year and he was one of our most prolific passers in school history. What a great season he had. Like I tell the recruiters, he is very mechanically sound and is very accurate. He's the best kid I have seen at throwing on the run, and the best at 1,3 and 5 step on time."Well that was 2005. Tunney went on to UC Davis and then took his LDS mission. So by that calculation he is about a 23 year old red-shirt sophomore on UCLA's roster.
I don't think the kid is some kind of magic bullet. However, I do find this situation very interesting.The kid doesn't sound like an ordinary walk on. I also think the LDS connection with Chow and Prince probably played a factor of him coming on to UCLA. Prior to Neuheisel's arrival, Karl Dorrell would instantly give a scholarship to this kind of player. Instead these days, UCLA has only room for him as a walkon because CRN is bringing in so much talent.
In this case, seems like Tunney could potentially be a serviceable backup option as the 3rd or 4th QB on the roster. That can only help to bridge the QB gap, as Bruins can work on bringing in one or two elite QB recruits next season. Plus after all this is the school with the legend of John Barnes who gave us "a little rush" that was Musafa Abdul Hamid's buzzer beater on steroids.
GO BRUINS.
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I started watching the video for Clayton Tunney and almost didn’t watch 99% of it. The writing in the very beginning jumped out at me when it said that he redshirted and went on his LDS mission. I completely agree that it is great to bring him here as a 3rd/4th string walk-on, since he has great size and it will be nice to see what he can do. But based on our previous experience with a QB who goes on an LDS mission and tries to come back to play at the same level as he did in high school (I think we all know who I’m referring to), I have moderate concerns over basing his abilities off of his highlight reel.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to bash the kid at all. It really is great to have him. But unlike offensive lineman or most other positions, where they can return after 2 years and get back into physically great shape to return to top football form, a QB two years removed from the game loses a ton of progress since his game depends to incredibly heavily on mental preparedness and consistent progress. I don’t know why he wasn’t offered a scholarship anywhere though. That is interesting.
All of that said, I agree completely with you Nestor that it’s great to have this guy here as a walk-on to fill the QB gap for this year. He has great size for a QB, scrambles really well (from the video) and seems to hit receivers in stride (as JulianD just mentioned). It could be because I just woke up, but does it seem to anyone else like some clips in the highlights are digitally sped up a tad bit?
Quick feet and release
“some clips in the highlights are digitally sped up a tad bit?”
I had that same thought after watching several of the plays. He seemed to be very quick afoot and his release was almost too good to be true. All in all, he looked to be pretty good. Good size, decent arm, decent speed, and seemed to be very accurate when throwing off the wrong foot. Could be fun watching him develop.
by LongtimeBru on Jan 25, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
parallels are there, but...
he who you are referring to was brought in as a “savior” for our program. he was a 5 star recruit according to everybody. and was certainly top 5 qb’s in the 05 class, even though he was away from the game for a few years.
i totally agree with your hesitancy but i think this guy knows, as does our coaching staff, he’s simply in the mix…
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
Max Hall
IIRC he also took his mission and then came back to BYU. He seemed to have worked out fine for them. We probably should look into more examples. I am guessing the results are inconclusive.
Good point
But Max Hall also had the fortune of playing behind a very solid offensive line (whose median age had to be close to 22 or 23). I agree though, there should be more examples studied before anybody (myself included) makes a sweeping generalization about IDS mission qbs.
by longbordr52 on Jan 25, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Found a five year old (pre Max Hall) article on this topic
The link is here:
http://coloradostate.scout.com/a.z?s=132&p=2&c=386324
This part probably sums up what you were thinking about this.
“Returned Missionary Status at the Skill Positions Is Not a Great Advantage
Steve Young, Marc Wilson, Gifford Nielson, Jim McMahon, Ty Detmer, and Steve Sarkisian are some of the great quarterbacks to play at BYU. None of them ever served full-time missions. In fact, up until 2001 when Brandon Doman had a breakout senior year BYU had only marginal success with return missionary quarterbacks.
Moreover, the list of RM quarterback busts in that same time frame is much longer than the above list of great quarterbacks. Naturally, BYU hopes that current quarterback John Beck can buck the curse of being a return missionary quarterback.
Likewise, the running backs who have served missions have had limited success at BYU. In fact, the two most successful running backs in BYU history Jamal Willis and Luke Staley never served missions.
The logical deduction is that return missionaries are at a disadvantage relative to non-missionaries when playing at the skill positions. Nevertheless, BYU has the hope that this trend will change for the better since many of its current athletes at the skill positions are return missionaries. So far, the results have not been great.
by 84 on Jan 25, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Also apparently Max Hall left his mission early
completing 7months out of the two years. He did redshirt a year at ASU prior to his mission as well.
by 84 on Jan 25, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
A really fascinating read. Thanks for posting it!
The only part that makes me a little concerned about our own XSF (and they didn’t even speak much about non-skill position athletes) is the comment that many LDS mission athletes return more mentally mature, but have less focus on football and lack the same killer-instinct they had before leaving.
I think that’s a really valid point, and the only thing that would truly concern me about an offensive lineman. Fortunately, it seems that BYU has many successful trench players that return from missions, but this will definitely be a concern of mine in the back of my mind for when XSF returns.
It's not surprising to me
why he wasn’t offered a scholarship.
Why would a school give a scholarship to a QB who will come in as a freshman, most likely never play, then go on a 2 year mission, only to basically re-open his recruiting. That’s an utter waste of a scholarship in my opinion.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
now I know I'm getting older
Nice post up. It sure sounds like we will get a few surprises, and if not at least there has been a lot of news spreading across regarding our Bruins and our move back towards the top. I now realize I am getting older when Giovanni Di Poalo, who’s dad was my High School & college Football coach, is being recruited, wow! I put in a few reasons why he should come to UCLA to his mom ( my old Math teacher) I hope he chooses wisely. She said that they really liked CRN, but had nice visits with Oregon and $C as well. . We shall see.
Go Bruins.
Tunney
From looking through the 2008 Davis media guide, it appears that he returned to UC Davis in the fall of 2008 after completing his LDS mission, though did not appear in a game for the Aggies. He transferred out after that season/academic year and was on the Bruin football team this past fall, sitting out under transfer rules, but appearing in this year’s Team Photo, among other signs that we missed that he was around.
formerly bruinhoo
Wow
I just realized I saw him at the bowl game. I asked who he was on here and no one replied! He’s been in the system for a while now
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Jan 25, 2010 10:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Cool To See Our Guys Shine In The Shrine Game!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Jan 25, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions
Heimuli
Looks like he will go the XSF LDS route and play 1 and then take 2 off. Looks like DT will be a huge need next year as well. I know there was some bad luck Brendan Warner not getting admitted and Mobley not getting admitted but they didn’t sign a DT a few years in a row, that just can’t happen.
where does that info come from?
I know Heimuli is LDS, but has he stated to reporters that he’s going to do his mission after 1 year?
by longbordr52 on Jan 25, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Greg Biggins ESPN
It is behind the firewall.
Wow
This guy’s highlight tape looks great.
UCLA '08
of course
all these plays seem to be one option looks. The big step moving up is often the QB’s ability to make reads and check downs.
UCLA '08
by BruinTrouble on Jan 25, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
RS Soph
He is the same year as Prince, Brehaut, Crissman. Neat story, but he should have done a 3 year mission and come in this year where we have no QB.
nitpicky detail
I’m pretty sure you can’t do a 3 year mission. The LDS church won’t allow it. (I could be wrong, but that’s just what I’ve read).
From Star Trek IV:
[Explaining Spock’s odd behavior]
Kirk: Oh, him? He’s harmless. Part of the free speech movement at Berkeley in the sixties. I think he did a little too much LDS.
QB prospect
We can’t have too many qb’s. If this kid hasn’t lost many skills on mission(lets remember Ben Olson) he could put himself in mix. While many find their skills eroded some others do quite well. QB’s though are a special breed
Ben Olson 2.0
Sorry, had to say it. Glad Rick’s saving a scholie.
The Mad Bruin
BRUIN QB
Nestor,
Thanks for all of the research on C. Tunney, Where do find on this stuff……… on line?
I don’t have the time to look it all up on the net so I just checked with a couple of the players on the team to see if he is legit.
He transferred into the Bruins late in the fall. Was ineligible because of transferring in from UCDAVIS. So even if Chow wanted to use him this year it was a no go. I guess the players said he lit it up in the scrimage practices, lead the scout team and smoked the 1st team D to the grind of the D coordinator. This is one of Chow’s guys. Chow tried to recruit him out of high school and when he found out that he transferring to BYU after his mission, Chow convinced him to go to the Bruins. I will find out more over the weekend. Hope this isnt another Olson story…I try to forget that one.
C. Tunney
got up date…will do tonight….its all pretty good
QB is Legit
Finally spoke to a few of the seniors today. Absolutely Tunney is Chow’s guy! Chow was nervous after spring ball last year when Prince and Brewie stunk it up in the spring game and the offensive passing attack was anemic, so over the summer he gets Tunney to transfer into UCLA as his insurance policy. The receivers love his big arm and his ability to throw the vert passing game. Found out that he played in the same league his senior year in high school against Sean Canfield who was the “Pac 10 QB” of the year this year at Oregon State . Long story short, Tunney was 1st Team ALL League, First Team All North County and First Team All San Diego Union Tribune. Canfield came in second to him in all selections and they were both Seniors. Canfield is on his way to the NFL after an incredible year with the Beavers. Tunney a couple of years behind him because he went on a mission. I don’t think Chow would of brought him in unless he was going to use him. So what was he doing at UDavis?? Players are already talking about the competition that is going to happen at the QB position for Spring ball. It’s suppose to be a two horse race….Prince and Tunney..>>>Brewie is in Chow’s dog house and Crissman’s shoulder is shot… Let’s face it after 13 games this past season I don’t think Chow or Nue was that excited about the progress of who was taking the snaps. If it wasn’t for the big shutdown D we had this year we would of been 5 and 7 . NESTOR TELL ME MORE>>>>>

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