Recruiting Roundup: UCLA's Momentum, More On Marsh & Interesting Roster Move(s)
by Nestor on Jan 28, 2010 7:08 AM PST
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We have less than a week to go till signing day. Seems like all of us have recruiting related tidbits in our mind almost every day. So might as well put up another thread with some news and notes related to UCLA. Last week Anthony Barr's commitment created a big splash around the college football world since that battle was a show down between CRN and Brian Kelly from Notre Dame. This week it's been the Cassius Marsh story. Ted Miller is noticing how the Bruins are closing strong:
UCLA's recruiting class, presently ranked 17th by ESPNU, may be moving up.
The Bruins need defensive linemen, and Rick Neuheisel secured a commitment Tuesday night from one of the best in California: Cassius Marsh (Westlake Village, Calif./Oaks Christian).
Gold from the Daily News interviewed Marsh's Oaks Christian high school coach - Bill Redell - following the commitment:
"When he went back for the Army game, he was away from home for a week, and I think he recognized - and this shows some maturity - that he didn't like being away from home."
Marsh's commitment is the latest in high-impact pickups for the third-year UCLA coach. Loyola running back/linebacker Anthony Barr - Scout's No. 10 outside linebacker - picked the Bruins over Notre Dame on Jan. 21.
More importantly, Marsh comes from the hotbed of talent that is Oaks Christian, joining UCLA along with Lions teammate Malcolm Jones, the No. 3 running back in the country.
But most importantly? Marsh will join a Bruins defensive front decimated by the departure of superstar defensive tackle Brian Price to the NFL and the graduation of Korey Bosworth, Jerzy Siewierski and Jess Ward.
Meanwhile, there are some movement on the roster side that could potentially give us a little hint of what might be going on in the recruiting world. Let's go over to the other side.
Chris Foster from the LA Times tweeted (HT BlueReign):
DT Connor Bradford will move back to the OL. He had moved to defense last August.
I am also hearing that along with Bradford, Sean Sheller might be moved back to OL as well. Those moves should stock up the OL roster for next season. I wonder though if the coaches are feeling confident about certain defensive players who they are on during these closing days? Should be very interesting. I will be absolutely floored if they somehow managed to land both Heimuli and Owa. I think Owa is going to be an all out battle against Nebraska and Oregon State. The depth chart is going to be very interesting at that spot after signing day and I still think we should consider moving Nate Chandler over to DL, where he has the potential to shine.
Also, speaking of recruits three of our current commits - Malcom Jones, Chris Ward and Kip Smith - were named in the Parade All American team. We could potentially have more in that team as other familiar names such as Owa and Hayes Pullard (who will be a fantastic get for our LB corps if he commits to Bruins) are also in the team. Gold has the link on his blog.
So that's what I got for today. Let us know if you are reading other info related to recruiting we haven't spotted yet or hearing information for credible sources that we should keep in mind. College football recruiting has never been so much fun in Westwood.
GO BRUINS.
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Pullard
I’m hearing Hayes Pullard is leaning towards sc… the fact they are still getting kids to even consider going to a school facing possible sanctions tells me they already know the sanctions will be minor…
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's"
John Wooden.....
Looks like
You are “hearing” this “scoop” from Rivals.com. It’s (referring specifically to Pullard info) already been shot down on Scouts.com where even the Trojan site has Pullard favoring the Bruins.
If you want to bring information here (and haven’t been around here long without much of a track record), it would be helpful if you come with citations/links because we don’t put a lot of stock into what people are “hearing” unless that poster has a credible track record in this community.
i know Gold isn't exactly Mr. Reliable yet
but he’s said repeatedly that he would be “very surprised” if Pullard doesn’t end up a Bruin.
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I’d like to know where that rumor is coming from, but regardless of Pullard, I am still baffled that recruits are sticking with $c. Petey leaves and a sanctions meeting is coming and there is no effect on recruiting? They must know or they are SAYING they know the sanctions will be minor, or will just take away past victories etc. That makes me SO mad and I hope it is not true. They are making a mockery of the rules and laughing in the NCAA’s face. Embarassing.
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
I wouldn't expect any different
from Kiffy. He makes John Edwards look like Mother Theresa. He will say and do anything for his own gain. Anyone who trusts anything that comes out of that guy’s mouth really is about as gullable and impressionable as they come.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
If an assistant 'coach' promised you
1. a free car
2. a house for your parents
3. unlimited nfl exposure
4. never having to take a real class in college.
5. 6. 7. 8. (the list goes on)
wouldn’t you (as a kid with a low GPA and a 300 on the 2400 SAT) listen?
Parents?
But why aren’t the parents seeing through these shenanigans? Why would you want your child associated with such scum? I don’t get it. My parents never even suggested I go to $C because they didn’t want to go to a private college full of privileged underachievers. They wanted me to earn my way through life. I blame bad parenting here.
Well, they get an assistant coaching job out of it...
But in all seriousness, I’m not sure why they don’t see this and/or have a say in their kid’s decision.
by longbordr52 on Jan 28, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
The Parents Are Listening
and they are demanding a 5-bedroom home rather than the 4-bed that SC was promising in light of the looming sanctions.
Actually a couple big uncommitts
like Lache, and Owa eliminated SC because their parents severely dissaproved
"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson
$UC and Sanctions
Do you really think that if SC had information that the sanctions are going to be significant they would share this with recruits. I think it is safe to assume they are telling the recruits whatever will keep them committed.
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
I hear you
I am sure they are saying whatever they have to say to keep their class in tact. It is just amazing to me that recruits are not concerned!? Why not just go to another school? These big names can go almost anywhere. I just don’t get why they would stick with $c, especially now that petey is gone and they had a mediocre season last year. Strange…
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
Say what you want about kitten and ogre but give credit were credit is due they are salesman. Right now they are selling a decent product, but when sanctions due come down the pike and another lousy year, cause they can’t score again it will be tough for them to convince high school kids to buy what they are selling.
by Marine bruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
My guess - and it's purely a guess
just$c* got something from the ncaa and have given a response. It seems to me that what the ncaa sent them is the equivalent of a civil complaint. In lots of cases, the complaint has to state what the outside parameters of damages (punishment) are. So it wouldn’t surprise me if the letter didn’t say something like “We’re going to imposes sanctions of XYZ unless you can show us a reason not to.” Then Lame starts orgeroning recruits by telling them that the sanctions are going to be a fraction of what he knows the maximum would be, knowing that just$c* has far more money and lawyers than the ncaa. Bear in mind that as the cheating went on and on and was basically ignored, the cheating cojone got bigger and bigger, and as we’ve seen it has become so big and brassy that just$c* coaches blithely admit that they have cheated and will continue to cheat. So it shouldn’t come as any surprise that Lame would orgeron recruits by playing down the extent of any sanctions.
Dillon Baxter
I think Nestor posted his TV interview here. He clearly said that Lame told him at the MOST they would have to vacate past wins. We know what they are telling the kids.
He actually said "vacate the losses".
He belongs at sc.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jan 28, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I hope I'm wrong -- and this is blatant speculation with no factual base
but I don’t think lame would have taken the job without ascertaining that the sanctions would not put him in a deep hole.
Why leave a good Tenn program, and a strong recruiting class, to go on probation?
(Ok, I know, he figured he’d just steal the class.)
I don’t expect that sc will be punished to the extent necessary to really hurt either lame or the incoming freshmen.
Finally, for some of those kids there are not that many options. Not all can qualify for a strong school — I know we are going head-to-head on a few, which means we think they meet our academic standards, but for those of you in the know, would they all qualify for UCLA?
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jan 28, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
not all do
I imagine that the staff is taking academics/admissions probability into account in considering to recruit, but it is not a foolproof system. We lost a commit just a few days ago due to an admissions rejection.
formerly bruinhoo
by Patroclus on Jan 28, 2010 1:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Here's hoping CRN earns a nice big cup of joe
Because Coffee is for Closers.
My gut is telling me this class is going to turn out better than any of us are currently thinking. No inside info, just a gut feeling on where
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:00 AM PST reply actions
things will end up
damn, meant to hit preview.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Coffee
We should seriously have coffee sent to the CRN and everyone else on signing day.
by littlebrother on Jan 28, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
that is great!!
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 28, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
it's like in the simpsons when the yakuza fights with the mafia
rick neuheisel is the guy in white. he’s gonna do something awesome, just wait…
Across The Face
I think there is one thing we are all forgetting.
The human element. We forget a lot of these kids being recruited come from single home families. So, for some of these kids growing up is harsh on them and their families. Especially if they have a bunch of brothers and sisters. A chance for a better life is appealing for them. Some of these athlete’s lack direction and sometimes have their high school coaches being as their biggest mentors. That can go a long way with the way the direction they get pushed. So when suc comes around promising and lying. They believe a lot of it. That’s why CRN is perfect for UCLA. He understands and has learned a lot from his previous coaching jobs. You could tell if CRN ever used his JD. Degree. He would of had a very successful firm. CRN should be referred to as the "CLOSER ". CRN will have more surprises on NLI.
A lot of it has to do with CFB being looked at as a business
These kids become commodities to be shopped to the highest bidder. The whole system stinks, and the NCAA is either a corrupt co-conspiritor or ineffective as an amature athletic organization. That’s why when we can pull a big time athlete from there, you know it’s someone special who is looking to improve themselves both on and off the athletic field.
"UCLA is a special place to call home"
by S Jay Bruin on Jan 28, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
i will assume you mean single parent homes.
and on that point, i’d probably disagree with you on. most of the kids that make it through and are up for football scholarships, just from my own observations, come from a 2 parent home regardless of whether they are from the burbs or the inner city. or if their parents are divorced the father is still involved in a significant capacity.
Across The Face
jeez i need a grammar check...
Across The Face
I think I am clinically obsessed
I cannot get enough of the recruiting news and absolutely cannot wait to see who all we sign. Even more, I cannot wait to see how many of these and the redshirts from last year can make an impact in the coming season.
Just think
A few years ago, there were no postings at all about recruits, and when there were, most of us wondered where CTS had dug up those players. Until Walker came, there were hardly any recruiting news worth talking about.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Agree
I am trying to figure out if I lose more productivity at work now or during the hoops tourney.
Might not
be much of a contest this year…
by BruinFanGA on Jan 28, 2010 3:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it's going to be now
I’m obsessed with getting by $UC in the recruiting rankings. I know the coaches will be closing up to the last minute.
I've already cleared next Wednesday
so I can follow the BN signing day thread. I read it last year after getting home late from work, and was riveted. Gonna go with wings and nachos first thing in the morning and morph into the couch with the laptop.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
After signing day
we get to try to guess how the coaches are going to be fitting all the new pieces into the puzzle :)
commits vs signees vs attendees
Reviewing past lists of commits and even signees, it is interesting to note that some never seem to show up. even with a signee, I still worry about them until day 1 of class. As far as $UC is concerned, who knows what they are telling recruits and what the parents are hearing many of them only looking for a future payday (or in some cases some financial help now). I can’t wait to see who and what we get on Feb 3 and will keep focused on computer and somewhat to ESPN
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