Center Court: UCLA Basketball (@ Oregon) Open Thread
by Nestor on Jan 28, 2010 7:00 PM PST
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Half an hour to go till Howland's UCLA Bruins (9-10, 4-3) tip off against Oregon Ducks (10-9, 2-5) on McArthur Court. This will be the Bruins' last game in what has been arguably one of the most intimidating venues in the West Coast. The Ducks are struggling though and as we have written in our pre-game notes they are going to be hungry and desperate for a win to break their 5 game losing streak. Will the Bruins show enough composure to play with poise and build on the consistent defensive efforts from last two games? No one here knows the answer and I guess that's why this season has been such an interesting roller-coaster trip (not necessarily fun).
Whatever happens on our side, you can count on the Ducks to come out all fired up. They pulled off a huge upset about three years ago against the eventual Pac-10 champions and Howland's defense has had issues with Oregon's athleticism and quickness in the past. It will be interesting to see how UCLA handles Porter with its new zone defense. In terms of historical numbers, UCLA is 32-19 (.627) all-time in Eugene, Ore. The Bruins have won nine of the last 10 games overall and four of the last five in McArthur Court. The last six games in Eugene have all been decided by nine points or less. The Bruins swept the season series last year, posting an 83-74 win at Oregon
Once again, Don MacLean will be doing the color commentary today which is always fun. You can read up on all of our musings leading up to this game here. If you want to follow the game online you can do so via our official site. As always, we will be here in the game threads with our rapid fire takes and commentary. So let's get this party started. Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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Gotta love the Big-12 schedule
so that Fox Sports Rocky Mtn has no local games on Thursdays. So it’s Pac-10 all night here!
Go Bruins! Make it 3 in a row!
N, is it over already?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Watching USC/Oregon St.
The Beavers look just like you’d expect from looking at their numbers. They’re tough defensively, but horrid on offense. Their offense is comical.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions
I refuse to join the chant
but yes, go Beavers.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh....
FoxSouth is showing Women’s BB…UGa v. Miss St.
I’m praying for a blowout so I can see da Bruins!
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
Always lucky..
…when the game is on in HD out here in Philly. Actually – here’s a reverse jinx: I don’t think I’ve ever watched the Bruins win in HD out here (during the regular season). Therefore, I sense an easy victory..
Also got Cal/Arizona St. on
Cal is up four with 4:20 to go in Tempe. It’s a great game.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:15 PM PST reply actions
A 12-1 run
has now turned a 13 point Cal lead into a 2 point lead with 3:23 to go and Boateng going to the line for one.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
According to the TV listing in the computer, the Bruin game is on the tube here in Tampa
The issue is whether I watch it. I feel I bring negative karma, and we have not had a picture of Jonathan BruinBabe2000, or a bunch of ragging by Nestor, or the requisite baking, etc. I’m really torn.
I miss the baking most
The thought of all the delicious food helped calm my nerves.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
No baking by me tonight
But I did make some guacamole earlier tonight. Does that count for karma?
formerly bruinhoo
Free throw good by ASU
has the lead cut down to 1. The Sun Devils were down 16 earlier this half.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions
Big 3 by Gutierrez extends the Cal lead to 4
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions
Now Patrick Christopher with a good fadeaway with the shot clock at 5
Cal leads by 6.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Now 41 sec in Corvallis
both team s miss shots. OSU fouled and shooting 1+1.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Oregon St. beats SC 51-45
All defense for the Beavers. They can lock it down.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions
I went over to conquest comicals
There was no recap on yahoo about the trOJie-Beaver game, so I wanted to see what happened. It really looks like there is zero interest in the bball team over there. The pregame thread had one comment, and the game thread had five comments. That sort of apathy seems contrary to all the trOJie talk about family, fighting on, etc. I looks like a classic example of an empty bandwagon. I look forward to watching the massive evacuation of the football bandwagon when the ncaa drops whatever sized bombshell it drops.
I won't miss the crazy atmosphere
but am I the only one who is going to miss the old school gym charm of Mac Court? The balconies and intimacy always looked so great on TV. It felt like what college basketball should be, but everyone wearing blue instead.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:31 PM PST reply actions
Having been to a game there
it’s one of the coolest places to see a game. I’m so upset I won’t be able to go again.
For those listening...
so, not you Fox…
Barry Tompkins, meh
Don MacLean, awesome.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Alas, I wouldn't know for two reasons
First, I’m still debating the karma issue.
Second, and more important, Mrs. Fox 71 could be, totally hypothetically, watching “Project Runway.” If ever there was a time to turn the sound off, it is when that show is on. I really feel all testosterone starting to dissapate, and for a geezer, there ain’t that much left in any event.
Good evening folks
Taking some time off from prepping for tomorrow’s job interview.
Here’s to a good game!
I hear Ben Ball Victories are the equivalent of hours of nitrous
Let’s cheer them on so your surgery goes easy.
sjh
Some dude
Just posted a huge fanpost blasting “UCLA basketball fans.” Of course I deleted it. I don’t get people. How do they think they can come to a UCLA fan blog and expect to get away with writing their first post blasting UCLA basketball fans?
3N
Need Nestor Negativity
Has been very good Karma lately. He is the master of reverse Karma counseling.
sjh
Cancer awareness program...
though cash would be better, IMO
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
Kinda weird timing
I remember a couple months back the NFL did something similar, but it was league-wide
perhaps they'll auction the jerseys for charity later
our women’s teams do that each season
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
pink, game worn apparel will be auctioned
proceeds going to various cancer-related charities
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
despite the noble cause, I sincerely hope we never see our guys in pink.
I know I’m the bad guy for saying so, but there you have it.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
respectfully disagree
he may be open but his percentage is terrible.
There’s a reason he’s open.
They aren’t afraid of his shot
sjh
MacLean beat me to it
Lee needs to learn the art of the jump stop
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:43 PM PST reply actions
Oregon is really extending their zone
That leaves holes, but our regular zone offense won’t find them. Hopefully CBH makes the quick adjustment to punish Oregon for the high pressure.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions
Checking to see if their last bucket was a 3
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
And all open shots
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
you could leave me open all game, too, and not worry
ND should not be shooting all of those shots
sjh
if you accept he should be on the court
then he can’t pass up every open 3 they give him. Same applies to Roll.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
and he can make ft's
I don’t mind a shot at the end of the clock, but would prefer we work for better inside shots and take some clock
sjh
gotta take what the defense gives us
the last play – RN trying to force a shot against a double team – doesn’t seem wise. Rather take the open 3s.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
i'm w/ britishbruin
he has to take the shot on those open looks
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like
Oregon’s game plan is to leave the Bricklayer open…
I sense that
we’ll bee seeing lots of UCLA turnovers tonight. Don’t know why.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Reeves needed to leave that for TH
and box out his man.
So yeah..
..I probably shouldn’t admit this but it’s actually a special date night for my fiancee and I so I promised I’d watch Project Runway with her. Hence, no watching of the game for another 45 mins or so. Somehow I managed to sneak my laptop. Can somebody post the score periodically? Rather read the comments on here than look at Yahoo or something. Thanks.
watch online
Is there any place to watch this game online?
man, i'm annoyed w/ myself for not taking the flight to oregon
dammit
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:54 PM PST reply actions
I’m going to saturdays game. This one would have been fun.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 7:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
he did...
but my wife’s sister gave birth this week (was a lil’ earlier than expected but everything’s fine), so we opted to stay in town
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
RN is hitting the weights
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 7:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions
he's actually missed easier shots than he's made, imho
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
btw, british…i tend to write that (“agreed”) a lot after your comments. you must be one smart guy! :)
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
INteresting in Zone
TH and ML on one side ND and MR on the other. Isn’t MR usually on TH side?
Honestly, if Oregon were to do breast cancer awareness money, couldn't they have asked UCLA to do the same?
Plus, usually, teams only wear an arm band or something, not those butt ugly shoes. They’re so distracting…
all the jerseys/shoes are being auctioned off this weekend to raise money
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, but I'd at least try to maximize things and ask the other team to do it too.
It would be less distracting.
Those shoes are atrocious!
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
+1
looks like they’re not clear who is supposed to be doing what. Just a free for all under the basket.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
for 2 minute spells against slow giants. I totally agree.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
I like him for a few minutes in first half
I think we could use him. We could get in foul trouble inside this game.
Especially while you're doing math homework
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 28, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
+1
very stupid indeed now we have to stick with hamid for the rest of the half
ML
Always gets a dumb foul or two a game. I like him but
that was better
Drago really shouldn’t be the guy scrambling at the end of the shot clock.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 8:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
WBB
Just so you all know, WBB is up 50-47 at the half.
That was a terrible shot
I thought video games were not applicable in real life
Formerly ucla13_usc9
Need to MOVE
if we’re playing without a point guard who can put the ball on the court, other players need to move off the ball.
Great trap by
honeycutt and roll. Leading to a steal.
hot potato
this passing is getting annoying, no one is creating.
but
as we all know this is pretty hot shooting, can we expect this the whole night?
by bruintrumpet on Jan 28, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Question...
Why does date night always mean doing what the lady wants?
Why can’t date night be wings and beer and sports and 300?
That’s my idea of a date.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Yeah... really!
But actually, I had to bail on her on our anniversary because my friend got free tix to a game. So…. let’s just say that I owe her big time. And tonight we went to dinner, etc.. So I’m not complaining too much. She’s pretty good about sports normally.
i seriously think abdul hamid has the highest bball IQ in our team right now
instead of forcing the shot, he made the pass down low
he has played himself into shape quickly
and is the real deal
our two best players are true freshmen
sjh
i like how drago's highlight plays always involve broken plays
last week it was the bad pass that bounce off the backboard
just now was deflected pass that landed on his hand
He's learning.
mustafa is gaining confidence with more minutes. making better passes than some of the others… wish we could watch lane grow the same way…
That was a Porter jackup special
typical oregon frustration shot, and we bailed him
OR is a bad team
They look terrible on offense and keep giving their big guy the ball in the corner. Not trying to jinx but we should win this game as we have the better ATHLETES. OR best hope is fouls, and we are helping them there.
we do not have better athletes
just a better coach
Wow
The guy just sank 3 FT like there were open unguarded free shots. WTF?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
What happened?
I looked down and missed it.
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 28, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
I'm enjoying
the love that Donny Mac is giving Reeves. Just in time for the +1, lol
He's not as wide or strong (yet)
but Nelson’s below the rim post moves remind me a lot of Kev Love
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:11 PM PST reply actions
it's a really, really weak draft beyond the first five
but even still, I would be shocked if he tested the waters
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Only person in this team who might even entertain the idea of "testing"
Is Lee … and even that is far fetched and would be silly at this point.
What do you mean
We have no NBA ready talent on the roster
well look at the improvement he made since his 1st game
luc could have been 1st rd pick if he left his 1st year
Huh?
What are you basing that comment on? Luc had no outside shot at the end of his first year. When he got drafted in first round after his third year, even then Milwaukee was taking a chance. You are making a lot of ignorant and uninformed observations.
interesting question on Luc though
people talked about him as a potential future lottery pick after our final four run. Might have gone earlier than he eventually went if he had come out (based on potential – his outside shot didn’t develop into a huge weapon in 2 more years…)
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
after 1st final 4
his non-existent jumpshot wasn’t exposed yet, he was as stud averaging nearly double double, it was a weak draft class, there was hype all around him….. i’m just saying nba draft a bunch of kids based on potential and hype
I could see
Honeycutt might be good enough to leave after next year, but he still has a lot to prove.
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 28, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Because he was more of pro prospect coming in. You do realize we have a clause on BN that bans people for stupid takes?
Great pass
That’s why we gotta play ML. Hope CBH looked him in the eye and said “No Fouls!”
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
We are going to need Lane tonight
SOmeone is going to foul out otherwise
this is true
unless it’s for a game winning shot
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Trigger Happy
Drago is getting a little trigger happy, everytime he gets the ball outside the arc you can see he wants to take that shot.
He made his last three 3's and it was an open look
not a bad shot, but we need to slow it down and play for inside looks
yeah
at this point, I’d like to see RN try to put Dunigan in foul trouble – doesn’t he have 2 already?
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
This frustrates me
Drago just took another open three and bricked it off the front iron. He’s so damn streaky
Question
For any gurus out there:
Does taking a charge like a screen have more incentive to call it than putting your hands up and taking a charge?
Formerly ucla13_usc9
i liked to keep my hands down to guard the jewels
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 8:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You look more guilty if your hands were up
plus hands down lets you brace a little for the impact. There’s no de jure rule, but refs are much more likely to call the “screen” looking one.
I agree
but the weird thing is, that means you’re deliberately not trying to contest and just trying to draw a player control foul.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
no
IMO, you don’t want to be moving your arms at impact. Either up or down doesn’t matter, but you don’t want to be moving them because the refs will see movement
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 8:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
wow
That was a horrible stretch of basketball.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 8:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
that's what happens when you miss open shots
and they don’t miss unopen ones
perfect time for that charge
we needed that
It was like
a jump ball from the low block with no Bruins involved
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
I'm finally watching the game
Thanks for the updates guys.
Bruins holding for last shot
nothing
foul on Oregon with 1.1 sec
TH to the line.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Keefe's defense
I’ve noticed this since he got here, and you could hear him just now on tv, he just starts yelling at the person he is defending. I have seen him just screaming into players ears why defending them. I love it.
yeah, i've got a few pics of him going crazy while defending the inbound
it’s hilariously awesome
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
his offense
or lack thereof, i really feel like is a result of howlands lack of confidence, some players grow under howlands harsh style, others wilt, and keefe is the latter.
by bruintrumpet on Jan 28, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
luc had a lot of freedom
he never figured out how to shoot
dude i went to the same games stand on the same stands as you did
he hit that one 3 to win the game early season, and got a little trigger happy, but shots won’t falling, and he simply stopped shooting, we can pull out his shot attempts through the years, stayed the same, or actually declined…. but also because klove took out all the space down low during luc’s 4th year
i mean maybe it's not the freedom problem
but luc totally lost confidence (my bad 3rd year) in his shot towards the end, he is passing out open jumpshots on the FT line
Wait
Wasn’t it publicly known that Howland was going to let him play outside more often?
Formerly ucla13_usc9
yes
and then it didn’t work out. Plus, we didn’t get as much from PAA as a power forward as expected his junior year, and more from RW as a guard, which pushed Luc to the 4 more again.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
WTH are you talking about?
Luc played for 3 years and since when did Luc lack confidence on offense? Dude … you are offering some really ignorant takes. You probably should step back, read up on our team and watch the closely.
Howland always gave Luc enough room to operate. He just wasn’t a great shooter but found a way to generate offense through rebounding and defense, and being around the ball.
Not as agressive as he has been in the past years.
Not sure if it’s the injuries or confidence. Rarely makes a move to the basket with the ball.
he normally does a good job
of screening for other players, when playing against Man-D.
Also, his passing is ok, but this zone of Oregon looks like it leaves more space on the outside than on the interior passing.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
The Bruins completely shut down on offense,
bricking everything(Roll and Drago). Funny, I can’t remember anyone else taking a shot in the last few minutes.
rn off the floor hurts us -- we lose our inside scoring
we were getting the ball to him.
JK can’t do what RN does on O
sjh
MLee hamstrung
by not being able to dribble the ball without risking an offensive foul…
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Our offense let them back in
The missed open shots would’ve ended this game, and those along with honeycutt’s failed drive gave them their chances on the other end
i think our defense let them back in
the foul on the 3ptr by Porter got him started
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
it was 29-16 after that
we were doing fine. the run started with 3:30 left, rn out, and four empty possessions in a row on O
par for the course
they are more athletic…what we can’t do is foul porter on 30 footers
that's how good he is
he haven’t even really learn how to box out
Just relax and take things in a little
And think through before offering your takes. Also, it would be cool if you hang around and offer your takes while we are talking hoops rest of the week. That way you will have a hang of this place.
Markel Walker
just got her eye poked. Not good.
Re: Pac-10 tournament
anyone know how they’ll seed/bracket the thing w/ 9 teams?
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:37 PM PST reply actions
i guess now that I think about it
#1-7 will all get a bye, and 8 will play 9 as a play-in game
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
but then they are directly into the finals
bring ucsb into the conference or something
Formerly ucla13_usc9
no
normal slate on the Thursday 1vs8or9 , 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
only difference then is the 7 doesn't have to play the 10 on the Wednesday.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Who wants to bet the Pac-10 doesn't make me pay less for the all-session tickets
even though there is one less game?
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
lol
good point. But there will be just as many ‘sessions’
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think they've made a determination yet
If they have, they haven’t posted it on their site. My guess is only one game Wednesday night and the 7th seed goes straight to the quarterfinals versus the 2 seed.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
On an OT note
I am going to lunch with my old high school football coach who was a Bruin from 1956 through 1958. He lettered in football in 1958 5’10" 175lbs Roy Benstead. Should be a good time talking Bruins.
Absolutely
I respect any Bruin. Just noting how the size of football players has changed. Sorry, I didn’t mean that badly.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
This game can be a REAL turning point
Getting a big lead on the road, blowing it, and coming back to pull out a win is the hallmark of a steady team. We have to close this out.
i say this because our D has been strong
And a 3rd win in a row would really solidify us as a 40-min team, finally
Huge game for both teams
My understanding is that it will likely be us, USC and Oregon battling it out for the second and third Pac-10 berth. Beating the Ducks is huge.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
February 28th
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Oregon shouldn't really be considered
They are leading the Pac in made 3-pointers but they are a chippy team who depends on high scoring games. I am shocked that we are outscoring them. I expected a much lower scoring game. But really its gonna be between us and USC for 2nd place.
by bruintrumpet on Jan 28, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Although if I’m wrong about anything I say, blame it on truebluebruin. That’s where I get all my info :-)
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
haha, he is dead for most
I spend a lot of time with him at those games, but i do disagree with him on that point. They have a losing record in pac-10 play, something like 3-4, and they live and die by the three. Not a recipe for success in WBB. And they lack a true post player, Ironmonger could be good if she slimmed down a bit more and fouled a lot less.
by bruintrumpet on Jan 28, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Why does Keefe get called for those?
It’s not like he swings his elbows more lustily than any other player…
he's too hesistant
could’ve drove inside, but pump faked and dribbled backwards and got trapped against the sideline
You're allowed to catch someone with an elbow
You get the space extended to your elbows and aren’t supposed to be called for that unless you’re swinging your elbows faster than your body. If Keefe swings his elbows with his body, like he did, it’s not supposed to be a foul. Nothing specific to JK, I just hate when they call that because it’s not a foul.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:47 PM PST reply actions
Nice!
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
making the open shot
no substitute for it against a zone
wilson has 4 fouls
let’s get rid of him and then go at dunnigan
has rn touched the ball this half?
sjh
Cmon TH
you dont dribble once and pick it up behind halfcourt
We are looking ... what's that word for it
“soft”
Seems to be a replay of Notre Dame and Stanford all over again.
the team looks lost right now
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 28, 2010 8:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Roll is today's Academic star
Guess FSN is getting tired of putting Abdul-Hamid up every game
formerly bruinhoo
DONT SLAP THE DAMN BALL
they’re slapping like it’s a catfight
he doesn't board, 66
he slaps the ball, at best. his hands are truly awful
He takes up space, that's it
He hasn’t shown much of a scoring touch and he hasn’t proven to be a tough rebounder. Lane has shown lot more upside than Bobo during his limited mins.
I shudder at that comment
but Dunigan is hurting us
RN does look tired...
does he have the flu or something?
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
this is a typical road meltdown
we need somebody to step up and show a pair
Our Pauley renovation will cost as much as that Matthew Knight Arena
For half of the quality. Way to go Morgan Center and everyone involved!
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 8:57 PM PST reply actions
It helps to have a Phil knight.
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Phil Knight has nothing to do with it
We’re paying as much for ours as they are for theirs. The difference is their people spent their money wisely with a great design and goals. We did the exact opposite.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
I hear yiu
And I am not a fan of the new design, but building costs are not the same. Building in LA is a lot more expensive than Oregon. I’m not offerring it as an excuse, but more money would definitely help and without deep pockets forget about it. I always felt that financial decisions are driving the decision and thus a half assed renovation. Not only that, they’re jacking up tix prices and sticking it to long time season tix holders.
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
They're building so much in addition to the arena that didn't make it into the video
We can match them in arena facilities for the same price as we’re paying for our renovation.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Terrible D
gotta get in the passing lanes, Drago
What I meant was
We got hot in the 1st half, but we can’t be hot forever
I kind of like Lane
I don’t think he’s good enough to play major minutes, but spotted in here and there, fine. I don’t get the calls for Moser though. His minutes would come from Roll or Honeycutt. No thanks and that doesn’t even get into Moser’s own struggles.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
We can't get a good shot inside.
Not sure if it us not passing well or they have made adjustments and not letting us in.
Thank God for TV time out!
Time to reload the interior offence.
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
Watching the PAC 10 Commercials
With Timmy Lince make me want to watch his highlights again
Formerly ucla13_usc9
Saw him play with Washington
Filthy then and a punk to go along with it. He fits in well with the Halloween-wearing Giants.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Is it true that he can throw 100 all game
But they can hit that better when his change up goes over 82 or something?
Formerly ucla13_usc9
This zone looks slow and tired
Good thing Howland is using the athleticism and wingspan of someone like Moser … you know who could be useful in a zone D?
who will you take out in place for moser?
drago? roll?
definitely in the 1st half
when we were losing that double digit lead
Need ML
to do something positive on offense. He has disappeared. Bringing the ball up the court ok but he needs to drive some and get involved. I know he is not making any TOs but especially when RN is out he has to look to create some.
getting killed on boards and shooting 37%
we need to settle down
ml hasn’t scored. we can’t win without some points from him
sjh
OT a little
but Matthew Knight Arena looks gorgeous. A nice looking facility coupled with a steep seats close to the court for the crowd. Then again, I expect nothing less from Phil Knight’s money.
We're spending just as much money on our renovation
Can’t you see how comparable they are?
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
well oregon is in oregon, UCLA is @ westwood, that's the difference
unless we do what NFL is doing right now, building a stadium in LA 35miles away from downtown
I don't see what that has anything to do with it
and your comparison to the NFL stadium make no sense in this conversation.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
what i mean is
land @ LA is expensive, you can’t just buy land off bel air and build a brand new court…. that’s why we can’t build an nfl stadium in LA but have to build it far far away
The land wasn't the problem with the renovation
and land costs had nothing to do with the NFL stadium going up in Industry. The stadium is going into Industry because it is outside of the city limits and an incompetent city council can’t block it out there. Land costs had zero to do with it and have nothing to do with our Pauley renovation.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Not always
but certainly in this case. Once we decided to go renovation, we were screwed.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
One option
Don’t forget that you can put the player facilities underneath so the arena footprint can be smaller than the facility footprint.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
yes, and tearing pauley up and building a new arena would be cheap?
i’m just saying, it would be like a 6-10yr project seeing how things go @ ucla
and we’ll be playing where? honda center for the next 6 seasons?
Doing so would cost roughly the same as the renovation
but the final product would be much better.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
does guys must be real dumb then not to consider what you just said
no sarcasm implied
They put their hearts before their head
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair
The choice was always going to be between vastly inferior and vastly more expensive.
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 28, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Why is that?
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Because of the area the school is in
and the amount of space available in that area
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 28, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
We had the space and we had the money
It was when we decided to renovate Pauley that we decided inferior was the way to go. A new arena would have been far superior to our renovation plans at a cheaper price.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
I mentioned it in the podcast
but I’d go with a frontcourt of Keefe, Nelson and Dragovic with Honeycutt at the 2 and either Roll or Lee at the other guard.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:07 PM PST reply actions
We did nothing on offense there
GO BRUINS!!!
by moutekicksboute on Jan 28, 2010 9:08 PM PST reply actions
As I said
When you give mins to a forward even though he doesn’t care about playing defense just becuse he can shoot some 3s, that is our identity. It’s a joke.
Lee isn't creating anything
kinda what a point guard needs to do
WHY doesn't UCLA post up ML . . .
. . . against the midget?!?!?!
WHY are UCLA’s only dribbles in the front court AWAY from the basket?!?!?!
ml needs tostart driving, quit lounging up top
Across The Face
suddenly the ducks
seem to want this game so much more
What a play Mustafa!
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions
Tompkins on Mustafa's play: "These are things that don't go in the stat book"
Actually, I’m pretty sure that was a steal….and maybe even an assist
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 9:14 PM PST reply actions
JA just moved further down the depth chart
Hamid deserves to play more minutes.
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Guard play
What’s lee stat line I know he hasn’t scored. Does anyone know why he tries to jump out of the gym on every jumpshot. His last shot could of hurt someone. Our 2 top guards lee and Anderson have been awful sorry to say.
by uclamike on Jan 28, 2010 9:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
yeah, that was a bunk kicking violation
ball was thrown off of honeycutt’s foot, not kicked
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Is it just me
Or does CBH look goofy in his suit and sneakers.
Oregon cheerleaders may challenge ours, wow
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
oregon historically recruits well in that dept
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
YEAH they do
The football game against them is always fun, those TV closeups make the game that much better.
Where do they get the tans though?
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
ha
although Westwood Tanning Club is the “Official tanning salon of the UCLA Spirit Squad.”
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
They probably all drive land rovers too
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That play by MAH was a true basketball play
Most players will get discouraged with limited minutes and having missed a couple shots, but Mustafa just found another way to contribute to the team. That’s just pure hustle, determination, and desire.
Bad night for ML?
The careless fouls in the first half, and he doesn’t look like he’s in this game
Everyone has them
the problem is we’re not a good enough team for someone like ML to have an off night.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
The zone really seems to have thrown a wrench into his aggressiveness
He can get into the lane, but I have to think Dunigan scared him a little. He’s just been passing it generically around the perimeter.
Gonna miss Mac court. So intimate
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
got to hang tough
and feed off mustafa effort
so aggravating
that sequence (5 point swing)
I don't get it
Is there some kind of impenetrable force field inside the 3-point arc, where the ball can’t be passed inside?
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Playing 4 on 5 on offense
with Lee on the floor
that should never be a jump ball
and thank god it was at least a jump ball
Which preseason game was it
That we shot something like 30 3 pointers?
I don't see us the winning this game
We are slow, mentally soft, not very smart, and don’t have the willpower.
and tired
working a 7 man rotation (or is it 6?)
It's 7
Because our coach is apparently so good about using athletically talented freshmen from the bench.
unfortunately
our athletically talented freshmen start or play major minutes already
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Well
for one play ND showed great hustle.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:24 PM PST reply actions
just don't get it -- passing around the outside for most of the clock
and ending up with bad shots
26 of our 49 shots have been 3’s
sjh
What's not to get?
That’s how Howland wants it apparently. That’s why he has gone with Rago the whole season.
This Oregon team
is the worst I’ve seen in years. They are imminently beatable. Except by us.
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anyone...
How do u set up the auto refresh for the comments? Thanks.
by iwas5... on Jan 28, 2010 9:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I cannot understand why UCLA does not even TRY to penetrate
It is downright exasperating. It is not like they are trying and are getting stripped every time. UCLA is not even trying.
Am I missing something?
We are not taking advantage of their press
We don’t even look to break the press. We need to make them pay with TH or ML driving the ball and creating against the three quarter court press.
I like TH and RN a lot though
Earlier, DMac said UCLA had a bright future with those guys. He didn’t mention Lee – was that because he expected him to go pro? Or what?
Probably b/c he's doing nothing tonight
D Mac’s just highlighting our key players tonight.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Duck fans swear more on TV than any other I've ever seen
SC fans are slightly more quick to dial up the “bullsh*t” chant though
Where the f*** is our vaunted Howland defense???
We are softer than Lute Olsen
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Still waiting for our big lineup
Take advantage of being in zone! That would be an adjustment though.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:27 PM PST reply actions
Look at how our zone broke down
on the perimeter
no direction from the PG spot
ML looks really bad.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
Come on!
I love the total offensive breakdown, lucky OR putback. Typical Bruins. I love it.
Great offense
I remember when we ran the clock down and shipp chucked a three for out last shot. Ugly.
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
good question
when you see the shot we typically settle for…
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
it's funny howland never recruited a slasher
i thought we had one w/ stanback
We are gonna be good next year
with a frontline of Smith, RN, and Honeycutt. Just need some damn guards.
WTF?!?!? 2 possession game with 1 minute left and . . .
. . . the Bruins still grind the clock down to nothing. No sense of urgency.
Rant coming up...
Howland’s teams have never been conscious of the clock in late game situations. We run 35 seconds down playing for a shot that we could have gotten just by committing to a drive earlier in the possession. We leave little to no time left for a rebound or defensive stand. I understand waiting for a good shot, but we mostly do the listless passing around the perimeter that just wastes time
yup.
it’s really where you need a point guard to create something, or at least draw a foul.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, they were running a play
It got butchered, you can’t blame them for swinging the ball around against a zone
Formerly ucla13_usc9
if they make both FT's
we will run down too much time looking for a shot. I almost guarantee it.
How does porter catch the
ball so easily. Deny him the baLL!!
????????
Explain please. Still funny . . .
by orlandobruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
this game is simply a case of having no point guard
to take 35 seconds when you’re down by four…lee just can’t lead this team from the point
you should hear
the Julliard student section at basketball games
Wait wait wait
Oregon has to just run around and not get fouled! They already won! WTF
Formerly ucla13_usc9
seems like
the Bruins let the Mac court hype get to them. winnable game for sure.
We are just a poorly led team
with seniors who can’t play D, can’t play smart offense, mentally soft and depend on 3 pointers.
finally a smart play
foul their worst foul shooter
We've reverted back to form
No defense, no offense, no leadership, no balls.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
DON'T PLAY FOR THE GOD DAMNED THREE
YOU GO FOR A QUICK 2
I typed my rant so I’ll post it, but MICHAEL ROLL I LOVE YOU
next fould puts them into the Bonus
Dunigan is the only player w/4 fouls, but he might not be able to return regardless due to injury
formerly bruinhoo
You don't have to be pessimistic...
You’re just trying to avoid a let down for yourself (general you, not anyone in particular) IMHO
Dammit
The plan was to order a carryout for dinner. The place closes at 10. I guess I’d have to look elsewhere
The fifth year senior comes through!!!!
MIKE ROLLLLLL, WHO?? MIKE ROLLLLLLLLLL
by inhowlandwetrust on Jan 28, 2010 9:37 PM PST reply actions
Balls of steel, roll.
Now if we had only held onto that first half lead, we wouldn’t be here.
GO BRUINS!!!
by moutekicksboute on Jan 28, 2010 9:37 PM PST reply actions
Bruins
hang in there and MR does what he does!! Can we play a solid OT?
Lee came up
with a big rebound though, and Roll is the man
+1 on the rebound
gotta contribute even when you’re having an off night
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
even if we win this game, it's nothing to brag about
we were up by 13 at one point and we implode
All things considered
we’ve played pretty badly, Ore was hot there for a while. We’re fortunate to be in OT, so let’s finish and win this!
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
every board is a crapshoot
but mostly on our end
Ugh
Is a Lee 3 really the shot we want to settle for?
coach needs to do a better job subing his players
he has stuck with these 5 for way too long… memories of cal state fullerton all over again…
poor ND
even when he does something right he doesnt get credit for it….
Well, since we don't make entry passes
it’s how we get the ball down low.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
So that we can Lose a heartbreaker
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Lee finally scores, 2pt,
shouldn’t have wasted time on those 3s
Taking 30 3s
Not a good way to win
GO BRUINS!!!
by moutekicksboute on Jan 28, 2010 9:44 PM PST reply actions
forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere
but is the zone normally predicated on having a big slow forward guarding a 3 point shooter up top?
Oh how I miss hearing our band play "Carry on My Wayward Son"
My favorite non-UCLA song they used to play
dude ore have one play
pass it to where drago is standing on D
I have
always supported CBH, but why does he do this in regards to his bench. The guys aren’t fresh. They are tired. Plus, when you leave the same group in the defense starts to figure things out. I’ll be pissed if he says in the paper tomorrow that he should of subbed and it was bad coaching and his fault that he didn’t. I don’t understand why Mustafa and a few of the others don’t get some time, at least to spell the others. They are tired.
Hahaha Lee and his entourage/parents can talk about the NBA all they want
but he ain’t goin anywhere with no offensive game… dude does not have a jump shot.
by inhowlandwetrust on Jan 28, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions
cal state fullerton
CBH has coached us out of this one. shades of CSF when we played the same guys for three overtimes. players will have to dig real deep. look tired.
No
This game has been slow, that did not hurt. We only need 7. Our terrible offense hurt us. ML not scoring hurt.
Hate to say
I told you so……….but these guys are dead tired!! No legs left. I can’t blame them.
well roll got us into ot
and erased it with a bonehead to
Across The Face
That blockout was Roll's fault
he was just watching the ball
Quiet blueband
everything is ND’s fault.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
LOL with the Drago boxout nonsense
no-one on the team has boxed out all night on the defensive end, hence the crapshoot on the defensive glass
If we had the talent of a decent mid-major
We’d be crushing the Pac-10. Alas, no.
Windows blue screen of death!!!!!
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 9:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i just wanted to sign in to say
how can we keep playing rago? is CBH blind to what all of us seem to see?
DO you see how bad our offense is?
We don’t have much choice.
I think today was not Drago, as much as Lee
kept throwing 3, when he should have tried getting into the paint.
Bruins are tired
CBH is too greedy. wanted to be in 2nd and .500 so bad that he stopped coaching. stuck with 5 players all night long. pulled MAR when he made the incredible hustle play and then benched him? makes no sense. then he plays these five for way too long…. still no sub. ugh!
drago
answers with a tough 3. roller coaster ride.
Bruins getting crushed on the boards . . .
. . . I have a theory why. Will raise in post game thread.
when you play a zone
youre responsible for an area instead of a specific person so you are always more susceptible to getting out rebounded. The nature of the defense.
I can't believe they have an organized chant that says
“we’re gonna beat the sh*t outta you”
who regulates these morons?
no need to apologize for having functioning eyes
by insomniacslounge on Jan 28, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
"dra-go-b*tch"??? "USA"???
clearly they learned a lot from the nasty articles written about them after the KL fiasco
What a bum
he needs to play for the Dodgers
And to think we were up 13 in this game....
Oh well, man up and beat OSU on saturday
GO BRUINS!!!
by moutekicksboute on Jan 28, 2010 9:56 PM PST reply actions
Come on guys, it wasn't all rago
…
Hell, who am i kidding, of course it was
yeah we need a real PG
too bad there are none on the roster
One step forward . . . two steps back.
Free throws finally bit us in the a$$. UCLA’s team free throw shooting percentage is the same as Dwight Howard’s. 61%
free throws and rebounding yet again...
and nestor has more than enough rago material to last until next year…(if he didn’t already)
Across The Face
this was
just ridiculous. So many chances missed and Oregon scrubs rose to the occasion.
Simple math
We’d get looks, we’d miss the shots….
They’d get the looks, they made the shots in the stretch.
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
wow
an epic fail on so many levels.
at least we had dragos defense to make up for … oh wait…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 28, 2010 9:58 PM PST reply actions
Do you all realize
that after Mustafa made that great steal and tip play, he never came back in the game. I guess he wasn’t good enough
howland just doesn't trust anyone but his starters at the end of any game
even if they’re all running on empty
Brightside: Honeycutt looked effing sick, and that was the last game played at that POS COURT
by inhowlandwetrust on Jan 28, 2010 9:58 PM PST reply actions
+1
He gets better every week. Showing more confidence.
by LongtimeBru on Jan 28, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Not all on Drago
in fact he kept us in the OT until he missed the FT.
Kept us in until he fell off that last OU 3
My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing $C.
really vanman, how much money he gave you?
all the Ore points made in the beginning of OT was cuz of drago’s defficiency
He kept us in for the first half, but I think he essentially checked out in the 2nd
Lee on the other hand, IDK what he was thinking.
Dragovic
1) Gives up a 3 in the corner (OK fine, but 3 pts)
2) Gives up a 3 on the wing by tripping over his own feet (3 pts)
3) Misses a box out (2 pts)
4) Misses a driving layup (2 pts)
5) Misses the front end of a 1 & 1
FAIL
UCLA Football, please make the switch to black cleats
thanks
please provide similar analysis for other players for comparison
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Cut that nonsense out
and stop living in denial. how can he provide blow by blow on other guys considering they specifically went after him time after time as the obvious f*king missing link in our D. Your defense of Rago is sometimes as obnoxious as Dorrelistas from back in the day. And it often appears you are just doing it to stir up needless arguments when it’s pretty clear to everyone who has a pair of eyes that this guy can’t play D. So chill out and back off.
dude
the game I just watched was characterized mostly by our complete lack of point guard play; along with typically shoddy defense by Dragovic very slightly offset by his scoring; and a complete inability of our team to rebound the ball. There is plenty of blame to go around.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
but I take your point
I’m done for at least tonight.
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
I completely agree with you
That there is plenty of blame to go around. It starts at the top with Howland. However, it’s just silly to even attempt defense of Rago at the same time.
well at least he is a great character guy...
oh wait, never mind.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
No brightside....
Drago = FAIL….Roll, Lee, Keefe, Drago…2 steps forward, 5 steps back…this team is impossible to watch…missed free throws, no effort on the zone, no blocking out while playing zone D which means you usually already have your players closer to the rim….
When is senior day??
Dude
Are we not going to finish .500?
by hongerelli on Jan 28, 2010 10:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bruin Basketball Haiku
Drago Has No D
Honeycutt the only player
Wait Until Next Year
UCLA Football, please make the switch to black cleats
our short term loss is our long term gain?
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
maybe, maybe it's all cbh's long term scheme
a) have a fall guy w/ drago so we won’t get fired
b) keep his top secrets secret with stover, moser and lane
c) so when our slow seniors graduate we can come out firing
malcolm lee couldve made this game a lot easier at the offensive end
if he wouldve tried to penetrate the zone at any point in the game. swinging the ball around for 30 seconds and chucking up a desperation 3 isn’t good offense unless you ask the lizard. the fact that ben howland didn’t recognize or address this is troubling as was mustafa good hustle play being rewarded with the pine
Across The Face
with all due respect
MAH isn’t going to penetrate anything
by britishbruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
+1,000,000
Dribble penetration anyone? Drive and kick?
by orlandobruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
only 2 ben ball warriors showed the ability to dribble penetrate
1. farmar
2. DC
end of list, kinda pathetic to have only 2 guys who can dribble drive throughout his reign
he was open court player
we was never able to break down D on half court, his role on that team was to move w/o the ball
Rebounding.
UCLA got killed on the boards again. Some have suggested, including Donnie Mac, that it is because in the zone defense the players cannot locate the opponent and put a body on him when the ball is in the air.
I think part of what kills us on the boards is the fact that we NEVER, repeat, NEVER push the ball on offense after we get a defensive rebound. As such, our opponents know that they can send extra guys to the glass and, even if they do not get the ball, we will not push the ball and exercise a numbers advantage to get an easy score.
An analogy is throwing the ball deep in football. If you never throw deep, defenses will stack the box. Similarly, if we never push the ball (throw deep), whether we have numbers or not, teams will send their guards and guys like E.J. Singler to get rebounds (stack the box).
Even if UCLA opened up the offense a bit and tried to push the ball on offense even a few times a game (even if they failed in those attempts), I think that this would keep the other team honest, make them keep their guards back outside the free throw line and not rebounding, and would help our rebounding game overall. It would be worth it in the long run. Right now, opposing coaches know that they can throw the kitchen sink at the glass and they will not get burned on the break.
I miss K Love and his outlet passes.
The part about pushing the ball
THAAAAAAANK YOU!
How many times did Nikky pull the board down to look how cool he was instead of looking for a downcourt opportunity? GYAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!
UCLA Football, please make the switch to black cleats
good thoughts and probably true
- but no one on the team and outlet pass
- no on on the team knows how to run fast break
i am curious
were we a good rebounding team in man to man? i don’t have the stats but I don’t remember that being the case….
But you are right, if teams know you favor a slow pace, like CBH does (look up the kenpom stats if you doubt this) then they will keep guys around to board because they know you aren’t gonna speed up the game. Good insight.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
however boxing out would solve all the problems
oh wait….. we don’t
drago have no idea even what a box out is
reeves try to but is a little too short
TH doesn’t box out but is quick enough to snatch it out of the air when he is around the area
roll….
ML….. standing somewhere waiting for an outlet pass?
FYI, just checked the box score.
Of Oregon’s 11 offensive boards, 6 were by guards or E. J. Singler (the latter of which plays small forward but is hardly cut from the board crasher cloth). Singler had a game changing tip in in OT.
by orlandobruin on Jan 28, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
He is just not a point guard
He is an ok 2 guard with low basketball IQ. The only fundamentally sound pg on this team is a walkon who was benched after making a spectacular play in the second half. I am so disgusted and I don’t even know why I care so much.
I am going to sleep. I think Ryan will do the post game thread and will prolly be lot more charitable to Rago. I am going to take it out on him and Howland in the am.
live by the drago..
.. die by the drago
Drago did however show up to grab a couple offensive rebounds I suppose. Makes 3s early.. bricks 3s for 14 mins… doesn’t hustle back and gives armstead easy assts.. gets a couple of board off miss fts.. doesn’t overplay a shooter with time winding down on the clock.. makes a nice catch on a pass to lay one in.. with 10 seconds left he’s looking for a quick 2 , only to get fouled and miss the front end.. Drago giveth and Drago taketh away.
Most of the game when TH is not rebounding on defense and RN on offense then no one is rebounding. TH will be great when he figures out when to attack and when not to attack on offense.
Our attacking the zone blew chunks after about the 10 minute mark. We lacked aggression. On one hand we did a good job not wasting the dribble, on the other hand we were content to pass it around the perimeter. We need flashers to the free throw line constantly to break down the defense (not Keefe there, because you need a player that is a threat to make a basket) Sometimes we figured out how to get it to RN in there, but we need to figure that out earlier in a clock and he needs to learn to recognize when and if to work it back out. You can destroy the zone if you get it into capable hands in the paint and we failed miserably on way to many possessions by turning into the long ball shooting team.
It is mischaracterized that you shoot teams out of a zone.. our zone has been successful for exactly that reason.. teams settle for the long ball. You beat a zone by breaking it down on the interior getting everyone out of position that yields open shots from a variety of areas. That out of position consequently allows you to gain offensive rebounding possibilities. If you just settle for the long ball it is easy to defensive rebound.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 28, 2010 10:11 PM PST reply actions
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