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This just in: USC basketball imposes self-infractions on itself, including forfeiting all wins during the 2007-2008 season as a result of an internal investigation regarding OJ Mayo and interactions with Rodney Gulliory. Included is a ban on postseason play this year INCLUDING the PAC-10 tournament.

So much for the "resurgence" of USC basketball. Even when they may have a chance in the PAC-10, they get shot in the foot.

Of course, no action taken on the football team.

Read the story Trojan press release/talking points here.

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Sacrificing the basketball team to protect Heritage Hall (and Petey)

Not to say that sanctions are not deserved for the dealings of Floyd/Mayo/Guillory, but does anyone actually believe that Sc would be doing this if not for the prospect of a ‘lack of institutional control’ investigation by the NCAA (as unlikely as that body is to actually do anything)?

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by Patroclus on Jan 3, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Yep

Whatever. It’s JustSC hoops. No one will care.

by Nestor on Jan 3, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

What a joke!

$C is sacrificing its basketball program to protect its football program.

And wow, they’re giving up some BB wins, one BB scholarship and a few BB recruiting days for all the years of Pete’s cheating.

It won’t wash. Let’s see them vacate all of the games that Bush played. Bush got paid a whole lot more than OJ.

by Chicago Bruin on Jan 3, 2010 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

I felt it was a pre-emptive move.

USC is pretty good this year in basketball. By taking punitive action now while they are still building the foundation of the Kevin O’Neill era, they are better prepared to reap the benefits a year or two down the line.

And, Yeah. I doubt they or the NCAA or the Pac 10 will ever do anything about the Football program’s history of wrong doing.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jan 3, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

$C bball is a sacrificial lamb

And that really is such a shame. I feel that the actions are too harsh, and indeed, as other posters have said above, I feel that they have overcompensated by sanctioning the bball team rather than punishing each team equally. I especially feel bad for players with their last year of eligibility, such as Mike Gerrity who just came along. Just because I don’t like $C, doesn’t mean I want to completely demolish their competitive spirit.

I would’ve taken away more scholies, and let them play in the post season…give them a chance! Especially in this weak Pac-10.

Question now is, will they continue their fight to make a statement? Or, do the opposite.
Tell you one thing, I’m worried about U$C basketball in the future, especially if they take this in stride and complete this season close to the top of the Pac-10.

by PopnFried on Jan 3, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

I respectfully disagree.

These self-imposed “sanctions” are not harsh enough. Unfortunately, the current BB players will suffer, but they still get their education paid for and get lots of TV time and props if they keep winning.

Sanctions are supposed to punish the institution for not policing itself and alumni for meddling with the amateur status of the student-athletes. And in the case of $C, punishment for the complete lack of institutional control including lying and cheating by the head FB and BB coaches, hiding the truth, inviting agents into the locker rooms, allowing thugs and rapists to run rampant on the football team, and generally impeding any NCAA investigation.

It is crystal clear that $C is not intent on punishing itself at all. They are only trying ot avoid real punishment. Based on the timing of these self-imposed actions with regards to Bush losing his court case and the whole McKnight thing, they propably hear the NCAA train a’ comin.

by Chicago Bruin on Jan 3, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

PeggySue

Weigh in here. We need your insight.

by Chicago Bruin on Jan 3, 2010 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

I See this as Garrett's Last Desperate Act

Perhaps I need to take my rose-colored glasses off, but I think the Lack of Institutional Control hammer is about to fall. The McKnight SUV was the last straw. The only question is whether Garrett, Petey, or both get the axe. I predict one or the other will win the power struggle and throw the other under the bus.

by snorkeldorf on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

Just heard this...

I predict Pete will escape without a scratch, while everyone around him takes the bullets.

GO BRUINS!!!

by bruinchick on Jan 3, 2010 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

DEFCON 1 for the Keychup and Mustard

$C will do anything and everything to save its football legacy. It is the basis of the instiution’s ego and their alumni’s obnoxious arrogance. They will sacrifice BB, Floyd, Mayo and Garrett. Heck, they’ll even admit OJ did it.

But if Carroll is forced out, it will leave a stain forever. They will lose games, PAC-10 Championships, National Championships, and even a beloved Heisman. The $C decision makers are in lockdown DEFCON 1 mode to save football.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if brides have been offered to NCAA officials. Its the $C way!

by Chicago Bruin on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

"I wouldn’t even be surprised if brides have been offered to NCAA officials."

WE HAVE A WINNER! That has to be the answer. There is no possible way that any honest person could fail to find something wrong with just$c* football. Think about the local police in Colombia, who get offered zillions of dollars by the drug lords to look the other way. Their alternative is to accept their zero salary and/or a bullet in the ear, or to take the zillion bucks. There are a few ncaa investigators who have to have taken money. It would be interesting to take a look at any lifestyle changes by those guys over the past few years.

by Fox 71 on Jan 3, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

U$c is wrist-slapping itself

Will it work? Probably. The NCAA can now forget all about Bush and McKnight. The institutional controls are back in place at U$c. Not.

Pathetic, really, but for some reason the NCAA doesn’t want to touch the school of second choice until it is humiliated into doing so.

Bleeding powderkeg blue and gold for 55 years. Go Bruins!

by Digdog on Jan 3, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

That lawyer drafted press release is misleading, contains an untruth, and says nothing concrete about what happened

Here are the relevant parts of the press release: "The University of Southern California today announced that it has implemented self-imposed sanctions on its men’s basketball program for violating NCAA rules. [¶] The sanctions are a result of a University investigation that found NCAA rules violations related to O.J. Mayo, who played for the USC’s men’s basketball team during the 2007-2008 season. [¶] ‘USC takes allegations of NCAA rules violations very seriously. When allegations were made regarding our men’s basketball program we immediately began an investigation and worked closely with the NCAA and the Pac-10 in an attempt to ascertain the truth,’ said USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett. ‘When we’ve done something wrong, we have an obligation to do something about it and that is exactly what we are doing here.’ The press release then identifies the sanctions and basketball Coach Kevin O’Neill’s whining. The press release ends: "Mr. Garrett concluded, "While we recognize there may be additional questions about our announcement today or other alleged NCAA infractions, until the NCAA concludes its inquiries, we cannot make any further comment.’ [¶] A video statement from USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett can be viewed at

The entire statement is at http://uscnews.usc.edu/university/usc_announces_self-imposed_sanctions_on_mens_basketball_team.html

Notice what USC Senior Vice President Dickey (pronounced like the fake turtleneck accoutrement) who is really a former general counsel and supervises the general counsel (his real occupation is concealed in the press release) said about the scandal—nothing. As noted, here is what the press release says Mr. Dickey, who is really a lawyer, said: ‘"We have very high standards for our faculty, athletic department, staff and students,’ said USC Senior Vice President Todd R. Dickey. ‘We expect and demand that everyone associated with the University live up to these standards. Nothing is more important than the integrity.’" Now here is what Mike Garrett, who is charged with living up to "very high standards," has to say: "While we recognize there may be additional questions about our announcement today or other alleged NCAA infractions, until the NCAA concludes its inquiries, we cannot make any further comment."

See the sandbagging disingenuousness of all this. First, Mr. Dickey admits nothing abut the past. The other parts of the press release state the scandal involves O.J. Mayo (who now it can be revealed is named after the sandwich spread not the prison inmate) and Rodney Guillory. But Mr. Dickey doesn’t say what they did. Mr. Dickey’s investigation revealed something but he sure won’t tell us. Most importantly, what did the Head Basketball Coach who was hired by Mr. Garrett, the guy charged with living up to "very high standards," do? Note that the USC lawyers who helped draft the press release made sure Mr. Floyd’s name is nowhere to be found. Mr. Dickey isn’t saying. Second, same thing with Mr. Garrett, the guy charged with living up to "very high standards," he won’t say what happened other than to refuse to comment further. You would think Mr. Garrett, the guy charged with living up to "very high standards," would say something about his former hire. (The USC website announces that Mr. Garrett, the guy charged with living up to "very high standards," has a video statement. I cannot get the link to work now at 4:29 p.m.)

The truth is we don’t know how this will play out. And the sanctions story is at an early stage. As when the Floyd payoff allegations arose (which sure look like they were true—but we all knew they were because we all know Dr. Samples has no control over the athletic department), the story and revelations played out day by day. And today is one more iteration in an on-going scandal. There will be more.

One last thought—this conspiracy of we ain’t talkin’ may fall apart. As has been pointed out several times on this site, every time some U.S.C. lawyer or Mr. Garrett, the guy charged with living up to "very high standards," says, we "cannot" comment further—they are lying. The can talk—they just choose not to do so, which generally means they have something they do not want to talk about; i.e. something to hide. The layers of athletic compliance supervision are all staffed by lawyers and they won’t talk. But this is an issue of making money. The athletic program is part of the profiting making business model of the school. Serious journalists are drawn to stories of money making moguls who cheat and then won’t talk. So far, no serious journalist has made the decision to get to the truth. Hopefully, that will change once journalists realize this is cheating to amass large sums of money and they are being blown off with misleading press releases and a phalanx of stiff arming of lawyers. For those who say it will never happen—you may be right but we’ll see. This level of corruption has a way of eventually collapsing.

by peggysue69 on Jan 3, 2010 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

Garrett's last comment shows he's sweating the "institutional control"

“When we’ve done something wrong, we have an obligation to do something about it and that is exactly what we are doing here.”

by bornagainbruin on Jan 3, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

How about Dr. Samples?

Good point bornagain about the AD perspiring. But what about President Samples? He’s retiring so maybe it doesn’t matter in his view—but it all happened on his watch. Isn’t odd we don’t hear from the person in charge of the institution?

by peggysue69 on Jan 3, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

And I don't see how this is hell freezing over.

they did exactly what we thought they would do….hit the basketball program to show institutional control in an effort to protect the football program.

by bornagainbruin on Jan 3, 2010 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

‘When we’ve done something wrong, we have an obligation to do something about it and that is exactly what we are doing here.’

Did anyone (or will anyone) ever ask Garrett just what exactly it was that they did wrong, and who did it?

by Fox 71 on Jan 3, 2010 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

It would also be interesting to know the chronology of things

When did the “investigation” start?
What facts were uncovered in the “investigation”?
When was each fact learned?

My guess is that the “investigation” started when someone told Garrett that there was a story about Timmeh making the cash payoff. My next guess is that there was no actual investigation into the Timmeh-Mayo affair, but rather was an investigation into what Inspector Clouseau of the ncaa was likely to find. The key date was when the brains of the outfit in Inheritance Hall (and I’m convinced that it’s not Garrett) told Mikey that it was time to throw the basketball program under the bus.

I think the biggest part of the investigation was learning whether facts showing a lack of institutional control could be totally hidden. Once that was deemed to be likely, then it was time to cock the guillotine.

by Fox 71 on Jan 3, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So where does sc "punish" itself?

You know they’ll find some other way to cheat the system while the NCAA “powers that be” show how impotent they are.

A reduction of 1 scholarship? Please… this is the same place that hired a recruit’s father and L’il Romeo and had the players as walk-ons to save themselves from using up a scholarship.

They pride themselves on finding ways to cheat the system while laughing all the way to the bank.

by UCLA4Life on Jan 4, 2010 6:31 AM PST reply actions  

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