Hoops Gameday Roundup: The Dreadful Bruin Basketball Season Continues In Corvallis
I wish I didn't have to think about UCLA basketball for rest of the season. For the first time in years I am finding UCLA basketball unwatchable and boring. Yet I can't help myself from caring about it. It's the same feeling that made me watch every single root-canal during the dark days of CHP. Of course I am not comparing Ben Howland to that poser in any way in terms of their coaching acumen. However, I am certainly starting to feel the same sense of utter apathy when it comes to UCLA hoops.
All right I will start with some exciting news. Our prolific point guard is making his return to the lineup. This means a little breather for some starters in the rotation:
"I expect to play him some minutes, but he’ll come off the bench behind Mustafa (Abdul-Hamid)," UCLA coach Ben Howland said Friday. "With both those guys, and I have confidence in both of them. I think we can shorten the minutes a little bit for Mike, Malcolm and Honeycutt, which should be good for us."
Roll logged 44 minutes in Thursday night’s 71-66 overtime loss to Oregon. Honeycutt played 40 minutes, and Lee 37.
Howland has been trying to find a way to get his regular players fewer minutes, but he hasn’t had a chance to do it since Anderson went down with a hip flexor.
Really? Howland can't find anyone on his roster that could cut down the minutes just a bit (even by 5-10 mintues) of superstars such as Ragovic. LOLOL. Okay.
Anyway, Anderson's return is all the excitement I can muster up for this pm, as the Bruins are going to take on probably the least exciting (but a well coached) basketball team in Oregon State this evening. Oregon State will be licking their chops after a tough win over Southern Cal. Even though the Bruins unquestionably have the better talent (enough to pull together at least a winning season) and matchup well against the Beavers, this will be their best chance to beat the Bruins in a long time. So they are going to be a little fired up.
Facing the Beavers will mean having a way to figure out their 1-3-1 zone and their slow and deliberate Princeton offense. Speaking of handling the zone, Howland had this to say about his starting pointguard Malcolm Lee:
"I think it helps him a lot [to play point]," Howland said when asked if he recruited Lee to be a point guard. "Is he a natural? Russell Westbrook wasn't a natural to begin with. He is in the NBA now, starting at the point."
Lee was not available to talk to the media about his development as a point guard, but Howland's take was that Lee still had to "learn to keep the ball low and keep himself low, because he's going against guys, like last night, who are 5-6 and 6 foot."
Lee did have six assists in the game and turned the ball over only twice. He had six turnovers against Washington State last Saturday.
Howland also had some hilarious comments about the need for our team to show patience against Oregon State after what transpired on Thursday night:
"We saw how the lead dissipated. A bad foul on a three, a couple quick shots," Howland said. "In basketball it's always about time and score. We're up 29-20 and we jack up a shot with 25 seconds left on the shot clock with a guy in our face.
"We lost a little bit of the focus in what we were doing to get good shots."
Early on, the Bruins were mixing it inside and outside and working against the Ducks' zone defense by getting the ball into the lane and then passing it back out. Oregon seemingly flipped a switch, though, frustrated UCLA into rushed shots and threw a wrench into the Bruins offense.
Uhm coach that is pretty good analysis but it'd be nice if you actually did something to hold the guys accountable who were jacking up those shots to take us out of the game. Otherwise, as usual these post game reflections ring hollow and appear utterly pointless. Certainly given the track record this season, it doesn't project any sense of confidence that the team will actually do something to address those issues because Howland keeps going back to same maddeningly frustrating rotation over and over again.
Meanwhile, on the other hand it is going to be interesting if the Bruins try to defend the Beavers with a 2-3 defense. AndyPanda from BuildingTheDam blogged this in recap post following the victory over the Trojans:
Oregon St. managed to make USC play the game in their style. Much of the game, it was necessary to check the jerseys to determine which team was which. The Trojans' 2-3 zone defense allowed Oregon St. to play at their preferred pace, though, and USC struggled to solve the Beavers' defense all night long. And OSU, being much more familiar with the style of play, was much the better at it that the Trojans, normally more a man-to-man, up and down the floor type of team.
Hmm. I imagine Coach Robinson has taken a pretty good look at how Cal and Oregon shredded our 2-3 with constant attacks on you know who. I am expecting more of the same all afternoon long as we know that Howland is not going to make any in-game adjustments to fix that situation (desperately hoping for his Matt Barkley to go off from the 3 point line).
As far as Oregon State is concerned their best player is Calvin Hayes. I imagine the Bruins are going to key on him in attempts to bottle him up. Haynes is the only decent 3 point shooter in their lineup as he is scoring at 45% clip from behind the arc. Other than him, they don't have much going on in the roster. As mentioned above, this is a game Bruins should be able to win on the road because we have more talent on our roster. However, we also have a team the core of which is rotten with players who are mentally soft, defensively challenged characters with low basketball IQ. Freshmen players like Nelson and Honeycutt will be able to do only so much.
Perhaps they will able to come through a get a win today to get a split on this road trip. However, it is not going to mean much considering they might not win another game on the road rest of this Pac-10 season and struggle to get splits at Pauley. As I said, I wish the season ended and we could finally look forward to a team with the current group of seniors (then again it won't be that great considering the terrible job the staff has done in getting the players ready with meaningful when they will need to step up next season).
The game thread will go up about half an hour before tipoff scheduled for 4:30 pm PST. I am sorry I couldn't make this hoops game day roundup all feel good and peachy. If you need some sunshine re. our team today, use the fanpost feature to stir up your own koolaid cocktail.
GO BRUINS.
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Every time we write them off
They manage a win to keep us interested. I predict a win today. We can win or lose any game in conference. I know its frustrating, but just enjoy the uncertainty of outcome in every game. And wouldn’t it be sweet to have a victory at Galen over SUC and perhaps another one in the Pac 10 tournament. There is still a lot to look for from this team, and a lot to enjoy. Keep the faith. (I know they are mediocre, but we can love em anyway. Ok not Drago, but the rest.) Go Bruins.
FWIW
I appreciate your enthusiasm for our hoops team. I mean that.
As I said above, I wish I could be so sunny about our team but just can’t bring myself to it given what I have seen this season without being emotionally and intellectually insincere.
Howland should find
a player or two to give Drago a “breather” for roughly 40 minutes.
I agree with 75Nat
just enjoy the games. They have not been boring, just frustrating (other then the SC loss which was truly pathetic). A very young team in a difficult transition year. Now is when true lifelong fans must hang in there (critical commentary ok if well thought and balanced). Set small goals, such as: Can we win for the 2nd time on a Saturday?
I am glad
You were “enjoying” Arizona, Stanford, Cal State Fullerton, Portland, Long Beach State. And if you want to question our loyalty to UCLA, you will have to do that somewhere else. I will not give you that warning again. Thanks.
Fan
Die hard means driving to Seattle non-stop for 20 hours with friends to catch the final four in ‘95. It does not mean having to watch bad basketball for 40 minutes. Same reason I can’t watch the Lakers play this season when they just show up for 5-10 minutes a game. If the passion and energy aren’t there, it does feel like torture.
Some losing teams are fun to watch, they play above and beyond their respective talent levels. To keep it short, this years team, not so much. I’m surprised Nestor hasn’t thrown his computer out the window with some of this years gems….
I think the point of 'die hard'
is that you keep watching your team when good or bad, whether you are enjoying it or being tortured by it; when ‘fairweather’ fans desert a team, the diehards are left. That’s why Nestor IS a die hard fan.
Driving to watch your team in a Final Four and not watching your Lakers when they are bad doesn’t seem to be the meaning of diehard to me. Diehards keep watching the team against their better interest. And they feel the pain. People who stop watching the team are ‘die easy’; people who can watch the current product without feeling any pain aren’t die hard either, they are people who are blessed with an ability to make themselves happy. Nestor – and I’m presuming the other moderators too , though the evidence is somewhat less plentiful – are diehards. That’s why you get a string of negative commentary in their posts, rather than endless sunshine – or no commentary at all.
by britishbruin on Jan 30, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't quite agree
There are different kinds of bad.
There is bad due to a shortage of talent, some of which applies to this team, certainly. Then there is bad due to dumb plays, careless plays and lack of intellectual effort. That is not watchable.
And on this team, it’s about 75% of the latter. I don’t enjoy watching, it doesn’t mean I don’t support them. Watching or not watching on TV is pretty insignificant to the team in terms of support anyway.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
I can't help watching
I just can’t explain why. Seriously. How did I watch all those debacles under CTS and CHP. I really can’t explain staying up till 2 am to watch that poser in Pauley pretending to be a head coach.
FWIW I think Howland will turn this around eventually. In the meantime I have to be honest in offering my observations on this team. If something is infuriating and doesn’t make sense we have to say it and discuss it. We can’t be in denial.
I don't blame you
In the Lavinoma days, you just hoped the kids would win despite the Lizard.
Just enjoy those late night games! It all changes when you have a kid! I barely have time to write comments here and there now…
I approach every game with the same feeling of impending doom. Every game, I just have a feeling we are going to lose. And yet, I find myself checking the score because I still have a ray of hope somewhere in my Bruin body. I can’t help it.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
lol
Tyler Blez, who founded AsNation/SBNation told me somehow it’s possible to keep doing this even with little people around. Guess I will find out the answer in next couple of years. Meanwhile, may be someone needs to step around here even more prominently just so he or she can be ready to keep the BN going! :-)
no, we agree
it is definitely easier to watch a bad team that you feel is trying hard, or putting in intellectual effort, or doesn’t have players on the court who have embarrassed the school with behavior unbefitting a Bruin. Likewise there are different degrees of masochism involved in supporting a team.
by britishbruin on Jan 30, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Don't enjoy the blowout losses
The SC was the most painful loss I can remember. To be blown out by a mediocre Trojan team was something I thought would never happen. Losing to CSUF and LBState and to be blown out by Portland, also unthinkable. That is why the team’s resurgence to decency during the Pac-10 is a pleasant surprise. I thought they would win maybe two games in conference at the beginning of the season. The win over Cal was outstanding. MAH game winner was orgasmic. The team is getting better in fits and starts. Unfortunately, it reverted to mediocre for the entire second half against Oregon. But wasn’t the first 15 minutes of play a delight to behold? What could be was shown there. TH is coming on. I’m enthusiastic about watching the beginnings of the next big bruin star. ML and RN can be pieces in something very good, if not extraordinary. A year like this makes us appreciate the run we’ve had and we’ll appreciate it when it returns. In the Wooden era (my era) if we didn’t win by 20, the team underachieved. I love my team. Go Bruins!
"set small goals"
Such lofty aspirations for a UCLA team…whatever helps you sleep at night.
I for one have stopped watching because, literally, I am too pissed to sleep at night. Not that I get much sleep anyway with my 7 month old, but still.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
It's easier to keep my hopes up
since most of the games are on FS Prime which is a premium station on Directv which I refuse to pay for. So I don’t have to witness the pain.
Go Bruins!
And for the record, I’m not questioning anybody’s loyalty. Perhaps we should take a blood oath have some sort of initiation ritual.
isn't the 1-3-1 zone
what Beilein’s WVU used to run? Gave us fits twice, with significantly more talented squads. CBH’s offense not known to adapt well to this.
If this turns into another ‘pass it around the perimeter for 30 seconds, last one holding the ball take a shot’ fest, it’s going to be worse than boring. If we can find ways to move people around and get some good looks inside… then I like our chances better. But I’m not all that hopeful.
Michelle Obama's brother
At a family reunion maybe 10-15 years ago, the Beav’s future coach meets his sister’s main squeeze at some family reunion. The Beav’s future coach asks, “What do you want to do?” So this low level Illinois politician-community organizer-lawyer says, ""I want to be President." The Beav’s future coach, concerned about how his family would react to such an off the wall aspiration by his sister’s suitor, says, “Don’t be telling anybody around here about that. Okay.”
The Beav’s coach told that story last year during a FSN interview. I think they strongly resemble each other and he speaks about his sister with real love and respect. The are obviously brother and sister.
Enough of this touching family nonsense. Let’s get back on topic. Here’s to today being the low point of his coaching career.
by peggysue69 on Jan 30, 2010 1:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry -- I couldn't resist.
This is a running joke from the game day threads with OSU last year.
The announcers never stopped mentioning it.
I think we should do an over/under on it.
sjh
Good Idea
It will give us something fun to listen for in case the game goes south (though I think we will win). Hmmm, Over/under at 9? What do you guys think?
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
Over/under what?
I thought the over/under you were fishing for was the number of times the announcers would casually bring up the fact that the Beave’s coach was Michelle Obama’s sibling. The thread had deteriorated into people like me meandering materially off topic about family values so that’s I thought what you were talking about.
Last year the over/under for references to the First Lady would have been double digits. This year with the President’s approval rating down and the Beavs playing worse that we do, I would put it at 2.5 but only to stimulate wagering interest.
by peggysue69 on Jan 30, 2010 4:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That actually should go in the BN lexicon thread...
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Agony
Most Bruins I talk to would not say the away games are boring—the phrase I hear most is agony. Unmitigated agony. A lot of people stand up and pace, sometimes from room to room, wanting to win but pained that it doesn’t happen enough or by the hoped for margins of victory. One or two alums have said to me our play can be tedious, i.e boring. But the overall television experience hurts most people I talk to.
That’s not a commentary on those calling play-by-play—its a commentary on the team’s failure to perform.
That being said, I’m not giving up. There’s a lot of basketball to be played and we have best coach in the conference.
Go Bruins!
by peggysue69 on Jan 30, 2010 1:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions

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