BN 101: An Overview Of Posting And Commenting

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We have been meaning to put something like this for a while. It has been really cool to see this community grow and explode into something we never quiet imagined when we got started more than four years ago. So far we have been really fortunate to have incredible contributors who have helped us put together our corner in the internets which is devoted to what we believe is the greatest athletic program in the country. Now that folks here are taken it upon themselves to put together even a "The Bruins Nation Lexicon," thought this would be the perfect time to put something up like this that would also go along with the rules of this community.

Given the growth of this community we have seen increased participation via all facets offered up by the SBN platform. That is great. However, at the same time the increased participation has often led to duplicate posts (we see this a lot during crazy times like the one when we were all wrapped in Norm Chow drama). So I reached out to Al Yellon from Bleed Cubbie Blue (SBN's Chicago Cubs blog, which IMHO is one of the very best team blogs online) and asked him I could customize his post giving much more detail about this site, how to post here, what constitutes good formatting, etc., especially with the first spring training game tomorrow, which will once again ramp up participation here.

So thanks to Al over at BCB, and other SBN colleagues at South Side Sox, Lookout Landing and Red Reporter, those outstanding guides are responsible for what you see here. I tinkered it to adapt to our community and to what have become the norms here.

Many of you have been around since BN since it was created in June 2005 and went through The Great Migration to the new platform last year. For those of you who are new, or still not quite acclimated to the system, this post is meant to be a guide to new members and a refresher course for power users. First, for new BN'ers, take a look at the basic SB*Nation Welcome Guide. After that, read below for a more in-depth guide and specific expectations for Bruins Nation.

I say this a lot. So please read this carefully.  BN is NOT a message board. It isn't a talk radio call-in show. It is not a texting platform for your cellphones. The headline at the top of the page reads "Blog Of The Bruins, By The Bruins, For The Bruins", and that's the most concise way we can describe this site.  BN itself is a blog, one which has built a community feel to it with exclusive emphasis on featuring unabashed Bruin partisan view over the last 4 years. And unlike some blogs or online sports sites that talk at you, BN offers FanPosts and FanShots where you can drive the conversation.

Follow me after the jump for an extended guide into FanPosts, FanShots and commenting.

FanShots

FanShots are quick posts, links, images or videos from around the internet -- it's not just for photos, as at least one person here mentioned to me; there are several different types of things you can put in a FanShot.

When Should You Post a FanShot?

  • Whenever you find a link, a quote, a video, a photo, around the internet that you think your fellow BN'ers will enjoy.
  • When you don't have any commentary to add other than your link, video, photo or quote.
  • When you can't meet the 75 word minimum for a FanPost

How Do You Post a FanShot?

1. Click "New FanShot" -- Seems simple, right? While logged in, visit any page of BCB and click the handy "New FanShot" button. Enter the link or pic URL in the proper place.

2. Use the FanShot Bookmarklet -- Clicking and dragging the "Share on SB*Nation" button (which you can find here at the top of the FanShot section), right underneath the top ad bar; just click "FANSHOTS" on the front page to get there) to your bookmarks bar (the area under your address bar in your browser) will allow you to post to BCB quickly and easily while browsing the internet.

Once you have a "Share on SB*Nation" button in your browser, you have one-click posting of FanShots at your fingertips. Clicking the button will bring up a dialog box that looks like this:

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Just select the type of FanShot you wish to post, apply the proper tags (more later) and hit publish (that "Front Page" check box is for me as the site admin, to put it on the front page if I choose -- you've seen the blue box posts on the front page; those are FanShots that I've posted).

FanPosts

FanPosts are just like front page stories, except they're written by you, the BN reader. You can help keep the best FanPosts on the list longer by recommending them using the "Rec" link at the bottom of the post. Five recommendations puts a FanPost on the rec list.

What makes a good FanPost?

  • Make It Substantial. When I say "substantial", I don't mean it has to be a dissertation or manifesto. But if you see the dreaded 75 word warning, it's either time to put some more thought into your FanPost or start over. If your post contains something like this:
    words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words

    ... then it's probably better as a FanShot.

  • Make It Relevant. Your FanPost should relate to UCLA or UCLA athletics in some way. If you want to talk about other sports teams there are sites on SB*Nation for that. Of course you are more than welcome to write about other sports teams if there is an angle that is specific to the UCLA community. For example, more than ok to bring up your pro teams if it has former UCLA alums or has issues that we have experienced while following our teams at UCLA.

    If you want to do nothing more than post a link to your site, you're probably a spammer, and should expect your FanPost to be swiftly removed. If all you want to do is post a link to a news story or other online article or page, try a FanShot. However, we have made exceptions for BN members who have started their own blog or websites and whenever applicable we have no problem with members of BN community sharing links from their blog or websites with information germane to ongoing topics of discussion on BN.

    Don't really have a lot of problem with Off-Topic FanPosting, particularly during the offseason. But if you're new and if you haven't made a FanPost before, your FanPost on an issue that has nothing to do with UCLA athletics probably isn't going to be received very well. If you do make an Off-Topic post (meaning, specifically, that it is not related to UCLA), please put OT: in front of your post.

    Off-topic conversations happen all the time at BN. In some threads, half the comments wind up being off-topic. Some other SB*Nation sites have a Daily Link Dump FanPost or some other form of daily off-topic conversation. I'm not against starting something like that on BN, but nobody has taken the lead. If anyone would like to do that -- it would involve finding 10 or 15 relevant links each morning and making a FanPost -- feel free to do so.

  • Make It Timely. This is something I feel very strongly about. If the link you're posting is a day or two old, chances are it's been posted once or twice before either in the comments or FanShots (more later). Check to see if it's been posted before. Please use the search function (located at the upper right of the front page) to see if your topic has been covered in the last few days. If it has, your thoughts on that topic can and should be posted as a comment on the original post.

    If you do have some breaking news, post away. Even though I try, there's no way I can be the first to hear/read/see every piece of breaking Bruins news. That's where you can help. See above, though; if there's a commitment to UCLA hoops or football or the latest scandal that has hit the clowns across town, you think that you are absolutely, positively the first one to hear about it, please take a look at the post list first; someone else may have beat you to it.

  • Make It Coherent. You are much more likely to get someone to read your post if you follow some very simple rules:

    ● Use proper spelling. You're not sending a text message. There's no need 4 U 2 use "time saving" abbreviations which only lessen the value of your post. It's like writing a position paper in crayon.

    ● Use punctuation. You wouldn't stand up and attempt to give a speech in one breath, and you shouldn't try to make your FanPost one big sentence that never ends.

    ● Use multiple paragraphs. There is something about reading text on the internet that makes reading a large block of text unpleasant and occasionally difficult. The ENTER key can be your friend in comments. In posts, use the "P" button to make paragraphs; highlight the text you want in a paragraph and hit "P"; it will put the proper opening and closing tags there.

    ● Use proper formatting. You'd be amazed how much better your piece will be received if it's formatted properly. If I'm greeted by a wall of text in your FanPost, I'm probably not going to make it all the way through. Break it up. Make it more than one paragraph. Use the 'B' and 'I' buttons for bold and italic text, respectively.

The tech team at SB*Nation has built a powerful WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor. The best way I can explain is that you should take time to browse over the icons to find out how they work. This is something I have self-taught muself over the years, and I think it's something you all can pick it up if you are willing to be patient. However, if you know how to format using Microsoft Word, you can make a perfectly formatted FanPost here at BN.

● Start by opening Word.
● Write your post completely in Word, making all your formatting adjustments there.
● Highlight and Copy your work.
● Click New FanPost
● Click the "Paste From Word" icon (upper right icon in the WYSIWYG editor)
● Paste your content into the dialog box.

Give it a Descriptive Headline -- "Question" may, in fact, be what you are posting, a question you want us to consider; but that doesn't exactly inform us what the topic is about. Your headline should be tight, concise, and informative, above all else, with bonus points for creativity.

Examples:

Poor Headline: 'Iolani School defensive tackle Sealii Epenesa said he has made a verbal commitment to play football for UCLA next season. (this is an actual FanPost headline from this weekend)
Good Headline:[Updated] Hawaii DT Sealii Epenesa (Iolani) Commits To UCLA

Poor Headline: Rick Reilly Giving Us Some Love (this is an actual FanPost headline from yesterday and a link that was already shared in the fanshots section)
Good Headline: tWWL's Reilly Giving UCLA Football Some Love

Poor Headline: We Aren't Family ... (this is an actual FanPost headline from today)
Good Headline: We Aren't Family: Lamey's Brother In Law Not Happy With ... Lame

My apologies to those who I picked on. :-) Just trying to give you guys some guidance on what we are striving for here on BN. Stylistically, I have chosen to have all my headlines begin each word with a capital letter. You don't have to do that, but if you do, you'll match the site style and -- well, it'd make the place look even better.

Tagging

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To the right of the text area in FanShots and at the bottom of FanPosts you'll find the area for tagging your posts, as shown in the illustration above. Tagging is important because it helps your content show up in searches and in dynamically-rendered content areas, such as on a player page or in the new "More from Bruins Nation" box at the bottom of each post. It helps increase your post's exposure.

Tagging is simple. Just type the topics of your post into the area cleverly labeled "tags." Use commas to separate tags, as shown above. If you type a tag that's already been used at BN, it'll begin to autocomplete.

Players and Teams have their own dedicated area, which will help link your posts to the proper Player and Team Pages. These fields also auto complete, just begin typing the player's name and it should fill in, as shown above; I typed "Reeves Nels" and Reeve Nelson's name appeared. When this happens, just click on the name and it'll stick with the post.

If you want to have a poll with your post -- click "Attach Poll". The options that come up are self-explanatory; just remember to save your poll when you're done. The "Attach Event" option allows you to tie your post to a specific game. Clicking the "Attach Event" button will bring up a box that lists the Bruins' past and future games -- click the drop-down box to select "completed", "upcoming" or "in progress". Clicking the Add button will make sure you post appears on the page for that specific game.

Commenting

The basic layout of BN is pretty simple: three colums, with links to various items on the left and and right sides and the primary site content down the middle. In the middle will be news items, Game Threads, game recaps, and other fun stuff.

One thing you may find in an article on the front page is a link that says "Continue reading this post" at the end. Be sure to click that to get to the remainder of the post (as you did with this one). If that link is not there, just click the "Comments" link to start reading the comments.

Navigating Comments

Right before the actual comments, you'll see this:

Comment options

Display lets you change the view of the comments from Expanded (subjects and text) to Collapsed (just subjects are visible).

Checking the Auto-refresh box will toggle on and off the auto-refresh feature in the comments section. When checked on, new comments added to the thread will magically appear with a little note popping up in the corner with the name of the poster who made the latest comment.

Below those two boxes you'll see keyboard commands for navigating a thread. They work as follows:

  • c - using the c key will take you to the first unread comment in the thread. This key does not mark a comment as read. Unread comments show up highlighted in light yellow.
  • x - using the x key will mark the current comment with focus as read. This is how I typically navigate the comments, using c and x in tandem.
  • z - the z key will combine the actions of c and x. One note of caution: often, if a new comment is added above the comment currently with focus (the one you're on), using z or x will actually mark that comment as read before you've read it. I suggest that whenever you see a new comment box pop up in the corner, pushing the c-button before hitting z or x to make sure you don't mark comments above your current point as read.
  • r - to reply to the current comment with focus, simply press the r key and a reply box will appear. Please try to use the r key (or click "reply") when you are responding to a specific comment; this helps keep a conversation properly threaded.

Reading Comments

When you get into the comments section, you'll see:

The subject line - the bolded area is the subject line. Clicking the subject will collapse the text below it down; click a second time to bring the text back.

Username/avatar - you can click the commenter's username or their avatar on the far right of the screen and it will take you to that person's SB*Nation profile page.

Date/time - after the username is the date/time of the comment. This is also where you will find a link for that specific comment. If you want to refer to a comment in another place, copy the link from the date of the comment and use that URL for your reference.

up - the up link only appears for comments that are a reply to another comment. Clicking up will take you to the "parent" comment to which the current comment is a reply. This is particularly useful in a long thread with many replies to a single comment.

reply - use this link to reply to that comment. Your response will be indented one level and put below the comment you reply to in order based on when responses happened.

actions - this is a special link that allows you to recommend or flag a post. When you click actions, two more links should become visible, labeled Flag and Rec:

The Flag link should be used if you find something offensive or if the commenter is being a troll or posting spam. I hope it won't be necessary to use this button too much. If you Flag a comment, nothing will be visible to you or others, but I will see it in red.

The Rec link allows you to recognize a post that you find particularly informative, useful or that you think others would like to see. At the end of the commenter's line, you'll see a rec count (e.g. 2 Recs). If a comment gets three recommendations, it will turn green and get a big asterisk (not steroid-induced) in front of it.

Posting Comments

When it comes time for you to finally say something within a thread, you can do so via the comment box. This box is the bottom of every thread, or if you'd like to respond to a specific comment, it will magically appear when you click the reply link. As noted above, it would really help if you'd click the "reply" link if you are replying to a specific comment; this will help organize the comments in each post by thread and show each "conversation" as it develops.

Posting Images, Videos And Links In Threads

If you want to post a link in a thread, don't just copy/paste the link into the posting box. Instead, first highlight the text you want to be linkable, and then click the icon at the top of the box that looks like a link. Doing that will call up a dialogue box that looks like this:

Put links here!

Then, copy/paste the URL into the box. If, say, you have highlighted text that says "Click here to go to ucla.edu", and then enter "http://www.ucla.edu" into the dialogue box, you will get a clickable link that looks like this (don't put the quote marks in the box or your highlighted text):

Click here to go to UCLA Athletics' Official Site

NOTE! Please check the "Open in new window" check box, so that your links don't navigate away from your post.

For videos, if you find a YouTube video that you want to post in a thread or post (as opposed to a FanShot, where you can post it directly, using the Video tab), find the EMBED code on the YouTube page. It should look something like this:


Paste the above code into your post and you'll get the following video:

About posting images, I know that many of you already post images in posts and game threads. Some of these are UCLA-related, of players, and some aren't. Images can greatly enhance your post and add to the information and/or enjoyment that others get. I ask only that you follow a few simple rules:

Keep images small. When I say "small" I don't necessarily mean the physical size of the image (although smaller is generally better); I mean the file size of the image you are posting. Large file size images can slow down threads, especially game threads. I ask for people to keep images in game threads to a minimum.

Keep images clean. They need to be SFW. Just as we don't want inappropriate content, I don't want images that you wouldn't want to be seen viewing at work, or around your kids.

Of course make sure to read the BN rules which also prohibits cutting and pasting of content from other sites.

Thanks for reading this long and detailed post. If you can put some of these suggestions into your own posts and comments, they'll look better and you're more likely to get many more people reading them.

Now ... fire away.

GO BRUINS.

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