Cowardly Cheatey Pete Carroll Looking To Escape Out Of A Scandal Ridden U$C*: More Updates
by Nestor on Jan 8, 2010 1:27 PM PST
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PrintWell this story is DEVELOPING very FAST now. So let's do a new thread.
It's coming from so many different sources including from people close to Cheatey, Southern Cal and Seattle per the reports. So might as well start a brand new thread with more updates as they develop. Here are multiple tweets from Mortensen from tWWL who has been all over this story:
# Ready to talk on ESPN about who Seahawks are targeting…big news if it happens. about 1 hour ago from web
# Pete Carroll is the guy Seahawks are targeting. It is expected to happen, according to sources. Just reported to ESPN 10 minutes ago. about 1 hour ago from web
# Pete Carroll’s test message back to me on Seattle: "You know I haven’t responded to a NFL question in two years." 14 minutes ago from web
# Filing to ESPN: Many sources now confirming Carroll and Seahawks looming marriage, 13 minutes ago from web
# Pete Carroll’s text message back to me on Seattle: "You know I haven’t responded to a NFL question in two years." ha! it wasn’t a `test’ msg 11 minutes ago from web
Thanks KSBruin. More after the jump.
Apparently Cheatey has already reached out to DeWayne Walker:
Also, Carroll has reached out about assembling a coaching staff for the Seahawks gig, which included reaching out to UCLA defensive coordinator DeWayne Walker.
Man we can make so many observations if that scenario comes true. Speaking of scenarios UCLA Class of 86 has some ideas on why this might unfolding:
The f**kin' slimeball is bailing just in time to cement his "legacy." Remember, it’s all about Cheatie and how others perceive his tainted tenure.
If he stays another year or two, and the NCAA somehow decides to finally punish just$c*, he risks being exposed as a fraud who rode the coattails of "student athletes" who were paid big money (cars, houses, etc.) to play in South Central.
If he leaves now, and the program takes a huge dive instead of just arcing downward, he looks even better to those who turn a blind eye to what everyone else in the world knows has been going on for the past 7 years.
Keep it coming guys. GO BRUINS.
UPDATE (N): Ted Miller is now on the story. No new info. but Ted points to the most important reason why Cheatey is looking to escape:
Even more important: The NCAA's case against Reggie Bush might be coming to a head. With Bush losing his attempt to force confidential arbitration to settle a lawsuit filed by a would-be sports agent who allegedly gave Bush cash and gifts while he played for USC, testimony for the case will be made public. Testimony that the NCAA could use to sanction the football program.
So maybe Carroll wants to get out while the getting is good.
In other words he is being a coward and doesn't want to face the (possible) music. GO BRUINS.
UPDATE II (P): On the idea that Carroll would become Coach/GM in Seattle SBN’s Seahawks blog cites an ESPN report that two candidates for Seattle’s GM position have canceled scheduled interviews with the team.
UPDATE III (N): Adande tweets:
Football source on Pete Carroll to Seahawks: "Done deal. Done done done deal." That's not 100% confirmation, but I'm inclined to believe it
Thanks Avi. GO BRUINS.
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Maybe we're reading way too much into the sanctions aspect.
Maybe he just broke up with his grad school girlfriend and needed to get away.
Go Bruins!
by Harsha on Jan 8, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
No new info
but an interesting column by Ted Miller on his tWWL Pac-10 blog:
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/6939/is-carroll-headed-to-seattle
From the above link
“No,” he says. ’I’m a professional college coach."
Such a great quote, on so many levels.
formerly bruinhoo
by Patroclus on Jan 8, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
great news and all, but...
I was really hoping to kick his ass in 2010 for this year’s debacle. Revenge would have been sweet!
Maybe he called for the bomb
because he knew he wouldn’t be back…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
hmmmmm... interesting
but that’s just makes him more of dick doesn’t it?!
wtf?
This thread now shows up on Google News…as
Cowardly Cheatey Pete Carroll Looking To Escape Out Of A Scandal Ridden U$C …
Bruins Nation – Amy Sancetta – 2 minutes ago
Nestor, did you change your name??
4 names now?
Geez.
Back to the subject. This is fun, dare I say, exciting! I’ll believe it when the ink is dry, but I do enjoy the chaos it’s causing for those people.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Seriously!
I’m the only one who puts his name as his SBN name, yet I’m the only one who never gets to be himself. :-)
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Let it begin
The official downfall of Troy, followed very soon by the uprising in Westwood
This would be a big blow to them
but I think sanctions would be bigger, as good coaching candidates and recruits would likely start shunning them.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
I can see Del Rio
Fisher I think gets more time in Tennessee.
by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 8, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Let me be the 1st
to recommend Dolphins WR coach Karl Dorrell. ;-)
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Love the quote from the ESPN mainpage video
“coached the Jets, coached the Patriots for a couple years, what many viewed as a failure”
Love it!
Don't normally comment of football, but...
Man, do I want this to happen. Carroll not only breathed air into the cadaver that was SC football, he single handedly became the face of Pac-10 football nationally. USC would not only be losing their main recruiting tool, but their face…I hear Mike Reilly at OSU has already been contacted (FOX Radio).
Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.
Oh PLEASE!
BABY JESUS PLEASE! This is all I want for Orthodox Christmas!
Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.
They will need a replacement
Maybe they can go for Larry Smith. That worked well once. Or if they want someone who already coached them, there’s always Paul Hackett.
Jeez, Fox, yer slippin'
Larry Smith is playing cards with Howard jones these days
The Mad Bruin
Another thought
According to Cheatie Petie, there was this really really good coach, and he was even here in town.
I can’t type his name, but his initials are CTS. Wouldnt’ that be great?
Just some more things to think about....
Yes, Carroll’s been mentioned in other roles.
However, Mora’s firing was completely unexpected, and the LA Times is reporting that Seattle brass were in LA last week gauging Carroll’s interest in the position. Related? You’d have to think so.
In addition, this is also the first time that a potential staff has been bandied out in the media, which leads me to believe this has to be in the works in the background.
Also, I find it hilarious that almost all Seahawks fans are freaking out about this entire situation.
Oh yeah
My personal favorite so far:
If Carroll becomes the head coach of the Hawks, I will punch myself in the face. Posted on January 8, 2010 at 12:14 PM by Sounders4Glory.
I was surprised when I heard Mora had been fired,
till I heard this news it suddenly all made sense. Of course they will also have to follow the “Rooney Rule”, but I’m sure Petey will let them know those kinds of honorary rules don’t mean $h*t.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
The only way I will spend time thinking about this
Is that if he does jump, I will be so pissed that we didn’t kick his ass up and down. I was telling co-workers today that I never thought I could hate u$c any more than I previously did, but that all changed in November.
I won’t react until it happens, but I will say that the sources seem more strong now.
Well how about this...
He leaves, $uc* gets smacked by the NCAA, cheat flops in the NFL (again), and he’s back a few years later. Sort of like Jim Robinson II—back to get his ass kicked by us regularly?
Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 8, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
The speed of this news
is what seems so striking. I think it is also noteworthy that PC was interviewed before Mora was fired, and that Mora wasn’t even widely considered to be on the hot seat. Makes it seem that everything has been in the works for probably the last several days, and that Mora’s firing might mean it’s already a done deal.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Yes, I was very surprised at Mora's firing
Firing a coach after one year is something Al Davis and Dan Snyder do.
by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 8, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Total Agree BB
My hatred for them which was instilled in me at birth couldn’t be stronger at this point. But I want to see their program in a shambles. Anything that gets us there works for me! And it is just like him to leave when the going gets tough…
Loving USC's newest tradition
of coaches running away from the program they propped up on cheating in flames.
I don't think he'll go
The reports are that he’s getting offered lots of money and lots of power as GM and Head Coach. But he already has lots of money, and he already is the Head Coach and Chancellor of the school, so how much more power does he need? The money also won’t be an issue — the students just call home and ask daddy for an advance of next week’s allowance.
The deciding factor for me is the salary cap. Cheatie will look at the nfl salary cap and wonder if he can do anything with that kind of a limitation – something he didn’t have at just$c.
That has always been my train of thought
He owns that place, why would he give it up, unless sanctions are about to come down. Until proven otherwise, I believe the NCAA has no balls.
by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Don't care if he stays or go
The fact that this story has blown up this way helps us on the recruiting front. We will get our revenge on the field sooner or later no matter who coaches those mercenaries.
Unfortunately
it also helps Oregon…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
I'm with you on that
I just wanted a repeat of 13-9 so that I could see that look on his face one more time and knowing that we were the direct cause of that.
by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 8, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Next year is the caveat
Next year will be an uncapped year, giving him a once in a lifetime opportunity to build his team without the usual constraints. That opportunity won’t likely happen again – Kind of the same reason for more college underclassmen going pro this year.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Adande's also saying
this is a done deal as well, per 710 ESPN Seattle and Adande’s twitter feed:
the departure of holmgren
does anyone think that if Mike Holmgren was still their guy for personnel this would happen? I mean would an $c alum lure away their most successful coach of the past few decades?
on a side note, please let this be true.
On the idea that Carroll would become Coach/GM in Seattle
SBN’s Seahawks blog cites an ESPN report that two candidates for Seattle’s GM position have canceled scheduled interviews with the team.
formerly bruinhoo
Also noteworthy
no quick denial from Pete, less than one month from National Signing Day.
I think the only thing holding this thing up is the Seahawks still needing to complete the Rooney Rule mandate.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Exactly
At first I was thinking that the Rooney Rule could through this all out of whack. But if Seattle already interviewed Cheatey earlier this week, they likely already interviewed somebody to satisfy the Rooney Rule.
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 8, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Rooney rule doesn't apply here
Cheatie is a minority – he’s one of the few coaches with no integrity, no morality, etc. That makes him a minority, so Seattle is OK.
Does anybody feel like the Greeks who hid inside the wooden horse???
Seriously, now, I just want to bust out the horse’s guts and see if we’re really about to burn Troy to the ground, or if things went sideways and we’re still on the beach with no one to fight.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Cowherd
is suggesting urban myer as the next $C coach….LMAO!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
just another sc homer
from the WWL
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
And ESPN reported this morning today that McKnight is entering the draft?!?
This is getting better by the MINUTE.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Here's the link.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=4808364
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Sorry, dealing with client calls all day.
Just saw it in FanPosts. Ugh.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Would it be wrong to hope that BN's infamous list of U$C deabuchery helped with this???
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
I think they'll go after Sarkisian if they go the college route
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think it really comes down to how much say Garrett has in the process
If he has a say, I think it’s Riley or a NFL guy. If he’s not involved, Sarkisian or a few other younger guys are in play.
The most interesting thing in this whole story to me is what kind of say Garrett has in the hiring of the new coach. It will tell us a lot about the state of their athletic department and how they handle it all could provide some insight into what they think the NCAA will do to them. Going after O’Neil for basketball told me a lot and it proved to be right. We’ll see what happens with football.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Got to think
whomever is contacted will be asking questions about the NCAA. If we start reading reports that multiple names have “taken themselves out of consideration” although they are logical choices, gotta feel good about possibly seeing the NCAA finally do something. Better not be a slap on the wrist though or I’m going to be pissed.
what about
jeff fisher or del rio…both are trojies, right?
Yes
Though I see Del Rio before Fisher. I still think Fisher has more time in Tennessee than Del Rio does in Jacksonville.
by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 8, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
I'd think it'd be too sleazy for Sark to bail after one year, BUT...
… you know what they say about apples falling from trees.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
I just read Kiffin's name brought up as well
not out of the realm of possibilities for Cheatey’s deciples
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
That is the DOUCHE-IEST goatee I’ve ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
by inhowlandwetrust on Jan 8, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm guessing this has to do with the Bush scandal and the possibility of sanctions forthcoming
But also Allen is offering Pete everything he ever wanted from an NFL job—exorbitant contract, total command over player decisions, ability to handpick his staff, etc. etc. Perfect storm of an NFL team giving him what he was seeking and what could be a terrible situation for Carroll in South LA next fall.
If a lot of Trojans start backing out of their verbals, expect the hammer to fall.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 8, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Next few weeks are going to be very interesting
From Cal perspective who do you guys think you can target if their verbals fall? I am assuming you guys will go after Uko as well. Who else?
Uko is the main guy I’m guessing. We need a DE for the 3-4 and he’d be perfect. Robert Woods too.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
OT here, but on ESPN they're talking about Texas next year
and in addition to a new QB, they’re replacing the entire left side of their line and all but one member of their front seven according to them. That front seven thing could be a life saver because they looked damn good last night.
Formerly ryebreadraz
Yeah
maybe MAYBE we will have a shot next year. We have a lot of questions on defense. It looks like it will at least be closer than it would have been had we played them this year. Its a long time between now and then, though.
Yeah, we'll be fighting an uphill battle
but after seeing how good Texas was up front yesterday, this makes me feel a little better.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Remember when Petey questioned BP's character for not taking a visit to $C?
Shoe’s on the other foot now for Pope Pious Petey the First.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Irony of ironies
With two first round picks, Petey is position to draft BP if he takes the job.
That may be the only time I would ever advocate a player hitting his coach.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Oh no
I hadn’t thought of that! PLEASE let BP go somewhere else!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
I'm wondering how much of a say
Garrett will have in picking PC’s successor considering everything that he has let happen under his watch… will he go too?
by inhowlandwetrust on Jan 8, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions
Sanctions?
Kind of a chicken/egg thought, but I wonder if Cheetey leaves, if that would give the NCAAholes any more courage to go after $c*. It’s easiest to kick a man when he’s down – he’s right there by your feet – you don’t have to work as hard. We’ve all gotten older waiting for the clowns to do their job. This may actually make it easier for them.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
If anything, it mgith spur them to do it...
… so that GARRETT takes the blame.
“Institutional control” means more than just one program.
Memo to the NCAA regarding $C: NUKE ’EM.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
That's 'might.' Man, I'm off today.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
One major negative if PC leaves
is that he and whoever he takes with him, will no longer have to talk to the NCAA. It could hamper whatever the NCAA is or isn’t doing.
Formerly ryebreadraz
He would be forced to speak to them
and if he was proven to have lied or not told everything he knew, SC would take a much larger hit. Not getting him in the room will hamper things.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
That's twice.
When you say “NCAA” and “hamper”, I think that must be where they put their diapers.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
pete the slime
If you saw Petey on the BCS show it became very apparent that this guy is the master Steve Lavin—hokey jokey talk a lot, media energy bunny, laughing to keep from cryin’ doomed to sell juice machines in his golden years. I don’t want to watch the film of Petey and Barkley on the down low.
I wasn't listening, of course, when that happened
But when his smiling face came on the picture, I made it clear to Mrs. Fox 71 that not only must the sound go off, the picture had to go off, to. My voice had an eerie, postal quality at that point, so she quickly turned the tube off. Not just to another channel. In retrospect, I think that move may have saved our TV from getting broken to several, very small, smithereens.
I’m a Christian. Many Christians think the end times are here, and wonder if the anti-Christ is alive. There is some thought that Obama is the one. I’m not one of those people. But every time I see Cheatie Petie, I think I smell just a hint of sulphur.
Happy Saturday Morning to all
Sounds like it’s a done deal (from ESPN): http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4810861
The rats always leave first when the ship is sinking. Timmeh did it when the walls were closing in. The McKnight $candal—and the self-imposed “sanctions” on the b-ball program—pushed Cheatey over the edge.
When the sanctions finally hit football, Cheatey will be toiling up in Seattle with his 4-12 teams.
What’s your deal, Petey? Can’t handle a few $candals and sanctions? Is that the legacy you want to leave behind? Is leaving when times are a little tough “always competing”? Are you leaving because you can’t find a way to even beat Stanford anymore, even when you are playing at home?
Hypocrite. Coward.
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