Cowardly Cheatey's Escape Thread Cont: Speculation On Candidates/Recruiting Consequences
by Nestor on Jan 8, 2010 2:53 PM PST
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PrintPer the updates in our last post it's looking lot more than just mere speculation that Cowardly Cheatey Petey might be high tailing out of South Central Los Angeles for a job with the Seattle Seahawks. While this is not a done deal yet we have lot more than smoke signals. So let's chat a little about possible coaching candidates for a scandal tainted program (here is our two year old list) which should be facing severe sanctions from the NCAA if the allegations involving Bush, McKnight, Mayo and who knows what else is beneath the surface stories were to be proven true.
Some names that come to mind instantly:
- Mike Riley (Oregon State Beavers)
- Jeff Fisher (Tennessee Titans)
- Jack Del Rio (Jacksonville Jaguars)
Of course all of those guys have Trojan ties. Couple of other guys with Trojan ties (specifically Pete Carroll ties) are Steve Sarkasian and Lane Kiffin. Plus the Trojans can always elevate Ken Norton to take over their program. No? More after the jump.
None of those names above the fold really worry me all that much. A factor that might be in play per Ryan:
The most interesting thing in this whole story to me is what kind of say Garrett has in the hiring of the new coach. It will tell us a lot about the state of their athletic department and how they handle it all could provide some insight into what they think the NCAA will do to them. Going after O’Neil for basketball told me a lot and it proved to be right. We’ll see what happens with football.
As Blue Reign responded to that observation, we have to assume any possible candidate will want a full and honest (if that is possible over at South Central) briefing re. possible sanctions. Meanwhile, the news will potentially have definite consequences in recruiting. I can think of two names right off the bat:
- George Uko
- Robert Woods
Any other names we should be thinking about. Let's discuss it in the open thread. If you see more updated stories please share them in the comments. I will update them as I can. If I am not around hopefully other frontpagers will update my post.
GO BRUINS.
UPDATE (N): From Pete Thamel's tweets (NYT):
I’m on campus at U.S.C. Pete Carroll hasn’t been here all day. Not a lot of optimism that he’s staying.
Gotta love the USC SID Dept. They handed me a piece of paper that said, “We have nothing to report. Perhaps check with the Seahawks.”
Thanks WW. Just classic. GO BRUINS.
UPDATE II (N): Field Gulls (SBN's Seahawk's Blog) now bracing (and welcoming?) Petey as their new head coach. Also from Adam Schefter of tWWL:
Interesting point to note: Seahawks chairman Paul Allen and CEO Tod Leiweke fired Jim Mora in Los Angeles, where Pete Carroll lives.
Suddenly I am going to really really care about watching Niners-Hawks next season. GO BRUINS.
UPDATE III (N): Mandel (SI) calls it a conveniently timed "get out of jail free" card:
Whatever the eventual result, it sounds like the Seahawks showed up this week with a conveniently timed "get out of jail free" card. Carroll can stay at Heritage Hall and ride out the storm, or he can move on to a fresh new challenge. His ego would certainly welcome the opportunity for NFL redemption, but he'll need to be assured the type of all-encompassing authority over personnel decisions he's enjoyed at USC -- and which he's long lamented to be a pitfall of coaching in the pros. Nick Saban returned to college largely for that very reason.
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Of all the days to be doing client calls and reviewing motions...
… I’m stuck for the next couple of hours with legal deadlines, but I’ll update when I can.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Until he can prove that he didn't do what he is accused of
he’s radioactive. With what happened with Mangino at Kansas and Leavitt at USF, you can’t hire Leach if you’re not sure he was wronged by TT.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure he was wronged by Texas Tech
But I don’t think he would consider just$c*. I can imagine the interview:
Garrett: Here’s your office, Mike.
Leach: But there are no windows.
Garrett: Yeah, you can’t be looking outside, because you might wonder about all the Landrovers in the parking lot.
Leach: What are all those filing cabinets hidden away in that vault?
Garrett: That vault? Oh, you mean our compliance department. Just never mind about that. That’s not your concern at all.
Leach: Huh?
Garrett: Those records will all be gone by the end of the day. Not an issue, don’t worry.
And so it would go.
I really believe
That amongst Arizona rumors in the past, this just feels like it’s true. With the NCAA sniffing and this whole Mayo and McKnight incident, I really believe that he is saving himself.
He’s had a great career and kicked our ass around numerous times, but I won’t miss Peter one bit.
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by 03rdn9 on Jan 8, 2010 2:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
"great career"?
To you perhaps but not to anyone who is ok with the kind of sleaze that has been oozing out of his program.
On the field
At least
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by 03rdn9 on Jan 8, 2010 3:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
No
You can’t call a career “great” if it’s based on House of Cheating Scandals. If he had gotten recruits like Bush, Knight, Jarrett by playing within the rules, one could legitimately argue he had a “great” career. Per the reports that have come out it certainly appears he didn’t play within those rules. So if you want to pimp his “accomplishments” as a “great career” sell that line of trash to your Trojan friends, not here on BN.
Now now, folks, be fair...
After all, who else has done more to bring professional football players to the Coliseum than anyone else in the past 10 years?????
LOL.
MIM
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Jan 8, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ya
I’m really in the business of making Pete Carroll look any better than the obvious scandals he’s been involved in. Cmon N you know what I’m talking about, I’m just saying that he’s been able to put some great numbers up, even if they were tattered by free cars, housing, etc
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by 03rdn9 on Jan 8, 2010 3:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
No
It’s ridiculous to acknowledge his resume as “great numbers” if you know how they were compiled. Like I said, it’s ok to pimp that line to the Trojans or on traditional media, but not on BN. Not going to let you get away with that here, so don’t bring it again.
I think you're being just a little hasty, there, Nestor
The next thing you’ll be saying is that Madoff didn’t put up good numbers, either.
Great Career???
I guess if all you care about is wins…..then Garrett and his gang of cheaters would agree with you.
I only wish he would have stuck around long enough for CRN to kick his freakin arse
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Jan 8, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
so many threads for the OJans (former) coach speculation. This is fun!
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
Too good to be true
I would love for this to happen. I want for this to happen. But I don’t want to get my hopes up only to have my heartbroken. Seattle is an afterthought in the NFL, so unless Garrett really is pushing Carrol out, I don’t see this happening.
That is my little bit of reverse mojo for the day. Boy I sure hope I’m wrong.
The beauty of this poncho - this is WIN/WIN
Doesn’t matter if it proves to be untrue. A story with so much legs, not good for their recruiting. That’s all I care about right now.
right, and if you read any posts on MSM blogs
you see that reactions from around the country are not all that far different from reactions here on BN. There are constant replies regarding his jumping ship and almost as important the scandals attached to the program. Even though the NCAA is clueless & toothless, there is a lot of momentum on the side of paint their program as dirty.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
NYT writer Pete Thamel on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/PeteThamelNYT
I’m on campus at U.S.C. Pete Carroll hasn’t been here all day. Not a lot of optimism that he’s staying.
Gotta love the USC SID Dept. They handed me a piece of paper that said, “We have nothing to report. Perhaps check with the Seahawks.”
I asked for a Seahawks phone number and they have yet to provide one. We all did get a good laugh, though.
LOLCAT is actually the freshman seminar
in English at USC.
Lolcats
Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 8, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
OJ back?
I didn’t know OJ had been paroled and was once again a full time USC employee. Good choice to have him handle press inquiries.
how long will
the goodbye embrace be between barkley and pete?
Matty's gonna
shut down LAX running past security for his goodbye kiss.
by littlebrother on Jan 8, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
as long as they have plenty of big red gum they should be fine
Smooch on OJans
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
Besides Uko & Woods
1) Xavier Grimble (6-5, 250 lbs): TE who could grow into a DT IMO and we’ve also offered his younger brother, Jalen Grimble (6-4, 250 lbs) who is a DE/DT in the Class of 2011.
2) Dietrich Riley who CRN has been on but he was decked out in suc gear and hanging out with all the sucster verbals at the UA game.
I don’t know if we’ll have the rides even if this happens. This would be good news for the Class of 2011 (Farmar/Townsend/Woods) and beyond though.
Hmm
What about Shirley. You think we can get back in that race? Also for next year … everyone is going to go after Black Mamba!!
Grades are involved with Mamba
If he can get them up though, I’m confident about our chances.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 8, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I can't really see us getting Grimble (the older) or Riley
but it would be fun to see them pick up and go elsewhere. We’ve just lost too much ground on them from the stories I’ve read.
HAHAHAHA....
Petros calling Pete out for Hyping Barkley during the press release of Corps Transfer. LOL
Incidentally...re recruiting
How do you think Tony Jefferson is feeling right about now? Oops.
Long overdue down go the scumbags
Pete is getting over loads of Jack and all the control who suffers sc and they should they all turned a blind eye to this used car salesman. This is long overdue NCAA please do your job now and finish this once and for all
by uclamike on Jan 8, 2010 3:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions
OK, I have to take a break and eat some dinner
I don’t think I can read while I eat because of the problems caused by spitting stuff on the keyboard.
I literally just
finished raviolis while reading this, man up Fox71
"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson
Well we are heading out for the night soon
It’s all you guys. Keep it up. If you come across more post it here or in fanposts or as mentioned above one of our frontpagers will update.
Great way to end the week. GO BRUINS.
I confess that I munched a bit while reading and typing.
I didn’t think anyone would believe it could be done with this comedy going on, but, well, I managed to do it.
Carroll issues statement
“The fact that Matt Hasselbeck would rather quit than compete for his starting position is a testament to Matt Barkley.”
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 8, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Chow?
Petros and Money said Chow is in consideration as new SUC coach.
LA Times
reporting contract offer is 5 years, 7 million a year to become president and coach of the Seahawks.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
What do you think..........
the chances of us getting Powell would be? I think we might have a chance. Also, don’t be surprised if we can land Woods. He is friends with Richardson, and could you imagine what that would do for our chances with Farmer. I wouldn’t be surprised if Woods switches. Having Norm Chow might be a big factor in all of this.
Powell
Powell was supposedly already a lean to Florida.
Woods and Uko are already the obvious choices. I would love to look at their OL guys but I don’t think any of them are hesitant. This will also help with guys UCLA is going head-to-head with USC (such as Hayes Pullard…and it would certainly help in 2011 with the Black Mamba if Pullard is already in Westwood).
Of course they are..........
Chow is going to be the choice of all the old “money bag alums” at SC. They love the guy, and personally I wouldn’t have a problem with him going their to run their program. All the power to him. He hasn’t proven himself as a head coach, and it wouldn’t hurt me one bit.
I would love to see him take the job
and when he gets there, confess to all the crap that’s gone on for decades, provide all the documentation showing absence of institutional control to the press (it does no good showing it to the ncaa), and then self-impose sanctions of no scholarships, no coaches and no team. Then resign, and apply to be re-hired at UCLA.
I can embrace that scenario.
Master Yoda to the Dark Side?
Sure I’m not sure how’d he’d be as a manager rather than a skilled offensive technician. He’d just be a placeholder like O/Neill until the impending (probable) sanctions have taken hold of their program (maybe 5 years?) and dissipated.
In the meantime, I’d be doing the 8 clap from morning to dusk. WOOT. Let that pendulum swing!!!
GO BRUINS
Next Coach
Why… in the world… would any coach want to stick their neck out for a declining, and corrupt program?
Formerly ucla13_usc9
I don't think they want Chow
Not sure who they want or who they can get. One thing is for sure, it’s going to cost them a lot of money. They aren’t getting Cheat’s equivalent for 1 million this time.
Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 8, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Don't know if the big money donors would want a 1st-year HC, even if it is Spock.
I would not begrudge NC for wanting to go — shoot, HC gig at a D1 power that’s arguably a bit closer to his house in the South Bay and possibly ridiculous private donor money?
HOWEVER, I sincerely hope we keep CNC in the BRUIN family.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Just reported on ESPN
John Clayton just said on WWL that his sources have told him that Carroll is the guy, but that the Seahawks are flying out Lelie Frazier to interview for the job, so that they fullfill their obligation on the Rooney Rule, which is a rule about minority hiring and at least interviewing a minority candidate. Clayton said it is basically done, but the Seahawks want to cover their bases and are interviewing him tomorrow in Seattle. After that, they will do the final things needed for a contract and Carroll should be in the NFL by early next week.
So what you're saying
Is that I have time to go buy a cigar this weekend for the celebration to come…
Wow, I''m just recovering from the bowl games ...
… and I hear about this miracle, unfolding in one day …. Is it true? … slap me now!
Several influential alumni have confirmed - Petey's Gone!
Look for Jack Del Rio to get the full court press, with Riley and Fisher as number 2 and 3 options.
this is according to NBC NEWS:…WILL FERRELL IS TALKING TO MIKE RILEY OF OSU…lol…about becoming the next usc coach…LAND OF THE LOST was considered the WORST MOVIE of 2009!…lol
by bruincheerleader on Jan 8, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions
As an avid Niner fan...
I’ll enjoy watching Patrick Willis give Petey ulcers for years to come. Seattle has no talent, it’s a dead-end job.
Tinman
Just got statements from Mark Sanchez
“The facts are so strong against this decision,” Sanchez said. “After analyzing all the information, the truth is there, he should have stayed longer. He lost out on a chance to fully prepare himself. The facts are there’s a 70 percent failure rate for unprepared college coaches in the NFL.”
Of course Sanchez added:
“Pete is going against the grain on this decision and he knows that. He knows that coming out early is a tremendous challenge for a rah rah college coach and the statistics don’t back up that it’s easy to be successful in the way that he’s going about it,”
Okay, I really gotta go!!!
by Nestor on Jan 8, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
BAAAAAH HA HAHAAAAAAA
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
NAILED IT.
Nailed it, kicked it a couple of times in the gut, locked the door, and then set the dang house on fire.
BRAVO, N.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
I took a nap
and coming back to read all the hilarious comments here, is awesome. This has been a fun day. Nestor is right, if he leaves, fine, but just the story alone is enough. It’s all over the news and has been all day. ESPN keeps bringing up the looming allegations as one of the reasons petey may leave. Keep talking about it! This is too good to be true!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
SI reports:
It could be the USC adminstration has had it with his two faced double talking out of both sides of his mouth. If the cadre of lawyers trying to defend this mess had spent hundreds of hours on the Bush-Mayo disaster by last June as they claim, well it could be the McKnight episode was the last straw—particularly after the compliance staff knew McKnight couldn’t play and Carroll said the lad had done nothing wrong. I think Dr. Sample, a good man in many respects, has had his honor permanenlty corroded by this corruption and the time for a parting of the ways is at hand. Dr. Sample’s greatest regret will be he didn’t dump the guy years ago.
I'd think the buck stops
with the president of the university institution that has allowed all of the madness over there to occur. Sample and the administration is complicit in all the (mis)going-ons at southern cal; I haven’t seen or heard any indication from Sample or anyone else that would make me think otherwise.
lol... a great excerpt from that SI article
…all those five-star recruits who signed on to be part of Carroll’s one-of-a-kind environment (the NFL-replica offense; the practice-field pranks; the team sing-alongs to “Lean on Me”) will have to adjust to a completely different personality.
You gotta admit, we had some classic memories from the Cheat Carroll era… faked sucide with Lendale, “Lean On Me” sing-a-longs…
Didn't they have like a white players only group in that mix
as part of the pranks? I could be wrong though
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
Right-on!
The greatest failure of a leader (Sample) is to hestitate when he should act.
My nomination to replace Peter the Cheater
Karl Dorrell would be a great SC head coach. He has NCAA Division I head coaching experience and likes living in the Southland. He is a top notch recruiter and a great X’s and O’s man. He can help a team turn the corner faster than lickety split. Those geniuses at Hertiage Hall would be fools not to sign him up the second Carroll cleans out his desk.
I've got a headache
and gotten dumber from reading the trOJan blog today. I have rarely looked at that site because I have no desire to, but I was interested in their take on this. Man, some of those people need serious English lessons. Not sure why I’m surprised!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
bandwagon
+1
Most of the idiots on the SC blogs probably never even went to $C.
If they're idiots
There’s a high probability that they did go there.
I'm really trying not to get my hoped up here
if those goes official i’m going to celebrate tonight : )
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
It wont become official tonight
the have an interview set up tomorrow, supposedly to satisfy the Rooney Rule. I think it could be official as soon as Sunday, so plan your celebration accordingly. :)
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
oops, "they"
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
yeah, they'll need to get their sham interview of a minority candidate in first
to skirt the Rooney rule, and probably won’t be official with press conference till early next week.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
If they already interviewed Cheatey this week...
…who’s to say that they already haven’t interviewed a minority candidate?
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 8, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
well even an "its official" tweet from somewhere
would be enough for me lol
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Tomorrow's interview may not be happening
From ESPN:
Once Mora was informed of his dismissal, the Seahawks asked Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier to interview quickly for the job but he turned them down, suspecting that the team did not have serious interest but were only trying to satisfy the Rooney Rule that requires minority candidates to be interviewed, a source said.The rush to fit in a Rooney Rule interview tells me that the Seahawks fired Mora knowing exactly who they would hire as a replacement.
formerly bruinhoo
My Goodness
I checked SI.com for analysis/thoughts about the BCS title game only to see the big headline story re: Petey to Seahawks. Went here only to see that you guys are all over this.
I haven’t had a chance to see all the comments you put up, but the SI.com story
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/08/seahawks.carroll/index.html?eref=sihp
they mentioned Chow as a “potential” OC choice of Petey. Is this some baseless rumor? I don’t see why Chow would want to work with Petey again.
Damian Williams is declaring for the draft
According to ESPN’s Bruce Feldman:
http://twitter.com/BFeldmanESPN/status/7540087437
This Tweet to back up your Tweet
ArashMarkazi This just in: USC receiver Damien Williams announces he’s going pro.
December 4, 2010
Whether he’s here or in Seattle, I can’t wait for December 4, 2010 in the Rose Bowl. I almost wish he’d stay so we can start evening up the score in his presence. 330 days Bruins!
Once cheaty's gone
I want NCAA sanctions! That would make it a perfect tarnish to USC and cheaty’s rep.
by hongerelli on Jan 8, 2010 5:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Amazing how much sc people are in denial
“It’s okay that Pete Carroll is leaving. We’re usc and we’ll always be great”
(Yeah, just look at your teams prior to his arrival.)
“It’s okay he’s leaving. Better to have short term success than stay too long like Joe Paterno or Bobby Bowden.”
“No sanctions will be imposed on the school.”
(You might want to take your head out of the ground once in a while and see reality.)
“He’s leaving because he’s a competitive guy and has unfinished business in the NFL.”
(I guess they feel Pom Pom needs to bring his style of running up the score and acting like an a-hole to the NFL.)
I just heard the news and logged on BN as fast as I could.
And, I find over 230 posts over two threads.
Meanwhile, at Scandalous Chronicles, they are gnashing their teeth, using poor grammar, and generally muttering bitterly under their breath.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Poor grammar
How is that any different than when they’re happy?
I can see it now
Pom Pom’s first day on the job and he takes his shirt off and tries to get the players to sing the Seahawks theme song with him.
It would be great if someone with more knowledge
on the subject than I, could compile a list of Chetey’s greatest scandals hits when it does become official as a nice sendoff.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
Don't worry
He might just leave it for the NCAA to sort through after he officially bolts. It might take years though for those idiots to sift through it all.
Hahaha:
http://twitter.com/timcates/status/7534810283
“playing a fun game at Disneyland called “find people wearing Usc gear and tell them Pete Carroll is leaving” Trust me, its fun."
As much as I detest Pete Caroll
A small part of me was looking forward to the developing Neuheisel-Caroll drama. Oh well, go Bruins!
Vote on NBCLA
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/Seahawks-Target-Carroll-Report-81020957.html
I voted for “laughing.” :)
And so it begins
Kyle Prater decommited from USC.
Saw it on BRO and USC's Scout board
They linked his Facebook account which I can’t view.
I can link to either of those boards if you want (don’t know if you want a USC message board linked here).
He has to go
Carroll has to go. Sample is retiring and if Carroll leaves and if Garrett retires, the board of trustees can then tell the NCAA that the bad apples have been pruned from the tree and all is well. A serious corporate damage control consultant would suggest such a scenario as a way to reduce the ultimate NCAA imposed pain. Also, it’s the right thing to do—they are a troika of either corruption or incompetence.
by peggysue69 on Jan 8, 2010 7:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
hahahaha
If I was a Seattle fan, I’d be screaming in horror at spending that much to get a mediocre cheating coach who has previously failed in the NFL.
Good think I’m a Niners fan. Such an amazing evening. Thank you football gods.
I've been screaming
Since LA lost their teams I adopted the Seaweeds as my team; I did live in Seattle for 3 years. I’m as disappointed as when UW hired Sark.
Geezer in training.
I really feel angry about this scum bag ditching out. (if it actually goes down)
I can’t help but feel cheated if this a-hole bails for the NFL. His b.s. “program” was falling apart at the seems and we were on the verge of sticking it to this tool and making his life miserable. I was at the last city championship, like many others here on BN, and that horse-sh** deep ball TD he called still makes me want to execute a Dragovic type “incident” to his leathery skinned face when I think about it. This really sucks!!! What a cowardly puke that cheating pile of garbage is. I understand why some are excited about this news, but to me it just ruins my day. I guess cheaty cheated me, and the rest of us one more time. G** d*** he’s a slimy piece of trash….
Sorry for the allusions to 4 letter words N. I’m just disgusted with his timing… once again he shows his true colors: yellow. #%$&!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruin-4-Life!!!
Calipari slickness
Such is life
by hongerelli on Jan 8, 2010 11:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Even some of the usc the students have had it
Here is an opinion piece in the Daily Trojan written right after Kevin McNeill was hired. I haven’t seen it before. If it has been posted I apologize. It shows even some of the trojan students are weary of this scandal clad athetic department:
Even some of the students are fed up with the stonewalling and lying coming from the trojan lawyers and AD and coaches.
I'm sure it's a minority view point on campus... and I'll bet cheaty sent some thugs out to "take care" of them
Bruin-4-Life!!!
There's absolutely no evidence, not a shred of evidence of violence
By the way, services are pending.
Seriously, not everybody who attends that dump is a complete dolt. There are smart honorable people who are on the faculty and staff or are students. There are people there who are embarrassed by the unrelenting corruption. And the Daily Trojan opinion piece reflects that. But here is the real tragedy—so few students speak out. And I have not heard of a sIngle faculty member criticize the mishandling of the corruption issue. There is a moral vacuum on Figueroa and Dr. Sample must bear that responsibility.
by peggysue69 on Jan 8, 2010 8:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually...
my older brother is a trojie (can’t believe I’m admitting that on here) and is one heck of a geologist. In fact I have a few relatives that are $uc alums too. I love them all to death… but I might have to kill ’em!
Going to UCLA was a no-brainer for me.
Bruin-4-Life!!!
You're not the only one
Many $C relatives here…and they’re pretty brilliant.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jan 8, 2010 9:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wait a minute, PeggySue
I read that a couple of times, and all that quote is talking about is basketball. I’ve read through some stuff in the Conquest Cornickles, and they’re still in total denial about anything even remotely wrong with their football program. How could Cheatie possibly keep track of where all his kids parents are living? Not possible. And he couldn’t possibly know about Jarrett. Or McSUV. And on and on.
The stuff that he actually admitted to they treat like “White Nation,” i.e., “Oh that’s just a prank and means nothing.”
When they’re actually backed into a corner, the response is kill the messenger, i.e., “Oh, he’s a felon and he’s got a book deal so we don’t believe him.” Alternatively, the response is to ignore what’s happening at home and look over someone else’s fence, i.e., “Oh, everyone does it,” or “Well, your coach bet on basketball pools.”
They have totally swallowed and totally assimilated every molecule of the Kool Aid when it comes to football. I think it must be some massive and very tragic collective character flaw. People who might otherwise be OK are just blinded by the mirrors and smoke. It’s sad, actually.
Conquest Cornickles--out of touch crowd
I don’t think the author of that Daily Trojan piece is in total denial about the basketball squalor. What she thinks about football—good point and I don’t have a credible answer or analysis. But she is not part of the confused Conquest Cornickles crowd who as you note claim everybody does it (not true) or CRN bet on basketball. Her piece reflects a proper disgust at the basketball corruption and does not reflect any moral equivalence on the subject.
I can’t figure out the apparent Conquest Cornickles crowd demonic possession. I sure was hot when Toledo had a bunch of players being arraigned on that disabled parking caper or when Cade McKnown had to undergo a lie detector test because he was observed visiting the home of a made mafia member. And to this day I will never understand how the words “Lavin” and UCLA could ever end up in the same sentence. I guess it is that Kool-aid.
by peggysue69 on Jan 8, 2010 11:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
IT'S OFFICIAL
Per Markazi’s twitter: “Just heard from a Carroll family member that it’s a done deal and that Carroll already has a GM in place.”
Nope.
Already signed as OC for KC Chiefs. Sure would’ve been perfect, though.
by KSBruin on Jan 8, 2010 9:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Chiefs-Seattle game
If the cheater takes the Seattle gig, when the Seahawks play KC, that’ll be a dustup. They deserve each other.
by peggysue69 on Jan 8, 2010 11:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm getting the sense that this is going to happen
More “sources” confirming
Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.
if he's looking for a GM
I hear Senora Ross is available.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jan 8, 2010 8:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Check out the comments on the linked article...
Just read the comments on the linked article and the 2nd comment really stood out to me. Check it out.
“Thanks for all the coaching Mr. Carroll, you will be missed. You know what I always wanted to see as a matchup, Trojans vs (NFL)Raiders. I am a fan of both teams.”
Always new SC and the Raiders had the same fan base.
LOL
That is funny. I’m not sure if that is sarcasm or stupidity.
However, all this talk about professional teams has given me a sinking sensation in my stomach: Does anyone think the Seahawks are going to move to L.A. or is Paul Allen a purely Seattle man? I’m thinking the Seahawks threats of leaving Seattle are over and I’m just paranoid.
Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 8, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with tasser10
As a diehard Seattle Seahawks fan and a lifelong Angeleno (im rare, I know), as much as I wanted this to happen when I was younger, it definitely wont. For one Paul Allen is Seattle through and through and he has made considerable efforts to market the team and fill Qwest Field and is committed to winning in Seattle. Secondly, after losing the Sonics, Seattle would probably bend over backwards to keep them. There is no way a market like Seattle could be left with just one team from a major professional sports league (Mariners). The Seattle fanbase is passionate and covers not just Seattle but the entire Pacific Northwest.
"Beating USC isn't a matter of life and death, it's more important than that" -Red Sanders-
by PrincetonBruin on Jan 8, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Princeton, you're not the only one
I’ve been a fan of the Seaweeds for the last 20 years, when I lived up there for grad school. Remember Quest Field is pretty new, and Paul Allen is too smart to wander into the LA snakepit of a stadium fight.
Geezer in training.
Can't wait for Petey's arrogance to doom
him with player personnel decisions in the NFL.
He can’t even hire decent assistants anymore, and imagine in him in total control with parity in talent?
he is doomed…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
Chris Mortensen says the deal should be done no later than Mon... but could be done by tomorrow.
its on the front page over at WWL.
Bruin-4-Life!!!
People have a short memory
I truly hope Petey gets his due justice, at least in the court of mass public opinion, when all scandals are fully flushed out. I would hate for this to be a “blame Obama on the recession” situation a few years from now when the new guy is struggling. (My apologies for any political commentary) Petey does not deserve this contract, will most likely fail miserably, and is an absolute sleaze for leaving as the storm approaches. Certainly good for UCLA for a number of reasons but the whole thing makes me a little bit sick.
knx radio reporting
40 million for 5 years. Signed. He has full football aauthority
Will see if it is true?
My worry: Norm Chow goes acrioss town for a few years as head coach
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 8, 2010 9:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I love the Seahawks' SBN site's commentary on this
On the running Carroll thread over at Field Gulls, this is my favorite exchange so far:
Carroll will look terrible if USC gets hit with a bunch of penalties after the fact and the Hawks will have given him a golden parachute.
Welcome to SC North, college to pro.
by lemonverbena on Jan 8, 2010 3:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If he gets hired by Seattle I fully expect the NCAA To kill USC football within a week.
by bluemax on Jan 8, 2010 3:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This has been my fear since the McKnight story broke. It will be the early 90s all over again.
by Trojan Knight on Jan 8, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Trojan football is killed I hate USC.
by SSreporters on Jan 8, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do not. USC is a awesome campus.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 8, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not even the best in it’s own city. UCLA is a better campus…
by whiskey chainsaw on Jan 8, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
I’m sticking with Dorrell.
by peggysue69 on Jan 8, 2010 11:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If Paul's not available
maybe they can bring back John Robinson a third time.
by Give me a B... on Jan 9, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Newsflash!
From ESPN Underground: Pete Carrol to trade for Matt Leinart, Lendale White and Reggie Bush as the new head coach of Seattle. Why? “They were the best pros money could buy in LA when I coached there,” said Carrol over a cup of Seattle’s Best. “Only now they’re a lot cheaper.”
Doesn't need to trade
White is a free agent, so I figure he’s expecting a deal on par with what he made during his time at USC.
by McNown to Farmer on Jan 9, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
This was a fun day, Bruins
Goodnight and GO BRUINS!!!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
ESPN reporting
that deal is done and that the Seahawks are interviewing Minn DC Frazier this AM. Also, interesting graphs regarding SUC recruits:
When the news broke Friday that Carroll could be headed to Seattle, USC’s incoming freshman class at the U.S. Army All American Bow in San Antonio began franctically calling USC’s assistant coaches. For the rest of the day, not a single USC assistant returned a single phone call, according to sources at the game.
By now, calls might have been returned. But witnesses to the scene said that players such as All-American wide receiver Kyle Prater and running back Dillon Baxter could not figure out what was unfolding with Carroll. Baxter, for one, had verbally committed to USC as a high-school freshman and never looked at another school. But now that Carroll is expected to leave USC, other schools already have begun contacting the players scheduled to enroll there in the fall with hopes they will change their mind.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Wow
petey is totally screwing them. Assistants probably couldn’t return calls because they don’t know what the hell is going on and if they will be brought with petey or not! I know Rick will call these guys back!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
Revenge for the bomb.
Too bad we’ll never see Cheaty’s face on the sideline anymore, especially after we beat them this year! Every Pac-10 team probably also wanted to run up the score his ass, the good times missed….
We can still get revenge
I can still remember that arrogant smirk on Barkley’s face and a bunch of their clowns jumping up and down on that sideline….our players and coaches shouldn’t forget that either.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Its only 329 days now
329 days until December 4—Bruins versus the trojans in the Rose Bowl.
Sorry to see him go
I wanted to see the expression on his face with Rick and the Bruins whacked the Trojans at the Rose Bowl next season. I wanted to watch him go down with the sinking ship and laugh about it over and over again. It won’t be the same watching him struggle in Seattle. In a way, I feel cheated (what a shock, considering it’s Carroll).
I also hope USC doesn’t get it right with their next hire – the names being mentioned (Riley and Fisher especially) are very good coaches in my opinion and I wouldn’t like to see them at USC. At least with Cheaty there, you knew his ego would continue to undermine his staff until there was nobody left to actually coach football.
by McNown to Farmer on Jan 9, 2010 9:22 AM PST reply actions
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