As Expected Bruins Implode & Embarrass The Four Letters Against Stanford
Well can't say I am really surprised by what took place up in Maples this evening. Bruins follow up a lucky win against California with another Saturday humiliation. It was another Saturday of mind blowing turnovers, matador defense of uninspiring and pathetic basketball by a Ben Howland coached team. The final score was 59-70 debacle. It should have been lot uglier given how bad the Bruins looked this afternoon. Here is the box score.
Nikola Dragovic - the fire "starter" - set the tone early. He got roasted in his first defensive possession leading to a Stanford score. Then he got schooled by Fields (and happened time and again rest of the game), threw up an ugly looking airball layup attempt, and then turned the ball over. Thankfully Howland sat him down and the Bruins with Keefe and Lane made a little run to give us hope in the first half. It didn't matter though. As I said the tone was set.
Rest of the team (except for Reeves Nelson) sleepwalked and went through the motions to look like bunch of lifeless zombies against a very average Stanford team. I don't understand how the Cardinal let the game be so close even though we turned the ball over a pathetic 21 times. Bruins looked like a joke.
I don't really have any positive to take from this game. Michael Roll followed up his game winner with an awful performance. He was responsible for number of key turnovers and simply was atrocious on defense. Speaking of atrocious Malcolm Lee probably had his worst defensive performance as a Bruin as he looked helpless against Jeremy Green who finished with 30 points.
I don't have to add anything on Dragovic. Jerime Anderson looked clueless. I can't get really encouraged by flashes of positive signs from Honeycutt, Nelson, Bobo or Lane. The main problem with this team is that they are not guys of who are mentally tough.
Also, I don’t really care much for the whining about SPTRs. We are so bad defensively and are so sloppy on the offensive end those calls wouldn’t have made much of a difference. And why would the team play with any sense of urgency when Howland keeps playing guys thinking they will get “hot” from the 3 point line, while they screw around on all other aspects of the game. If the Trojans play like they have most of this season – with heart, intensity and passion – they should throttle these posers next week.
Yep, at this point after what we have seen from these guys up to this point of the season and what we have seen from Kevin O'Neil's Trojans, I fully expect those guys to come to Pauley and humiliate us on our home court. It's the Trojans who have been playing Ben Ball, while the Howland coached basketball team have been flailing around like they play for Just$C.
Ed O, JR Henderson, AA, JF, LRMAM, LMR, RW and DC would be disgusted if they watched the game today. The core of the current basketball team embarrassed the four letters - AGAIN - today. It's getting old.
GO BRUINS.
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I wouldn't say we were totally embarrassed
On a 10 point scale of embarrassment where 1 is farting in an elevator and 10 is being handcuffed nude in front of a stadium of people this game was a 3.
by alcor805 on Jan 9, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahaha
I needed that
formerly bruinhoo
by Patroclus on Jan 9, 2010 5:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
hahahahahaha
I needed that
formerly bruinhoo
by Patroclus on Jan 9, 2010 5:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm back to reading
cheaty articles. Like seeing that Prater is not enrolling now and one of their JC guys said he is decommitting. Another recruit said
“Well, It’s tough because he had told all of the us that are looking at USC that he was going to stay, so some of us are upset about it,” said Jeffcoat, a five-star DE.
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
No Prate and no Baxter
Both were going to enroll Monday, but no longer will.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 9, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Any more news on who our rumored new commit is?
Prater would we sick as he is the best rated WR, but I think I would rather steal OL and DL guys over any other position right now.
Flashback to the early 80's
Basketball went on probation and football to the rose bowl
by 84 on Jan 9, 2010 6:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
SC is losing their minds
and we’re going to reap the benefits. (Curtain slowly closes)
I just saw the picture at the top of the thread...too funny
It looks like Drago is that un-athletic kid from gym class getting throttled.
Waaayyyyyyy off topic ...
But doesn’t it look like Ed Hochuli has lost his “guns”? I wonder if he was juicing and has since laid off.
UCLA's record on Saturdays
0-4.
Avg margin of defeat: 13.5 pts
by insomniacslounge on Jan 9, 2010 5:20 PM PST reply actions
Our "team" played so pathetically
I actually fell asleep watching this charade. Woke up when it was 53/32 only to see us completely implode in crunch time against a ONE MAN, very average Stanford team.
If this keeps us CBH will have some ‘splainin’ to do. Clearly he knows how to coach, so the question is, why are the players, as weak as they seem, apparently sleep walking instead at least playing fundamentally sound.
I mean 22 turnovers. No excuse.
Let’s find 7 that care, if we can, and just play them.
GO BRUINS.
Unbelieveable huh?
We actually had the lead in the 2nd half before Dragoo worked his magic.
In other news Chase Stanback won
14 pts 9 rebs for UNLV in their road win over #14 NMSU
UNM not NMSU
UNM is the good team. NMSU is the one we beat.
by insomniacslounge on Jan 9, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
You are correct sir
I’m sure Chase would have had 30 on NMSU
What can I say N
You called it
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Jan 9, 2010 5:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Just a bad team
in a bad conference. Period. We play poorly on Wednesday, and get a W. We play poorly today, and get a L. I expect more of the same for the rest of the year.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Silver lining.
It really seems like even in our lows Reeves Nelson is the lone bright spot. I really enjoyed his intensity against Kansas, and it seems like he is going to be the one bright spot this season produces.
I have long since accepted the fact that we are going to lose to South Central twice this year and just add to our athletic misery. BUT! It occurred to me, that we are in a good position to win next week. In our roller coaster ride, we have just come off a low, and we play at home. For what it’s worth, I refuse to lose faith until the last buzzer sounds.
Let’s hope our guys pick themselves up and turn a corner this week. Go Bruins.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Jan 9, 2010 6:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeap, Nelson was the only bright spot......
He has limited skills, at least for now. But this afternoon at Palo Alto, he did all he could underneath the basket. Actually, had it not been for those two consecutive turnovers following his two gutsy blocks at the last five minute mark, we could actually have actually pulled ahead even.
I know this is only the second weekend in January. But enough is enough. Today’s game simply confirms what we all agonized with but belatedly learn to accept, however grudgingly. Howland’s team this year is mediocre, erratic and inexplicably underachieves. For whatever reasons, he fails to mold his recruits into a competitive group.
TH's performance looked promissing
With the usual caveat that he needs to do more on offense. I haven’t looked at the boxscore yet, but I expect that he was again our leading rebounder.
Not much I can say about the rest of the team.
formerly bruinhoo
TH must become an offensive threat
For this team to move forward TH must contribute regularly on the offensive end. His rebounds are great, but I’m confused as to why he is struggling to add baskets. And he can’t even hit a FT. I honestly think if he has a breakout game, that we will finally see less of Bob. If he could connect at the FT line, I would think he should go to the basket routinely to draw fouls. He has that kind of length and athleticism.
Louisville, KY for UCLA class of '87
And why would the team play with any sense of urgency when Howland keeps playing guys thinking they will get "hot" from the 3 point line…..
This really does appear to be what the Howland is doing with GD. I don’t get it. It seems a very un-Howland like way of coaching.
Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info
Did not get to watch the game..
How in the world did we give up 23 TO’s? Was Stanford’s D that good or were we just
playing horribly as we also do after an inspiring win?
Go Bruins!
we were playing that badly
formerly bruinhoo
by Patroclus on Jan 9, 2010 6:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
well
we don’t have a point guard… it all starts with the PG and we simply don’t have one. same stuff different game. penetrate and get caught in the air, turnover.. it happens at least five times a game… we can only hope that next year we get bigger and stronger and smarter. We need AA, DC, the prince and other warriors to come and give a speech and make these guys realize its not ok to smile and laugh at the end of a game when your down by ten points about to lose. That pissed me off when I saw RN and bobo on the bench. pfff
Look how we played in pre-season...
If you told us then that we’d split the bay area trip we’d all be happy. Yes we need work, but lighten up folks!
Not satisfactory
For UCLA basketball. Not even close. It’s not the losing, it’s how we lose. I’d rather be 0-16 at this point with a true effort and focus than watching this joke of a team.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jan 9, 2010 7:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
We didn't deserve to win tonight
It might have felt good had we split in the Bay Area, but the quality of play by the Bruins, especially in the second half, was a disgrace. We had tons of errant passes, sloppy dribbles, missed defensive assignments, and, as usual, missed FTs. If we had won, the victory would have been fool’s gold. Stanford isn’t that great a team, but considering how incompetent we looked, the Cardinal deserved the victory.
Usually this game brings anticipation or dread in the way great rivalries do, but this time it felt empty. During the past decade or so, the games at Stanford have featured epic battles with players like Jacobsen, the Lopez twins, Knight, Madsen, etc., and our beloved Ben Ball Warriors plus earlier stars. Tonight’s game felt like watching “scabs” take the field during the NFL strike. Our team must get dramatically better or even the victories will feel cheap. When skilled players like MR let balls bounce off their heads, the whole team needs to get its act together.
If you ratchet your expectations back to where they really should be ...
there were at least a few incremental positives this game that weren’t there the previous few Saturdays. Anderson is still not a Pac-10-calibur starting PG, but has definitely improved a bunch since the State school losses. TH is a monster (statistically, not stylistically) on the boards. Nelson continues to develop and plays with attitude and tenacity for a true freshman. Bobo was not completely retarded out there – and hit nothing but net on those FTs – how many other kids on this team can go 2-2 at the stripe in any fashion? Roll F-ed up a bunch today, but if he were still as one-dimensional as he was the last 3 years, we’d be in much worse shape. He is not – and he’s the closest thing we have to a leader.
These kids are still young and last year’s class is still disappointing. But, I thought we had all accepted this season was a complete – i mean complete – reclamation project – of historical proportions – for better or worse, so right now it’s best to really accept that we will lose most games and that we need to focus on incremental improvements – whether or not we feel we deserve such a miserable fate. We stayed close for 35 minutes on the road – that’s the best you can expect for a while. It’s gut-wrenching and disappointing to live through, but I, for one, think we have the pieces in place (including next year’s recruits) to be near the top of the Pac next season.
My expectations were pretty reasonable to begin the season
I will be somewhat accepting of a winning season. However, a losing one … will not be acceptable. A losing season will never be acceptable in Westwood. This is not the place that will be ok with it.
Could just be the bud-light talking
but I say we win more than we lose (barely) this season. Half the TOs and >65% FT shooting and even with everything else being the same, we could, in theory, pull out a bunch of games in this conference this year.
This is a game we could have won had we played with focus and intensity.
In a game where we shot over 50% and won the battle of the boards 25/10, shot 70% from the line (but at least a couple of the misses were on the front end of 1 and 1’s — against a “weaker” team, we turned the ball over 23 times. Inexcusable.
Yet on this team, I see some talent and potential. I always feel we can win a game — if we just play well in all facets of it.
The turnovers? Simple. We don’t have an effective point guard — no surprise to anyone here. I don’t see an easy answer. ML had 7 TO’s and MR 5; understandable in a way — neither should be handling the ball as much as they’ve had to. RN had 4. I think that’s attributable to his lack of strength. Yes, he’s tough, but he’s young and has an immature body. At least once or twice a game he has the ball taken away from him.
There was a time this summer when sc’s BB team seemed to implode and people here were making fun of them.
They are better than expected and we are not.
We should beat them. We have the talent to beat them. All we have to do is play 2 consistent and strong halves.
We had some glimmers of hope in the first half. The rotation with the young guys on the floor, the front line with Bobo at the 5 and RN and BL in, actually played well.
I would have loved to see more of that in the second half. And, I’m curious as to why we didn’t.
If we can eliminate the turnovers, and stay where we are on shooting and the boards, victory will be ours.
sc is a rivalry game. I want it and I’m sure the team wants it. These kids know what the game is about, and I really think they will come to play.
sjh
I am not sure some of these kids care about "beating" SC
Lot of them didn’t show that urgency last time we played them.
Where's the talent?
Reeves Nelson is the only one who seems to play to win games. Honeycutt may be the other one who shows some promise. Everyone else has been screwing around this season, just like last season. I don’t expect them to really care about any rivalry since they haven’t cared enough in all the other games to win them.
"All we have to do is play 2 consistent and strong halves."
Therein lies the rub. We have yet to do that once yet this season.
by insomniacslounge on Jan 9, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
hmm
It’s true, the talent is so raw and we really look lost on offense and so rushed that our team throw’s most games away we should be ahead in or at least have a chance to win. Giving up, however is inexcusable, and like many here I have seen this team do that too many times this year. I can understand when your playing in a game and your team is making so many mistakes and you get so frustrated you just go through the motions, like Nestor has said before, that is something that won’t be tolerated here and those players need to sit on the bench if they are not giving their heart and soul when their on the court. Stanford is not a great team, but they have those go to guys on their team, we DO NOT. As Bryan said, this game did not feel special at all and that is very sad compared to games of the past. We need to keep getting better and hope that our guys soak up CBH’s knowledge and system. I BELIEVE!
Go Bruins
Interesting
The Times have a nice piece on UCLA, Howland gasp:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dwyre10-2010jan10,0,6309634.column
I just can't watch it anymore...
I do faithfully read your collective comments everyday, but having been a fan since ‘64, it’s just too painful to watch. I have tried (and I believe, succeeded) in lower my expectations to more reasonable levels, but this year’s team has just been destroying what little was left of the UCLA mystique I grew up with. Anyway, I will be a fan until the day I die, but it is very, very painful right now.
Thank heavens for UCLA football.
anyone got any other thoughts on individuals?
I couldn’t watch much of the game – looking after my wife after dental surgery – and caught a little on the feed. The following comments are based on the box score, and I was wondering if anyone who saw the game could corroborate or refute them? MSM reports didn’t have much on individual players, just on team turnovers.
From the box score it looks like TH had what is becoming a typical game – rebounding the ball well, more assists than turnovers, a few steals, but not shooting the ball at all. What is his deal offensively? Deferring too much, not getting into position to make a play, not a major part of the offensive gameplan?
Notwithstanding ND being the fire starter and setting a lackluster tone for the team’s poor first half (in which they trailed by 2 after a late prayer shot by Green) with his poor defense, offense and turnovers, it looks like he had a generally efficient offensive game in the box score (5-8 FGs, 2-3 3pt, 1-2 FT). It looks like he didn’t ‘shoot us out of the game’ with bricks from the outside, and that his defensive assignments were not putting up big points.
In contrast, ML looked like he had another pretty poor game offensively, took too many shots without making enough, and was sloppy with the ball (7 TOs); atypically, his man went off for 30 (including aforementioned 3-point prayer to end the 1st half). Since being appointed our starting PG, he is 6-17 FGs, 0-7 3pt, with 10 assists and 11 turnovers. It seems that TH clearly offers more to the team in his all round play than JA, but this effect on our team seems to be offset in large part by ML’s decreased effectiveness offensively. I know everyone is happy with TH in the starting lineup (and I think bringing JA off the bench is benefiticial to JA as well), but are we looking better offensively for it?

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