Tiny Glimmers: Nuggets for UCLA Fans Who Want To Fantasize About Thursday Night
I think we have established pretty well at this point that the Bruins do not have a prayer against the Oregon Ducks on Thursday night. It has gotten so bad for UCLA that the coaches have been reduced to cherry picking posts from message boards to fire up our Bruins:
[Bruins are] itching to get on the field, especially after the UCLA coaching staff displayed a sampling of some message board chatter the past few days.
"People were talking bad about us," Moore said. "Saying stuff like the score was going to be 59-10, and some of our fans were happy we didn't play this weekend because we would have lost to anyone.
Sorry Rahim. Love you man, but we doubt that trick is going to work. You are going to get destroyed on Thursday night.
No offense to Rahim Moore and all our other guys (and I find them all of them generally to be really likable kids who are easy to root for), if that is what takes to get them all fired up, we have issues. I mean things are so bleak in the short term (at least for this game week) that I don't think it is necessary to do our customary dread thread that worked well for two out of our last three games.
Nothing we are going to do in the mojo department is going to help our Bruins. They are going to get slaughtered. I don't blame Oregon fans sounding supremely confident and looking ahead to Southern Cal and other games on their schedule. That said I do want to share some nuggets (only for those who want to engage in deluded fantasy) heading into Thursday night after the jump.
03rdn9 have been breaking down Oregon's amazing offense all through this week. He had already broken down the Duck offense in couple of posts here and here. We are all waiting to see if he can provide any answers for our Bruin defense in his upcoming post where he is going to break down UCLA's defense's chances against Chip Kelly's well oiled machine (gulp).
Before he does that though I think it is interesting to take a look how UCLA defense has performed against the Ducks in last couple of years:
- Last year the Bruins lost a heart breaker against the Ducks at the Rose Bowl. The final score was 10-24 in favor of the Ducks. Here is the box score. Of course the necessary caveat in analyzing this game is that the Ducks came in without Jeremiah Masoli and were really banged up. They had LaMichael James, who rushed for 152 yards in 20 carries. Still the score of the game doesn't indicate how close it really was. The UCLA defense had shut down the Ducks offense in the first half and if not for a feeble goal line offense, the Bruins would have been up a score of 10-0 at the half. Then Kenjon Barner (who might not be available this Thursday night) returned the opening kickoff in the second half for 100 yards, and the game completely got away from the Bruins. The Ducks had 303 yards of total offense and converted 4 of 14 3rd down conversions.
- Two years ago Bruin - during their last Autzen trip - Bruins (2-3) went in with Kevin Craft against a decent Ducks (4-2) team with Masoli at QB. The final score was 24-31 in favor the Ducks but it was also a dogfight with the Bruin closing in within 7 at the end of 3rd quarter (14-21). Here is the box score. Oregon piled up 323 yards of rushing (170 from Masol himself), however, the Bruin defense after a slow start (remember this was a Dewayne Walker coached D), held the Oregon offense in check limiting them to a total of 365 yards. The Ducks converted 2 of their 13 3rd down opportunities. I realize the 3rd down conversion stat. is a little deceptive given the amount of big plays they ran up on the Bruins, still it is pretty interesting to ponder given what transpired the following year at the Rose Bowl.
The common theme at both game was turnover/penalty issues for the Bruins. In 2008 after the Bruins had closed it within 7 and had the ball in 4th with a chance to tie it up, Craft threw a pick, which the Ducks converted to 3 points, taking back the momentum in that game. Last year after getting shell shocked by that Barner kickoff return, Kevin Prince promptly threw a pick 6 to Talmadge Jackson III, essentially changing the momentum of the entire game for good.
Those are interesting numbers indeed. However, before anyone gets their hope high here based on those glimmers, note there are couple - well actually three - huge pieces missing in this year's Bruin defense. We don't have Brian Price. We don't have ATV (who is already terrorizing NFL QBs). Plus we don't have Datone Jones who, two years ago had somewhat of a breakout game in Eugene.
That said, if the Bruin defense comes out and play disciplined football, which is to stay within their assignments, and do their best to keep LaMichael James, Darron Thomas, Jeff Maehl, David Paulson, D.J. Davis in contained space, they might have a shot at not getting blown out. Of course, that all sounds nice in theory, but it would also help if the Bruin offense with basically a brand new QB can help out the defense with ball control and almost mistake free football. The chance of all that happening is worse than this:
As always, I am more than happy to eat crow but I am not going to hold my breath waiting for some fantasy to come into fruition.
GO BRUINS.
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It is the consistent inconsistencies of UCLA football that keeps my hopes alive
why I do it to myself is beyond me but I cant help it, i would rather be optimistic than realistic I guess. It is just the way I was made
Go Bruins!
Hard to muster a post under the circumstances
The best I can come up with is that we beat Texas, which is not a terrible team, based on its defeat of No. 5 Nebraska last weekend. Anybody can beat anybody. My greatest stretch is that Oregon backed into the number 1 spot by not playing this week.
It is hard to ignore that Oregon also had a bye week, so they will come in strong, they are at home, and they ran over Stanford, which ran over us at home.
So, I will still be in front of the TV looking forward to watching my team, and hoping that unexpected happens. Go Bruins.
hard to believe Oregon will be taking us seriously
and Thursdays are the days that seem to throw up some pretty strange results – but normally in favour of a home underdog…
by britishbruin on Oct 19, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, I overstated that
but I think it’s a tough ask – when you are naturally up for a game, that’s one thing; when you are having to artificially generate enthusiasm it is tough to get it just right (sometimes you don’t get up enough, sometimes you try to overcompensate, etc). I don’t expect Oregon to be flat, but I expect them to be less than 100%. They also know that they have been down big to a much better team than us (Stanford) and come back to win going away…
by britishbruin on Oct 19, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Just like Texas, we'll have to catch them napping
And I’m not sure that that’s impossible. Oregon always starts off slow (were lucky to be tied 13-13 with Tennessee at the half, only led ASU 28-24 at the half, trailed Stanford 21-3 after a quarter and 31-24 at halftime) and then explodes in the second half. Maybe we just need some extra halftime motivation?
Texas game gives me hope (not much, but still)
It seems that some people around here have been quick to label Texas as overrated frauds after their losses to us and the (eighth-ranked) Oklahoma Sooners. Well, uh…they just beat Nebraska at Nebraska pretty easily, and are probably going to go 5-1 or even 6-0 the rest of the way and finish with 9-10 wins. This is not some 2005 Oklahoma or 2008 Tennessee scenario; it was a legitimate road win over a very good team. And that’s pretty much what we’ll need on Thursday. So it CAN happen.
For the record
We never dismissed Texas as “over-rated frauds.” Perhaps some ignorant commenters did that but who cares. I don’t think Texas is a top-10 team so in that sense they were probably a little over-rated as a top-5/7 team but they are still a very good team and will not be a surprise if they finish in the top-15 range.
line that I saw
is now at 26… the crazy optimist in me says we can be within 26 by the end of the game.
I feel like I just got punched in the gut
and had $5 imaginary electronic dollars taken from me at the same time…
by britishbruin on Oct 19, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruins trail 34-14 with 1:30 to go...
…and then on a stupid, desperate, attempting-to-save-some-face drive, Brehaut throws a pick six for the 27-point loss margin. Watch.
You know what that means?
Score was closer than it indicates? Btw accidentally deleted your response re my Texas comment. Sorry about that.
by Nestor on Oct 19, 2010 3:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I love that clip from Dumb and Dumber
I think I’ll just ignore the rest of the blog (with all due respect, Nestor). Just replaying that clip makes me feel good enough to accept that we’re going to get slaughtered while being able to laugh at the same time.
Love the "Dumb and Dumber" clip....
Sums up the UCLA fan’s “optimism” this week for Autzen. One positive for me is I feel like the Bruins won’t be overwhelmed by the raucous atmosphere in the stadium given their road warrior wins in similar venues this season & last. Unfortunately, I know they will be overwhelmed by the Oregon offense.
my positive
is that it prepares us better for a more important game in Seattle
by britishbruin on Oct 19, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the clip...
…but which one is supposed to be KP?
A Good Idea Now
Why don’t you list some of the miracle games in the Bruins’ recent history. It can help give us a belief that anything is possible to one who believes. “The one who wins is the one who thinks he can.” I just want them to look good on TV for the recruits we need to get. I guess a 6 win season and a post season game is a + now. Sad, but true.
It will take a good bit of research.
I will try to find them a few at a time.
1965 against $uc
4:28 to go in the 4th
down 6-16
Beban to Witcher….50+yds…..TD
Onside kick by Zimmerman, Stiles recovers
Beban to Altenberg…50+yds…..TD
26-16 final
Best 4 minutes of football in my life.
(Altenberg and Witcher could be juxtaposed)
LOL
Love Rahim (see avatar) but I’m not looking forward to this game. Hey, fans are pissed too. We’ve had to sit through our fair share of “No Shows” home and away.
Don't care for the negative talk
and vibes. All I know is that I love everything UCLA…I will root for this team no matter how bad it looks. I do think we have a chance in this game because despite what the record shows, UCLA has talent. Unfortunately, it’s young and inexperienced talent. When this team does the little things right and cuts down on mistakes, it wins. When the coaches let them run loose, they win. Sometimes you just have to let them be agressive and use their physical tools. In the wins, that has happened.
Sorry, Nestor
I know you’re the master of doom and gloom, but this isn’t going to be the slaughter that everyone thinks. Look, this is easily the most maddening team I’ve had to watch in recent memory because of the constant Jekyll and Hyde act. But for some reason we always play well with our backs against the wall. I can only hope some bounces go our way and we play fundamentally sound, because we haven’t seen much of either this year.
Call it naivete, idiotic optimism, delusion, or insanity…but I actually feel OK about this game. Low expectations seem to work for us.
Yeah, hooray hicalliber!
I feel good about this game too. I hope I still feel that way late Thursday night. GO BRUINS! BEAT Oregon!
by Forever a Bruin on Oct 19, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions
Here's two to start....
6. UCLA 20, Alabama 17, in 2001
This was by far the biggest road triumph during the decade, as the Bruins overcame a 10-0 Crimson Tide lead in front of a typically large and hostile SEC crowd in Tuscaloosa.
The defense came alive in sacking the Tide’s quarterback three times. DeShaun Foster ran for 110 yards, Cory Paus threw a 53 yard bomb for a touchdown to Tab Perry to silence the ’Bama faithful, and most significantly UCLA had no penalties or turnovers, the first and perhaps only time that has ever happened.
5. UCLA 35, Alabama 24, in 2000
After a disappointing 1999, the Bruins began the new millennium against a team that entered the season ranked third in the nation, coming off an SEC championship and a win in the Orange Bowl.
Led by DeShaun Foster’s 187 yards and three rushing touchdowns along with Freddie Mitchell’s 46 yard TD catch and a touchdown throw off an option play, Bob Toledo’s squad overcame a 71 yard punt return and a 91 yard interception return, both ending in scores, to get the victory as the defense forced three key turnovers.
You should start a new fanpost
And start a new thread asking everyone to chip in. Great start.
by Nestor on Oct 19, 2010 4:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
2 things jump out...
Great D with the sacks and turnovers and a RB who burned them. Both areas have been spotty up ’til now.
if it's going to be a slaughter
we might as well play everybody in uniform including freshmen, rotate fresh players in constantly, get them all seasoned, give every player a chance to prove themselves. It’s not like the first string is going to gain vast experience and become a precision unit by playing this entire game.
Things can go well, but...
My unrealistic hope is that a Bruin offense shows up for this game – the one that can run and throw. You know, the one we have yet to see. I’m not really hoping for the Texas game offense, because everybody in the Pac 10 has seen that now and will dare us to beat them by passing the ball.
I actually believe against all evidence that the defense will play well, but please, please, please give them some rest time with a few first downs! Go Bruins!
I'm a "relentless optimism" type of person
I’ve felt optimistic before all of our games, including the Texas one. But this game bums me out. I know our team has had the tendency to do the opposite of what we expect – I think this is the game where they finally meet our expectations. I suspect our offense is going to be further exposed and we will show that we haven’t really made much progress in the last few years offensively.
We can run on them
Tennessee, ASU, Stanford, and WSU all averaged more yards/carry against Oregon than their overall y/c. Pretty remarkable, considering every one of those teams had at least one FBS team to fatten up on.
Also, ASU put 42 points and 597 yards of offense on Oregon’s defense, by far more prolific (by at least 200 yards) than against any other FBS team they’ve played. And that 597 is more than ASU put on FCS teams Northern Arizona and Portland State.
If Brehaut can compete passes like he did vs. WSU, I think UCLA can run on Oregon. And if UCLA can run, they have a chance.
Agreed, Oregon is susceptible to the run...
but to beat them UCLA will need to both chew up the clock and score TD’s in the red zone when given the opportunity because the Ducks can flip a switch at any moment—no lead is safe. If UCLA gets one, they need to have the mindset of it being not enough. An OU commentator on the Rule of Tree blog recently commented about the Ducks fast paced practice routines—to the point that wind sprints and such are not necessary—and how the Ducks seem to get stronger as their opponents get weaker that has played out a lot this year. No TO’s and few penalties—especially false start/holding drive killers that put you in third and long. You and OU will have the nation’s attention—or at least college football fans around the nation ;) Good luck.
"It felt like a whole new beginning for us, bad memories left behind and a new horizon to build on. I got so worked up, I had a tattoo done my arm that said FAMOUS TIMES, and Edna bought a Bailey hat with an Indian feather band and a little turquoise-and-silver bracelet for Cheryl, and we made love on the seat of the car in the Quality Court parking lot just as the sun was burning up on the Snake River, and everything seemed then like the end of the rainbow."
--Richard Ford from the short story, "Rock Springs"
I plan to be glued to my TV and root for my Bruins this Saturday no matter how dismal things look!
(Let’s not disabuse the fishwrap U$C cheerleaders of the real date.)
Don't Bury Us Yet
Anything can happen on the field. If there is one thing about college football that is true, it’s that you cannot predict for the final outcome! The Bruins have a shot. Sure, right now I don’t think much of the head coach, the OC, or our illustrious QB. But i am still a bruin fan and I am always optomistic about our chances as long as the team has heart and a never-say- die spirit. I am not going to predict their demise before the game. GO BRUINS!!
anything can happen...
but … yes… i doubt it will…. oregon’s pretty damn good. and we’re…. well…. not. i just hope they save some points for next weekend against *$¢…
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
If you really believe this will be our 3rd nightmare in 7 games
how can you be satisfied with the progress of the team in the middle of CRN’s third year and how can you have blind faith in his coaching decisions? The bottom line is we should expect, indeed insist, that UCLA football teams compete with anybody.
This team dominated Texas on the road. It was no fluke. All the Pistol needs is a qb who can keep the ball on the option and/or pass the ball ten yards to keep the defense honest. When we’ve had that, we’ve won three games. When we haven’t, we’ve lost, terribly twice when our qb could not run or pass.
Even if CRN repeats the mistake of starting a wounded, out of rhythm Prince, we should see Brehaut and Bell early and often. This is good because they might play well enough to make our offense click and give us a chance and it’s time to get some momentum for next season, especially with game time experience for our backups, to get ready for that fourth year of CRN, breakout season. Prince has had 15/19 games to show what he can and can’t do.
It’s prime time on national television. Time to let the players play, be aggressive on defense and play to win. No guts, no glory.
GO BRUINS! DOMINATE THE DUCKIES!
Who the F is having "blind faith in coaching decisions"?
That’s a laughable premise to start off with considering the kind of posts that have gone up all season long. But to the other point: Dreading or expecting a bad game against the #1 team in the country in their stadium which is notoriously difficult to play in, where they’re coming off of a bye week, and where we had just performed poorly on the road against a lesser team, is not exactly an unfounded fear. Teeing off on the Cal game or the Stanford game as reasons to insert doubts about the coaching staff is one thing. Denying the reality about the opponent we’re about to face is the only example of blind faith I can see around here.
"All the Pistol needs"
You crack me up. When you find that perfect QB on our roster, please inform the rest of us!
The funny thing is, you say that all this offense needs is that QB, and yet you still blame CRN for the poor games. So which is it?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
uclahy is growing on me
His takes me let me live in a different world (and it all changes week to week). lol
I just got back from the future...
Man it was a close one but we won this game… You’ll see come Thursday and you will all be believers of time travel…
I'm a believer of mushrooms and LSD
Tell you what, can you lend me a hundred grand? I’ll pay you back double on Friday, honest! All I have to do is bet on UCLA, right?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

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