Spaulding Roundup: "Cleared" Prince, Depth Chart Tweaks & Other UCLA Notes
Let's start our Tuesday by checking in with our QB situation (the routine is getting old). It appears that our medical staff has "cleared" Kevin Prince to "resume practice":
UCLA quarterback Kevin Prince has been cleared by medical staff to resume practice this week and will be the starter Saturday against California if his injured right knee allows, coach Rick Neuheisel said Monday.
"My thought is he'll be ready to go," Neuheisel said.
That is certainly good news. If the Bruins were to have any shot of pulling off an upset this weekend (we are 8 point underdogs as I write this post) they are going to need a healthy Prince who has been in practice rhythm all week. More from the LA Times:
Bruins coaches were waiting to see whether Prince was healthy enough to run with the ball and are now convinced. Prince said Monday the swelling in his right knee had subsided and that he was "fine."
Fingers crossed again for Prince's health not just for rest of this week but the entire season. Don't forget Prince actually had an okay game against the Bears last year racking up his first 300 yard passing game of his career. Don't get too excited though. Prince did throw a costly pick 6 that decided the game plus there is also this: Bears have a brand new defensive coordinator in Clancy Pendargast. Reading through his impressive resume, it becomes pretty clear that he is no Chuck Bullough.
Everyone has been talking about how Pendargast's D got worked over by the Wolfpacks. To me what is noteworthy is that the Bears have given up only 6.7 yards rushing in the other three games, holding their opponent to 62.7 rushing yards per game. Can the Bruin rushing attack have the same level of success against the Bears like it enjoyed against the Longhorns? Don't really think so, considering unlike the Longhorns, the Bears have already had a first go around with the "pistol" template and have had two full weeks to prepare for the Bruins. More after the jump.
Bruins released their depth chart for this week. Brandon Huffman posted it over at Bruin Report Online. Normally don't really pay attention to the weekly depth chart all that much but this week is kind of interesting. Owamagbe Odighizuwa is now listed as a starter at left DE (ahead of Reginald Stokes). Keenan Graham is listed as the other starter at RDE (ahead of Damien Holmes). These two guys along with rest of front-7 are going to have huge roles to play this Saturday in their attempt to contain Shane Vereen and put some semblance of pressure on Kevin Riley.
If our defensive front-7 cannot handle Vereen and can't disrupt Riley by either generating some TOs or getting some sacks, it is going to be a long day for us. Reading through the comments on BN, I got the vibe that people are discounting him based on his inconsistent performance through his career. Apparently Jon Wilner from the San Jose Mercury News is not high on Riley:
The Bruins have only been running the pistol for six months. They aren't nearly as adept as Nevada and have nobody as devastating as Colin Kaepernick.
But their offensive line was physical enough to dominate Texas, and their secondary is more than equipped to handle Cal's sputtering passing game, allowing them to stack the line to contain Shane Vereen.
Uh somehow Bullough forgot to stack the line against Daniel Thomas and Kansas State in the second half in Manhattan. So I wonder if that light bulb will go on this weekend. Plus, what also really worries me is Riley has done just fine against Bullough's base defense. Last year he completed 60 percent of his passes, throwing for 3 TDs and no picks. He actually PWNed ATV on number of throws last season at the Rose Bowl. He is the kind of QB who usually gets to enjoy a lovely time against a week rush from our D and pick us apart. Anyway, for another precursory look at the Bears check out ESPNLA.
Going back to the depth chart at this point Nelson Rosario is listed as starter at SE ahead of Randall Carroll and Jerry Johnson. I am guessing and HOPING we will get to see lot more of Jerry Johnson and some Carroll this weekend. Similarly would like to see more and more of Josh Smith and Ricky Marvray at the expense of Taylor Embree, who frankly has not been getting it done, as we approach the midpoint of 2010 season.
Interesting, as we talk about depth chart (and assuming the competition that is taking place and being analyzed at Spaulding), CRN had to say this about his QBs:
"When guys are playing well, people respond," Neuhesiel said. "Because of the way Richard played Kevin will be more excited to go back in there, and Richard will be more excited to go back in there. That kind of competition raises the level for everyone."
As for Prince, he will practice this week and all signs point to him playing Saturday at Cal. However, the Bruins plan to ease him into his workload.
"We want to be careful we don't overwork him but my thought is he'll be ready to go," Neuhesiel said
Hopefully it's not just Prince, but the entire team is practicing with a sense of urgency this week.
GO BRUINS.
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Obviously the coaches (and Nestor) think otherwise, but it doesn’t seem to me the Bruins lose much when they swap Prince for Brehaut. After all, last weekend Brehaut guided the team to a 42-point performance. True, that was against WSU, but at this point in their development neither Prince nor Brehaut is on a level with several other QBs in the conference. Prince is the better runner, but not by much (the stats show they have similar speed). Brehaut is the better passer. Either one of them can move the Bruins’ offense thanks to the Filthy Five, JF and DC. The key to the game is more likely to be the defense. That and TOs and what I’ll call “the breaks” (i.e., officials’ calls). Should be a great game!
There is a reason coaches prefer Prince
As we heard during the WSU broadcast, the coaching staff had to water down the pistol offense for Brehaut because he doesn’t know the playbook as well as Prince. Maybe the physical tools are about the same between Prince and Brehaut…maybe. But Prince has more experience and knowledge. That tips the scale in favor of Prince for the foreseeable future.
RB
The drop off was huge. Prince in the flow of the game is far better than RB at this point and time. We won that game because of an incredible running game against a team that can’t guard the pass.
RB against a good defense is still going to get crushed. Not ready yet. Functional as a backup yes, starter no. Prince needs to stay healthy.
Heavy Lies The Crown
The main thing Brehaut lacks is game experience. I seem to see more in him than anyone else does. Let’s hope I’m right, because if Prince’s injury history presages his injury future, we’ll be seeing a lot of Brehaut. Then again, the issue of who runs the O won’t really matter unless the D steps up bigtime, especially the secondary. Never mind Cal, imagine what Oregon will do to us, to say nothing of Jake Locker.
What exactly do you see in him?
He seems slow on is reads and his accuracy still needs work? Only plus seems like he hasn’t been hurt yet. We’re in the middle of the Pac-10, we can’t mess around getting RB up to snuff, Prince needs to healthy and ready to play.
Prince is our glass cannon, if he’s healthy still gives us the best shot.
O atm is an incredible asset with our running game. The more we run the ball, the more rested the D will be. Rest = ability to bring more pressure consistantly on D. CRN and Bullough will tweak the D, have a good feeling we’ll be pleseantly surprised with some adjustments to start the game. Now in game changes, goodluck guys :)
I think you're both forgetting an important consideration....
Prince + Practice is better than Brehaut to run this offense.
Prince + No Practice = Disaster Waiting to Happen. That’s been proven enough times over the past two years to show it’s no longer an aberration.
I see JF and DC
And I think Farmar and Collison, especially when they’re right next to each other.
But back to the topic, it was harder to see live than it is on TV, but it seems like Prince is better at deceiving the other team with what Millen during the UT game referred to as :“the cheese”. That alone gives him a big advantage in this offense.
agreed all around
our new JF/DC combo will soon be as legendary… so happy for DC this past weekend. i always thought malcolm jones would be the one to best wear down the D for JF, but i saw against wazzu what the staff must see in practice – DC was an absolute beast, and malcolm jones still seems hesitant…
and i totally agree about prince. i may have been wrong about DC, but i’ve been on prince’s bandwagon forever. a good friend of mine played at crespi with him, and that year he got hurt they lost to poly in the championship.
KP ran a similar style offense in high school, whereas RB is more of a dropback passer. it’s no surprise KP can make better reads at this point. and like you said, his fakes are a bit better too. he’s also a tad faster. RB can fit this system, but he’s not as fluid yet.
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
Cal and the Pistol
Yes, Cal may have been “worked over” but they’ve now seen it and had an off week to prepare for it. I think they’ll be ready.
I remain worried about Prince’s health — not just for this game but for the long run. And, I do not think Brehaut runs the offense as well as Prince does. (I may write my observations from the game in a “Random Thoughts” if I get time — and explain why I feel this way. Nothing against Brehaut, he got us a win, but I think Prince is the man for the pistol.)
Like many here, I think our big issues will be on the other side of the ball. Cal has enough offensive weapons that if we sit back and play bend and hope not to break we will, in fact, break.
sjh
keep in mind a few things...
cal got worked over without their stud linebacker. also it was a road game for them, and it was their first true test of the year (colorado and uc davis to start).
i agree our offense should be good enough. maybe not an 8.0 yard per rush average, just about 4. again, still possible to win.
our D needs to have a texasish performance.
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
Trying to find some differentiation between us and Nevada on offense
It’s obvious Prince is no Kaepernick, but what about the Filthy Five and the Franklin/Coleman combo? I think this may be an undervalued aspect of our offense when you compare us to the Wolfpack.
And about the FF: would they be as filthy in a pro-set offense?
Why was this DC hired?
Were there not better ones out there who wanted the job? I don’t get it. Was it $? I am not clear on this. His schemes and game coaching are so ineffective, except at TX.
Be fair and accurate
I have reservations about Bullough but to assert his scheme was only effective against Texas is not accurate. You seemed to have forgotten the Houston game already.
The problem I see with him..
Is the fact of his slow in-game adjustments. In the WSU game, the second half should have seen more blitzes and pressure, not the continued DB cushions that were burning us. 3 rushing giving the QB a lunch hour to throw.
That is fine
However, it was not fair on your part to suggest Bullough just had one great game this year. It’s ok to offer criticisms but don’t care much for observations that are just thrown up without providing accurate context.
I really like the change in DE rotation
It’s clear that Owa and Graham have significantly more raw talent than Stokes and Holmes. Unfortunately, we will experience rookie mistakes by them (I think Graham redshirted last year, didn’t he?). But I’ll take those mistakes over our front four consistently generating zero pressure. If by the end of the season these two can learn how to contain the perimeter as well, I’m confident we’ll have a dynamic duo for the forceable future.
Chuck B
I think Bullough is a capable DC who is basically trying to work with a bunch of young inexperienced guys. We have a handful of stars mixed with a handful of rookies. It doesn’t take much for the defense to get burned when we have inexerienced guys on the field.
Like some have said, if the defensive schemes are executed correctly, it should work. However if they are routinely not being executed correctly, should Chuck B change gameplans and start blitzing or try to get the D to execute the original gameplan?
I do agree that the in-game adjustments have been too slow. With a team like WSU, it would be a perfect time for Chuck B to be ultra aggressive, even right off the bat. We’re not good enough to play a base D an entire game, not even against a lowly team. If Chuck B can come to grips with that, our defensive scheme should always be either aggressive or super aggressive. The PAC is loaded with talented QB’s … we just have to knock them down more often ;)
In defense of the defense
I’m not saying that we have an awesome defense, but I think we need to cut them a little slack.
1) They gave up points against Stanford and KSU because they were on the field for too long (the offense wasn’t clicking at that point, and there was a big TOP disparity)
2) They have 14 sacks, good for 9th in the country
3) This is still a young and relatively inexperienced unit. I think it’s too much to ask them to be the number #1 defense in the conference at this moment. We need to be patient.
But against WSU?
Your points are valid. 3 thoughts…
- Against Stanford and KSU, yes. But this is WSU we’re talking about here.
- If it weren’t for a couple of 3rd and long bombs that were caught & the pass interference calls, our defensive probably would have looked fine. I guess you can say that about most any game though.
- I think we all look back to 13-9 and remember the blitzing being so effective and expect that to work anytime we want it to.
Yes, WSU was not a good game for the D
The long bombs reminded me of the ND game from 2006, which, to me, makes your third point of the 13-9 that much more valid – same defensive unit, two different schemes (well, the schemes were identical aside from the last drive against ND), and two different results…
Not to mention
1) They gave up points against Stanford and KSU because they were on the field for too long (the offense wasn’t clicking at that point, and there was a big TOP disparity)
The offense was running the no huddle and compounding the problem.
im pretty excited to see Owa
I’ve been itching to see this kid get extensive minutes and do some damage. Let’s hope he can take some attention away Ayers.
+1
and no personal fouls, phantom or other.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Cal's DC
In his resume, it says his D’s had the most turnovers caused in the NFL. That was an earlier issue with us, but now seems to be less of one. It could raise its head again if they do not pay extra attention to that. Your post placed criticism of Bullough in the WSU game. I was agreeing with it. The team on the field plays the game and not him, but he is there to provide in game change of strategy when necessary.
But it was Bullough's call
that made the corners sit 12-15 yards off the ball on 3rd and 2.
After the Wazzu game, CRN said something that really stuck out to me regarding the upcoming game against Cal.
It went something like, “If we are who we say we are, these are the types of games that we need to win.”
Cal has been a mid to upper tier PAC 10 team for a while. They are talented, well coached, and will be at home this week after a bye. I do not expect a win, but I really like CRN’s attitude. He is challenging his team to go out and win a game that they are not expected to win.
What does the team say they are? CRN has been declaring since the media day that he wants his team to be able to compete for the PAC 10 championship. In order to do so, you have to be able to win games like the upcoming game vs. Cal.
I am not delusional about this year’s squad. A new offense (which happens to be one of my favorites and makes me giddy just watching because I’ve secretly hoped that it would be implemented for years) was installed over the offseason and there will undoubtedly be hiccups. We have had immensely talented incoming recruiting classes over the past couple of years, but they are still green and filling a serious talent vacuum left by the previous administration. To date, we lost one out of conference game I expected to win, won one out of conference game I expected to lose, and won one out of conference that I thought was a tossup before I watched and realized that I should have expected to win. We were blown out by a conference opponent after losing confidence due to an inability to move the ball, and we beat a conference opponent after regaining confidence that was lost due to the inability to stop the ball. Simply put, our team is young and inconsistent.
Despite the youth and inconsistency, I see a confident team for the first time in a while. Over the first two years, CRN was content with hanging around. The scores were held closer than I often expected, but besides the games vs. Tennessee, the outcomes were essentially as predicted. CRN’s statement, to me, means that the team thinks they can go out and win the games they shouldn’t.
I can’t wait for this weekend.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Oct 5, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions
I think the quote
was from a video clip…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
What I think
Is the fact that although we are running a pistol scheme offense like Nevada, we have completely different mentality in terms of what we want to do on the field. Nevada is all about putting up ridiculous numbers in a kind of flashy way, while we have been running and smashing and tiring the other Defense out by the 4th quarter.
I have been trying hard
to develop some sort of feel for this game, studying Cal’s stats, game notes and so forth, without really being able to come to much of a conclusion. They lost a shoot-out at Nevada, then held Arizona to one late-game touchdown, while not putting up a TD themselves. Their stats are much influenced by extremes and not of much use to us. I do remember how they exploited our defense last year, and thought that they had scouted us perfectly, to the point that they completely understood what we did, could do, and would do. Of course, I don’t really know that, but we are significantly different on D this year anyway. My take on our Washington State performance is that we experienced a drop off in energy and focus from the Texas thing, and I think that applies not only to the players but to the coaches as well. I know, more unsupported theorizing, but these levels do vary from week to week. That is observable. Cal has had the bye week, and needed it. No doubt they have been able to forget two losses and concentrate on the task at hand, so they should be at a high level. We survived WSU and did well enough to win, racking up a lot of yards. The D made a couple of mighty stands and that was enough. I think we will be on an upward curve this week and should perform well at Cal. This will be a true test of our pistol, and I am glad that Prince will be back, since he is crisper and more authoritative than Brehaut, in my view. Nothing against Brehaut, who did well in his first real chance. I am counting on Riley having a couple of poor series, at least. He is an up and down performer. So I think we are going to do well and that ball control, aided by some improved passing, will prevail. The D has to regain some physicality and start “flying around,” in the words of Akeem.
Fears and expectations
My only real fear with Prince are the really poor interceptions he threw last year against Cal, Oregon and SUC. They were all game killers. 2, 2 and 1 IIRC. This year, though still out of rhythm and inconsistent so far, he has avoided those types. So, if we stick to running the pistol like the past three weeks, with the pass just the spice and the surprise, I think we’re fine on offense: 38.
The defense is a mystery because I don’t know which CB is showing up. CRN says he wants to vary the defense to make it more confusing. That’s risky, but not nearly as risky as the vanilla, three rush nickel that is our defensive game killer. If we let our young players play, and take risks to pressure Riley, I think he folds. If not, it’s WSU all over again. I say the former: 17.
GO BRUINS!
Well, good news....
Prince probably won’t be asked to thow but 12-15 times per game, so I think the chance of back-breaking interceptions is somewhat limited.
Now, as for back-breaking fumbles….
Honestly, though – the offense this year is much more suited to Prince’s passing skills this year, insofar as the offense won’t ask him to do much passing the ball. His job is to make the right reads on the handoff in the pistol and use his lega as a weapon when he can. When the D stacks the box, he needs to hit receivers on curls and outs for 8-10 yard games to keep the D honest.
They’re the easiest passes in the world to complete; at least when comparing them to passes in other systems.
Which relates directly to my main point:
Prince doesn’t get adequate practice time because he is injury-prone. His impressive injury credentials extend back to high school. Everybody is praying Prince can play Saturday and in the weeks to come, whereas I see it as almost a certainty that he will get injured (again) and then Brehaut will be our guy, like it or not. That may seem pessimistic, but if you’re driving a car that’s prone to breakdowns, it makes sense to have a second car and to keep it in good running condition. Prince’s inability to play vs. WSU was a blessing in disguise. It gave Brehaut game experience he never would have had if the coaches hadn’t been forced to use him.
Well
You can’t not play a guy just because he might get hurt. Prince will play until he can’t. If he manages to avoid injuries, he’s the better QB for this offense.
You’re not really saying anything other than that in your comment if I’m not mistaken. I agree that it was good for Brehaut to get experience. Aside from that, there is nothing else to do but hope for Prince to stay healthy.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Get out of the box
If I had a fragile QB, I wouldn’t let my backup collect cobwebs on the sidelines until I was forced to use him. I’d like the coaches to pick spots for Brehaut. The team seems to have confidence in both QBs. Use them both. Being a little creative and/or unorthodox wouldn’t hurt Neuheisel & Co. I mean, this is football we’re doing here, not anti-terrorism.
I get what you're saying
but it doesn’t work. It hasn’t worked for any team except Florida, and that was with a stacked team and a crazy athlete like Tebow.
It doesn’t work because there already isn’t enough time to practice, so game experience is crucial. I am sure if we had a nice comfortable lead, Brehaut would come in to finish the game and get some solid series. We just don’t have the kind of opponent this year where that is going to be possible. Every game is going to be a battle and I don’t think there is room for what you are envisioning, especially because it would throw off the rhythm.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Your points are all valid
but the alternative (i.e., the status quo) is to ride Prince until he drops and then bring in a guy who has had only slightly more game time than you or I have. Doesn’t seem like a logical plan to me. Not enough practice time? I suspect that the game has gotten too complicated for its own good. You could probably cut the play book in half without losing anything. All I am saying, really, is that instead of praying that Prince doesn’t get injured, it would make more sense to prepare for that possibility.
Yeah
I do think they have tried to prepare as much as possible without actually splitting reps in practice and in games. But ironically, the fact that Brehaut pretty much got all the reps in Fall camp turns out to be an advantage. He has that going for him, plus reps last week, plus a whole game as a starter. That’s pretty good preparation!
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

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