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Thought this might be of interest to the football soccer fans on BN. And, in general, what a mess has been made of one of the traditional powers.

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Read about it this am

bb … what’s vibe among Liverpool fans on this?

by Nestor on Oct 6, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Just speaking as a US-based Reds fan

I’m not expecting anything quick, but I’m praying it gets done.

Hicks, being true to idiotic form, as well as Gillett, will tie this up in court as long as they can since they don’t get any money if the sale goes down as currently reported.

Even if it goes down all right, I’m going to be wary of any owner until I see some action taken. Hicks and Gillett came in with big promises as well and the club has gone into a downward spiral since.

RIP Coach Wooden (1910-2010).

by BigKahunaMan on Oct 6, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

The question I have

Is whether the new owner will give this club the same care and priority he gives to the Red Sox. It’s def. an interesting situation. Fascinating how the world of pro sports are becoming so intertwined globally.

by Nestor on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Well, this will give me good reason to root against Liverpool I guess.

UCLA '08

by BruinTrouble on Oct 6, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm kind of conflicted now

As an Angels fan I loathe the Red Sox, but if John Henry can keep his promises re Liverpool, I may have to upgrade him at least to a ’’meh."

RIP Coach Wooden (1910-2010).

by BigKahunaMan on Oct 6, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Liverpool fans are going to unfairly

be upset with Henry and Co. because they are Americans. After a bit of time, when the new ownership can prove that they know what they’re doing, the supporters will come around, but it’ll be a tough go in the early going. Getting proven sports owners, getting rid of the debt and having the ability to go forward A) buying a couple much-needed players and B) moving forward on their new stadium, will do Liverpool a world of good.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 6, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn

As a life-long United supporter, I was hoping to enjoy the continued suffering at Anfield. F**k the Scousers!

How’s that Europa League thing working out for you all? :)

by Bellerophon on Oct 6, 2010 6:10 PM PDT reply actions  

interesting

This is an interesting move. I am curious to see if the Henry group are businessmen 1st or not. They are making a play at Liverpool at an apparent bargain price. They also are sitting on a baseball team they could probably sell for a fortune.

The other end is it costs serious money to compete for the top of the table in England year in and year out which is the minimum a Liverpool fan would want. Most of these teams buying players are in the red financially on a yearly operating basis. Most of the wealthy owners expect to be and treat it like there fantasy teams. That being said Henry and co. could buy at this low run some operating expenses in the red, restore the team to prominence then sell for a heck of a profit if the sale goes through as is.

I don’t understand the legal matters involved here nor how long this could take, but the current owners are getting squeezed pretty hard. I presume they will push back just enough to not get totally hosed in the deal. I think the only way they sell sooner without the legal hassle is to up the ante personally.

What I do hope to happen is that they do care about Liverpool and thus drain the well on the Red Sox spending. That in turn will hopefully drive the Yankees overspending down some. Combine that with the McCourts hopefully getting run out of town and the Dodgers and hopefully Angels can an enjoy a little more even playing field in baseball. In the end go Sox owners.. may your spending be fruitful across the pond. I hope you win lots of trophies and run a huge operating expense at the same time!

by Penny2i on Oct 6, 2010 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel for the Reds

but it’s all about Chelsea on this side of the argument.

I am an Angels fan as well, but in terms of football operations in the EPL, it’s imperative that Liverpool is competitive. EPL must have the big four healthy to keep their league status intact.

Nevertheless, the demise of football in Europe is the MLS’ gain.

by UCLAngels on Oct 6, 2010 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

here is a look at what it takes the new kids to compete

Man City is the new rising team spending tons of cash. Following up recently new spenders Chelsea. It’s obviously pushing the traditional big 4 to spend much more and be patient much less than they use to.

Man Utd who are the Yankees of the EPL that have recently finally tightened up their purse strings dramatically and are now aiming to develop their youth players around a few big dogs now. They also happen to be owned by their own hated American owners, who have been accused of essentially leveraging the team to essentially embezzle away a fortune for their own needs.

Needless to say it’s a good example in my opinion of what the MLB should do their best to avoid. The lessers in Europe are supported only because their passion is ridiculous. Baseball has totally tanked a generation of fans already in many cities. I don’t think the league survives with the haves and have nots they way Europe is set up at all.

by Penny2i on Oct 6, 2010 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's see how European football finances look in a few years

When UEFA’s financial regulations go into effect. Wages are the biggest killer to a team’s finances, much more so than transfer fees. That’s how despite spending on transfers for years now, Spurs manage to make a profit nearly every year. They have a strict wage structure and it’s worked out fine for them. If the UEFA regulations cut out ridiculous wages like Yaya Toure’s £200,000, things will become much more sensible.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 6, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Evening the field

It’s difficult to imagine parity in the EPL, La Liga or Serie A.

There have been talks in Europe of adopting the MLS’ salary structure. Though NY, LA and Seattle are perceived to be prized franchises, smaller market teams can compete financially for players. Though with that type of parity, it’s another story to attract stars to play for a team in Columbus, Kansas or smaller market teams.

I am really disgusted by how spoiled players are in Europe. When I started getting into football/soccer, I couldn’t believe how much power a player has over his salary (Robinho, Tevez). Teams are overspending on a single player, banking on the name of the franchise – essentially, leveraging the future of the franchise for money they can never recover from traditional revenue streams. I will not lose sleep if European leagues collapse under the weight of mismanagement.

by UCLAngels on Oct 6, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It won't lead to absolute parity

because teams will be limited to spending what they make and the big clubs will always make more and be able to pay more. What it will do is keep teams like City from having a roster of 30 quality players or the ridiculous wages that an average player is getting now. The top players will still be getting £150,000 a week from the big clubs, but when you take a look at someone like James Milner, City won’t be able to pay him a ton of money so Villa really don’t have a chance in hell at keeping him. Teams like Spurs will have a chance to keep Gareth Bale instead of having him go the way of Michael Carrick. It won’t completely level the field, but it will give the mid-table teams a fighting chance.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 6, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That model makes sense

Chelsea will still be one of the big four :)

by UCLAngels on Oct 6, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

it makes Liverpool an attractive purchasing opportunity

Chance to leverage a still-recognizable brand, without having to overpay players to keep up with whims of Billionaire owners.

Further OT – whenever I see this ad I always think of Abramovich.

And nice shoutout for my mid-table-sort-of-contending-for-Europe-but-not-really-rich-enough team, Ry :-)

by britishbruin on Oct 7, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he'd thicken up that beard a bit

he’d look just like Stephen Ireland.

Spurs get lots of shoutouts from me because I’m a fan. I just threw Villa in there because the whole Milner saga still makes me laugh.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 7, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

first they bought Gareth Barry... then James Milner...

it’s like whoever scouts midfield players for them is unwilling to venture south of Birmingham…

by britishbruin on Oct 7, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

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