Bruins Melt Down & Implode In Seattle
by Nestor on Nov 18, 2010 7:57 PM PST
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PrintNot sure what else can we really say right now. The game is still going on but it is over. UCLA is about to go down to Washington in Seattle in perhaps the ugliest and most disheartening loss during Rick Neuheisel's tenure as the head coach of the Bruins. The final score in favor of Washington was 24-7. You can check the box score will be up here. It could have been lot uglier as the Huskies kept killing themselves with penalties all night long.
With about 10 days to prepare for the most important game of the season Norm Chow's offense put together perhaps the most putrid performance in what has been a massively disappointing and underachieving season (to date). Against one of the worst defense in the conference Bruins got off to a decent start in the first half by putting together a 92 yard drive to go up 7-0. Since then though the offense went into a conservative shell was thoroughly bottled up by a well prepared Husky defense (which didn't have to work too hard to prepare for Chow's 5 plays including head-scratcher 3rd down passes to Corey Harkey).
I'd give Bruin defense some credit for keeping us in the game because they kept us in the game. However, I can't because it could have been really ugly for Chuck Bullough's unit if not for the bad Husky penalties that kept negating huge gashing runs by Chris Polk. Plus they were taking on a team that was playing with hurt QB with cracked ribs.
The special team was also a total disaster with missed FGs and ugly punt returns. The whole team imploded once again on national TV embarrassing themselves and embarrassing the four letters. Yes, there are injury issues with this team. Yes, we are young (an excuse that seems to be in play in Westwood every year). Yes, we went to a back up. Yet, there are just no justification for how clueless, how out of sync, how unprepared and undisciplined this team looked with the season on the line. This was not the first time we experienced this kind of implosion this season and it is very difficult to take.
We have said since the Oregon game the careers of the entire coaching staff are going to be in line for this season. Tonight's game was a huge test and needless to say everyone FAILED in spectacular fashion. I guess the season is not over. We have two games left and still a "technical shot" at a bowl game. However, this team needs to forget all of that and just needs to figure out how it can put together a performance based on fundamentals.
I don't really have a lot of analysis to add at this point of the night. There will be plenty of time for extended reflections taking in the big picture. I will leave the comments up to you. If you have extended thoughts and reflections, please put them in fanpost section. Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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Athletic Department
It is not just the coaching. We need some new leadership in the athletic department to turn things around.
Webster's dictionary defines depression as
Commenting in the ‘post-game’ thread with 4:24 left to play.
by Chris09 on Nov 18, 2010 8:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I can no longer give Rick the benefit of the doubt.
My assumption from now on is that he doesn’t deserve this job, and he’s going to have to prove he does.
I can just imagine the Rick N. Show on FSN right now....the script is being written....
CRN opens up and says the following “I love UCLA. The way we are playing right now hurts me more than anyone. We have to get back on the practice field and fix our mistakes. We have to work harder in practice to correct what is wrong. We are close to being where we want to be. We want to get back to the black tie affairs, and we aren’t really far. We just need to fix a few things. The gameplan was their, it was in place. We just didn’t execute. But we are getting there, just have faith UCLA fans……..we aren’t that far away. Stay the course, and don’t lose faith in us…..we are getting there”. I am tired of empty promises. The only black tie affair we are going to is the funeral of our coaching staff. Instead, he should open up the show by saying “Our guys suck right now. Our game plan has sucked. We have failed to prepare our players and we have not held our players, nor ourselves, accountable for anything. We have tried to fix things, but at this point, I don’t know how to fix anything. We had 10 days to prepare for Washington and in those 10 days, we came up with a shitty gameplan”. A complete embarrassment!
Dan G - Please go on the record about the state of our Football program
Dying to hear your thoughts.
And this comes after another "good week of practice," right?
What would we look like after a bad week of practice?
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
I'm Just Sick Right Now...
So incredibly damned embarrassing.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 18, 2010 8:02 PM PST reply actions
you want to talk about injury....
freaking UW suffered injuries under a new and inexperienced coach…and look at them making steady progress…
Well ...
… UW’s making some progress, but the critics have been vocal in Seattle, as well. Our rebuild will take some time.
I think we need a new HC.
Sorry. I have felt that all season. He’s all hype and NC too.
No one gets off here
Coaches deserve all the blame you can throw their way. RB was horrendous, as was the rest of our revolving door of QBs. Receivers don’t fight for balls. Defense straight up can’t tackle to save their lives. Even Forbath can’t kick anymore.
No one gets off.
No. One.
I'm going to give Tunney the benefit of the doubt
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
The way we played tonight
no way do we deserve a bowl game.
Don't forget that we were up against one heckuva coach - that guy Sarkisssssssian.
Our offense had no chance against a team so highly ranked in every defensive statistic.
No, because Slimers is a major douche bag
That hack is probably jerking all 2 inches to this ass-kicking.
Simers can suck my plaschke
He’s the Steve Lavin of writing.
Just pathetic
I have officially moved into the “if CRN doesn’t fire Chow and Bullough and win 9 games next year, he’s done” camp.
This season should have been 6-6 at worst with a bowl game.
I’m not seeing improvement but stagnation and if it doesn’t get real better, real fast by next season, then it’ll be time to find us a whole new coaching staff.
10 days to prepare and this is what we get
just unacceptable.
Time to clean house.
by silverlakebruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions
For as bad a situation as he could have been put in...
Tunney is doing pretty damn well. He probably got as many snaps as I did this week.
Lawrence Ross
Why am I still watching this?
I need help.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
That one was a hands to the face
extra 5 yards
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
that one was a personal foul
you get an extra 5 points for that. I mean penalty yards.
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
3 pt spread...
and look at the score. and vs a bad team.Got to clean house.
Now I know why Dorrell could sleep well at night
He knew that he wouldn’t go down as the worst UCLA coach ever.
you didn't specify football
so, that was already assured.
this was very sad
i think CRN really quit on his players. this is his offense and strategy. i can’t understand changing quarterbacks so many times. just seems like he doesn’t care about the program. i don’t know what he can tell his players in the locker room except that this was totally the coaches loss. and that they need to go back to the drawing board. this is very sad…
Done done done!!
I was at UCLA when RN was there. And I had hope 3 years ago, who could rival the PC and SC karma across town. But I am done. RN and NC need to go. Bring back Toledo and some excitement and at least we had a shot.
RN continuing to meltdown and berate his QBs/players ont he sideline is an embarrassment. How do you expect your players to be composed when the coach melts down daily. Who would anyone want their kid to play for this guy.
It is time to move on….oh no let’s give him and NC another year, maybe next year we can run the AK47, or the Squirt Gun Offense.
UGH!!!
Can We Dig Up Tommy Prothro?
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 18, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Get me a shovel
I am so angry, I’ll dig him up while you guys blog.
by peggysue69 on Nov 18, 2010 9:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
How about getting Axman as our OC?
I’m sure we can get him from Idaho…
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Neuheisal should become AD and talk a good coach into replacing him
His skills, such as they are, are publicity and relations skills. He is also ambitious and persuasive. Good for him. We could use that in our AD for a change. If we were still allowed to have a Bill Reese-like recruiting coordinator, he’d be good at that as well.
As for coaching, it’s pretty clear that when your program needs a complete overhaul of staff on both sides, it’s the head coach who needs to go. When has a great head coach EVER required a complete overhaul?
A Pac 10 championship, and only a pac 10 championship, should save his job next year. 9 wins is bullshit.
Impossible!
He can’t win a PAC-10 championship next year. He could win a PAC-12 championship, though.
Bleymaier and then go from there
Clean house…..bring in Gene Bleymaier and then go from there.
Wow. Zero for two.
Let’s see if you can come up with something not totally dumb.
Not hard to win 10+ games when you play a bunch of teams as crappy as us.
Bleymaier knows how to build a program and bring in quality individuals. Hey, it is a good place to start….come up with other options.
And it's easy to "build a program"...
…when you play in a joke kiddie conference.
What other sports is Boise State worth a shit in?
Yeah none.
Thanks and STFU.
Yeah, he's solely responsible for this one program
How convenient that you’ve ignored the fact he’s overseen our entire athletic department which succeeds in every other NCAA sport we compete in. Or have you forgotten how many national titles UCLA has brought to Westwood since DG took over?
Give me a break.
20 national championships since DG became AD
Per the official site.
by peggysue69 on Nov 18, 2010 10:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Making hires that are turning their programs from also ran's into national contenders
See John Savage and Nikki Caldwell.
formerly bruinhoo
Your softball team is badass ...
… and I’m saying that seriously. Watched a bunch, since there’s not much else on that time of year. Lawrie’s last year at UW, so plenty of interest in the NW. Bruins looked great at the WS.
he hired ben howland
who is respected by many as one of the premier college basketball coaches in the country.
You should consider yourself lucky that you don’t have an idiot like Mike Garrett running your athletic department
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 19, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
at an asking price probably only ~twice as much as we are willing to pay
and with a much worse current off-field rep than CRN, without being given some redemption points as a Bruin
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
He has serious personal issues
that is all I will say, but that is why he hasn’t been hired by anyone.
by silverlakebruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
speakin' of Personal Issues
How ’bout Mike Price? Post-game news conference at the Spearmint Rhino, anyone?
The Mad Bruin
Do you know something we don't?
I don’t accept BSPN’s reporting given their blatant conflict of interest
by Maverick_Bruin on Nov 18, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
I would trust silverlake on this one
There must be some reason he hasn’t been hired.
Besides, it’s asking for trouble to hire a coach BSPN hates.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Only if he promises
not to lock Westgate in the closet. Then again….
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Good Thing is
I don’t have to worry about Death or Taxes any more, since I don’t have to worry about Forbath.
Cal will kill UW at Bezerkely
as long as the Bears don’t suffer too many injuries.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
You guys are vultures
I know you took a tough loss, and I know it blows, but damn! chill out. I’ve never seen an angrier fan base on a blog.
Reason to be
That’s what happens when a once proud program has five years of Karl Dorrell, then three years of this.
If he wouldn't come to UCLA before, he's not coming now
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on Nov 18, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
Golden wants the Penn State job, he won’t go west. If we want an up-and-comer, Brady Hoke is our guy. Dude has the corpse of San Diego State kicking in only 2 years and turned Ball State into a solid program during his time there.
I’d prefer Mike Leach or Gus Malzahn though, I’m tired of watching this crap. If we’re gonna lose, let’s lose with some freaking points on the scoreboard.
The players quit
Because they know the coaches suck better than anybody.
This program is doa until tree is a housecleaning.
Worst humiliating losses in the history of UCLA football.
No excuses.
terrible tradeoff
we traded in 116th in rushing for 112th in passing. at least when you’re awful in rushing you can still gain a few yards on the ground if you need to. We couldn’t complete a pass!
UCLA would never do it......
but Mike Leach would be the guy to bring UCLA back. He has Texas ties, would bring in an offense that the fanbase would love, and the local LA recruits would flock to UCLA to play in that system. All that said……..it would never happen.
It could've happened twice already, if we cared about football
But we don’t. Thank God Washington bypassed him as well, or the score tonight would’ve burned out the scoreboard.
This is what the post game interview is going to look like
CRN: Well we had some bad passes, but looks like we gotta just work on some stuff this week. We’re a young team and we’re getting better. Yup we’re just gonna move on and pretend nothing happened. Toodle-loo.
Not the coaches...
this was pure lack of execution on the players part. Plays were there, just not executed.
Brehaut did not show up, Harkey dropped everything and the line did next to nothing.
Coaches can’t play the game. They can only tell the boys what to do, but if there is no execution, the play breaks down…plain and simple.
I get a real kick out of all the blame going to the coaches. Right!
Some credit should go to the Husky players, too. They simply wanted it more.
Coaches are responsible for execution
by Maverick_Bruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
No way...
that means you and I should be able to execute with the best coaches. No sale.
So you're saying RN recruited badly
Either way, he takes the blame
by Maverick_Bruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Coaches and players share the blame
That’s an easy concept, yes?
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on Nov 18, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Umm
Whose job is it to teach these guys how to execute?
Also, players have a tough time when the playcalling sucks balls dude.
Were you watching the Alabama game, Kevb?
Because your observation makes no sense at all with regard to the UCLA Washington game..
didn't see any of that game.
but, if Brehaut throws a catchable ball, or if Harkey catches a catchable ball, sticks move. It just wasn’t happening tonight.
Dude, Harkey has been dropping 3rd and short passes all year
Throwing the ball on 3rd and short to a guy who couldn’t catch a cold is not maximizing your personnel or putting your team in a position to succeed.
by bornagainbruin on Nov 19, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
The most effective thing UW did all night
was injure Brehaut.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Huh?
Brehaut wasn’t doing so great when he got hurt. Dealing with the backup and the backup’s backup probably helped UW a little, but I think UCLA’s defeat was inevitable by the time Brehaut went out.
3 point deficit
QB in that had previously led a TD drive. Yep, totally insurmountable.
UW sucked last night; UCLA was worse. Congrats.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 19, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
The coahces are responsible for preparing the players
These are all (mainly) 4 and 5 star recruits. They’ve had two plus years in the system. Pinning it on the players is a cop-out.
Which coaches though
I don’t think playcalling was to blame tonight.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
I have to disagree
Every single time we looked like we were going to hand off the ball, their linebackers would cheat up (move two or three steps forward). We did absolutely nothing to keep them honest.
Other teams have been daring us to not just throw the ball, but to take advantage of what they are giving us. And we aren’t even attempting to take advantage of what they are giving us. Other teams know this, and I think this is why it’s become more difficult to run the ball over the last few games.
by bornagainbruin on Nov 19, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
There were open receivers
QB’s weren’t hitting them or receivers were dropping passes. Hard to keep a team honest when you only have one weapon.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 19, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I agree that the balance of blame should be more even.
poor play & execution is at least partly on the players.
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see
how you could TRY to prepare a team worse than this. How is this NOT on the coaches? Lack of execution, fine, but they didn’t execute a TERRIBLE gameplan.
Pass
UW was giving up the short pass all night, stacking the box. There were uncovered receivers. UCLA insisted on running. I know you don’t have a great passer, but come on. There is somebody on that sideline that can throw a 10 yard pass to keep the defense honest. Maybe the lack of someone to catch the pass is the issue.
It was the coaches AND the players
Anyone who thinks one deserves blame over the other is out of their minds.
I blame coaching for putting Harkey in the positions he's in
Corey, God bless him, is not a College football Tight End. Move him to an OL/DL position, because watching him run a route is almost as brutal as watching him try to catch a ball. This is on the coaches for trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
New Rule
Chow can’t mention coaching Rivers, Detmer, Palmer, et al without mentioning Craft, Prince, Brehaut and now Bell.
UCLA is easily the worst team in the PAC right now.
WSU is at least improving. Frontpagers should vote UCLA #10 in the poll next week.
DID ANYONE SEE BREHAUT'S INJURY?
or was there some sort of incident between CRN and brehaut? he laid into him so wasn’t sure if it was just personal. i guess we will find out this week…
Took a shot to the head sliding
They took away his helmet…
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Mole in the program?
Our offense has been so bad, it makes me wonder…is Chow secretly still on U$C’s payroll?
Sigh.
Shoulder to the head on a late slide. Williams was coming in to take out the running QB, who slid at the last second. Penalty, fine. Cheap shot, probably not.
Funny... Ray Lewis and other NFL defensive players
have no problem avoiding the QB entirely on those types of plays, and they’re playing at a much faster pace with bigger bodies, which means probably less control over those moving bodies.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Am I crazy, or are we taking steps BACKWARD from the Dorrell era?
The state of UCLA football is utterly depressing right now. I want to keep giving Neuheisal et al the benefit of the doubt, but I just can’t do it anymore. This loss may be the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Terminate CRN!
Hey Nestor you can say that I am not a true fan or you can even ban me if you wish for my thoughts, but CRN has got to be fired immediately!!!!! This was a very winable game for us & we flat out gave it away!! Apart from giving away this game we again embarrassed ourselves on national television! We were clearly in control of a very inferior team & that stupid play calling in the 1st quarter gave them momentum & then let them get back in the game. CRN has had 3 excellent recruiting classes so this cannot be put on the players, this loss has to be put solely on the shoulders of the entire coaching staff.
No ban for that
I don’t think he should be fired immediately, but I don’t think folks who want a new HC aren’t off after a game like this. I think CRN should get a chance to turn it around, but if it doesn’t get fixed fast, it’s time to go in a new direction.
Nah
Venting is more than justified tonight. That game was unacceptable on many level. It is more than ok to vent (just make sure you are not cursing/insulting players and coaches).
sorry I cannot defend our sentiment for CRN
this was not the first embarrassment on national tv, not the second, is it the third? how many more times can we be embarrassed like this?
No debate there
Just annoyed when people start by pleading not to bring out the ban hammer, like we do it for fun or something.
Love the logic.
The inferior team stopped your offense cold. Your “control” lasted exactly one drive. I love how this must be “UCLA underperforming against inferior competition” instead of “UW outplaying UCLA”. Is it possible, maybe, that the opposing team just wanted it more? Was UCLA really doing so hot as to call UW an “inferior team”? Both are 4-6.
Hundley
It has to be. I’m sorry for pimping him so much, but we have to give him the keys, hopefully with a new offensive coordinator, and let him go to work. He will fail sometimes, but it can’t be worse than this.
It can if he gets injured
as happened to Brehaut tonight.
Luckily we’re not playing UW next year.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
But that would just put us back at square one. We need a playmaker on offense who can throw the football. And a coach that knows how to run the pistol. Brehaut can throw but not run, prince and bell can run but not throw. We need Hundley. I’m exasperated.
I have to throw up at any excuses for CRN
I am out, people.
Tomorrow is another day.
Maybe the coaches will have some integrity and quit for the good of the program.
Check the drive log.
Take out the 13 play 92 yard drive, and we had drives of 0, 5, 8, 1, 2, 9, 26, 21, 7, (-2), (-7), (-10) and (-9.) When the game was on the line, and (add cliches), our offense generated nothing. Those negative numbers were our fourth quarter drives. We had minus 28 yards in the fourth quarter.
I haven’t been this sick to my stomach since that Anita Bryant concert.
When did Brehaut get injured?
The backups were a joke.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Tunney can throw a football
Maybe no one caught it, but at least he looked dangerous going downfield.
You mean
“it isn’t just for breakfast anymore?”
The Mad Bruin
Misery loves company.
Thanks, BN. Peace and out.
email address
Dan Guerrero, Athletic Director dguerrero@athletics.ucla.edu
Glen Toth, Senior Associate Athletic Director gtoth@athletics.ucla.edu
Start emailing, let them know how you feel.
There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of performance.
email address
Dan Guerrero, Athletic Director dguerrero@athletics.ucla.edu
Glen Toth, Senior Associate Athletic Director gtoth@athletics.ucla.edu
Start emailing, let them know how you feel.
There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of performance.
Pretty simple what happened tonight
after the first drive, Washington just said eff it and stacked 8-9 in the box, leaving the WR’s on single coverage with no safety support. the Linebackers teed off on the run without fear of a playaction or a screen happening more than once every 30 plays… Our offense couldn’t or wouldn’t make the pass, especially when the pressure was on.
I was surprised that Bell was that bad, I heard some decent things out of his JuCo days (where “omg Masolli also played”!!!!!). I started sadly lol’ing when I saw our walk-on QB come on to spell Bell… jeezus what a clusterf$%k
Honestly, this should have been more like 28-7 but Washington was awful on 3rd downs, and when they converted they shot themselves in the foot.
and why did they stack....
because we couldn’t execute. we could have thrown deep after deep and they still would stack the box. No threat if there is no execution.
Now, this is not to say these guys can’t get better and I’m speaking of the youngins, but this year, the inexperienced are showing their lack of playing time
I would have liked to see one or two deep shots
even if they don’t work, they keep the Defense honest (somewhat) and Brehaut can make those passes… ah well.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
(Think Patrick Bateman trying to get a reservation at Dorsia in “American Psycho”).
by orlandobruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
we didn't get separation from our receivers even when we had set them up
with a billion straight run plays and had our 4th qb in.
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
So frustrated, so frustrated
That’s all I have to say.
Unacceptable
This is the final straw. I am so fed up with this crappy program that I think UCLA should drop football. What a joke we have become. It is so frustrating to watch. We supposedly have the athletes, but they are all a bunch of pansies. Our QB’s cannot make it thru a season without getting hurt, our D is weak and slow and our coaches have no clue. Cut our losses and drop this pathetic group of losers. They have no desire or heart.. They are an embarassment to the University. I have been a season ticket holder for 25 years and I am done with this crap.
Bruin 1986
JOff eh?
I’ll let B handle you for that.
But as for why “I’ve been a fan for X years” is annoying, it’s because you are not awarded special status for seniority here. If you have something to say, let the argument do the talking, because we’ve seen far too many instances around here of people thinking that their seniority as a fan is to be used as a shield from legitimate criticism of their ideas.
"I have never seen this team play"
Not building more credibility that way, either. Neither is calling a manager JOff.
Better apologize now…
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Sad, but true.
Natural selection needs help every now and then anyway.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Maybe you're onto something . . .
. . . as in maybe the fix to “Drop football” has been in for a long time? Let’s face it, the program has been lethargic for a decade now. A blip or glimmer here and there, but doldrums otherwise. Chancellor Carnesale was openly hostile toward football. AD Dalis screwed both money sports by locking up Greaseboy Lavin and the Dullard on multi year deals. The shady side of the stands are full of malcontents who may donate but spend most of the time in the seats grumbling (no match for the noise put up by the crazed fans and students in the sun) and we “don’t travel well” for bowls and haven’t for a long time.
Yeah, I’m disillusioned right now, and may sleep this rant off, but were someone out to kill the FB program in Westwood it is difficult to imagine them doing more damage than that which has been done since ’98’s pinnacle.
And my inner geezer keeps screaming “I’ve seen this before!! Rain! Seattle! Steve Bukich! Steve Bukich!” Thank God for Howland.
The Mad Bruin
Always excuses
But I just don’t think we are as talented as everyone wants to believe. I think the coaching is good. The players are trying. Sometimes you just lose. I bet OSU fans went all crazy on their page as well last week. Losing is tough. But we were playing our fourth string qb? You don’t win when that happens.
I think if Forbath makes the FG, the crowd stays quiet and we win. They stayed loud and we couldn’t stop them. That’s business. I hate to sound like a Cubs fan but… maybe next year.
by might on Nov 18, 2010 8:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You can't say the coaching is good if the talent is bad
when the coaches are the ones who bring in the talent
by Maverick_Bruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
If the players continually fail to execute, it’s the coaches that are not helping them improve. However, on a micro level, this level of execution by our players was unacceptable. The overall coaching has been unacceptable seemingly all season long.
but how much can one expect from second stringers
and freshmen?
Some of the biggest offenders tonight were first stringers
I’m looking specifically at our receivers, who have been awful all season long.
You think the Forbath FG ...
… was going to turn the tide? I know there’s no way to actually play out the scenario, but …. no. That FG would not have ignited your running game. That FG can’t catch a pass. That FG can’t tackle in space.
What tide?
It was 7-0 UCLA and UW had had 8 yards of offense and a turnover.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 19, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
People who are great at PR
Should go into sales. CRN is a great recruiter, and there’s a place in our organization for that, but a great PR person does not necessarily a great HC make. CRN has brought a lot of enthusiasm to the program, but the team needs to execute, and that’s all on the coaching staff.
It's funny because ...
… at Washington he was known as a great gameday coach. He had his teams, talented or not, fired up and playing at a high level.
What is really troubling
is that the outcome would have been similar even if Brehaut had remained in the game. Blame anyone you want, and you’d be right. But I don’t believe you can play D1 football with passers who can’t pass, receivers who can’t receive and pass blockers who can’t pass block. Everyone is going to stack the box, and if we can’t put together time-consuming drives and score, then our defense, which is not all that good against the run, is going to be exposed. So there we are, between a rock and a hard place. I do cut these coaches and players some slack, because of the incredible number of key injuries, but really, to be this bad, it’s too much.
I don't think it would've been 24-7
We would’ve had some shot at driving down the field with him in, and I don’t think there would’ve been the pick 6. There’s a good chance we wouldn’t have won, but it would’ve been closer.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Brehaut
Has shown he can pass. We were only down by 10 before our defense was simply exhausted. At least he could have strung some drives together to keep them more rested. He’s shown he can pass and make plays. We just were not prepared and executed horribly.
we were down 3
when Brehaut went out. Game could have had a different result, no question.
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
He wasn't effective so likely the score would have been ??-7. The only question is whether UW would have scored more
by 84 on Nov 18, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
not necessarily
we didn’t look like we were going to score, but if we don’t throw the pick-6 then we are still in the game and can still balance run and pass to an extent. Not saying it is likely we would have won, but the game was still (somewhat) in the balance.
by britishbruin on Nov 18, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just saying it didn't appear that the offense was capable of putting up any more points
I agree that it would have been more interesting as it is somewhat unlikely that Brehaut would have thrown the same two picks that Bell and Tunney did. Probably would have ended 10-7
by 84 on Nov 18, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Brehaut is not the solution -- he's part of the problem
I’m sorry he was hurt — but he was terrible before that.
We don’t have a Div I QB and it shows.
We may well have taken the wrong guy when Chow chose Brehaut.
sjh
gimme the spring line and then see!
I believe next year will show better results
It was his 5th start
And it shows. I don’t see how a player gets 5 chances to prove they are a D-1 Quarterback. Yeesh. and I’m rooting for Hundley!
One thing's for sure
Chow is done here. Hasn’t earned a dime since his arrival. Worst Bruin offense over an extended period (3 seasons) in my lifetime – dates back to the ’68 season.
The Mad Bruin
I agree completely
Up until this point I didn’t think we had a definitive starter between Prince and Brehaut. Seemed like Brehaut had a better learning curve. Anyhow, Prince is out so the point is moot.
Brehaut was terrible tonight. He would have had another interception if that S or DB wasn’t thinking about running before he caught it.
We have to have someone who can pass consistently or else our opponents are going to load the box everytime. Our run game and OL (run-block more than pass protection) have improved so I think the blame lies more elsewhere.
Why can’t we find a passing game?
EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM
by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 18, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
if we continue to have so many injuries so many years in a row
shouldn’t we start to wonder that it’s no accident? maybe our conditioning coach, our training, our way of playing puts us in harms way?
I wonder about that too and then I remember
all the posts this summer showing our guys training — and the physical results. Lots of guys got bigger and stronger.
But, you can’t train against ligament damage, concussions or broken bones.
sjh
just plain bad
in every facet. Couldn’t capitalize on early turnover deep in Husky territory, even Kai missed. Team seemed to shut down after that. Agree with injuries – TV guys kept bringing it up, but why are we snake bit every year? And oh by the way, Oregon had to kick their starting QB off the team, and look at them today. Tough to stay positive, but I will because after all it is a game, and Bruins will get better.
Effort
It really looked like only one team came ready to play – make that ready to win.
really,
Either of these teams belong in a bowl? Not a chance.
The Mad Bruin
Just wait till spring ball
we’ll think we’re world-beaters again. In spring, hope springs eternal
RESCUING DANCE MUSIC FROM THE BLAHS
This makes the SC game all that more intriguing
(if we beat ASU)
It's good to remain optimistic..
Go Bruins!
Yeah beat SC 13-9
Only to lose in the Emerald Bowl to Florida State ugh!!!
by deejayelleseven on Nov 19, 2010 5:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Disagree on the outcome of the game if Brehaut was in. Rest of the team trusts him.
Clearly we have many faults within the “core” with Brehaut starting, but honestly I feel like all the air was let out of the balloon when he left the game. We had never even seen Bell this season, and we see Bell and even the fourth stringer in this game. I think it is no surprise the rest of the team played with reservations throughout the second half. I am definitely not excusing the team chemistry/or lack thereof; just stating the obvious that the team was unprepared from a coaching standpoint for these deviations from their comfort zone/norm. You could just see the frustration boiling from the QBs and Receivers with the substitutions of the 3rd and 4th string back-ups.
Yes, but
Brehaut did not play well and the receivers continue to drop catchable balls from all QB’s..
Agreed, but I still think (although a moot point now) Brehaut would have rallied and led the team....
to maybe only a more respectable loss in the W/L stats.
He didn't rally the team before he was hurt
He just plain out was not good before the injury and I don’t get how anyone can think his injury was the turning point in the game.
We were terrible. Even Kai was bad.
We played Bell because we had to. We played Tunney because Bell obviously cannot throw — Tunney could but not to anyone.
sjh
I'm really not attacking him
I just don’t get the revisionist posts. He was not good.
Why is it ok to call out Harkey but not Brehaut?
Or to make fun of Tunney?
sjh
Brehaut was never put in position to succeed ...
… due to our sh!tty play calls. It’s not Brehaut’s fault when we keep calling for pass to Harkey’s hand of stones. It’s not Brehaut’s fault when we keep dialing up the same 5 plays and have to wait till the second half for a freaking screen pass.
Brehaut has been poorly prepared and developed as our QB. The responsibility is solely on Chow, who hasn’t gotten the job done and should not be around in Westwood at the end of this season.
Hear Hear
Even if he slithers back to Hoaritage Hall.
The Mad Bruin
It was more than Harkey
He missed on Embree, Smith, Rosario, Marvray that I can remember in the first half, and not just on passing downs either. He was just off today. It happens, but when it does, someone else has to step up, and clearly that didn’t happen.
5-14 with an interception
he may have had a drop or two — but he was way off all night including the pass that was intercepted.
Whatever the play call, no matter how bad, that does not excuse his bad passes.
I think the best argument on his behalf may be that he is not being developed correctly — that he is not getting better. But, he may be the Jerime Anderson of QB’s. A great kid, one you want to succeed, but one who is not living up to expectations.
I stand by my position that we do not have a D1 QB on the roster. We say, tonight, why Bell has not been playing.
Tunney came in because we had to throw long to have any chance of winning.
The coaches are responsible for part of this mess.
I just can’t see the argument that this game turned on Brehaut’s injury. It didn’t.
sjh
I don't think we can give up on RB based on one game
He has been showing improvement. This game was a clear step back, and hopefully he’s okay, but I think we would all be curious to know what he might look like if we weren’t trying to start an injured Prince at the beginning of the season.
In any case
He is clearly our best option right now by 20-30 miles.
Imagine if he’s really concussed and can’t play against ASU.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Friday night in the desert. Not looking good at this point in time.
by 84 on Nov 18, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
He looked OK enough on the sidelines
I hope they were just playing it safe- you don’t fuck with head injuries, even if the alternative is to throw pick-sixes.
I didn't say the game turned on Brehaut's injury
I said Brehaut and our team was short changed with an extremely poor offensive game plan. Washington made the adjustment after our TD drive and stacked the boxes. In response we made absolutely no adjustments. We didn’t have any calls giving Brehaut or the offense chance to move the ball by keeping UDub off balance. Chow called a slant pass to Barr in that TD drive. It never made another appearance. There was no quick outs, screens. The calls to Harkey on 3rd downs were jokes.
You put an inexperienced QB in position to succeed by calling plays designed to given him confidence. Chow failed massively tonight and he has most of this season. Brehaut had his faults. However, what I am getting really tired of is people dismissing him as a D-1 prospect just 5 games into his UCLA career. I don’t want to see that here. Thanks.
And, I was not responding to you
check out bruinmom’s post — that’s what stimulated my response — and some of the others above it.
And, I’ve not given up on Brehaut. He is the best we have at this time.
I hope he matures into Cade — truly do, but I don’t want to put my eggs in that basket.
One thing we’ve not mentioned is that he got some good protection, tonight, and had time to throw — and was off.
Yes, people have off nights. But, we would have lost had he been in the game. That’s just how we were playing.
sjh
I agree completely
Brehaut was off, but he was never put into a position to succeed by Chow because as we all know too well the play calling made vanilla look like Neapolitan ice cream. We played right into UW’s simplistic, stack the box defense all night. So yeah, Bre was off but how much of that regression was due to horrible coaching and preparation? A lot.
Bre is D1 talent. He was the #2 rated qb in the West behind Barkley iirc. He was given no chance last year and has started only 5 games this year with this being his only subpar performance.
I’m not saying he’s elite, but he has the arm and the heart to be very good, if not elite someday.
This 4th humiliating loss is on the coaches. CRN should be yelling at himself in the mirror, not his players who, for the most part, are giving it all they’ve got on the field.
It's moot, as I said, but still think the starters and 2nd stringers are capable of responding to Brehaut.
A 3 point lead might well have been surmounted. It is all conjecture at this point, but just because you didn’t like Brehaut’s moves after the first drive doesn’t mean the momentum couldn’t have easily changed in our favor. Still believe that Forbath’s miss and Brehaut’s concussion (if that’s what it is) changed where UCLA could have been in this game.
Agree 1000%
During the game, I watched in disbelief as the plays were always the same. What was he thinking up in the booth? An incredibly embarrassing lack of creativity.
Probably wasn't a turning point
But it probably also ended any realistic shot of winning. Brehaut can (and has at times) played better. Bell on the other hand, apparently doesn’t have much to offer.
I watched Brehaut march down the field for the first score of the game. The rest of the team trusts him, blemishes and all.
Let’s see……..Prince has tanked at times, sometimes due to injuries, sometimes not……..Bell was not stellar (not surprisingly) his first time under the lights, and Tunney…….I didn’t even know he was on the squad. I think you are being really harsh on Brehaut honestly.
2 more balls hit Harkey in the hands before hitting the ground
Maybe he moves to backup Tackle in the Spring? Too many dropped chances this season.
The Mad Bruin
What do we have to look forward to?
We have two games left in 2010. I don’t think we’re going to get new players or new coaches. I have no reason to think there will be any improvement on this game. What innovative thing has Coach Chow come up with from the press box? What stifling defense has Coach Ballough called? When has an individual player followed Coach Kezerian’s advice, which in my opinion is the advice that wins games: “Line up and whip the guy across from you.”
I can’t take any more of this. Humiliating defeats hurt too much to watch live. If we win, I’ll read about it the next day. I think Lame is salivating at the chance to stick his thumb in Coach Neuheisel’s eye. I think he’ll rub it in as much as possible. And we won’t be able to do anything about it.
2010 is an unmitigated disaster. Why should we think that 2011 will be any better? Right now, our coaching staff looks like it still thinks Pickett’s charge was a good idea, and by golly, they’ll keep charging those union lines until the players get it right.
well, on paper
Pickett’s charge made a S***load of sense – you know, like bringing “The Pistol” from Reno to Westwood.
The Mad Bruin
I disagree
I don’t think it ever made a lot of sense. I’m pretty sure they could see the artillery from where they were standing since they were on a ridge.
Copse of trees--you've been there
For those of you who attended most of your classes in the South Campus, the Copse of Trees was a stand of trees on the Union defensive line (defended by Pennsylvania volunteers) on Cemetery Ridge during the Battle of Gettysburg. Gbruin is proving that even fans have brains.
But alas, none of us North Campus types are the equal of the South Campus intellects.
Why am I discussing this, because chatting about football is depressing right now.
by peggysue69 on Nov 18, 2010 11:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Cemetery RIdge?
You mean Little Round Top, right?
The Mad Bruin
She means Cemetery Ridge
Little Round Top is where J Chamberlain and his Maine volunteers made their famously glorified stand at the south end of the Union lines on the second day.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
I have been there
Really an incredible place.
To try to imagine what that must have been like, well it makes my South Campus educated mind just swim.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
A wall of 15,000 men marching (not sprinting) a mile uphill over open ground against fortified lines and artillery?
Since we’re all on the subject of bad strategy tonight…
There’s a reason Longstreet told Lee it wouldn’t work.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
In His Defense
it was a charge against a line that was not extremely stable to begin with. The biggest problem was that the Confederates didn’t seize the hills when the had the chance. From that point they were on completely untenable terrain and should have effected a retreat to more favorable ground. I’m not a civil war historian but fighting a well defended, elevated position doesn’t strike me as a terrifically wise course of action. Hannibal was the best because he chose the battlefield, and the Romans beat him because they started choosing them.
2011 will be better because...
we’ll have the injured back and the first timers will ahve grown another year older/experienced
Who could UCLA hire if they did fire Rick?
I just can’t see UCLA spending the money to hire a proven coach.
Brady Hoke
and I’m not sure he’d leave at this point. One or two more seasons on Montezuma Mesa like this one and he’s probably NFL bound.
The Mad Bruin
Next Year
probably can’t fail to be better than this, but just consider: CRN had his work cut out to improve recruiting and attitude after KD. Next year he faces the same problem, only this time he has to get recruits and players to believe that things will be better than under himself! This is just ghastly…
Somebody's got to go to jail
for this awful performance. If there is a “next season” it is with a new OC.
The Mad Bruin
So when's the thread for the great upset away win by Woman's Basketball over Notre Dame coming up?
It would help me just forget about this terrible football game. Also really looking forward to next week’s Men’s BB game against ’Nova in NYC.
Go Bruins!
We're not stopping anyone from putting it up
We’d prefer it from someone who saw it though, which I didn’t, and I don’t believe any of the frontpagers did. But I would appreciate it if someone did.
I don't mean to say
that we wouldn’t have been better with Brehaut. Since Bell did not appear to be well prepared, I am sure that we would have been substantially better in terms of execution, confidence, and the like. But then, why wasn’t he better prepared? UDub scored off turnovers that occurred when we threw weakly into heavy coverage, I know. But we weren’t doing a lot with the passing game before RB went out. Yet we must have known that we were going to have to pass, don’t you think? If you were game planning against us, wouldn’t you commit to stopping the run? So we have to be ready to move the ball passing, adapting WCO concepts to the pistol. Is that impossible? But I never give up on the Bruins. It may sound stupid, but I think we can come back. And congrats to Women’s BB. That was a good win.
Never a fan
I was not all that happy when CRN was hired but decided to be a team player and give him the benefit of the doubt. After almost three years enough is enough. However, I believe the first blogger who said Dan must go. Just because they are alumni doesn’t make them good picks. We need changes in attitude and execution and a wide open attack If we are going to use the pistol use it. It will work with a mobile qb who can pass if he is not weighted down with poor receivers and horrendous play calling.
Reminder
We are all pissed tonight. We should be.
That said, think with your minds, and not with your emotions.
Criticism of the coaches, players, and differing viewpoints is welcome.
Personal attacks on coaches, players, and the managers here are not.
It’s really not that hard.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
On the positive side I thought Coleman played solidly
He clearly seems harder to bring down than Franklin and I was wondering why he didn’t get the ball more in the second quarter. Also Ayers had a decent game and seems over whatever was nagging him earlier.
Anybody heard CRN post game?
Has anyone heard CRN’s post game news confrence
thanks for the postgame therapy guys
but midnight is my cue to go to bed. Good night.
Just got online
what’d I miss? what’d I miss?
Ok I’ll just jump in.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
AA is the only thing watchable about the Nuggets
I’ll vouch for it.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
2 of our wins this year came against teams that proved to be jokes.
Texas never deserved to be ranked.
OSU got beat by Wazzu.
At this point you can argue the win against Wazzu was our best quality win!
even then I'm still amazed that we beat texas
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 18, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
We've lost a lot of players since that game
I’m not sure that explains it, completely, because we have some talented kids stepping in.
This is a systemic failure — coaches and players. We are not the same, in any way, to the team that beat Houston and then Texas.
sjh
I'm wondering
how much of this mess can be attributed to
1. the first year in a new offense
2. using a quarterback with minimal experience due to KP getting most of the reps and starts
3. essentially a 2nd string offensive line
4. poorly coached receivers
5. at times, questionable play calling
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 18, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is...
these are the same excuses people use, year after year after year. At some point, the excuses stop mattering.
It's not the first year in a new offense every year
though we have had a 2nd string OLine for a while now
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 18, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but my point is that every year,
you can probably trot out these excuses for every single team. Oregon lost their starting quarterback in the middle of the offseason.
People are quick to forget everything that goes wrong for the teams that are good. This is because they are, you know, good.
None of that has any bearing
on a completely predictable defense that can’t be bothered to tackle. Points 2, 4, and 5 on your list all go back to the coaching, or should I say, “coaching.”
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
We are amongst some of the top football programs
When I think UCLA football, I think Indiana, Rutgers, Tulane…Powerhouses baby! We rock mediocrity!
At least they won’t ruin our holidays by taking a shit in a bowl game.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
I root for three teams:
UCLA Pepperdine and Indiana. UCLA, well, duh; Pepperdine because I work there, my son is on the bball staff and I flat out love my job, the teams, the people and the campus; Indiana, because my son graduated from there and most of my money went there the last several years.
I’d say it’s a toss up as far as disappointing teams go. Our Bruins haven’t lost to anyone by a score of 83-20 yet (emphasis on yet), but IU did this year.
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")
Bit of an interesting note here
Aside from Temple, UCLA has not beaten a team that has played in a bowl game under Neuheisel.
Does that mean anything?
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 18, 2010 9:40 PM PST reply actions
How many bowl teams
has UCLA beaten in the last 10 years? It’s been a pathetic run man. At least some of us saw some “good” years.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
the answer is
Bring back Dorell. He could beat good teams ;)
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 18, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
You forgot Tennessee
They went 7-6 and lost in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl.
by VictoryLemonade on Nov 18, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot to add
“last year”. Also that probably remains the best team we’ve beaten in the last 3 years.
by VictoryLemonade on Nov 18, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
My bad
I totally forgot. I guess the Lane to USC drama blurred that out
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 19, 2010 9:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure which was worse?
The execution or the play calling? Why the offense has struggled so much under the tutelage of these two is mind boggling! This late in the year execution shouldn’t be our problem! even bad teams can execute – they just are don’t have enough talent to compete. UNEXCUSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.
Entertainingly ironic emphasis
by britishbruin on Nov 19, 2010 5:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Only Thing Worse Than Consistently Losing . . .
is losing without purpose, meaning without development or improvement. Where do go from here as a football program? This is just unwatchable. Hopefully Howland can get the boys ready for Villanova so we have at least one relevant program in a major sport.
how about Gus Malzahn??
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 18, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Knowing nothing about him
other than what I’ve read in the article, the idea of getting Oregon’s OC is intriguing.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
BTW
and in addition, the Huskies are getting a $250 million renovation of Husky Stadium; Sigh…
didn't get to watch the game, but the score is embarrassing, especially when you consider that the team had 10 days to prepare
the projection had UCLA loosing by 2 points, and it was a blowout.
Goodbye season. I agree that all the coaches are on the line. It’s inexcusable to lose a game by 17 points with 10 days of prep, and a UW team helping you with team penalties.
You'd be much more embarrassed
if you had to suffer through watching the game. It was awful. The ineptitude of the coaching combined with the lack of execution by many of the players led to an excruciating experience. I turned it off before it was (by the clock) over. I’ve only done that I think three times in two decades, and two were this year.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
I'm getting the sense that
CRN is much more of an assistant coach that’s able to recruit well, than a HC
Tired of wasting my time
I’m flat out tired of wasting 4 hours of a day watching atrocious football. It is absolutely painful to watch us play. We are flat out embarrassing and I have run out of patience with CRN. I am a patient person but I see zero improvement or reason to stay with CRN. Our team is not improving fundamentally or mentally. Only time I feel like we know what we are doing is in the kicking game….If I wanted to watch kicks I would tune in to soccer.
Our defense was not the problem today. You could argue that dye should have made that pick-6. But it’s obvious that we’re not going to win many games when our offense goes backwards for 3 quarters. I think we have enough talent on defense to be ok next year given we hire a capable defensive coordinator.
It’s obvious that the constant within UCLA football for almost a decade has been an inept offense. Our most successful season in 2005, we had a horrible defense yet still managed to win 10 games because of an offense that could put points on the board. Is our defense putting us out of games? Think about it, how many games has there been where our offense was let down by the defense? Have we ever lost a shootout? Have we even played in a shootout? The only game that comes to mind is Washington State, where we were lucky to pull out a victory.
I can’t wait to get rid of Chuck Bullough. But in my opinion his defensive unit has outperformed Norm Chow’s offense all year long.
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 18, 2010 11:03 PM PST reply actions
oh and one more thing
even if we managed to hold Stanford and Oregon to 20 points, it’s not like our offense would have put up more points than they did.
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 18, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Like N said
Just because UW’s offense continuously shot itself in the foot does not mean CB did a good job. They committed a number of frankly unnecessary holding penalties that negated some big runs, and we’re lucky to have stayed in the game as long as we did. Lack of tackling and discipline is always a problem, and we displayed that today, just as we have countless other times this year and throughout CB’s reign of error. For his consistently terribad starts and way too slow adjustments, his fate is sealed already.
I am in no way defending chuck bullough
and I am not trying to claim that we have a good defense. All I am saying is that even if we had better play from the defense, I’m not sure that it would make a huge difference in the win-loss column. Ultimately, our offense lacks the explosiveness and consistency that is necessary to win games.
I think that when coaching changes happen, a significant investment needs to be made in hiring a great offensive coach. It was a good idea to at least give Norm Chow a shot. But it’s obvious that it’s not working. On to the next one.
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Nov 18, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm fine with having CRN own the offense
He was the offensive mind at both of his other stops. The bottom line though is that any plans going forward that have CB as a part of them is a nonstarter. That guy is a dead man walking. If the impression here is that Chow is doing less with more this year, CB has been doing that exact thing for his entire stint here. He can thank ATV and Brian Price for covering his ass and allowing him to get paid for one more year, but his time has come.
I'm going to have stop watching before I know the outcome
and DVR the game, find out the score, and then watch the game, regardless of outcome. I just can’t take the pain and humiliation anymore – somehow that seems like it might make it easier to take these whippings we are continually dealt. I never thought I would utter these words – particularly in a public forum – but there they are. I have arranged my whole F-ing life for 15 yrs now to not find out the outcome of any UCLA bball or fball game before it is over and somehow tonight, I just don’t see the point anymore. I am broken.
Sorry, nothing tactical to contribute tonight
Other than that I liked that we threw our first screen pass of the season 10 games in – and lookie there, it gained 7 yds. Goddamn it. Also agree that Brehaut was shortchanged this year. It could have been different for him.
by Nocal Bruin on Nov 18, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm usually Mr. Positive
that was flat out embarrassing.
UCLA '08
I am curious though
if the Dump Dorrell guys will be coming back for a reunion tour.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Good question
I have no idea what happened to them. They might be among us now for all I know. N might know who they are though. I don’t.
For what it's worth, and I'm not sure if I should even be posting this
Someone on another board found the following is already up and running (and forgive me twice if this has already been posted here):
I think it’s still premature. But Chow and Bullough need to fly out the door ASAP.
Okay as played out as I think it is
They still do need to adhere to the alliteration theme, like NixNeuheisel or something. “FireNeuheisel” is just lazy.
Getting back to its roots
fireronzook.com wasn’t an alliteration. And it looks like there are several fireronzook websites sprouting up among Illinois fans
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 19, 2010 2:02 AM PST up reply actions
The root was fine
Back then it was original and novel. It’s 2010 now. firemycoach.com should go the way of lolcats and Chuck Norris facts.
I think it's still the offense that's the problem
I don’t see this as many others here do as the total failure of the whole football team. I see it as a total failure of the offense. I really don’t think the defense was that bad. They gave up 17 points in the game. If we had a half defense offense we could have still won the game.
We simply have no passing game which gives the other team’s defense a chance to stack the box against our running game. It looked like Breuhaut was coming around, but his passing was way off tonight. And Bell looked significantly worse. The offensive line still does not pass protect well enough, and the receivers also aren’t getting the job done.
We need a better offensive line and much better quarterback play. Maybe Prince or Breuhaut can still develop into that quarterback. I don’t know. But I don’t share the opinion that the defense is so bad. If we had an offense that scored 30 points a game it would be enough to win most games, and the defense would seem good enough.
What I find really disheartening is that every time it seems that the offense is finally coming together reality rears its ugly head, and it turns out to be an illusion. I think we need a much better offensive line and much better quarterback play. That’s what it really comes down to.
I would like to give the defense credit too but
Chucky did absolutely nothing after halftime. Washington changed what they were doing and immediately started hammering UCLA. How do you not go into halftime and start thinking about ways to better yourself and the team. I am not even going to comment on Chow.
Also, if anyone has the time, I would be very interested in catches vs. dropped balls for Harkey. Unbelievable
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