Blackest Friday for the Bruins
by Bellerophon on Nov 26, 2010 4:39 PM PST
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Well folks, this brings a pretty black Friday for the Bruins to an end. The day started off with a loss for Howland's squad at Madison Square Garden, falling to VCU 89-85, with "leaders" like Honeycutt and Nelson either asleep (Honeycutt) or pouting (Nelson) for the first half. For more on that disheartening, sloppy loss, check out P's post-game basketball thread here.
Following a choke job at MSG (speaking of which, why is Josh Smith not getting the ball more?!), CRN's Bruins went out and got destroyed in the desert by the score of 55-34. The score doesn't even really show how thorough ASU beat down the Bruins.
In an eerie repeat of last Thursday's debacle in Seattle, the Bruins started out hot, running out to a 17-0 lead in the first quarter, with the offense showing some flashes of creativity that made Norm Chow a hot name. After that, Chuck B. went back to his usual ways, making ASU backup QB Brock Osweiler look like a Heisman candidate, with boring, vanilla, soft coverage that got torched by ASU both on the ground and in the air. Why he still has a job is beyond me at this point.
More after the jump.
Norm didn't do himself any favors either, phoning it in the rest of the game. Yes, there was a few more creative play calls, but after the first quarter, Chow went back to his typical unimaginative play-calling, epitomized by the Bruins failing to score after getting the ball with a first and goal on the ASU 6 yard line. Four plays to get six yard for six points. Net result for the Bruins? Five yards and zero points.
But Chow isn't the only one to blame today. The blame gets passed around all around the place, because the entire team blew this one. The offense was bland and unimaginative. 34 points against a terrible ASU defense isn't anything to be proud of. Defense was an absolute joke, with poor tackling, terrible schemes, and soft coverage that made me wonder if ASU had Cam Newton at QB today. Even special teams was a joke, giving up a kick return TD.
Just as predicted in the pre-game thread, the Bruins didn't have the drive to win, looking like they were going through the motions today. With this loss, the Bruins are officially eliminated from bowl contention, meaning that next week's game against U$C will be a match-up of teams with no post-season hopes. At least the Trogans have an excuse for not having a bowl game.
As Nestor pointed out after the Washington loss:
We have said since the Oregon game the careers of the entire coaching staff are going to be in line for this season. Tonight's game was a huge test and needless to say everyone FAILED in spectacular fashion.
You could say the exact same thing after this loss too. When this season is over, CRN needs to seriously look at his coaching staff and make major changes. If Bullough or any Walker disciple is back, that is going to be a huge strike against CRN (and believe you me, if you think BN won't go after CRN like BN did KD, you're kidding yourself). CRN still has time to turn it around and right the ship, but this season has shown he will need to make some tough choices to move this program in the right direction, starting with revamping his coaching staff.
Another week, another embarrassing UCLA football loss. Not much to add at this point. Fire away with your thoughts, observations, etc. here. If you have extended thoughts, feel free to throw them up in the FanPost section.
GO BRUINS.
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Hey guys?
Remember that one time we beat Texas? That was fun right? Texas is good right? Right?!
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 26, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions
heh
I was there and that was a blast. I do have something good to hold on to from this year.
+1
plus we beat Oregon State who beat Arizona who beat Iowa who beat Michigan State who beat Wisconsin.
Therefore, we belong in the Rose Bowl.
That IS Good!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 26, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Changes
I think for sure Bullogh needs to go I’ve not been impressed with his Defense’s at all, The second ditch the PISTOL it’s not working and it hasn’t worked, I’m saddend for the Seniors who wil not get to go to a bowl game this year, At the start of the season and I said we would for sure defeat FUSC now I’m not sure.
I disagree
I believe the defensive coordinator (wont say his name) is gone, but I think today solidified my opinion on the pistol. It will come around as Chow becomes more comfortable with it. Chow deserves another year; Our DC does not
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 26, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
chow showed just what his coaching means to ucla when we had 4th and inches,
with the score only 31-27…a touchdown would have given us a lead…(not that it would ultimately matter i guess, but at the time it would have been fun)…and he has the bruins run up the freaking middle against the loaded 8 man box defense of asu…WTF????…bre has run in from short yardage for some touchdowns, why not fake a hand-off and let richard take it in…show some confidence in your qb chow!…i hate teams that run up the middle in obvious plays…and most of them are NOT successful when they do…that to me was a turning point, at least at that moment in time and score
See
Saying fake handoff and “have confidence in your QB” make you lose credibility. The veer play is a READ. Those plays where its 1 inch to go comes down to the heart and soul of your offensive line- you have to want it more than your opponent. We’ve been over this before too, if he scored, no one would complain so again, it came down to our line not wanting as much as ASU’s defense did
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 26, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
How about the bruising Coleman instead of Franklin on those short yardage plays?
by 84 on Nov 26, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
So be it.
But not being able to get one yard when you can take the lead is on the team’s drive to win
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 26, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
I thought about Coleman, too, but
someone in the thread properly pointed out that the choice is putting someone in who can squeeze through a smaller hole v. a battering ram.
03rd is right — if we had made it, it was a brilliant call.
If we had run wide and missed, the criticism would have been that we should have played power football and gone up the middle.
It was the right call — we should be able to make that yard.
sjh
I don't agree.
If we ran the option or passed and we made it, the coaches are geniuses and if we don’t, they are Bozo’s. Same here except that we had tried running up the middle all game and could not get anything, why would we expect it to be different at the one yard line? On top of that, at the one yard line they are expecting it..
Just my opinion.
Futility is not acceptable
If your team cannot get one yard up the middle then they weren’t going to score in Any way shape or form. I completely believe that if Texas Tech or SMU had the ball on the one inch line, they would sneak it even if they have negative rushing yards in the game
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 26, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
My point is
It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t there all game (running off tackle, sweeps, veer all that) if you need one yard, you need to get it. And time and time again, that’s the difference between a bad team (UCLA) and a great team (Oregon/Auburn)
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 26, 2010 7:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I certainly won't disagree with that last line.
I see your point and don’t disagree for a team that is capable. We haven’t been and I guess that’s why I would have tried something different.
Agree with LongtimeBru
We usually try to run up the middle on 1st and 2nd downs then we try to pass and guess what? Everybody knows that’s what we always do and they know the pass won’t be a long one. Our defensive play today was pathetic and to not be able to score from the 1 foot line is ridiculous. It was a momentum change. I agree about our team not having that fire in them. I also have noticed that when Neuheisal is talking to our players as they come off the field, they just walk away from him. What’s that about? When a coach or teacher talks to you, you should not be walking away. You should listen. They need to be more disciplined.
by Forever a Bruin on Nov 26, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Offensive Coordinator
It’s time for a change at UCLA. I don’t want a promoted positions coach. I don’t want a guy to just change schools or come from an NFL background. I want a young, imaginative, creative guy from a lower division, a la Chip Kelly or Gus Malzahn. Enough with this crap. Let’s mix it up.
And here’s where I’d start: Shannon Dawson, offensive coordinator for Stephen F. Austin. He’s young, he’s creative, and he’s taken an offense even worse than ours and in 2 years is now setting records nationally for points and yards. This is where this program needs to be pointed – towards youth and excitement.
I’m not saying Dawson is the answer – the odds of him being our next OC are probably less than 1%. But that’s the kind of guy that we should target. I’ve had enough “big names” and “next big things” failing here. Let’s mix it up and get someone off the radar.
OT - Oregon just got bailed out big time
James got hit hard near the head and fumbled, recovered by the Cats. But the officials flagged the defender for an illegal blow to the head and the Ducks kept the ball, and i don’t see what the flag was.
cohesive, imaginative coaching staff?
Is it possible for us to play well in all aspects for an entire game? this time the collapse came after a defensive special teams blunder.
Is it possible for us to make halftime adjustments? Today, it was a one-point game at the half.
Are CRN’s cliches worn out? ( we’ve got to work through this, we’ve got to find a way to get better, I was pleased with the practice today, etc).
Sometimes we can’t run against teams with poor run defenses. Other times, we can’t pass against poor pass defenses. Are our schemes that obvious?
If our athletic department is run like a business, sounds like we need a new human resources manager.
For next week...
Can we have the defense that played against Oregon State and today’s offense to show up?
Ugh
CB needs to go we are way too talented on defense to get torched like this.
ASU is a solid defensive team I have not seen the numbers overall but I know they were supposed to have a great defense this year. And they seem to keep teams in check this year.
We let Brehaut loose today good to seeand it is about time the kid has an arm.
Outside of the terrible 4th down call I thought CNC called a solid game. We need more on the OL at this point. It was nice to see WRs making plays!
Missed opportunities like the Marsh missed tackle and Brehaut overthrow hurt.
by Seahawcla on Nov 26, 2010 5:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm not going to give Bullough a ringing endorsement...
but we are playing freshmen at strong safety, middle linebacker, defensive end, and defensive tackle. Hester and Price are sophomores. We may be all screaming for the young talent to play and have Bullough do something with it, but underclassmen in the secondary equals blown coverages. Freshmen up the middle equals getting blown off the line.
Find a team that plays as many or more freshmen and sophomores on defense and you’ll find a defense as bad or worse than this one. Nevertheless, it was never a good idea to promote Bullough if Neuheisel was serious about putting out the best defense possible. I think he sacrificed established success as a DC for continuity, which really sucks.
Umm not exactly dude
Our starting secondary includes two sophomores (Hester and Price) and two juniors (Dye and Moore). Moore was an All-American. Our linebackers only include one freshman, and one of the three is a Butkus Award finalist. The defensive line was the supposed liability, but even there it’s weak more for lack of talent than lack of experience (only Owa and Marsh are freshman). 3 starting freshman out of 11.
Bullough is a joke and we have more than enough talent in his unit for them to be a consistent force.
Moreover, even if Bullough had all seniors who were returning All-Americans, his defense would still get torched. When you only rush three guys and drop everyone into a soft zone coverage, if you give a Division I QB all the time in the world, he will eventually find someone open. Period.
Bullough’s problems aren’t personnel, it’s that his schemes suck huge balls.
Not exactly what?
Underclassmen play a lot. Six (Hester, Price, Marsh, Owa, Zumwalt, Riley) were on the field for ASU’s first touchdown of the fourth quarter that really put the game away.
My point is simple. Youth on defense is not good. No matter how talented. SC’s defense is full of four and five star players. They have a well-respected DC who had Tennessee in the top 30 in total defense and top 15 in pass efficiency defense with talented upperclassmen. Now he has talented underclassmen. Guess what? They suck as a whole. And they’ll probably be back in the top third in total defense for next year with all that talent.
Bullough’s players are very much like SC’s. Neither defense is good. One coordinator is established, the other isn’t. The argument isn’t as one sided as you want it to be.
Wrong, but nice try
Underclassmen are not the reason our defense sucks. Our defense sucks because Bullough’s defensive philosophy is fundamentally flawed. Youth is not the excuse for our defense’s inconsistent play. If anything, our younger defenders have been some of our better and more consistent defensive players this season. Marsh is the best DT we have. Zumwalt has not made freshman mistakes leading to big plays. Likewise, Owa has been the most disruptive DE on the roster this year. You could blame youth if the young guys were making mental mistakes and giving up big plays. They’re not.
Also, let me make this clear: our starting strong safety is not a freshman. It’s Tony Dye. He’s a junior.
Also, Aaron Hester is not a real underclassman, so drop that argument now. He’s a redshirt sophomore. This is his third year in the program. No excuse.
Look at last year’s defense. Inconsistent and a major source of frustration last year. Chuck B. only got bailed out a few times because he had some really elite guys (who he didn’t develop) in ATV and BP. If your defense relies on the presence of a pair of once-every-decade guys, then something is fundamentally wrong. Our defense wasn’t good last year, despite having a lot more experienced guys.
Like I said before, you could give Chucky a roster of senior All-Americans and his defense would still be porous and inconsistent. It is not the personnel, it’s his defensive philosophy. Hell, the man wouldn’t know what a blitz was if it bit him in the ass. His schemes are fundamentally stupid. Period.
For example, look at our defense on 3rd and long situations. Typically, Chucky will rush only 3, and drop the rest of the unit into soft zone coverage. If you give a Division I QB enough time in the pocket, he will read the zone and eventually find the open man for the first down. You cannot count how many times that has happened this season alone. It’ll be third and long, and Chucky will have his DBs sag off their man into a soft cushion zone and give the opposing QB all damn day to carve up the zone. You know where that defense works? Video games. It doesn’t work in real life.
Most successful defenses do the exact opposite. Because it makes sense. On 3rd and long, the opposition typically needs at least 8 yards. If you blitz, you’re now bringing 5 or 6 guys at the QB, which will put him under pressure and shorten his internal clock in terms of how long he has to throw the ball. That, in turn, doesn’t allow the downfield route to develop and often it forces the QB to go to a hot read or a check down, which isn’t going to get them the yards they need for the first down. Sure you give up 5 or 6 yards, but now you’re looking at 4th and 2 or 3. That gets you the ball back. In fact, with younger QBs, the blitz on 3rd and long leads to either a sack, an incompletion, or an interception. Chucky never does that. He lets his defense sit back and gives these backup and young QBs we’ve faced all day to find the open man.
Also, your comparison to Monte Kiffin is laughable. Kiffin’s Tampa Cover 2 scheme is designed to have very specific kinds of players in mind. You need defensive linemen who can generate pressure on their own and linebackers who can cover very well. U$C’s defense isn’t good because their defensive scheme is unsound, but because it’s Monte’s first year and he doesn’t have the personnel for his preferred defensive scheme. Talk about comparing apples to oranges.
Chucky’s schemes are fundamentally flawed. Blaming our player’s youth is not the reason our defense isn’t playing well. It’s Chuck. If you want to defend a hack defensive coordinator that has been eviscerated on BN time and time again, by all means, go ahead. You can be the one who looks like an uneducated dumbass.
And yes, the argument is as one sided as I’m making it out to be.
Grab your pitchfork B!
I guess I’ll take the uneducated dumbass approach and realize the problem with the defense isn’t just scheme. Yesterday, we zone-blitzed, blitzed safeties, and ran some base nickel coverage. The long touchdown run came on play where Dye blitzed from his safety spot. Once he got into the secondary, Rahim took a poor angle. All-americans make mistakes. But it does not condemn the scheme as much as poor technique (which is probably on the coaches).
The touchdown that gave ASU their first lead came on a zone blitz. I’m not buying the argument that we don’t blitz enough. We rush three maybe 4 plays out of the 60-80 we have on defense per game. While clearly this is a shitty scheme, it happens maybe five percent of the time. As frustrating it is to watch, it is not the main problem. We don’t get the other team into third and long very often. Third and 6 or shorter don’t need to be long routes that take time to develop. Blitzing can be effective here, but it also puts pressure on the corners to maintain leverage inside on the slant. This might also leave the flat open, unless you run some sort of combo zone coverage.
I’ve seen enough around here to notice that jtthirtyfour and 03rdn9 are guys looking back at the tape and making analysis there. I don’t trust your analysis, because you spout off the most frustrating schemes and fail to look at the larger picture. Your eyes seem to focus on the ball. Blitzes are coming whether you notice them or not. Your arguments really lend themselves to criticizing the defensive staff’s ability to teach technique and get the players to understand their zone responsibilities or how to maintain leverage.
I’m not defending keeping Bullough. I think he should go. I don’t think he should have been hired in the first place. I’m not sure it’s his schemes so much as his inability to coach proper technique or put together a staff that can. This, combined with plenty of youth, does not make for a good defense.
On the zone blitz touchdown, Dye got beat to the corner man-to-man. The two linebackers exchanged with the the DTs who dropped into short zones. All the receivers were manned up. The safety jumped the slant in the slot to put two men on him with the outside receivers getting one on one. Dye got beat. The ball was out of the quarterback’s hand in 3 seconds or less. Our blitzer was a second late.
There is just so much to football that the such one sided militancy against the DC’s schemes the kind of reactionary sentiment that makes you look foolish. Just because BN has eviscerated Bullough time and time again doesn’t make the scheme the only problem. It’s a combination of youth, poor technique (probably on the coaches), and scheme.
Frankly, neither of us know the root of the problem. My main objection is your pitchfork-in-hand approach to eviscerating what you probably know little of. I probably don’t know what I’m talking about either. But we do blitz. That’s a fact. If you don’t want to look objectively at the tape, that’s fine. Enjoy your blog.
“Hell, the man wouldn’t know what a blitz was if it bit him in the ass.” I suppose this is hyperbole, but it’s hard to tell. You might want to rethink this statement unless your not worried about looking like an uneducated dumbass.
Snarky posts and a nice strawman
I never said the problem was "just" the scheme. You can’t find a place where I say it’s "just" the scheme. Folks all over BN have been pointed out poor tackling technique to the point where it’s absurd to keep repeating that we can’t tackle. Who’s to blame for poor tackling? Chuck. He’s the DC. That’s his responsibility.
And yes, his schemes are fundamentally not sound. If they were legitimate, then we would have been able to stop people under either Walker or Bullough on a consistent basis when we did have the horses. We never have been. Walker (and his buddy Bullough) would put together a nice effort against a vanilla pro-set team, then go out and get destroyed by a spread offense. That has been hashed out time and time again here as well.
Your earlier post was "not a ringing endorsement" of Chuck but you have not problem making excuses for him. Youth is not the excuse and your posts make it out to be "well if we had more experience, Chuck could stop someone." That’s fundamentally false.
Your point was:
My point is simple. Youth on defense is not good. No matter how talented. SC’s defense is full of four and five star players. They have a well-respected DC who had Tennessee in the top 30 in total defense and top 15 in pass efficiency defense with talented upperclassmen. Now he has talented underclassmen. Guess what? They suck as a whole. And they’ll probably be back in the top third in total defense for next year with all that talent.
Where did you mention technique? Where did you mention a combination of all three factors? Oh you didn’t, because you were blaming it all on youth. Now that you’ve been called out on it, now it’s "all three factors." Convenient to go back and claim something after you got exposed.
Not that anyone should be surprised since you don’t even know who our starting strong safety is or what class he is in.
I’m watched the tape, I’ve watched the game, and we do not blitz nearly as often as you like to believe. When we do blitz, it’s never even close to being disguised and teams are able to easily check into another set, pick up the blitz and burn our defense.
You can call it a "pitchfork-in-hand" approach all you want, but I and BN have enough of a track record of fact-based analysis to stand by. You’re just some random guy wanting to make excuses for a mediocre coach, despite the fact other FBS teams are doing pretty good with young guys in their defensive units.
Thanks for trying to be a snarky Bullough buddy, but you’ve failed. Building straw man arguments that I didn’t make so you can make yourself look smart isn’t going to play out here chief.
Goodbye.
by Bellerophon on Nov 27, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Bullough
Many of us, especially those of us who did not think DeWayne Walker’s defenses were sufficient, were opposed to the hire of Bullough — but relented in deference to CRN. In fact, you’ll see posts from several of us who said “If CRN wants him, I want him.”
I always thought the reason CRN wanted him was to help onto the recruiting class he had helped Walker recruit.
He was a bad hire — bad last year with more talent, including BP, and even worse this year.
Lest anyone forget, our defensive backfield, comprised of some very talented players, was supposed to be the strongest unit on this team. It has been one of the greatest disappointments. (The other great disappointment — the offense’s most talented unit, the receivers.)
Both Moore and Bullough have not done much with the talent they have had.
sjh
Goal line failure was a metphor for the season
4 plays to get 0 was it for me. Unbelievable. Put your biggest guy under center and sneak it.
Kudos to the offense; the defense is unacceptable
This is sure a reversal of the pattern throughout this season where the offense was very unproductive with an anemic passing game while the defense was often pretty decent such as against Oregon St. Never would i have dreamt that our offense would put up 34 pt. against Arizona St. but never would I have dreamt that our defense would give up 55 to them. If you would have told me that we would score 34 pt. I would have thought we would have won for sure.
The positive is that the offense with Brehaut is coming around. Arizona St. has one of the best defenses in the conference not to mention that this game was on the road. They held Stanford to 17 last week. So we doubled Stanford’s score. That is very promising for the future. However the defense was just unacceptable. We have a lot of talent on defense so something is really wrong. Maybe we do need a coaching change there.
Huh?
…never would I have dreamt that our defense would give up 55 to them.
We must have been watching different defenses this season.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
You Must have Watched the Defense but not the Scoreboard
The only team we gave up over 40 points to this season was Oregon. Stanford got 35 with 7 of that on the offense, Arizona under 30, Oregon St. 14, Cal 35, Washington 24, Texas and Houston under 15.
So yes I was surprised to see Arizona St. who is not an offensive juggernaut like Oregon and Stanford put up 55 points on our defense.
But, we let teams convert on way too many 3rd and longs and fail to make the most basic plays.
Overall point total doesn’t mean much, its the every down counts view that makes a good defensive team. I want a D that doesn’t mail it in for any given play due to crap play calling.
the head coach
is the one that’s responsible for this mess. sorry, but i don’t get all the blame that’s coming down on CNC. the guy has proven his worth time and time again. Then this year he gets handcuffed with underperforming players and a new gimmick offense that is the short term quick fix in order to get some w’s. He readily admits it’s not the way he would do things, but stays classy about it. Then his head coach sends him midweek to Nevada learn it a bit better. Wow, talk about an insult. The problems run so deep on this squad that Rick’s cliches aren’t gonna cut it anymore. I’ve got no issues with CNC running it on 4th and 1 because that’s what you do. If he tried some cutesy play, fans here would be calling for his head regardless. It’s time for the boss to go. Firesale on the whole staff if need be, but the Rick experiment in Westwood is not working. Just calling it like i see it.
running it on 4th and 1
Sure, it’s “what you do,” if by “what you do,” you mean “what the defense completely expected and prepared for us to do.” I like Norm Chow. I think he’ll do well when he gets more comfortable with the pistol and Brehaut. He’s already starting to open up the playbook to showcase Brehaut’s skills, and I like that. I was happy with the flea-flicker, even though Brehaut blew it and overthrew. However, on short yardage plays where you know the defense is going to be a brick wall up the gut, why in hell do you send the speed back into it? I understand the “it’s less than a yard, let’s just pound it” philosophy, but Johnathan Franklin is not the back you use for that situation, especially when you have Coleman. Personally, I would have preferred a Brehaut end-around on a fake handoff (which was wide open) or a slant. Either of those had a much better chance of scoring than the “let’s throw the little fast guy into a brick wall” play.
Say what you will about the offensive playcalling, but the difference in the game today was not the offense, it was the three big plays where the D/Special teams got caught with their pants down. 34 points should be enough to win a game, it’s not like we’re playing Oregon here.
The only bright spot
is that we only have one more game with CB as the defensive coordinator. If there was any doubt about his future, there is no more. Although ASU has been a different team since getting smoked at Cal, there is no excuse for giving up 55 points to another 2-5 team.
And, I don’t see how we also make a change with the offensive coordinator at the same time. The only way I could see making a change is if we brought in someone with extensive experience with the Pistol. To change to another offensive scheme next year (which would be 3 in 3 years) makes no sense to me.
OT: Earl Watson
He’s leading a great comeback against the Lakers. He looks great (I’m rooting for the Lakers, but always for Earl). This is a joy to watch. Running a great offense, quick, great passing, 3 pt shooting…oh yah, that’s what ucla pt guards do. Anyway, so good to see Earl and to see him playing great. Barnes isn’t bad either. What talent we had! How little we did with it.
Go Bruins!
We scored second (tied) highest point total today...
We beat Texas with 34 points.
USC beat Arizona State with 34 points.
ASU has scored more than 34 only twice against FBS teams, Wash. St and us.
Darkest day ...
Women’s volleyball just lost to U$C in 5 sets, 15-13 in the fifth set after taking the early lead.
We played our hearts out tonight...
in women’s volleyball. USC’s ranked ahead of us, and we just lost our starting middle blocker Katie Camp to a season-ending knee injury. :-(
We never should’ve even been in the game as much as we were, given the talent disparity levels.
Oh, and it didn’t help that THERE WERE MORE TROJAN FANS IN PAULEY THAN BRUIN FANS. Ugh.
Well, whatever number you sent...
USC doubled or tripled it. Bleh.
At least they were well-behaved, but after a good play by UCLA vs. a good play by USC, the noise level of applause and cheering wasn’t even close. :-(
Oh, and to top off the failure aspect, they couldn’t get the national anthem to play over the PA system, so we ended up singing the song ourselves in the audience. While that was awesomely cool, it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Someone goofed. Badly.
That was odd the band not there to play
They usually play at women’s volleyball, especially a big game like this one.
"34 points against a terrible ASU defense isn't anything to be proud of."
Before today, ASU was averaging giving up 23.7 points (51st in the country, 5th Pac 10) and 354.6 yards (49th, 5th) per game. I’d call that an average defense and a pretty decent (at least) performance, especially if you’re looking for improvement week to week.
Disheartened
Sorry I got on here late guys. Was following today’s debacle from my phone the best I could. When I saw we were up 17-0 I was like, “God, maybe we ARE going to get this one!” Then, the next time I look I see we’re down 31-20. I don’t know. I mean, yeah, CRN NEEDS to make some major changes with the staff this next season w/o fail if he wants to keep his own job. The other thing is that, for whatever reason, this team seems to have no heart; no fight when things get rough. And I can only attribute that to a TOTAL lack of senior leadership. Granted, we had some low moments last year, too but nothing as collectively bad as this. Where/how does the bleeding end?
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 26, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions
he was abused today
returning for his senior season is probably a smart decision. Hopefully he’ll have more opportunities to ballhawk next year if the D-line develops as hoped.
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Rahim is a young man of good character
I’m sure he could go pro this year and make enough money to make it worthwhile.
I don’t think the decision to stay is about money.
I have a feeling it is more about finishing what he started — and a sense of responsibility to the school and staff.
Whatever, I’m glad he’s coming back.
Yes, he’s not had as good a year as expected — but it’s hard for any D back to look good when the opposing QB has all day to throw — and the receivers an inordinate amount of time to get open.
sjh
+1
His season has been sub par except for a couple key moments. Could be b/c our defense doesn’t place him in the ideal position to succeed. Either, next year with more pressure with a healthy more mature d-line he should be able to shine again.
I wouldn't want to leave like this either.
Echo british’s comment – he certainly hasn’t helped his stock much this year.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
My DVR was nice to me today.
It stopped recording 63 minutes in. We were up 17, and all was well.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
I think a lot of people defending C.B. argue that he is not a horrible D.C. They give lots of potential reasons (even though I feel most of those reasons are weak) – new players, an offense that can’t stay on the field, etc.
But I think that misses the point — we don’t want an average D.C., which is what C.B. would be if all the reasons given in his defense were valid. C.B. most certainly isn’t a good defensive coordinator. He does not do more with what he has — and that is reflected by the amount of missed tackles, poor angles, and passive play calling. Therefore he must go.
As for Neuheisel, I can’t help but feel that he is too much of a salesman, and too little of the engineer we need to put a solid product on the field. Everytime I watch him speak, he’s charismatic and says all the right things – he has passion for the school, he cares about his team, he understands the fans’ frustration, they’re working hard, etc.
I’m always wary of that, because I like him on a personal level, and it forms a positive bias wrt his performance. But ultimately the results speak for themselves. And looking only at our results, any reasonable person would conclude that the person in charge was not competent for the position. We have lost a lot of ground within our conference, and are the clear 2nd worst.
Ahead of whom?
Washington State is trending up. I would not be the least bit surprised if they beat UW. They very well could beat UCLA on a neutral field right now.
by orlandobruin on Nov 27, 2010 4:38 AM PST up reply actions
OT- Watching the Revolver at Work
Even though Nevada is in a tough game with Boise State, and not moving the ball easily, it is interesting to see how the offense works with an experienced QB and players who know how to use it.
One big difference — the “deception” is more deceptive with an experienced QB. I think Prince was good at it, Brehaut not so good.
And, Nevada has an O line that works, too.
If we stay with this O, I can see us running it well, next year.
sjh
Revolver and Brehaut
Agree it should get better, cuz I feel like Brehaut’s deception and his zone-read ability has improved dramatically in the time he has been at the helm (in addition to his passing ability).
yes, he is getting better
whether he will ever become “slick” is unknown. But, for a pro-set type QB he is workng hard to make the changes and I admire both his effort and accomplishment.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather...
…have Brehaut, with his better arm and judgment in the passing game (things which Prince has yet to grasp in his 2 years as UCLA’s starting QB), than Prince, who is better at selling the option read.
Why?
Becoming good at selling the option read is something that can be developed. Being able to make the right read in the passing game is something I do not believe Prince will learn.
Prince was the better QB at the beginning of the season, but Brehaut has more long-term potential.
I hate to say it, but Prince getting hurt might have been the best thing for Brehaut and QB production next season. The reps he’s getting now really gives him the inside path to winning the starting job next year outright (as long as Chow gives him a fair shot and Hundley isn’t a super-stud who we have to start).
by Bellerophon on Nov 26, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Nail in 2 coffins
Not only did this end our chances of a bowl game, but I agree that CB is on his way out. If nothing else, this sealed the deal. Agree with the poor tackling, poor coverage, and just plain frustration that this D has given us today.
After the tough loss in Mens BB, feels like we were trying to pick ourselves up by going up 17-0, then getting a swift kick in the nuts to knock us down again. Tough to deal with.
Is is really true what the announcers mentioned that Brehaut completed more passes than Aikman’s record? Embree and Rosario looked the best I’ve seen this year. Marvray looked solid as well. Its too bad Smith missed that pass in the endzone. I feel like that was a definite momentum changer.
I feel like anyone who can, should stay for next year. Def agree with Rahim’s decision and hope he doesn’t regret it.
Yes, Brehaut broke Troy Aikman's game completion record (31) with 33
Brehaut also broke Dennis Dummitt’s pass attempts record (51) with 56
Nevada has much more talent
They’re charging back and their entire O unit is in sync.
Pleasure to watch them.
Rooting for them. Their generosity in sharing the secrets of their O was noteworthy.
sjh
no idea how talented they are
but they certainly know how to run their system effectively.
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Rooting for Nevada as well
Can’t speak to the overall talent, but their coaches sure seem to be using it to their full ability. Love seeing what these guys have been able to do in the 2nd half.
formerly bruinhoo
maybe the flow of information wasn't just one way
when CRN/CNC visited Chris Ault…
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
and Chucky is a special tackling consultant
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I was just going to say the same thing
not a great collaboration for Nevada
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Failures in all aspects
I only caught glimpses of this game, but those just happened to be the most frustrating parts: not being able to punch it in on 4th and inches, giving up a deep bomb with absolutely no one around, and allowing a special teams TD. It was a failure in all parts of our game. It’s already a given that CB has to get the boot at the end of the season. I don’t care what NFL teams he’s been on. He can’t run a college defense. Period. Time to bring in a DC with experience in coaching and developing college defenses.
I think Norm Chow and CRN get one more chance next season. The Pistol can be an effective offense, but we have no business making it more than 20% of our offense. UCLA didn’t bring in CRN and Norm Chow to run the Pistol, and we should follow Alabama’s example in running a few plays of the offense to throw off opposing defenses. However, CRN made a huge mistake in not sticking with his base offense in his 3rd year. The year when most of his players would have been very familiar with his system. He needs to go back to his base offense next season and do the best with the players he has.
Against usc, CRN needs to just let it all go. He has to coach as if this will be his last game on the UCLA sideline. Hell, because if we play against sc like we did tonight, I may take back what I said about giving CRN one more season.
yuck
Ault telling him he should have spiked it rather than call a TO…
I really feel like I got cheated
I mean, what used to be my local Buffalo Wild Wings never had any way to let me show up late for classes or job interviews, or prolong games that were not going the way that I preferred.
formerly bruinhoo
Really,
Great game by two very good teams.
And, I’m enjoying the Pistol — seeing its potential
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
I really want Nevada to win this game
Don’t like Boise State and I think Peterson was rude when we were looking to replace cts — was not very gracious about our interest in him
sjh
and how cold must it be there right now?
makes it even more epic to me for some reason…
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
former walk-on nails it
after having a similar range kick blocked earlier in the game…
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
and Nevada...
is a tight road loss at Hawaii away from being in the NC discussion….
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
I want to talk to the Nevada special teams coach
who devised the schemes to disrupt two FGs inside 30 yards
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
I only watched this game to see the Pistol
and ended up seeing an incredible game.
Well played on both sides.
Boise State will lament the missed field goals.
Had they lost, Nevada would have lamented letting Young get behind them with 9 seconds on the clock.
Things evened out and worked out.
sjh
There's gonna be a lot of lovin' happening in Reno tonight.
Glad to smile at the end of a sporting event today.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
But Seriously
Big Big kudo’s to the Nevada Defense for shutting Boise down and holding them to the one touchdown. Nice to watch a defense adjust, scheme, adjust, scheme and just get in there and play hard and keep fighting. Hated for either team to lose. What a great game.
kinda jealous of NEVADA and BOISE ST.
they have some legit, exciting football programs. something we just don’t seem to be able to figure out…
Bit of a fall for Boise State
From either a Rose Bowl or possible BCS title game appearance, to the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl (formerly the nut bowl).
formerly bruinhoo
what is the tiebreaker for the 3-way tie, any idea?
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
and, if it's the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl
wouldn’t they maybe want to take the Reno team for easier travelling support to SF? (admittedly, I have no idea which of the two teams bring more support in general)
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
(sorry, confusing)
I was wondering whether the 3 teams just share the conference title, or whether there is a tie-break for the win;
separately, if it is correct that the KFH bowl gets first choice of teams from the WAC, is it a given they take Boise over Reno?
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
and, mildly ironic
that if Boise St goes to the KFH bowl, Nevada will play in the Humanitarian Bowl at … Bronco Stadium in Boise, ID…
by britishbruin on Nov 26, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I saw something about a 'bowl placement committee' in my reading
Not sure what/if that exists, but I would imagine that the bowls get to pick from among the 3, though Hawaii is locked into the Hawaii Bowl, leaving Boise and Nevada for the Kraft and Humanitarian Bowls to choose from. Don’t know who is the stronger bid from the Bowl’s POV.
Oddly, the win actually hurt Nevada’s bowl placement. Had Boise won and then beaten Utah St next week, their BCS bid would have locked Nevada into the Fight Hunger bowl. Now, there is a good chance that they fall to the Humanitarian Bowl.
formerly bruinhoo
There is no tiebreaker in the WAC rules, given that the 3 teams all have 1-1 head to head records
Was just looking it up, seems that Boise, Hawaii and Nevada are all co-champions.
formerly bruinhoo
BSU loss most likely secures Stanford a BCS at-large bid.
Probably Fiesta—Orange will probably take the Big East winner.
Not unless Auburn loses in the SEC title game
Unless Oregon and TCU make the BCS championship game, the Rose Bowl is obligated to take TCU to replace Oregon.
(For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl.)
For Stanford to get into the Rose Bowl (assuming they beat Oregon State), either: 1) TCU appears in the BCS title game; or 2) Boise St, TCU and Nevada all finish outside of the BCS Top-16, which is highly unlikely (coming into today: TCU #3, BSU #4 – and falling, Nevada #19- and rising).
While Stanford won’t be headed to the Rose Bowl, the Boise loss actually opened up another path to the BCS. If Stanford beats Oregon State, and Arkansas beats LSU tomorrow, they could move up from their current #6 position to #4 in the BCS rankings (Wisconsin is very close behind at #7, with a chance of leapfrogging Stanford), which carries an automatic BCS qualifying spot.
formerly bruinhoo
Not Rose Bowl, that is
If nothing else, the Boise loss makes a BCS game take Stanford due to lack of any other options.
With the now-most likely scenario – Auburn/Oregon title game, TCU #3 (Auto bid) and LSU #4 (Auto bid), that results in 8 automatic bids, and 2 at-large slots. The ACC and Big East have no at-large worthy teams, and the SEC will have filled its BCS allotment, leaving the runners up from the Big 10, Big XII and Pac-10 to fill 2 slots. The Big 10 #2 is certain to get one of those spots, leaving the final place between #5 Stanford (11-1), and the Big XII title game loser (11-2 Oklahoma St, 10-3 Oklahoma/Nebraska).
formerly bruinhoo
I was thinking Fiesta Bowl with the last pick.
It would be hard to justify taking a 3-loss team over Stanford if there is a western slot open.
Orange could take the Big East champ (bad, but preferable to Stanford because of geography).
western slot
meaning at-large spot in a bowl game in a geographically-friendly location for Stanford.
sorry, it’s late.
how far does Boise fall in BCS standings? and/or how far does Nevada rise?
any chance either finishes in top-14? Probably not a factor in the BCS bowl selection, but I’m interested to see if either finishes BCS bowl eligible.
I also think that the Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl would much rather take a 3-loss Oklahoma or Nebraska, or a Big-10 team, than a terrible Big East team, leaving the Fiesta Bowl with Big-12 champ vs Big East champ. Not sure whether a 2-loss OKState goes ahead of Stanford.
Stanford’s inability to sell out their own ‘fun-size’ stadium in big games means no BCS bowl is likely to take them if they have another option.
by britishbruin on Nov 27, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
I have a hard time believing the BCS would..
take the huge fallout from taking a 3-loss Big XII team versus Stanford. It’s one thing to take an 11-1 or 12-1 BCS conference school over a 12-0 non-AQ, but leaving out Stanford whose only loss is on the road to the #1 team in the country would be a mess.
I get that it’s about dollars in the end, but this one would be a major credibility hit.
especially when there's a viable option in Phoenix.
If you’re the Orange, probably hoping UConn loses to USF next week so a team that travels better (WVU) would take the Big East bid.
Obviously this assumes OK State beats Oklahoma...
which is no guarantee. If OK St. loses, they might go to the Orange over Stanford/Big East champ.
I agree, of course, that it’s a safe bet Ohio State goes to the Sugar Bowl.
now all of this may be moot
as if Stanford finishes ranked #4 in the country (looking very feasible following the BSU and LSU losses) they will receive an automatic bid.
This means a bubble bursting for someone… assuming Auburn-Oregon title game, guarantee that the Sugar Bowl takes an SEC team as their replacement for Auburn. This leaves
Rose Bowl: TCU vs Wisconsin,
Sugar Bowl: Alabama or LSU vs [1st choice – likely Ohio State]
Orange Bowl: ACC winner vs [2nd choice – Stanford or Big East winner]
Fiesta Bowl: Big12 winner vs [3rd choice – Stanford or Big East winner]
This means no consolation prize for the Big 12 loser despite their travelling support. I also would expect some insider dealing to make sure Stanford stays in the West and the Big East winner ends up in the Orange Bowl.
by britishbruin on Nov 27, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Does it even really have to be insider dealing?
I think the Orange would prefer the Big East winner to Stanford, especially if UConn loses next week and WVU goes.
Sugar is gonna be Arkansas, not LSU (lost to Arkansas) or Bama (3 losses).
Stanford fighting Wisconsin for the 4-spot.
Coaches poll is out already—has Wisconsin at #4. Haven’t seen the rest yet.
This is the release from BCS on 11-23-2010:
The following is a list of teams still contending for their conferences’ championships (AQ conferences):
ACC: Florida State, North Carolina State, Virginia Tech
Big East: Connecticut, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia
Big Ten: Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Big 12: Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M
Pac-10: Oregon, Stanford
SEC: Auburn, South Carolina
In addition to those teams, the pool of teams remaining under consideration also includes (in alphabetical order):
Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Boise State, LSU, Nevada, Utah, and TCU
CRN promised better than this ....
CRN should investigate HIMSELF at the end of the season.
CRN recruited the players; hired the coaches; insisted on the Pistol etc. … who must be accounted for this very poor season … again!
I am not looking for our next home game.
CRN Promised
I agree.. we stepped up and joined the Wooden Club this year to get better seats and support the team. This year has been one disappointment after another and with the lows much deeper than the highs. CRN has done nothing this year to show us he is in charge and will tur this around. Why do we have to wait another year. Other schools have seen improvement in 3 years.. This year has been as bad as any of the KDs with very little reason for hope and most of the the posts here call for major changes .. basically starting over .. well then lets start over ..
maybe it is just that yesterday was more than i can handle...
watching our BB’ers fight from behind again and loose, and watching our FB’ers fight from ahead and loose…i am frustrated with UCLA right now…half-empty stadiums and arenas, with our student sections half full at the rose bowl and at pauly pav. barely 2/3 full anymore…even the women’s volleyball team played at home against usc and played to an almost empty pav. wtf? is going on with the fans these days?…is it just the fact that the product is not worth paying money to see?…anyone else bothered by all this?…or maybe it was just such a bleak Black Friday for us BRUINS…i see football stadiums packed with 100,000 people and i want that to be for the BRUINS…but then i see the student section barely 1/3 full at the rose bowl and i think who am i fooling…sad…
Women's volleyball crowd was actually good,
much less for a regular game and that’s why they normally only use half court for games.
Poor Boisie kicker......
From my son at the Las Vegas RJ sports department….
Best line I heard all night…
One copy editor: “That Boise kicker probably wants to kill himself right now.”
Other copy editor: “If he tried to shoot himself, he’d probably miss.”
CRN vs. CKD
There’s been inflammatory and reactionary criticism of Neu in game threads here and certainly in the other Bruin blogs (Bruin Gold, Bruin Zone et. al.). Sometimes the criticisms in over-the-top rhetoric have claimed that things are worse now than under Dorrell. Frontpagers and others “tsk tsk’ed” and pointed out how “bankrupt” Dorrell left the program and how much better the recruiting has been and how we need to give RN time. In the cold light of day, I miss the Dorrell years. Bowl games at least. A win over SUC. There is very little now that is better than then. I hope we trash SUC next week; and that will certainly mean another year for RN. I also suspect if we lose next week RN will be back next year. But increasingly I really wish he wouldn’t. I think his behaviors in public are indicative of the wrong kind of affect, judgment and wisdom necessary of a Leader of a great football program. “Yeah, we don’t know why JetSki didn’t jump.” Yeah, I don’t know why Rick can’t coach.
CRN v CKD
hard to not agree w you Harry, CRN has to mature as a leader and accept blame, he cannot blow up at players on the sideline, call them out post game and then unleash a string of cliches to get us to beleive in him. He reminds me of a corporate type blowhard who always has something to say but never ever lands the big account..
Dorrell was nothing but a mediocre coach
If you’re pining for a return to mediocre Dorrellian football, where we punt from the opponent’s 40 yard line, are afraid to compete with U$C for recruits, and let our players engage in laughable traditions like jumping over the wall instead of practicing, then by all means, go pine for it somewhere else.
At BN, we’re not accepting mediocre football. We are not going to say, “oh well, Dorrell was good enough, let’s go back to never being more than better than 3rd in the conference, because well, its better than this.” The end goal is consistent Rose Bowl berths, competing for the conference championship every year, and being in the national title discussion once every 5-7 years. At the minimum. Accepting less is unacceptable.
No one at BN is saying this season is acceptable, so get your facts straight. This season is a big strike against CRN and believe you me, when the time comes, we’ll chase CRN out of town too if he doesn’t get the job done. For now, given that he has turned this program around in terms of recruiting and marketing, he deserves a shot to see if he can right the ship on the field, since next year, there will be no excuse in terms of talent or depth.
CRN may not be the answer, but KD is definitely not. Go have a Dorrell love-fest somewhere else, because wishing for a return to mediocre Dorrell football (which had one good season due to Olson, MJD, and Marcedes, and that’s it and one lucky perfect-storm victory against U$C coupled with multiple ass-beatings by the Trogans) is not going to cut it at BN.
Dorell
You are completely missing the point. No one is calling for Dorrell’s return but we are making the point that today we are no better than we were then…. make any excuse you wish but CRN has shown nothing to date that says we are on the right path. Hang your hat on recruiting all you want but are any of those recruits making an impact ? are they getting better? are they playing in front of an upperclassman when they should ? Most other major college programs have 1st and 2nd year players making an impact, yet we continue to sit ours…
Barr, Owa, Marsh, Zumwalt, Riley, and others.
First year players who are not sitting.
Are they making an impact? Yes.
Are they getting better? Yes.
Are they playing ahead of upperclassmen? Yes.
Next year is THE critical year.
by orlandobruin on Nov 27, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Can you read?
This was a response to an implied strawman argument, that being that although “we” were solidly against KD for his results, that somehow we’re accepting the results now under a different coach, which is a laughable premise given what has been on the frontpage virtually all season. If that doesn’t qualify as dissatisfaction, then I don’t know what does.
The rest of what you say is already covered by B’s response, so if that’s your point, then he clearly did understand it, which says to me that you’re either just blindly responding for the sake of responding, or are incapable of reading comprehension.
Suffice it to say I think you misunderstood my post
by harry bruin on Nov 27, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
NOT misunderstanding your post
In the cold light of day, I miss the Dorrell years. Bowl games at least. A win over SUC.
I’m sorry you miss that. But that wasn’t good enough then.
The goal is not to give up on prized recruits. The goal is not to go to crappy bowls and lose to the Wyomings of the world. The goal is not to shock *$c once every five years. The goal is not to settle for mediocrity.
If that’s what you miss, then Iowa State, and Minnesota, and Utah State are looking for fans. I can get you links to their SBN sites, if you wish.
And before you even say it, read Bellerophon’s third paragraph above.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Fire Bullough, keep CNC
Only someone not paying close attention this season would make an argument for keeping Bullogh. Not personal, don’t know the man, but he’s gotta go. God awful this year. Not a fan of the bend AND break defense, and Bruin defenders for the most part have not improved year over year. That’s almost Lavin-esque. However, I’m not one of those who thinks CNC should be let go. That feels reactionary. A new offense, a patchwork O-Line (that I would argue over-achieved), under-achieving receivers (great to see Rosario back yesterday), a QB injury … no excuses in Div. 1, but we’re lame if we don’t look closely at circumstances before pushing for what might be the wrong course of action. To me, Chow’s one big mistake this season was blind loyalty to Prince, which compelled him to play him unprepared (after he missed most of training camp) and injured (against Cal). The growth of Brehaut over the past few games further convinces me that Chow missed that one. But that said, I think it would be reactionary to fire him. Maybe even dumb. So …. my opinion… fire Bullogh, keep Chow, get him and CRN on the same page about how to select next year’s starting QB, and let’s look at next season as the real GPS season most of us knew it would be. Four years in, four recruiting classes on the field, no excuses… GO BRUINS!
More darkness ...
In Men’s water polo MPSF tournament semi-finals: Game 8 – (#2 seed) USC 10 def. (#3 seed) UCLA 5.
UCLA plays Cal tomorrow for 3rd place.
Bullough you dumbass
Only you could make Brock Osweiler look like Joe Montana. 595 yards to the backup QB! Makes me wonder what Mustain is going to do to us at the Rose Bowl. Repeat after me BN…FIRE CHUCK’N’CHOW! I can’t believe CNC is going to make a million dollars a year for a net losing record and nearly the worst passing attack in college football. Starting to believe Palmer/Leinart/Bush made Chow, not vice versa.
by Strathmore&Gayley on Nov 28, 2010 6:27 AM PST reply actions
Closing it down.
Moving the conversation on. Beat ’$C Week thread is open here.
We’ll have plenty of time to revisit these issues during what is going to be a long off-season with a bowl game to look forward to, break-down, and analyze.
For now, let’s focus on getting some revenge for last year’s pile on.
F**K $C!
GO BRUINS.
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