What Rick Neuheisel Must Do ...
Bumped (B). 03rdn9 makes some great points on what needs to happen between now and next season.
So yesterday, I woke up at 5:00 am, hopped in the car, and drove to Sun Devil Stadium. I was ecstatic for about 10 minutes, then everything came crashing down. Before I get to my ultimatums, here are some thoughts that I gathered yesterday:
- My thoughts on the pistol have been solidified. Seeing a previously pathetic passing offense turn into an above average one really made me believe that Coach Chow has really begun to get the hang of the Pistol Offense. That is why I want to give Chow another year to "show me."
- CRN openly displayed that both he, and his team lack the instinct and will to win games. After Nelson Rosario was held short of the goal line on 3rd Down, the players hustled back to the ball, even with a review pending. CRN, much like he did on Oregon's goal line stand last year, rushed to the 15 yard line to call a time out-which (say the review wasn't going to happen) would have stolen all of UCLA's momentum, evening out the playing field emotionally. Look at Oregon: Chip Kelly's team was held short on 4th down and inches, and instead of huddling up and calling a play, they rushed to the line and fought for the inch they needed. Leave no doubt. Even though the review slowed down the game, 4th down and goal (all play calling aside) should always go to the offense. The only thing you need when jamming the ball up the middle is the will to beat your opponent. You have to want it more, quite simply. Jaquizz Rodgers, Shane Vareen, Kenjon Barner, Nic Grigsby, and Logwone Mitz can get those yards, so IMO it doesn't matter "who you're using" as much as it matters "how you're using." That right there folks, and the fact that UCLA's defense gave up a 99.99 yard TD drive to boot, was a microcosm of the season.
My ultimatums (so to speak) after the jump:
- Bullough needs to be canned: fundamentally flawed scheming, poor to no in game adjustments, Dorellian mismanagement of talent and developing talent, conservatism.
- Reggie Moore needs to be reevaluated: I give him credit for the development of Ricky Marvray and Randall Carroll, but the poor performance of the future J.J. Stokes (Nelson Rosario) and Taylor Embree is directly reflected in his work, not to mention the poor discipline and performance of the tight ends and F-backs (can we have Jon Embree back?)
- The receivers need to be reevaluated: no starters' jobs can be safe next year: experience or not, poor performance should be punished.
- The management of the offense in the off-season needs to be renovated: Last year, our passing game was neglected in the off-season, that should never happen with a young team- never.
- No more away-Thursday trap games such as @ Autzen, opposing team's senior day, etc. One is enough: we've learned our lesson.
- UCLA should win 8 or 9 games next year. No questions asked, or 7 with a victory over USC. Very simple IMO.
Any complaints? Things to be added?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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I agree most with your comment on CRN lack of desire to win.
I didn’t see much of last night’s game, but how many times in the last 3 year’s have I yelled at the TV to “GO FOR IT!!” ?
I can’t begin to suggest how we can make CRN grow a pair. Firing CB and RM are givens; but will that inspire CRN to show a little backbone? I don’t know. But, like you I would like to hand out some ulitmatums of my own.
Play to win or coach somewhere else.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
I'm not suggesting to get rid of him
I’m suggesting the things that he needs to change (at a minimum) for him to have a job next December. I like CRN, I don’t think any reasonable fan dislikes him, but he needs to change his ways and, like you said, play to win/grow some juevos.
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not ready to dump him yet, either.
But he should call the games like his neck is on the line.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Thoughts on that microcosm
I watched the DVR of the game after getting home from work. To me, that 4th and goal, and the next play on defense, sum up where we are as a program right now.
On 4th down, I said the same thing there as Mexi…“Go for it!!” I am glad we went for it and failed instead of kicking the field goal. I’m glad that the staff at least got that part right. Play to win.
While I agree that 1 foot is a matter of who wants it more, there is still something to be said for having your starting OL vs the patchwork group we have. I don’t know that was the best play call for that situation, but with the QB sneak from of the pistol out of the question, I’m glad they ran instead of some gimmick quick pass. Let’s teach these players what is required to win, gaining that foot when it absolutely matters. And you don’t need a timeout to figure that out. It’s football – just go get it. So there is hope for improvement with more of our OL back in the future.
The whiff on the tackle in the backfield on the ensuing ASU run was sadly predictable. A well coached player shoots that gap with his head up and in control and with good tackling technique. What should have been a safety and big change of momentum back to us became the demoralizing 10yd run for the first, compounded by the personal foul to put them on the 26, one play after we could have taken the lead, and was the start of the end of the game.
Was there a single Bruin amongst us who didn’t know where that drive was going and the game was lost on those two plays?
Looking at those 2 plays, the offensive side did some things right and has promise for better, and those responsible deserve another chance. The defensive side was, once again, an utter failure, and those responsible need to be gone.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Very well put
We have definitely made strides in some way shape or form offensively, but taking repeated steps backwards is grounds for dismissal
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 12:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
RN can do nothing else in my eyes
He has completely screwed the pooch and it’s foolish to think a couple of assistant coaching changes will solve anything. The sooner we abort, the better. Everything falls on Rick’s shoulders – everything! FireKarlDorrell went up after his second season. No need to wait for a fourth to eject a demonstrably worse coach.
you make an interesting point . . .
I don’t know when FireKarlDorrell went up. Only that I found it after his embarrassment at the hands of Utah. I acutally googled the domain name, because if it wasn’t taken, i was going to sure as hell launch it.
Now, if what you say is correct about the two year grace period, then I agree. CRN should be shown the same ‘courtesy’ the last guy was.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Well
It’s ultimately up to DG, but he has to have some say in scheduling matters like that
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
I think Reggie Moore
is way past “re-evaluating.” If the receivers had caught their passes at Kansas State, then maybe KP gains some confidence in throwing, and we win the game. Then the season may have gone in a totally different direction.
That being said, beyond hypotheticals, it was shameful how often our receivers were dropping passes. It was obviously a problem with many of our receivers (Harkey?) but from practice reports and from actual gamedays, there wasn’t a lot of evidence to prove that they were actually practicing to make sure dropped passes didn’t happen. Maybe that’s on CRN too.
Either way, in my mind, RM needs to be fired. The receivers weren’t held accountable to their dropped passes, and RM needs to be held accountable in their steed.
Perfect example on the INT yesterday
Watch the replay. Embree tried to catch that ball against his chest and not with his hands. Boing…
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Also upsetting that they seem not to know where they have to go
cutting just short of the first down line or goal line.
sjh
One of my least favorite qualities
that is poor awareness to the max
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
8 wins next year should be the minimum
And CRN should be on the hot seat regardless of what happens next week.
The youth excuse will no longer fly, as the core of this team will be 2 and 3 year experienced players at nearly every position, all CRN recruits.
The schedule will be manageable. San Jose St. at home. A rebuilding Texas at home. Houston with a new QB on the road. Eliminate Oregon and a trip to Corvallis and add a trip to Utah and Colorado at home.
If it doesn’t happen next year, I am convinced it will never happen under this regime.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
I think that's pretty fair
Unless something completely egregious happens with injuries, it needs to come together next season. Youth and inexperience will not be valid excuses any longer.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
If they weren't invalid right now
The UCLA injury curse has to expire next year
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
03rdn9
Great post. I went through, did some HTML editing to make it a bit easier to read. Hope you don’t mind. I also threw some tags in there, so that folks can find your work when looking back at this season for a reference point.
Please keep up the excellent work!
Ah
Thanks man, I was posting on my iPad with the “HTML View” tab while I traded off driving shifts on the way back from Tempe.
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Knew this day was coming..
Sadly, despite all of the euphoria over the recruiting and the “passion bucket” and the slick contract arrangements with Norm Chow, I had this niggling fear we would be facing the day when all of our lustrous hopes would be tarnished in disappointment.
..this is NOT an “I told you so” post. I was just as eager to dump Dorrell (who was in wa-a-a-a-a-y over his head). But the thing that did it for me was the trait that Dorrell and CRN teams had in common: injuries.
Someone way back told me that repeated injuries to key players were a sign that a team was not prepared. Conditioning was a variable that could be controlled; an aspect of preparation unaddressed. I am probably blowing a lot of hot air here — after all, with many years of coaching football at a major college, I should know. (/sarc) But it’s just something that keeps nagging me over the last three years.
That said, one wonders — even looks forward to, perhaps — the prospect of a coaching search for that elusive of all entities: the marquee coach who will return us to the glory years of Prothro and Donahue and Vermeil (well, year, anyway) or Toledo..
..did I just write that?
I think I need to go back on my meds or have a nice lie-down.
03rdn9, I'm not convinced Chow can properly run the pistol
Chow seems unable to take what the defenses give him, which is one of his main philosophies of running his offense. For the last half of the season, opposing defenses have been biting on the run as soon as it looks like a run, and we’ve done almost nothing to try things like a play action pass over the top in the huge empty spaces. Also, I’m not conviced that we don’t have the personnel to run some of those basic concepts.
Perhaps the most troubling to me is that, for the second week in a row, it looked like the O-line wasn’t on the same page as the rest of the offense. Check out our 2nd down play on the series where we were stopped on 4th and goal versus ASU. On that 2nd down and goal at the 6, we ran up the middle with Jetski, but he was blown up by Burfict at about the line of scrimmage. I was wondering how Burfict was untouched, and replay showed that the right guard PULLED to the right, away from where Jetski was running, effectively taking himself out of the play. WTF? Who pulls their guard on a run up the middle near the goal line? Also, near mid-field against UW, Jones ran the ball up the middle on a play in which the o-line pulled to the left. Needless to say, he was blown up for a two yard loss.
Ah
I’m in the process of downloading both the ASU and Nevada games right now. I’ll provide some evidence here; compared to earlier on in the season, Chow has a much better grasp as to what to call when. Try this metaphor (crude I know, but bare with me)
You have the best handwriting on the block- you know how to write, with any pencil (as long as it has lead). Let’s say that you have a pencil in both hands, the one on the left is dull, but the one on the right is broken, with a little time, you will be able to sharpen the pencil in your left hand, but you can’t fix the one on the right fast enough to finish your essay in time. The only problem (sorry if this is ability"cist" so to speak) is that you are right handed. With enough time, say… another season, you can write left handed.
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see enough improvement to have any hope ..
We just don’t seem to have the fire needed at this level to compete.. I am a lifelong Bruin (with degree on the wall and a set of season seats with a Wooden Club donation to boot. I have sat through some tough games through the years, I remember the blow-outs to Oklahoma and Nebraska back when I was in school.. but I don’t remember getting blown out as often as we have this year. If we are getting better at the Pistol (and I think we are) if we are getting better at recruiting (and I think we are) and if we have higher expectations ,, then why the heck are we getting hammered by Arizona, Washington, Cal ??? I am not one of those who look for us to get into a BSC bowl every year, I just want us to be in the game every week. We should not have even taken the field against Oregon and Stanford, those games were lost before the opening kick-off due to poor planning, attitude and execution. We are a National Program with an incredible fan base, world class education, historic stadium , yet we go into too many games hoping to win… scratch that hoping to not get blown out and that is unacceptable.. to quote my mom from Heaven,, "you will not always win in life but to beat you someone else has to be pretty good because you are pretty good and no one will beat you without you giving them a fight that they will remember.. When someone beats you they will feel like they have won something .. In 2010 our Bruins can’t say that …. and as a fan and alum that is all I ask.. if we get beat … we leave something for the other team to remember and it means something …
Mostly Agree
Chow: I will wait for your updated analysis but I respectfully disagree. I dont’ doubt that there is a learning curve which Chow is currently immersed in. However, that does not excuse his impotent playcalling. Also, his mismanagement of the QB position was one of the main reasons this season blew up in our faces. Chow gets 1 more year to fix things. Either put up or shut up.
CRN: I agree he needs to grow some but he also needs to bust out the whip. Unfortunately, I don’t believe this is a quality that is within Neu nor is Neu comfortable coaching this way. There are many ways (style wise) to be successful (Joe Pa v Saban) program. As long as I can remember, we’ve been the sterotypical Cali laid back surfer boys on the gridiron. Whether that is fair or not is irrelevant to me. You don’t see Miami being stereotyped as being primadonnas from South Beach. UCLA FB lacks toughness, resolve, discipline, killer attitude, etc. that is reflective of the Bama’s, Va Tech’s, Ohio State’s of the college football world. Simply put, CRN needs to build the identity of the FB program that falls in line with the other successful programs around the country.
Moore: Show him the door. Star rankings aside, he has done the least with the most IMO. Our pathetic statistics from this position has to do with Chow and the offense but it does not excuse the poor route running, dropped passes, etc. For all the talent that our WR’s came into the program with, they have failed to develop. Meet Mr. Justin Blackmon who happened to be ranked the #58 WR out of HS. He was ranked lower than most, if not all of our WR recruits. Yes, there are tons of highly touted recruits that bomb at the college level but for us to witness the inept play from our WR’s that we’ve seen the past few years is simply unacceptable.
Hundley: You’re next. There is no excuse why our CB’s cannot be taught to track the damn football. Turn your freakin’ head around. This is basic coaching 101. I’m sure Hundley is coaching this (I hope) but if the players are not responding, it falls on you. You as the coach need to get it through their heads. Our technique is porous at best in coverage and run support. I don’t want him to mess up the Hilliard’s and Riley’s of the world because they have talent and potential.
Ganz: You get another year. If Josh is fumbling punt returns, you need to figure out a way for him to fix this problem. You need to figure out how to get our best weapons on the field.
Coaching: I’m encouraged by the development of some of our cubs. However, I’m seeing too many highly touted guys turn into pumpkins once they get to Westwood. Whether this is a coaching issue or scouting issue, it still falls on the coaches since it’s their job and they’re the ones identifying the kids to recruitl. Also, we still lack discipline, resolve, etc. that I stated earlier. To me, this falls directly on the coaches. Get it fixed. No excuses.
There should be no excuses next year (as long as we don’t get devastated by injuries). Personally, this team should win 8-9 games including a W against suc. If not, I’m looking for a new coach.
Very good response
You make some great points. You really should consider putting this in a stand-alone FanPost with your extended thoughts.
I agree with him too
Forgot about Ganz there. Great points all together
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 28, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Great!
For anyone following the conversation in this thread, BlueReign’s great points can be found here.
We have not been "soft" this year -- we have been inept
We have played some smash mouth football — just ask the teams we’ve played, especially Texas whose calling card is “toughness”.
And, until the ASU game, I don’t think we ever gave up, no matter how far down.
Our kids have been physical, they’ve just not been skilled. For example, when our D backs actually get a body on someone and/or wrap him up — it’s usually a hard hit.
I don’t see Zonker Harris in this mix. I see a bunch of tough kids who don’t know how to use their toughness.
We don’t need to develop aggression — we need to channel it.
sjh
Looking to 2011
Will we really be better next year?
Defense:
D-backs- They play like they are on Dancing with the Stars, they want the Hollywood limelight everytime they make the plays they are supposed to make and are overall soft and play way too far off the ball. Without a pass rush, well coached teams just pick them apart. I really won’t miss Moore too much and his motor mouth next year. Play with your pads, not your mouth. Riley will make a few mistakes next year but lay the wood whenever given the opportunity.
Backers- Zumwalt will be a future star from my alma mater, but just too young right now to be a force. Ayers is a flatout baller with unreal intsincts and may have had enough of a low key second half of the season to stick around another year. The little guy on the other side is all heart but not a force and should never be our starting OLB.
DL- Owa will be out his mind once he learns a few more moves and uitlizes his speed better. He’s been trying to bull rush men older and bigger than him and it’s hindered his affectiveness. Marsh will continue to improve each year and become a force by his junior season. Opposite Marsh, we will need someone to come out of the clouds and really improve. Carter has been a pleasant surprise this year (fairly steady) but who will pick up after him. Chandler isn’t nasty enough, and the kid who I had hoped would make a great impression (epanessa) may be just too damn nice (quit smiling). The other end will be either Holmes, Coleman, or… can’t remember his name I’ve been putting up Christmas light for 3 hours.
Offense:
OL- I envision the starting OL something like this: LT-Baca LG-Ward C-Maiava RG-Hasiak RT-Harris This OL will be somewhat similar to this years line. We wont’ dominate in the run game and be very average in pass protection. With any luck the extra year for all, especially with Hasiak and Baca missing the year they may be a more hungry and aggressive group.
QB-Pick your poison. Brehaut and Prince both have the same deficiencies in staring down their #1 option and not checking down. Personally, I think Brehaut has more upside but isn’t as strong mentally at this point in his career.
Receiver- Marvray, Jones, Carrol, done… If Jones & Carrol can’t figure it out right away go to anyone else. Nobody wants the ball like Marvray and if they can combine his tenacity with a feel for the position we would have good receivers. They run routes like robots with their head up their as… Cooks??? Embry has been such a dissappointment in every aspect of his game this year and Rosario is just too slow and non-chalant for my liking.
F-Back- Can we send Joe back to ND? He seems more suited for modeling than football. Is he too busy chasing chicks or what… It’s time to man-up Joe or give back the Scholy. ABarr is so raw it’s hard to tell how he’ll pan out. He seems so lackadaisical in his route running it frustrates the crap out of me, because if he gets the ball in space he should be lethal with his speed, but he appears lost in space… literrally. And what happened to Harkey’s hands? Frostbite damage over the summer?
RB- We have very capable RB’s top to bottom. I hated to see us burn Jones’ RS year, but you have to see how they do sometimes and I don’t fault them for it. If they all can hold onto the damn ball we’ll be solid at this position.
All in all, I really think we have the talent, but do we have the mentality to be a winning program? It has seemed for the past few years that we want to win but won’t go out and take the win’s. Simply put, we’re not playing tough enough in all aspects of the game. It’s like these talented kids get softened by the beauty and location of this awesome university. If they would only muscle-up they could truly be a hell of a football team. I’m going to cut Norm slack, because frankly, his skill players have been soft and his O-Line has been less than mediocre. Bullough should ride out of town in my mind. I think we could all call as good of games as he has. Moore get’s one more year to prove himself and then the party’s over.
Can anyone give me a different more optomistic view of 2011?
You just gave yourself an optimistic look
I love that lineup you just put up. You’re forgetting guys like Brett Hundley at QB too. Next year is the show-me year for Neuheisel, he has nothing else to fall back on.
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 28, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
100% agree
Next year is the Rick Neuheisel “show me” season, and in large part, that season begins next Saturday. Saturday’s game goes a long way in setting the tone for the off-season and next year.
No doubt
Nothing a W against USC can’t heal in terms of local recruiting
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 28, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
= Dorrell's last / Neuheisel's first recruiting class
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 28, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Well
Dorrell couldn’t recruit real talent after Bienemy left
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 28, 2010 10:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You're forgetting a lot of guys RSM
Defensive Backs: With Moore announcing he’s returning for his senior year, we’ll be returning all four starters to the secondary. Yes, they played terrible this year, but there is still a lot of talent in this group. With proper coaching, a decent defensive scheme, and some help from their defensive line getting pressure on opposing QBs, they still have a lot of upside next year, especially with guys like Riley, McDonald, and Jefferson in position to be long-term replacements.
Linebackers: I agree that Zumwalt is the future star of this defense and really looks to be a better version of Christian Taylor. He has Spencer Havner potential. Ayers’ return to the squad is really up in the air and I’d be surprised if he passed up the NFL to return (then again, despite his likely high draft position, the possibility of NFL labor problems could keep him here). Westgate is not a long term answer, so hopefully someone can bring Isaiah Bowens, Aramide Olaniyan, or Todd Golper along. Although, if Larimore returns and can stay healthy, we can slide Zumwalt over and start Zumwalt, Larimore, and Ayers (assuming he returns).
Defensive Line: Obviously, Owa and Marsh will be starting. But you’re forgetting that we get Datone Jones back from injury at the other DE spot, which allows us to use Holmes, Tepa, and Graham in a reserve role (while hopefully Graham and Tepa develop). You also forget that highly-recruited freshman Brandon Willis transferred in from UNC this year and is eligible next year as a redshirt freshman. Then there is still Epenesa (who is just a freshman, so cut him some slack) and Donovan Carter returning as well.
Offensive Line: Getting Jeff Baca and Kai Maiava back from injury will be a huge boost. Likewise, super-stud youngster Chris Ward will have another year behind him. Harris will be back as well, but don’t count on Hasiak. He hasn’t shown us that he can keep his head long enough to stay in the program and the smart money is him screwing the pooch again.
Quarterback: You’re forgetting that super-stud and perfectly-suited for the pistol Brett Hundley is enrolling early and should participate in spring practice, giving him a shot at the job. Given his performance this year, I can’t see how Brehaut won’t be in the mix to start as well. If Prince manages to keep his job, I’ll be shocked (esp. if his performance doesn’t improve, whereas we’ve see Brehaut get better over time).
Wide Receivers: I agree that the other guys need to be starting ahead of Embree and Rosario until the two of them can shake off whatever it is causing them to play lazy and drop everything thrown their way, but you also forget that Jerry Johnson will be back from injury, Josh Smith will still be around next year. Also, we don’t have anyone in the WR corps named Jones, so you lost me there. But we also have Notre Dame transfer (and former highly touted recruit) Shaq Evans available next year.
F-Back and TE: Hard to knock Fauria when he’s been benched behind a guy with stone hands (Harkey). If we dump Reggie Moore and bring in someone who can develop these guys, hopefully Presley and Barr will come around next year.
Running Backs: Everyone will be back from our deepest unit. Jet Ski, Coleman, and Malcolm Jones will all be in the mix. We’ll also have Jordon James available. If our offensive line improves, the running game should remain solid.
Anyway, I think you’ve forgotten some guys who could be key next year. Just a couple of thoughts.
Just looking at that defense
Makes me very very excited if CRN can place a real DC in Westwood. Offensively, those names should foreshadow great things given the crazy talent levels. You and I could get to 6 wins with that roster B, no reason as to why CRN should be held to anything less than 8 wins
by Josh Schlichter on Nov 28, 2010 10:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
B. Agree Completely -- If people stay healthy, we will be much deeper
It’s really not fair to put a hard knock on Fauria — I think he’s been lost in the mix. He’s had very few catchable balls thrown to him. For example, he had great separation on the play against ASU and Brehaut threw the ball several feet above his head. He made a good catch, for a touchdown, on a ball that was not well thrown.
The other thing that we usually see when freshmen become sophomores is that they get bigger over the intervening summer. These are kids and their bodies are growing.
sjh
I agree on Fauria
Hence me saying it’s hard to knock the kid for his lack of production. He should see the field more.
Oline
If we are going to improve on offense, two or more of our freshman OLineman will have to break into the lineup – provide pass protection and drive on running plays. Chris Ward, Wade Yandall, Gregg Capella and/or Cody Innes will have to show why they were recruited. Otherwise, we will continue to be inconsistent on offense.

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