Beat SUC or else! What do you say?
by uclahy on Nov 28, 2010 1:29 AM PST
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PrintI nearly gagged on my own spittle when I read that Dan Guerrero announced that CRN is returning as head coach next year, presumably no matter what happens at next week's SUC game, even if we get creamed yet again for all the world to see and wind up a disastrous and disgraceful 4-8, 2-7 in the PAC-10 and 9th place in the conference, if we're lucky.
The subtext of this incredibly irresponsible and premature announcement is that the head coach (1) with the worst three year record in the history of UCLA football, (2) whose team has been humiliated and made the laughingstock of college football in at least five Pac-10 blowouts this year alone, (3) who insisted on playing the worst performing passer in all of major college football until he literally blew out his knee and was lost for the season, (4) who squandered the development of a clearly superior passing quarterback for almost a year and a half and (5) who is responsible for the most undisciplined, sloppy tackling, and pathetic defensive team in major college football today is somehow performing at an acceptable level for our Athletic Director.
In fact, his record is so acceptable, that his boss has now said he is coming back before we even know the outcome of the final game of the season with our arch-rival, before we even know if we win by some miracle or whether we stink up the joint like we did last year at SUC or like we have already done in so many humiliating and embarrassing performances this year. The SUC game does not matter. This terrible season does not matter. The first two years don't matter. Everything is okay in Bruin football land.
I thought UCLA was the place where "Champions are made." Give me a break. If Guerrero has already made up his mind no matter what happens against SUC this Saturday, then, when it comes to our football coaches at least, our real mottos are: "Losers are lauded, posers are praised, scapegoaters are saved, excusers are enabled and the incompetent are unaccountable."
Only now, after Guerrero's statement, the incompetence is higher than I ever imagined. He may be fine with our head coach's three year, program-killing train wreck, but some of the loyal fans of the proudest four letters in college sports are tired of the endless tolerance of hot air that has masqueraded as coaching the past three years at Spaulding Field.
Winning isn't everything, despite what Coach Red Sanders used to say, and every coach deserves a fair shot to get his ducks in order, but if a commitment to excellence is not demanded and expected after three years it will never be achieved. We have not only lost football games, we have lost miserably without even really competing, again and again and again in the PAC-10, for three years running. And Guererro is fine with it even if we lose to the worst SUC team in some ten years. Are you?
I think Dan needs to put some fire under CRN and his staff. This program is in critical condition. Complacency should neither be tolerated nor encouraged. Is it too soon to insist, "Beat SUC or else!" What say you, fellow Bruins?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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I would like to agree. I'm certainly as frustrated as you are.
I would like to see a massive student protest on campus after a USC loss next week.
But, the reality is we’re stuck with our coaching staff for the immediate future. It’s been asked if UCLA football is cursed and I finally realize that it is. It is cursed by an administration that doesn’t care about winning in Football. Take a look at Miami which just yesterday fired Coach Shannon Brown after 4 years, and having just given him a 4 year extension. Considering the buyout cost of firing him, the only really important fact that comes to mind is that Miami is committed to winning in Football, and therefore the buyout cost is irrelevant. UCLA would never in my imaginings shell out that kind of cash to improve it’s program.
For this reason, I think CRN and CNC should be kept together. Having just given Chow a 2 year extension, I find it only fitting that they stay together and/or go together. As far as I’m concerne their fates are inextricably linked for the short term.
Finally, even if we were in a position to hand out this kind of ulitmatum, I don’t think it would matter. The only thing these coaches have proven to me is that they will find a way to lose. For the first time ever in my association with UCLA, I go into the City Championship with 0% faith in pulling out a win.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
I already have accepted the fact
that come rain or shine, Guerrero just wouldn’t make any move until next season ends. That means we all have to put up with the same, old thing next season, with perhaps one or two games at the win column, max.
I am interested about Guererro’s rationale too.
You know, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree
Guerrero alone is one food the ost successful athletic directors in UCL history, not to mentoin NCAA history. Without his guidance we wouldn’t have broken 100 championships we did. In 8 years we have won 20 national championships in 11 different sports. More than any other program in at time span in NCAA history. So yes, I’m sorry I believe your attacks on him are incredibly unwarranted, as he has proven he can move UCLA forward, and HONESTLY. No scandal taint like the $UCERS across town. He is NO Mike Garrett.
While I see your frustration for voicing his support for our coach before the end of the season, it’s what CRN should have done when questioned about Norm Chow when the Trogan Times was trying to instigate a war of words to break up our locker kroon just 1 week ago asking about norm chows future. Frankly, they have at least one more year, to show us what direction UCLA is going. But I am telling you now, firing them would only be 2 steps backwards. This has been beaten to death but our OL isn’t even the starters we had listed in the Spring, our QB was playing at 60 or 70 percent all season with a recurring injury from high school, and yes our WRs have underperformed, I think that is on Reggie Moore. Our defense is young though I hate Bulloughs scheme, but we do NOT have a solid Defensive Line, its had a few decent moments, but nothing like last year. Unfortunately, we have been plagued with too many inconsistencies that our Ar not our coaches fault. It’s just bad luck, someone even posted that we have had over 20 surgeries this year alone.
In conclusion, I have no problem with Guerrero guaranteeing Neuheisel another year. It demonstrates leadership, and while we have no excuse NOT to beat u$c this year, since we are not going to a bowl game, we need consistent play, and more importantly consistent Healthy starters in order to move us forward. It took John Wooden 16 years to win his first championship, and yes I know he may have had more notable wins, it took Him time to get the pieces all together. I know we are better than this, the coaches know we are better than this. And Rick Neuheisel knows hes on the hot seat. He’s said it countless times. And a unless were going to bring in Harbaugh or a Mke Riley, I am in no hurry to change coaches.
Stupid iPad, sorry guys the first sentence should read
Guerrero is one of the most successful athletic directors*
I understand your iPad issue
I’m still trying to get used to mine doing the same thing. Hard to retrain yourself sometimes.
On the larger issue, a simple no comment would be better than passing judgment before our final, and rivalry game of the season. The AD needs to send a message the mediocrity is unacceptable IMO.
I dedfinitely agree with you on the tone of our success and what should be expected by our program,
Mediocrity should never be accepted, especially after this past decade which I will just call the black hole of UCLA football. But given the fact that we had severe depth issues when we inherited this program, we have had to build from the bottom. I will agree that other programs were able to build quicker than we were, but www also sueffered major setbacks to our QB, our OL, and even our Defense, though Bulloughs should be able to do more With what we have. I will say its not like Rick Neuheisel came into UCLA with Lane Kiffins depth at u$c, we had a lot of mediocrity, and worse yet, I honestly believe Kevin prince was not honest with the coaches about his level of pain, and it hindering his ability to play. That set us back heavily from putting in Brehaut sooner.
I like Guerrero and in agree he should hbe more aggressive about our big revenue sports but howlanda was a great get. And I believe Neu, and Chow will get this offense rolling if we get back sua filo and some other bigs up front for solid pass protection. Also, if we can have our starting QB start for more than 5 games in a row, I believe we will be in a great position to compete.
Aoqther thing people fail to mention or maybe realize is this PAC 10 is NOTHING lime the one that existd der Karl Dorrell. This is PAC 10 in steroids (figuratively speaking). I have not seen this many good teams competing for the championship since I have been a UCLA fan, and so I am willing to be a little more patient on that merit alone. I’M not trying to make excuses, but its obvious that $UC couldnt keep up last year or even the year before.
GO BRUINS!!
Oh my god, it would be nice to be able to edit posts after posting, I sound "special"
" Another thing people fail to mention or realize is this PAC 10 is nothing like the one that existed during Karl Dorrells tenure. * "
I sincerely apologize for my stupid typing.
GO BRUINS
The joy of being a front-pager
When I screw up, I can delete my own post and do it again. ;)
by Bellerophon on Nov 28, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
As far as retaining CRN
That decision should already be known prior to the outcome of the SC game. Retaining or firing a coach based on the outcome of that game has led to mistakes (i.e. 13-9 retaining Dorrell for an additional year). I hope to god nobody needed a “win one for CRN” motivation in order to beat SC, and if they did, we’ve already lost regardless of the AD decision.
“No comment” in this day and age, given the hyperactive media, would suggest that Guerrero is considering firing CRN. If that isn’t the case, a message needs to be sent to the contrary.
Agree or not with the decision; but it shouldn’t appear to hinge on a single game, regardless of who’s on the other side of the field.
Go Bruins!
CRN stays, but changes have to be made..
I honestly cant imagine a realistic scenario where CRN isnt back next year.
However, he must make some significant changes to his staff, such as:
Bullough has to go, no matter what happens this weekend.
Reggie Moore has to go as well
Hundley, I dont know, the secondary sure has been lit up recently, but I understand he is highly regarded, so he probably stays
Clark Lea, another tough call. Linebackers were extremely inconsistent and almost seemed lost sometimes.
Anyway, some heads are going to roll, maybe even Chow’s, but CRN will be back and it isnt unreasonable for DG to give him one more year…
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Nov 29, 2010 11:30 AM PST reply actions
Frankly your post makes me think your head is up your anus!
You either know nothing of the culture at Ucla or nothing about building a program in the PAC 10-12 from ground zero. When AG hired CRN, with the exception of Price and A. Verner, the cupboard was bare. It’s also not like Bruin football has an unlimited budget for hiring big name or highly sought after head coaches and assistants. Remember Ucla is a state university under the thumbs of UC Berkeley as compared to some of the football factories i.e. across town and around the country.
Maybe in your dreams someone could come into this program and do a better job with mostly freshmen, sophmores and a rag-tag group of gutsy but mostly untalented upperclassmen with only two years of mostly high school recruits selected by a new coaching staff. Again IMO no one would have come close in recruiting as did CRN et al.
And in my not so humble opinion, any expectations to get better results let alone to a conference contender in less than four years could only have been accomplished had the cupboards been well stocked with some beefy and mobile experienced lineman. When CRN et al came in there was less than a handful of talent laden prospects upon which to build a program.
I suggest you bring your head out for some daylight and get real before spouting off.
This program in spite of a very tough schedule and an injury plagued team, 13+ injured or ineligible who did not return to the team this year but will be back next year, did about as well as expected. Given 1-2 more years of recruits selected by CRN, the return of those injured players and a few talented players who red-shirted and we will be fighting it out for conference championships year after year with BCS aspirations.
Frankly people who use this website to air opinions like yours, I find not only in bad taste but as classless as to be expected from a Trogan alum, not a true-blue and dedicated Bruin fan.
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