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Spaulding Roundup: Tackling Concerns, Brehaut’s "Comfort", "Nasty" Beavers & Other UCLA Notes

We can delve into all the details around Bruins' upcoming matchup against the Beavers but none of it is going to matter of Chuck Bullough's unit doesn't figure out how to tackle. We can talk about Bullough's vanilla schemes, implore him to mix it up and get aggressive, but none of that is to work, if Bullough's unit is not coached up in fundamentals of basic tackling.

Tackling should be UCLA's one of most important concern at this point of the year. If they don't get this right or revert to the form that made them look like above average unit against Houston and Texas, this season is going to be lost. Yet unfortunately due to injury issues, Bruins have not been spending time during practice partaking in live tackling drills. This was one of the main topics in Coach Rick Neuheisel's post practice interview session yesterday at Spaulding:

I am not sure where I fall on this issue. I think there are strong arguments on both side. I totally understand Neuheisel's decision to not deploy live tackling drills since we are basically down to a true freshman at MLB, a hobbled Akeem Ayers, thin secondary, and other injury issues all over the team (more on that later in the post). Yet, I also think there is an urgency about needing to get these issues resolved through practice. It's not comforting to me when I hear the coaches are just "talking" about the need to tackle and working on addressing it.

I am not sure how effective their "teaching" is going to be if they don't actually get to work through it during practices leading up to game days. Would be interested in hearing others thought on this specific topic because I am not sure if there is a clear black and white answer on the topic. More  after the jump.

Star-divide

As CRN mentioned the performance was mixed as the offense was trying out "some wrinkles" and "things." Guess Wednesday is the day to experiment with new wrinkles at Spaulding. It will be interesting to see if we actually see new twists on game day. Jon Gold posted the following bits immediately after practice:

* Richard Brehaut looked better in the short game today than yesterday, but had some overthrow issues when they went deep. He had a couple very nice tosses to Josh Smith and Ricky Marvray, but missed Nelson Rosario deep, had a bad Rosario drop, and there were some route issues. On one long play, it looked like Brehaut wasn't even throwing to Smith, who ran a completely different route.

* Ricky Marvray had the play of the day with a beautiful one-handed grab - truly one-handed, just stuck it up there and snagged it - but also had a bad drop.

* The surprise of the day to me? Very late in practice, with the twos running against a hybrid of the first and second defense, Jerry Rice Jr. caught a pass and absolutely tore off down the field. I'm not saying to expect anything from him or that he should be in the rotation, but that was a heck of a play.

Here are Peter Yoon's notes essentially echoing the same points. Yoon also reported that Ayers has been hobbled by a "severe case of turf toe":

Ayers said he has been battling through a bruised shoulder and a severe case of turf toe and that the turf toe -- which causes acute pain and swelling in the joint of his big toe--has been harder to shake because of all the planting and change of direction required in football.

"The toe controls this whole body right here," he said. "This is my first time having it and I heard people talking about turf toe and I'm like ‘How are you going to let your toe hold you out? You should be able to continue what you're doing.' But it's a big thing. It feels like it just holds the whole body together."

The injuries both happened during the Texas game in Week 4, Ayers said. In the first four games of the season, he dominated with 29 tackles, 5.5 tackles for a loss, two sacks, two interceptions, two pass breakups, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. In the four games since, he's had 16 tackles, 1.5 tackles for a loss, one sack, one forced fumble and one pass breakup.

It leads us to the same question we had around Kevin Prince. If Ayers wasn't 100 percent why did the coaches use him so heavily in our last two games? Why not give a young guy like Isaiah Bowens some shots? I don't buy the excuse about young guys having a tough time to catch up with Bullough's schemes (they don't seem to be too complicated because most of us can sniff it out just by watching it on TV). Anyway, Ayers is apparently now "close to 100%" and "expects to return to form" against Oregon State this weekend. Hope that is the case.

Gold takes a more extensive look at our injury issues this season:

The result: Out of 22 projected starters going into the season, just nine have started every game.

The result: UCLA is 3-5 and reeling after three straight losses.

"People out in the world don't understand how frustrating it is," UCLA junior safety Rahim Moore said. "You don't have your starting defensive end Datone Jones, who worked his butt off - me and him roomed up in the summer to get our bodies right, eat healthy, get ready for the season - and he goes down in the first week of practice. Sheldon Price goes down (for two games), and he had a great opening season. Prince, Maiava. All our guys.

"We need those guys."

To Rahim's credit in the same piece he didn't make any excuses:

"I don't think it's a depth thing," Moore said. "Look, guys need to grow up fast. Too many excuses about guys being young. I once played as a freshman, and I never used the excuse of me being young. I was accountable and being a grown man. These guys aren't freshmen anymore.

"You're a ballplayer. You're a Bruin. Go out there and do what you do best."

Speaking of no excuses, we haven't heard much of it from Richard Brehaut who is getting "comfortable" with every start:

Brehaut talked about how he is getting better at making the right reads but needs to focus on the execution part of it as evidence in his missing of Embree on a deep route and of Jerry Johnson on a slant route v. Arizona. Brehaut also needs to work on being more decisive in terms of keeping the ball and getting some yardage out of his mobility (he is mobile enough). From the LA Times:

In his two previous starts, he was handing off significantly more than keeping it. When Brehaut does carry the ball, it has usually come near the goal line. Four times he has hung onto the ball on plays inside the 10-yard line, two of which resulted in touchdowns.

"I think he just has to be a little bit more decisive and trust his instincts," Neuheisel said. "When you're trying to follow rules, like a guy learning a golf swing, you get a little mechanical. I think he just has to use his eyes and trust himself."

I think lot of that will happen organically once he gets more and more comfortable with added reps. Perhaps the most interesting nugget re. Brehaut is the following comment from Josh Smith in the  OC Register:

"He has a great arm, it's really strong," Smith said of Brehaut. "I like that he trusts us to come down and make those plays for him. Even if there's pressure, he knows I'm going to be at a spot and he can zip it there. You can't coach that."

We saw that on Saturday. Can't wait to see how Brehaut builds on those moments against Oregon State.

Speaking of the Beavers, interesting piece in the Oregonian about their OL needing to get "nasty" (yeah, I can already picture gbruin and tasser10 giggling at my post's headline):

The consensus among those around the Valley Football Center -- whether it's said on or off the record -- is that the offensive line is a bunch of nice guys. And that is precisely the problem.

"We've gotta have some tough guys, guys who are grinders," Cavanaugh said."I look at some of the guys we've had -- Gregg Peat, Adam Speer -- these guys could be as good as those guys, it's just how they approach the game. ... "We've got a lot of nice guys. I'd like to see the nastiness."

Center Alex Linnenkohl, a three-year starter, is convinced the nastiness is there. Somewhere.

Linnenkohl said the difference in finishing and not finishing blocks, and being nasty instead of nice takes just "a second and a half more of blocking."

Uh, I sure hope their character transformation doesn't materialize at the expense of Chuck Bullough's defense (although my stomach is already turning thinking about it). Hope whatever the coaches are "teaching" wrt to tackling produce results for the Bruins on Saturday.

GO BRUINS.

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Tackling

I am concerned as well. To my mind there are two good solutions to the concerns of injuries vs. the need for practice:

1. in the annals of football there must be some low impact tackling technique drills.
2. Why not practice tackling early in the week but let up later in the week. This gives young bodes a better chance to heal.

In any case, this is a must practice item judging by all the missed tackles.

by DCBruins on Nov 4, 2010 6:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Tackling drills

When I was doing tackling drills, it was all about just “popping” and wrapping up. Then 10 other players can knock him down. There really isn’t any reason for alarm if we aren’t going full speed in angle tackles (or ACL tearing Drill), or any super macho tombstone/Oklahoma drills. That, as with the rest of the nation, is for Hell Week

by Josh Schlichter on Nov 4, 2010 7:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

But is practicing wrapping up at low speed good enough?

Getting your arms around someone dogging down the field is very different from trying it on someone juking, weaving and spinning out of tackles.

A lot of our missed tackles were due to the ball carrier having some moves – not always great moves. It seems like we need to give our guys some practice at taking down someone who doesn’t want to go nicely.

by KnudsenRockne on Nov 4, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

Since Spaulding seems to be the Bermuda Triangle of college football, I feel ambivalent about the tackling drills.

Honestly, does it seem to anyone else this football team doesn’t really know how to respond to anything? I feel like one week, we see bad pass blocking, then work a bunch on pass blocking but next week it’s bad run blocking, or bad route running, then we work on that, etc. etc. etc. I never feel like we forge our own identity because we never have the fundamentals down. We just respond to the problems that occur week-to-week with no overall shift in this team’s ability to win football games. Always ALWAYS troubled me.

by OswegoBruin on Nov 4, 2010 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

This goes back to my concern about *teaching*

When I see people able to do one thing well and forgetting the rest, I wonder if they have no ‘big picture’. Fitting a lot of techniques into a grand scheme is easier than remember a lot of ‘to do’ list items for specific cases. Are they just being taught: in this case, do this; in that case, do that – all without knowing how the pieces fit into concert?

I think our position coaches are not teaching our players. Maybe each position is too isolated?

by KnudsenRockne on Nov 4, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ayers

Turf toe, makes sense. It’s one of those seemingly nothing injuries that is surprisingly debilitating, especially for a player whose game is about speed and quickness. In a way, I’m relieved that there is an injury. I think we got so used to seeing Ayers dominate on defense that his mediocre performances of late have been glaring. I can only assume, since our coaches truly know which players should be playing [/s] that Ayers with turf toe is better than a healthy sub.

greg in denver - UCLA guy for life

by gbruin on Nov 4, 2010 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

My Worry

Is that Ayers’ injury will heal, leaving him time to declare for the draft. Thus, we get him when he’s hobbled, and lose him after the season. The worst of both worlds.

by OswegoBruin on Nov 4, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Another wasted Bruin talent..

by Bruin'96 on Nov 4, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be shocked if he doesn't declare

Unless you’re a kicker or a backup QB, the life of an NFL player is short…

by CPOBruin on Nov 4, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

If his draft stock drops too much due to his injuries

it might not be financially a good decision to go pro next year.

by captainqtp on Nov 4, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind

an NFL Lockout. Haven’t really been into the NFL the last couple of years. Part of that is because LA doesn’t have a team, the other is because I’m a Tamba Bay fan and we’ve sucked the last two years and are never on TV.

I considered buying the NFL package so I could watch BP and ATV amongh other Bruins…that’s my only interest in the NFL now. I opted to buy season seats for UCLA instead, don’t regret that regardless of the current record. Love being at the Rose Bowl amongh all the Bruins.

by King J77 on Nov 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I applaud your appropriation of funds

LA really needs an NFL team though. At least that way I’ll get to watch something on Sundays that’s not the M-Fing Chargers every M-Fing week.

by Tydides on Nov 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree

Hate to say it, but keeping Ayers by default with a peaking program (hopefully) and forgetting the local pro team for a season, versus losing a stud to the draft and watching more of the Hoodie Jr disaster here in town — easy choice. Strike!

greg in denver - UCLA guy for life

by gbruin on Nov 4, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys

No problem with writing and complaining about discussing the “soft” culture of UCLA. However, we don’t use words that are inappropriate for this community. Thanks.

by Nestor on Nov 4, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Chirobruin!

 Chirobruin made a great rebuttal to the charge that I said we had thugs on the team. He summed up most of what I wanted to say. I just wanted to add that I have heard the charge that UCLA Football and it’s players are soft for over a decade. During that time, we have had 3 head coaches and upteen asst coaches.
  My point is and still is that we have something organic in our football program that breeds the concept that we are soft. The term “gutty little Bruin” goes back as far as I can remember. Implied in that statement is the fact that we can only recruit undersize players who play with their hearts and not their brawn. I guess implicit has always been the comparison to players across town. Our players are different from their players.
  When I hear the term soft coming from sportswriters in the Bay Area or Las Vegas then I start to think that there might be something to the charge or at least that is the perception that the football world has of our program. What is the perception in the recruiting world?

by Twothphry on Nov 4, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

people with a better grasp of the history than I

object to the overuse of “gutty little Bruin”; not sure if you have this quite right.

Also, you seem to be saying that we have ‘gutty’ players historically, and also that we have ‘soft’ players. This seems contradictory.

by britishbruin on Nov 4, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have always managed...

a few tough ass players every year or so but as a whole we’ve been perceived as being soft. Last year we had Brian Price as an example. Ayers, when healthy is a tough nosed player but the perception as long as I can remember, and that goes back to our single-wing days, is that we are not very tough.

by Twothphry on Nov 4, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are most welcome Twothphry

Although people will not know what you are referring to due to the fact that both of our comments were taken down. I too abhor the “gutty little bruins” term. One of the points I made in my original comment was that we have never seemed to do well in the lines on both side of the ball. With the exception of a few studs (Jon Ogden comes to mind) our best players who have succeeded in the NFL are not lineman. We seem to produce alot of NFL caliber players at DB, LB, receivers and RB. Possibly, in that order. Smash mouth football starts with getting the best lines on both sides of the ball.

by chirobruin on Nov 4, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back in the day tackling drills

Now I know I am an old fart but I recall in my dotage of a tackling drill in high school where a huge and heavy bag about five feet tall was hung by a short length of rope from a hook on the cross bar. Defensive players spent a lot of time at this. You drove into the dummy,and lifting it up driving thru it. If you did not do it right you kept doing it with the passing mark being able to knock it off the hook. You soon learned technique so that when you hit a runner in a game you wrapped him up and drove thru which also like the bag knocked him over. Simplicity and it worked with only your pride injured and your ears assaulted by a raging coach. Our HS ream was the best in the state even tho I had little to do with such success. This would help forestall injuries during practice and improve techniques.

by john4justice on Nov 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Can it be adapted

to help train defensive players to wrap up guys trying to elude them?

by KnudsenRockne on Nov 4, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Issue of the week.

I’m going to say that tackling will not be a problem on Sat. But, just like every game, some new area of concern will crop up. We’re just not consistant in any given area. Placing bets on the issue(s) of week after Oregon St. game.

by Bruin'96 on Nov 4, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Penalties

Did better last week….so we are due this week

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Nov 4, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've been pretty good

at not converting 3rd downs thus far, so my guess is that this weekend we will SUCK at not converting 3rd downs. =p

by Chris09 on Nov 4, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tackling cure = WRESTLING...

One thing I would do, as a former wrestler and DB on the football team, would prescribe some basic wrestling practice (true collegiate/Olympic style, NOT that WWE crud) in the off-season, say once or twice a week working out with some experienced wrestlers.

It may sound funny, but there is so much to be gleaned: understanding the balance required and feeling the angles when trying to take a guy down, for example. It’s also low-impact, assuming they’re using proper wrestling mats, and thus the risk of injury is very low, particularly if they are just practicing standard take-down techniques.

One guy that I know of on the current team with a wrestling background is … Jordan Zumwalt.

Here’s a sampling of some top NFL talent, who had a background in wrestling, some of whom were champions in HS or college. Suffice it to say, they knew how to tackle.

Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens – 2x FL State Champ
Warren Sapp, DT Buccaneers – FL State Champ
Tony Siragusa, DT, Baltimore Ravens – NJ State Champ
Bruce Smith, DE, Washington Redskins
Randy White, DT, Dallas Cowboys
Leo Wisniewski, NT, Colts – PA State Champ
Rhonde Barber, SS, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tedy Bruschi, ILB, New England Patriots
Cory Schlesinger, LB, Detroit Lions – NE State Champ
Bob Bruenig, LB, Dallas Cowboys
Tom Cousineau, LB, Cleveland Browns – 3rd State
Curley Culp, DL, Kansas City Chiefs – NCAA Champ
Coy Wire, LB, Buffalo Bills – PA State Runner-Up
La’Roi Glover, DE, Dallas Cowboys, CA state champ
Mike Golic, DE, Philadelphia Eagles, OH state champ
Chad Hennings, DT, Dallas Cowboys IA State Champ
Tim Krumrie, DL, Cincinnati Bengals – WI State Champ
Rodney Leisle former UCLA defensive star – CA state placer
Donnie Edwards, Former UCLA great
Matt Millen, LB, Oakland Raiders
Leo Nomellini, T, San Francisco 49’ers – Big 10 Champ
Also, on offense there are plenty of guys with wrestling experience, including Jonathan Ogden, one of the best Bruins ever.

by rich87 on Nov 4, 2010 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

A better NE wrestler than Bruschi - Stephen Neal

A regular starter in both Guard spots for the NE Patriots since 2004 on a team compiling a 113-39 record with 6 division, 3 conference, and 2 SB championship, was a two-time NCAA Div I championship wrestler who did not play football in college, completed career winning the Dan Hodge Award, known as the Heisman Trophy of wrestling. Also won the U.S. Freestyle Championship, the Pan-American Games title and the World Championships.

by C.T. in Boston on Nov 4, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Warren Sapp??!

What poor kid would step on the mat with him?!

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 5, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

my optimistic take

is that the ‘Filthy’ Five have the physical tools and experience to grind it our against any ‘Nasty’ Beavers they face on Saturday night.

by britishbruin on Nov 4, 2010 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I was wondering if Ayers was hurt -

that explains so much. also speaks to his character that he’s never, as far as I know, mentioned it before now, despite being criticized for his diminished production the past several games.

by mwright84 on Nov 4, 2010 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

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