Sunday Musings On UCLA Football: [Young] Gun(s) Of November?
While the tradmed reporters were crowing about obvious story line around Karl Dorrell, Mike Riley and UCLA, all last week we kept pointing out how the Bruins had a chance to get themselves back in bowl contention with a winnable game against an overhyped Oregon State program. Bruin offense with its under-utilized talent at skill positions, talented QB (who might have broken out earlier if he played for a different OC) had match advantages against a mediocre Beaver defense. While the Bruin defense had a chance to get their acts together against a banged up Beaver offense coming in with an OL which had its own issues re. playing physical brand of football.
All that translated into a result which might have been euphoric but not all the surprising to most of us on BN. Bruins took care of business in a very winnable game. While the defense deserves its due props and optimism around certain elements of offense such as an emerging QB is justified, questions need to continue to be raised around whether our program is playing up to its full potential.
The promise is certainly there. Last night when Richard Brehaut let the team to a TD in the epic twenty play drive, many of us were having visions of number 18. The way he churned out yards with his legs and kept moving the team forward while keeping his poise, displayed remarkable progress he has shown in a matter of weeks, while undercutting the public criticism directed at him from his OC. Sure as a true sophomore QB Brehaut still locks on his targets at times. However, that is not anything dramatically different than what we have seen from Kevin Prince. At this point the upside and potential of Brehaut is pretty clear and it has all of us fired up for his next appearance in a very winnable game.
Meanwhile, on the defensive side the freshmen - Jordan Zumwalt, Dietrich Riley and Cassius Marsh - set the tone with their remarkable play all evening long. Building off his explosive starting debut against Arizona, Zumwalt took it up another notch with team leading 9 tackles which included a huge sack. Then there was Dietrich Riley. You guys have seen the videos now here on BN. As rich pointed out in the post game thread, following that vicious tackle, Jacquizz Rodgers had a total of 9 yards. It was essentially a tone setting play that changed the complexion of the game.
While I was euphoric watching these guys, the question that came running through my mind was that why the heck did it take so long for these guys to get on the field? That is the ultimate basis around all the frustrations surrounding both of Rick Neuheisel coordinators in this program.
Let's start with the offense again. When we started the game day we discussed a Norm Chow comment about how he doesn't worry about a balanced offense any more. He talked about how he is not all that worried about getting a 50/50 breakdown between his running and passing attempts. Well, that is fine. Guess, no one really cares if Chow doesn't get exact balance getting close to 50/50. Yet, I am not sure I feel all that great about our offensive stats where our offense rushed the ball 55 times and had only 19 passing attempts with a QB, who is clearly coming into his own.
Throughout the game Bruins were in numerous 2nd and short (less than 5 yards to go) situations where they essentially kept calling the same TB dive play with Jet Ski. In fact if I have the plays right, we only went QB keeper just once on a 2nd and short situation which resulted in 9 yards rush for Brehaut. Of course we have an OL, which has been pretty decent with running game. However, what I don't understand is Chow's reluctance to mix it up by incorporate the F Back in that situation by getting Barr out in space, or using Brehaut's mobility to roll him out and find other skilled targets.
I don't understand why it is so difficult for Chow to scheme a screen to TB or slant passes on first or second down with the other team bringing the pressure. I don't really buy the argument that Chow is playing probabilities and going with the "sure thing." I think that kind of thinking stagnates the offense. It might have been a good idea for a team with no talent (like the situation we were in during Neuheisel's first season with Kevin Craft, one legged Kahlil Bell and shattered OL). We have enough skill players and speed in our offense for Chow to mix it up.
We have enough talent in our offense that doesn't justify our coaches continuing to clam up on the opponent's side of the field and keep settling for FG attempts. Neuheisel and Chow once again depended a little too much on Forbath and it almost bit them yesterday. For our program to take steps forward beyond last season's encouraging progress, coaches have to find a way to trust their players and open this offense up. No, of course we are not calling for bombs on every play or passes on every second and shot. What we don't want is to see our so offense be so freaking predictable. It is infuriating and it was one of the key factors that ultimately ended Karl Dorrell's tenure at UCLA (which should have never started).
At this point, I sure hope Randall Carroll keeps getting the start over Nelson Rosario. I also think Taylor Embree should be on notice as coaches should find more and more ways to get Josh Smith and Ricky Marvray into the game. BTW, I don't really understand the point of sending Embree in for every PR, considering he has almost cost us dearly for two straight games with costly fumbles and bobbles.
Going back to our running game, it was good to see Jet Ski get to 100. Obviously the fumbling issue continues to be a big concern. It was also encouraging to see Malcolm Jones with a solid game. I hope coaches trust him enough to find a way to get him more carries in the upcoming game. I am excited to see what our offense can do against a Washington Husky defense. We should match up very well against them in Seattle.
As for the defense, yesterday was encouraging. However, it didn't do much at least for yours truly to have faith restored in Chuck Bullough. Sure our tackling was great but our defense looked confuse early on specially when we were in zone D. It is also infuriating to see our D getting off to bad starts right after second half as it happened last night at the Rose Bowl. Thought it was ridiculous to see Riley taken out immediately after he laid that bone crunching hit on the Quizz.
Again, it is maddening to think why it took so long for these coaches to put in Zumwalt and Riley into our lineups. I wonder what our LB corps would look like if coaches started the season featuring Zumwalt, Patrick Larimore and Akeem Ayers, with Sean Westgate coming off the bench. No one can question Westgate's heart. He plays tough. However, I just think coaches have better options and have a responsibility to coach them up getting the best possible mix of talent on the field.
Anyway, despite the frustrating comments above, the coaches and players do deserve enormous credit for the way they have been battling since that humiliating massacre in Eugene. It is crystal clear that Rick Neuheisel has not lost his team. The guys are out there clawing, scratching and battling. I think the reason for frustration is that we strongly believe we have a pretty talented team made up bunch of really good kids, who can produce better results.
We are now 4-5 with a 2-4 conference record. I strongly believe if Norm Chow had let Richard Brehaut start against Kansas State and against Cal, the complexion of this season would have been different. Brehaut was coming into his own during pre-season practices. By third week of pre-season practice the reports on him were getting better and he put together a very strong pre-season scrimmage that had a huge impression on Brett Hundley getting enamored with the pistol offense. Yet Chow decided to go with Prince with just 2 days of practice, resulting in a very anemic offensive outing in Manhattan. Then Chow once again decided to go with Prince against Cal, when it was clear to rest of the offense that Brehaut was the better option.
No one can question Prince's heart. He is a warrior. However, from what I have seen, it is clear to me that Brehaut has better tools and mechanics to lead this program. He is certainly coachable given the clear progression he has shown in recent weeks and he had flashed off the same signs of being a "gamer" evoking the memories of some guy from West Lynn, Oregon. It is also clear that this offense believes in Brehaut. The magic around him when he improvised that pass to Harkey was electric.
There is a vibe around how Brehaut leads this team and it also seemed to carry over to the defense, which came out and played with its hair on fire after Brehaut's second TD drive. Don't forget last night was not the first time Brehaut showed off his clutch leadership. He also engineered a 90+ yard drive against an upstart Washington State team late in second half that changed the complexion of our game against Cougars. Brehaut has "it" and I hope Chow at this point stop badmouthing this kid in public, and put all his energy both in private and in public to get this kid locked in and inspired for rest of this season.
Certainly cannot wait till our next game against Washington. Thanks to our young guys for rallying this team and getting everyone fired up.
GO BRUINS.
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I don't care about 55/19 play breakdown
I do care that most of the 19 were in passing situations. The fact that we were rolling up 4.75 yards per carry should have given us more latitude to deceive the OSU defense and reel off a few longer developing pass plays since they would be looking more to stop the run. But that 4.75 yards per carry also is pretty good justification for running 55 run plays.
Nestor mentioned it in the game thread, play action passes would be nice.
Would allow deeper routes given our OL.
I was actually primarily thinking of play action
Anything else would have a much lower chance of success IMO because it would make the line pass protect for longer than we’ve seen they’re reasonably capable.
I actually don't think his play action passing is all that good
in particular, they showed one replay of a play action pass where he barely even hinted at it being a run before dropping back – perhaps because he knows he might not have that much time.
The slight of hand part isn't great
I’d think we’d be more reliant on them counting on us running and getting themselves out of position, but without a decent fake, for whatever reason, our receivers may not get separation.
I agree with you
though in some ways, our willingness to run in obvious passing situations (e.g. 2nd-and-a-mile) helps keep defenses from always thinking pass on passing downs.
I’d also say – look at our most successful drives. 1st TD drive (8 plays according to ESPN gametracker) did not have a single passing attempt (1 pass play called, Brehaut scrambled for yards when the play broke down). 2nd TD drive (19 plays according to ESPN) had just 2 pass attempts.
by britishbruin on Nov 7, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
+1! You nailed it.
It’s not so much the number, it’s the technique. With our running game doing so well, you have to ask where are the play-action passes? The linebackers have to freeze and open up the slants and the middle or am I nuts? But we hardly ever use play action. What? It can’t be done out of the Pistol?
Element of surprise
is the O’s advantage v D.. You’re spot on with your observation on our passing situations. If the defense knows we’re going to pass, we lose that element of surprise. That’s what we call
“not putting our guys in positions to succeed”. Not only do our guys have to beat the defense but also the coaches which is just ridiculous.
We’re not asking for us to be Texas Tech but you need to strive for balance. Stretch the field vertically and horizontally. Where the hell is the slants, screens, flairs, etc. Those are pass plays that don’t require the OL to sustain their blocks. People use the protection issues as an excuse which I don’t buy. There are plenty of things you can still do with the passing game. And figure out a way to get Barr in space please! The kid is being wasted as a battering ram. If not, send him over to defense.
For all of the issues with Bullough
He at least seems willing to let our young talent play, and they are the reason we won today. Yes, it seems pretty obvious that they should be playing, and probably should have been playing sooner, but at least they are playing. It makes me wonder what our offense would be like if our young guys didn’t get to play only because of injuries.
We're havin' too much fun today. We ain't thinkin' 'bout tomorrow.
Your last sentence
contradicts your first. Yes, the young players got in, and they were for the most part impressive. Bullough wasn’t willing to let them play; he had no choice. I don’t think we’d be seeing near as much of them as we are if the depth chart and injured list still looked like they did in August.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Yes for Zumwalt
Owa, Marsh, Epenesa, Jefferson, Riley, and Graham all moved up the depth chart and got PT without the people ahead of them getting injured (yes Jones and Tepa were injured, but Graham and Owa stilled moved past other players who were higher on the depth chart to start). My point is that the D has been much more willing to let younger players play than the offense has been, and in fact, the young talent on offense has only gotten in when the players in front have been injured.
We're havin' too much fun today. We ain't thinkin' 'bout tomorrow.
they're getting better in practice...
At the beginning of the fall, these guys had not seen any college level play. It makes sense to me they have been good students and have been well coached thus rising to the starting position. No way they could have the execution back at the beginning. They now have the knowledge of the O and D schemes and are able to use the talent the coaches saw in them while being recruited. I don’t believe they were better than the others even weeks ago.
Progress!
Bodes well for the next few games and the future.
what?
Shouldn’t have taken until well past mid season to see Riley, Owa, and Zumwalt get significant PT. Especially with Datone injured and Ayers playing hurt after Texas (makes so much sense, Turf Toe is a killer). We all knew from the preseason that Riley loved to hit, it’s no surprise that in game time situations he, well, loves to hit. Our three freshman standouts on D were stifled by CB who was too worried about the Jessies and Joes, to develop his talent. He needs to be sent packing after this year.
by Strathmore&Gayley on Nov 8, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Still trying to understand the 1 - 8 record in October the last 2 seasons.
The schedule, of course. But there seems to be some other issue in midseason. Hoping this season has an even better outcome than last seasons November.
Could it be injuries?
I bet if we were to go back and look, we would find a rash of injuries to starters and key players. Just an educated guess though.
So...
…would it be favorable for the Bruins to return to a traditional offensive set if Brehaut continues to grow. He seems to be better suited for it with his ability to throw the ball downfield.
RB is definitely a 'gamer'
Although I firmly believe that if that trait had been evident earlier, CNC would have started RB. Problem with ‘gamers’ is that they generally don’t show it until the game.
Given the progress in the last three games, I doubt CNC will hesitate to put all his energy into developing RB now. And as for his comments, CNC just calls ‘em how he sees ’em. RB is progressing well. He is by no means there yet (although given his growth I see him reaching ’there’ at home against SUC).
Here’s to a 4 win streak to close out the season!
Tom Coughlin.... What's Your Deal?
NYGiants up 41-0 on petey’s Seahawks and still throwing for the end zone. Love it.
Can't we just savor the win instead of criticizing coaches week after week, win or lose?
“Depended a little too much on Forbath”? When it’s 4th and long and we’ve got one of the country’s best field goal kickers on our side, who else are we going to depend on? Are you supposing they should have tried a Hail Mary instead of a field goal on the last play?
fwiw
the comments probably refer more generally to the idea that the coaches know Kai is (generally) good from significant range, and so are more likely to play conservatively once they are in field goal range, rather than playing aggressively and taking risks in an attempt to get into the endzone. The point isn’t (on Saturday) what to do in 4th and long, it’s on the plays that lead up to those 4th and long situations. I don’t necessarily agree with the argument, just trying to explain its logic.
LOL @ Lefty
Yeah, the coaches are beyond reproach when we win! I don’t think so. Not when you’re trying to get to the top. That’s why Dorrell was fired.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
a few games ago when starters were laughing during a losing effort....
is when the talented, motivated underclassmen first deserved their shot on the field. Now after injuries, some have made it, but others still deserve to play much more. For example, why are Smith and Barr not more involved on offense (besides Smith on special teams)?
Rosario should be benched...
But does anyone here really believe that the coaching staff will keep Carroll in once NR is healthy? I hate having the strong inclination that this coaching staff is playing favorites and will continue to do so. It’s depressing.
I thought NR got in for at least one play on Saturday.
I could be wrong, but I and those around me thought we saw his number out there in the wr position. This doesn’t mean you’re wrong, he could be being brought back slowly. But, I’m hoping it means the coaches have seen better wr’s and are sticking with them.
Embree needs to be dropped from PRs! 2 weeks in a row we got lucky when he dropped the punts. This time he also had a bad penalty (blocking after calling for a fair catch). If he’s in there because he’s more consistent … well, clearly he’s not.
Go Bruins!
I think I will go out on a limb and guarantee us a win next week against UW.
It worked yesterday
Go Bruins!!!!! We are going to win today, guaranteed.
by LongtimeBru on Nov 6, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that picture of Brehaut doing the shovel pass. That was a crucial play at the time on third down and he showed his moxiea and growing confidence. Harkey also did a nice job of finishing it off and getting the first down.
At least we found a pass Harkey wasn't able to drop
Kudos to all the freshman . . . and they are already double-teaming Owa – his emergence is just a matter of time. Love seeing the new kids improving every week on a team that is now clearly dominated at the skill positions by freshman and sophs.
should have been
helmet to helmet. Zumwalt was called for one earlier which was not as bad as RB’s hit.

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