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Random Thoughts from the Oregon State Game


The last couple of weeks have reminded me of one of my favorite fishing mantras "Any day on the water beats a day off of it". How does that fit here? "Any day in the Rose Bowl beats a day out of it".

Having seen the last two games in person, here are some of my random thoughts:

1. All season long, my basic thesis about this team has been that it is both young and inexperienced. We are now 9 games into our schedule and we are still young -- but now have had 10 weeks of practice and 9 games to gain experience -- and it shows.

a. Richard Brehaut is learning quickly. He was far better in the pistol this week than he was last week; he was far less wooden and his "deception" was far better. He also made better decisions as to when to run and when to not. He still throws into very tight coverage, but he seemed to running his checks better than last week and often found the more open receiver.

b. Much has been made of the play of our younger guys -- they were great. We started a lot of underclassmen. In fact, I don't think we started a senior on D and had maybe one junior. And, there is no doubt that our freshmen made a major impact, on both sides of the ball, yesterday.

c. However, I don't see this as grounds for criticism of our coaches. I can't buy into the "They should have played them earlier" rhetoric. 

It is equally plausible that they played so well because the coaches had done a great job, these past 10 weeks, of getting them ready to play AND did not play them until they were sufficiently prepared to avoid demoralizing mistakes. 

I think the fact that we played well and young speaks in favor of  the staff.

There are some very concrete examples of how this 3/4 season experience has changed players.

Randall Carroll is a much improved receiver. He is multi-dimensional -- not just a long threat; and he is catching the ball.

Malcolm Jones is a different runner than the one who could not hold on to the ball and, after fumbling, left the field head down. He was strong and confident, yesterday.

We can rave about Zumwalt, and I did all game -- but we have to remember that he was playing behind and learning from Patrick Larimore before Larimore's injury.

I guess my point is that the guys who looked great, yesterday, were not necessarily ready to start or play a lot of minutes earlier in the season.

There is no way to debate this point -- we have no data upon which to base our arguments.

But, I choose to trust that the coaches were putting the players they though would do best into the situations in which they thought they would do best. They know these guys better than we do. They have just as strong a desire to win as we do. And, they want them to succeed as much as we do.

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2. SPTR's -- will this never end? Unless I really missed something, the unnecessary roughness penalty, that pretty much gave Oregon State a touchdown, was called on a very clean -- arm wrap -- tackle. There was no spearing involved. At least that's how it looked from the stands AND on the replay screen.

And, twice, on our last drive, the clock was not stopped at the right time. And, it was obvious from the stands. 

But, for CRN's absolute vigilance -- the game would have gone into overtime. BTW -- he told an interesting story on the radio -- how there should have been 7 seconds on the clock instead of the 3 that was ultimately changed to 4; in order to call time out, CRN had to be physically in front of the official; he had said to the official, before the play, that he wanted a time out -- and the official told him that he had to be directly in front of him before it would be called; so after the end of the play he ran to the guy -- but the guy did not make eye contact with him for a few seconds -- thus, 4 left and not 7.

Why was this important? Because, according to CRN, they have practiced that pass to the sideline and perfected doing it in 3 seconds. He knew he needed 4 seconds on the clock to have time for the kick. And, then a young Carroll almost blew it by faking before going out of bounds. (Reminded me of losing a Rose Bowl game as our QB let the clock run out as he made a futile attempt to run through a bunch of Wisconsin tacklers instead of just going down or throwing the ball away.

One other point on the challenge: During the interview, CRN said that the first words out of his mouth were "Which time out will I lose if the challenge is wrong? The one I have now, or the one in overtime." Smart question -- had it been the "overtime" time out, he said he would not have challenged the ruling.

I love a smart HC.

3. The Crowd Rocked It -- Again -- we were loud most of the game. Some of us stood up most of the game and "every man, woman and child" was standing on critical defensive 3rd downs. (Didn't help much in the first half -- what is it about 3rd and longs?)

4. CRN After the Game -- came over and thanked us BUT he was not proclaiming that things were all where they should be. Quite to the contrary -- his main theme was that we have lots of things to fix and we will get there. I really like his candor. None of that "turning corners" or "work in progress" crap. He is working hard to make this a better team and I, for one, think he is succeeding.

I really like where we will be when these kids, supplemented by more solid recruits, are juniors. 

5. My Special Day in the Stands 

Yes, any day in the Rose Bowl is a great day. But, mine, yesterday, was a bit "more special". I got to sit with, and I got to know Marcedes Lewis -- and it reinforced all of the good things about going to a school with both standards and integrity.

I've been sitting in the same section for about 20 years -- surrounded by the same people who have become my extended Bruin family. So, a newcomer sat down beside me and several of his friends behind me, I told him I was glad he was wearing blue. He turned to me and said he was with one of his friends, who was Captain for the Day -- Marcedes Lewis, and introduced me to Marcedes family which was sitting behind me.

The guy was great. He said, "I'm going to do what you do" so he did 8 claps, made noise, and stood on 3rd downs.

About midway through the first quarter, there was a stir in my row -- I turned to see Marcedes moving down the aisle behind me -- shaking hands, signing autographs and chatting with the people who said hello.

He then sat down, behind me. During the game, he chatted with his family, friends, and all of us sitting around him -- just a regular fan -- but knowledgeable.

He is an incredible guy -- as far from pretentious or arrogant as one could be. Great sense of humor. And, very good to his siblings and Mom who were in the row. 

At one point, I did something I never do -- I asked if I could take a picture with him. I don't do that because I think all "stars" are entitled to moments of normalcy -- but I really wanted it for BN. He laughed and said "Of course" and I gave my iPhone to his friend and, voila, I now have a keepsake.

At the end of the game, I turned to Marcedes' Mom and told her "You should really be proud of him, not for how well he plays, but for who he is. He really is special and I am so glad he represents my alma mater".  She is obviously aware of what great kids she has -- her other son and daughter were really nice, too. All of them are Long Beach Poly kids. So is the wife of one of my pledge brothers who was sitting 4 seats down in the row. When she told them she was class of '62, they laughed. We really are a Geezer section.

Anyway, as one of my seat mates said "I now have a new favorite pro player" -- and I do, too. I love all of my Bruins -- but, Marcedes is really special and he made a great day even better.

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BTW -- I'm the old guy on the right.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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Marcedes and MJD

I got a chance to see both of them before the game, and they are both incredibly friendly, and as far from pretentious as you can imagine. Both of them, along with ATV, are perfect Bruin Ambassadors to the NFL.

We're havin' too much fun today. We ain't thinkin' 'bout tomorrow.

by Steve Bruin on Nov 7, 2010 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

Zumwalt

Actually the coaches kept him behind Sloan. He wouldn’t have gotten as much action last two days if Sloan hadn’t gotten injured. He would have been another talent bottled up by Chuck Bullough.

Randall Carroll is getting better because he is getting playing time. He is getting playing time because coaches cannot waste it on Nelson Rosario who kept getting time despite not giving his best effort on the field.

You can trust the coaches. I certainly don’t trust the coordinators any more. The only person IMO is safe is Bob Palcic who hasn’t made excuses out of injury and inexperience. Wayne Moses has also done a decent job but that is about it.

Neuheisel is doing an OK job but the way he has been settling for FGs is nothing short of Dorrellian. It needs to stop.

by Nestor on Nov 7, 2010 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

Zumwalt is emerging because of injury to Sloan

Not to Larimore.

Actually the coaches kept him behind Sloan. He wouldn’t have gotten as much action last two games if Sloan hadn’t gotten injured. He would have been another talent bottled up by Chuck Bullough. He was making solid impression at Spaulding but never got the time on Sat until injuries forced Bullough’s hand. If he had any kind of creative mind, he’d find a way to incorporate him into our defense, while minimizing Westgate’s time on the field.

Randall Carroll is getting better because he is getting playing time. He is getting playing time because coaches cannot waste it on Nelson Rosario who kept getting time despite not giving his best effort on the field.

You can trust the coaches. I certainly don’t trust the coordinators any more. The only person IMO is safe is Bob Palcic who hasn’t made excuses out of injury and inexperience. Wayne Moses has also done a decent job but that is about it.

Neuheisel is doing an OK job but the way he has been settling for FGs is nothing short of Dorrellian. It needs to stop.

by Nestor on Nov 7, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Wayne Moses

His subbing patterns are almost as conservative as our receivers. One fumble, and Franklin was benched the rest of the half, stalling our O a great deal. Malcom Jones has been way too tentative after his fumbles earlier this year (showed some sign of shaking it off, but still…you can’t improve through fear), and underused early in the year. Our first two years featured the pathetic reliance on Kahlil Bell and Chane Moline over more talented young guys. The overusage of Derrick Coleman (at Franklin and Jones’ expense) continues the trend.

To me, Moses is no exception to the conservative disease.

by bluebland on Nov 8, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see

Where you’re getting the idea that Coleman is overused. He’s been an excellent power counterpart to Franklin, and has played very well despite a few mistakes. I’m about as big of a Malcolm Jones fan as there can be, but we have two excellent running backs right now that block better than he does. How do you justify playing him over Coleman?

by OswegoBruin on Nov 9, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I am somewhere in the middle on this

Coleman has been really good this year but I would love to see added carries for Jones.

by Nestor on Nov 9, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Trust me

I was absolutely in the anti-Coleman boat, but his play this year has completely impressed me. He runs hard, always through tackles (except for that one at Cal… or was that Franklin that was upended?) and makes excellent cuts. Jones to me just looks so natural running the ball it’s hard to justify not playing him. However, Franlkin is getting good carries simply because he’s finally getting some momentum. Carries need to come in bulk to our best runner, and I believe the spread is good. I especially liked it when Franklin fumbled, the ENTIRE offense gave him a smack to his helmet. IT’s a team effort!

by OswegoBruin on Nov 9, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That Franklin fumble

I watched the replay several times. Jetski just froze. He got up to the defender and instead of making a move, he just froze and the defender was able to put his helmet right on the ball, which is usually the cause of 3/4 of the fumbles.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 9, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

SPTR

What is with these idiots? Why do they let their egos get in the way of calling a game right? they were almost responsible for UCLA’s second TD to be stalled by not calling the helmet-to-helmet hit on Brehaut and then a holding call on the next play because the player blocking “looked” like he was guilty of a hold. And then that was followed by the fortunate out-of-bounds hit call that looked worse than it really was.

by UCLA4Life on Nov 7, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

jealous of you meeting Marcedes

and glad to hear he represents us as well as we would hope.

I agree with you about the young players – mostly that it is difficult to debate whether those guys would have been impressive earlier in the season, or whether they have now been coached up to perform well but would have struggled earlier in the season. I think this is particularly true of the freshmen. I don’t advocate blind faith in the coaches – and I think it might have been good to get some of those guys some more gametime experience in the Oregon blowout – but I do think we as a community have a tendency at this point to credit players with impressive performances and blame coaches for poor performances, when both should share in both. Insofar as some of the young guys made plays, some of that is good coaching, and some of it is good playcalling, in addition to the performance of the player themselves. Props to Clark Lea for getting Zumwalt ready to play such a major role (etc).

by britishbruin on Nov 7, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification

in the last line!

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Nov 7, 2010 6:53 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Youth defensively

IIRC we start 1 senior (Carter) occasionally, along with Ayers, Rahim, Dye and Westgate as juniors. The thing is though, outside of Ayers and Rahim, the other three have been seriously challenged by freshmen (Marsh, Hilliard, Riley, etc) and Westgate could (and arguably should) lose his spot to Zumwalt – if not when Larimore is back, at least next year.

by bucknellbruin on Nov 7, 2010 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

two things:

you make a really good point about the clock mismanagement. I never caught that by watching on TV after work.

I am incredibly jealous you got to meet Marcedes Lewis!

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Nov 8, 2010 8:23 AM PST reply actions  

Road Not Traveled

Second Guessing is an artform. Unless the younger guys were actually played earlier, we can’t know whether they would have been used too soon, or would have progressed more. With Carroll, his speed is useful to stretch the defense, even if he couldn’t catch earlier. However, as our OL doesn’t give much time, the long throw isn’t available much. Overall, we just don’t have enough mature talent yet, which accounted for our inability to compete with Stanford and Oregon. We just weren’t ready to beat KState, and not consistent enough to be Arizona. One more good play and we beat Arizona, one more bad play and we lose to Oregon State.

by 75NatChamps on Nov 9, 2010 4:31 AM PST reply actions  

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