Bruin Legend Dummit Shares Our Pain
You know things are bad when a former record holding QB, a UCLA Athletics Hall Of Famer, and a loyal Bruin fan can no longer bear to watch his alma mater in its biggest game of the year.
"So I decided to do something on the night of the UCLA-USC game that I never had done before, and that was to go to a movie with my wife.
"I just didn't want to sit at home and watch UCLA lose another game to USC."
Upon further review, seeing the latest remake of Pride and Prejudice or the latest Twilight movie or some other tortuous chick flick with my wife that night absolutely would have been much less painful than watching that game. Maybe Dennis Dummit was on to something there.
It wouldn't be the first time.
Dennis Dummit was a standout QB for the UCLA in 1969 and '70. At the end of his senior year, he held 14 different records, including most completions, yardage, and touchdowns. And this was coming after the career of one Gary Beban. Just ask Fox 71 about the kid. He could play. He knew his football.
In fact, he still does. In a recent post by columnist Doug Krikorian in the presstelegram.com, Dummit breaks down UCLA's offensive woes, gives his thoughts on CRN, and identifies the biggest barrier to UCLA success on the gridiron. And his thoughts sound like he is channelling BN.
Or maybe it's vice versa. Whichever, we have a lot in common. More after the jump...
In the article, Dummit notes much of UCLA's offensive woes begin with our two biggest concerns: QB play and the offensive line.
"Look, it's obvious there have been some issues at quarterback for UCLA this season. But it's not like these guys aren't trying. They're trying to do the best they can.
"A lot goes into playing the quarterback position. You have to get blocking from your offensive line, and the Bruins have been erratic in this area. And your receivers have to get open. I've noticed it's been a little problem for UCLA receivers getting separation from defensive backs."
Sounds familiar. A patchwork offensive line, inconsistent QB play, and a poorly coached WR unit that didn't perform up to its capabilities. We might have discussed that around here a couple times.
It is no coincidence that Stanford and Oregon, with two of the best offensive lines and two of the best QB's in the nation, are where they are. A great OL can make an average QB efficient, and make a good QB deadly. How many backup QB's had career days against us because we couldn'tt generate a pash rush? Our own OL woes certainly contributed to our QB struggles this year. Hopefully, the return of some players and the year's worth of experience for others will help in the coming season, though depth remains an issue. We have faith in Coach Bob Palcic's ability to get the most out of his group, but he needs good material to work with. Thus, OL recruiting needs to be a centerpiece of recruiting efforts in the future.
Speaking of recruiting, Dummit however is a fan of Rick Neuheisel's efforts there.
"I think Rick Neuheisel is the best recruiter UCLA ever has had," he says. "I'm not down on Rick. I get a kick out of people who have criticized Rick for his yelling at his quarterbacks on occasion. Heck, I never played for a coach who didn't yell at me.
"Sometimes we deserve it. I think Rick's doing the best he can under the conditions."
Dummit's thoughts again are right in line with our feelings here on BN, and help justify why CRN gets one more year to prove that he is qualified to lead this program. He has recruited well, and it is time to make that talent live up to its potential. It's time for him to ditch the ultra-conservative philosophy and start playing to win. We also expect that certain coaching changes (ahem, Moore, possibly Chow, absolutely Bullough) are needed to fully develop that talent into a winning product.
And speaking of coaching changes, the most concerning quote from Dummit points out that the UCLA administration may not care about these issues the way we do.
"I really believe the problem with UCLA football can be traced to the UCLA culture," he says. "The president wants the school to be known for its academics, not its football team." ... Dummit says UCLA simply isn't willing to send the money needed to lure quality assistants to Westwood. ... "I definitely think Rick could use an assistant upgrade," he says.
While there is no reason that success in both academics and football must be mutually exclusive (see Michigan, Notre Dame, Stanford now, and, well, UCLA in the past), this issue of administrative apathy towards football, as well as athletics in general. is becoming a recurring theme. The excellent post last week from JeremyD hit on this, and the huge number of comments following that post backed him up. So while we may gnash our teeth over Bullough's D, or whether Norm has lost his touch, or if CRN is too conservative, there appears to be an even bigger issue out there which might limit our football team's potential, no matter who is running the ship.
In the end, we are all Bruin fans and want to see our program be successful, and do it in the right way. It is not an impossible task. Some of the pieces are in place. Many of the continued problems have been identified. What remains to be seen is whether those problems get fixed. Will the team play up to its potential? Will Coach Neuheisel will make the necessary moves in his staff and start playing to win? Will the program will get the appropriate support from AD Guerrero, the UCLA administration, and all of us as fans?
Only time will tell. In the meantime, the angst and frustration over what is and what could be continues.
Take it from the Bruin legend:
"I have a good life...I have no complaints, except of course, when I watch UCLA football games. The Bruins keep me agonized."
You and me both, Mr. Dummit. Pass the popcorn. We're all right there with you.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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great post
I think we all can relate to his experience with regards to going to a movie with his wife over watching ucla lose again. For the first time in my life this year I willingly chose to be on a date on a Saturday when a ucla game was being played. I mean that says all you need to know. It’s been so painful and one disappointment after another that a little piece of my Bruin soul has died or at least been beaten into remission. Nine more months to see if our ships are all sailing in the same direction. Until then, those changes need to be made as the man said. Great insight, nice find.
by westwood12003 on Dec 16, 2010 2:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Good stuff
We need more high profile alums to speak out and put some pressure on the AD and administration to change the culture. UCLA has all the ingredients to become a competitive program on a yearly basis, but unless the culture changes, I don’t see this happening anytime in the near future.
I remember Dennis Dummit
Just wanted to say that Dennis Dummit was the quarterback my last two years at UCLA, and he was an outstanding quarterback. We played Texas in Austin then too, and he threw for over 370 yards in that game which at that time was a UCLA record. We had Texas beat until Texas’s quarterback threw up a prayer with about 30 seconds left in the game which was somehow caught for a touchdown to be us in a last second come from behind win. The difference between then and now was that Texas did not finish the year at 5-7 but went undefeated to win the national championship. Because of Dennis Dummit’s heroics we came that close to beating the legitimate #1 team in the nation on the road.
One thing I think this shows is the critical importance of the quarterback. During my undergraduate years at UCLA we had outstanding teams except for one year. All the other years the quarterback was either Heisman winner Gary Beban or Dennis Dummit. The one bad year we went I think 3-8 and had no quality at quarterback. I think the quarterback was Bill Bolden who was a running quarterback who just didn’t pass that well.
I think that the quarterback and offensive line problems are about 85% of the problems with our team now. The quarterback position has really seen a lot of misfortune with Ben Olsen and Patrick Cowan lost to injury and then Kevin Prince almost constantly being injured. We’ve been playing second and third string quarterbacks with little experience and with an offensive line that doesn’t pass protect well. That’s a recipe for disaster. I sure hope it gets straightened out.
when Dennis Dummit was our qb, we yell leaders had a cheer for him...
“DAMMIT DUMMIT, DO IT!”…we honestly lead the student section in this cheer many times during his 2 years at UCLA…:)…Dummit had a great senior year in 1969…that team went 8-1-1, and finished in second place to u$c…
BruinClass
I remember that yell! It was fun screaming that out. I was just going to post that but you beat me to the punch! Dammit, Dummit, DO IT!
by Forever a Bruin on Dec 16, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
I do too.
I ALSO was going to post the same thing, but coming from a former yell leader is much better. Funny how those little things stick in mind 40 years later.
I also remember that cheer
I had forgotten about that, but now I remember too. What a cool cheer!
I’m not positive, but I think Dummit came out of Long Beach City College.
He was definitely one of UCLA’s all time best quarterbacks.
Talking about administration apathy towards varsity sports
Ask me. I believe I do know
Between NCAA sports and the faculty’s academic research, be it science, technology & medicine, you will be lucky if those vice chancellors, provosts, regents or trustees won’t lie to you and say their hearts really belong to the latter categories.
Federal research grants, endowed department chairs and prestigious international awards recognizing faculty research achievements etc, in their eyes, worth many times more in values long lasting to the university itself and the respective filed of studies that benefits society than NCAA championships.
I understand the mindset, agree and disagree to such thinking however.
Simply put, competitiveness in varsity sports goes hand in hand with academic rigors. You don’t have to choose one over the other, never had to since they equally benefit the institutions and untold many young minds they are training.
Duke, North Carolina’s academic standings never suffer with their predominance in hoops’ perennial dominance. Why can’t UCLA be like them, or even better ?
UCLA should succeed at both academics and athletics
Great insight, Htse. Your point is key:
You don’t have to choose one over the other, never had to since they equally benefit the institutionsThis should become a major focus around BN in the near future. As we put pressure on our coaches to reach higher levels of success, we need to make sure the University is giving those coaches the adequate tools and resources to achieve those levels.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
UNC and Texas are public schools that place great emphasis on their programs.
There is no reason UCLA cannot do the same, especially when Cal has shown the werewithal to do the same.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
I do indeed remember Dummit
I don’t remember who he followed – maybe Billy Bolden? But the difference was remarkable. We had not had a quarterback who could really consistently pass since The Great One. He was really something else. He got to school the same time I returned from my sabbatical with the U.S. Army.
Current students – You have just had a little flavor of people talking about their good old days. These are your good old days. Are you content? Now is the time to make your voices heard if you’re not. Push for an on-campus stadium. Stranger things have happened when people got together and got mobilized and motivated. Don’t let your good old days stop with highschool, and start over again … well, the first few years out in real life are rarely anyone’s good old days. So there you are. Get moving.
Billy Bolden, Dennis Dummit, and Joe Paterno
Bolden was a bust, and I’m not sure he even made it through the whole year as a starter. But when you say we hadn’t had a quarterback who could really consistently pass since The Great One that was only one year that had gone by. Beban’s last season was 1967-1968. Dummit’s first season was 1969-1970. Only the 1968-1969 season was between the two of them.
I remember being at the coliseum and seeing UCLA get soundly beaten by a really good team in that down year of 1968. That team that beat them wound up with a # 2 national ranking at the end of the season. It was Penn St. who had a coach named Joe Paterno!
Miracle win against SUC my senior year....
Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac… It’s in the hole! It’s in the hole! It’s in the hole!
Norm had played only 7 minutes his whole career. He is a Bruin God in my mind!
I am happy to hear how well Dummitt is doing.
In fact, it looks like we work very close to one another. I was not an athlete and I never met him but I remember him and those teams well, very hard luck they were. IIRC correctly not only did we nearly beat Texas in its prime, but Dennis was nearly killed by SUC’s infamous defensive line, “The Wild Bunch,” one year but played heroically and should have won but for the typical BS refs.
I think he was a JC transfer out of Long Beach, but he had no problem picking up the offense. Maybe we can get lucky like that again!
Correct on the transfer.
He transferred to UCLA from Long Beach City College, and he is also a member of their Athletics Hall of Champions.
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I remember his girlfriend
IIRC, he dated Lynette Spangler, who was Barbi Benton’s roommate. BB was Hugh Hefner’s girlfriend and I was friends with Lynette’s and Barbi’s suite mates at Weyburn Hall, now Westwood Horizons, an old folk’s home. Let’s not go there. Lynette transferred to University of Nevada. Barbi went on to a lacklustre career, but I wish her well. Mexi, I could use some of your humor here.
by TriedandTrueBruin on Dec 16, 2010 7:56 PM PST reply actions
I don't know what you're talking about!
hee hee hee
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
can someone please explain.
I don’t see how supporting our athletic department, by channeling more money and possibly lowering academic standards to gifted athletes, will hurt ucla in its academics. If anything, I think it would help. From my understanding, SUCs admissions have become more competitive as of late largely due to SUCs success on the football field. Competitive admissions should yield better students and thus improve the universities academics. It’s not like athletes are expected to become researchers. The drop-off from having an inferior student athlete (from an academic standpoint) will be compensated by the increased applicant pool of non-athlete students when the school becomes more attractive from it’s football success.
It obviously has to be more complicated than just that. Perhaps the school loses some control when it attempts to have sports success. Can someone shed some light?
Fantastic Post!!
Good job GBruin!!!
You have to respect Dennis Dummit’s view on this and I think he nails it on the head. I loved this guy even as a squirt 9-year old kid watching UCLA on TV back home in Iowa. It’s a damn shame he never got to show off his talents in the Rose Bowl game.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Dec 17, 2010 4:32 AM PST reply actions
I disagree
The premise here seems to be: a fan (admittedly famous and heroic) chooses not to watch the UCLA team, and this is an indictment of the team.
Any time a true fan chooses not to watch his team, this seems an indictment of the fan. I am totally in favour of that fan working the back channels to express displeasure to the administration, or offer advice and solutions, but I am totally against this public sniping by former players or coaches (see also ATV – love him as a Bruin, but think his twitter criticism is unwise and sounds like a guy with an axe to grind). They are supposed to be a family, and should deal with things in-house. And even public criticism of the product they see on the field is preferable to ’I’m not even going to watch’, at least in my mind.
The team’s play and overall embarrassing level of performance is its own indictment. If a fan is able to skip the most important game of the year without a pressing and immutable other commitment, then they are doing something I cannot do. As a great poet once wrote:
The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care…. right?… Yeah-eah-eah!
I disagree!
The reason this fan’s actions are more relevant is that he’s an ex-UCLA football player, so presumably a guy who’s been through all the ups and downs of good and bad sports teams and knows the sport. If even he can’t bear to watch, it is a major indictment.
Finally…I think you gotta keep that poet separated.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
:-)
definitely don’t disagree that Dummit was pretty fly for a UCLA QB when he used to come out and play, and so I respect his opinion – just that “I’m not watching any more” shows an ability to tear yourself away from the thing that is causing the pain, which is a level of detachment I don’t understand.
by britishbruin on Dec 17, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions

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