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Boom! Neuheisel Fires Bullough and Moore

As alluded to over the last day or two (HT to SuperBruinMan), Rick Neuheisel has given Chucky "Base D" Bullough and Reggie "Stone Hands" Moore the axe, moving the football program's coaching staff in the right direction.  This morning it was made official, per Ramona Shelburne and Peter Yoon at WWL:

UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel fired defensive coordinator Chuck Bullough and wide receivers coach Reggie Moore on Saturday and said more changes to the coaching staff could be coming.

There's no hiding who Neuheisel is referring to in making additional changes.  Rick cut straight to the chase on Chow:

"The offense is still a place I'm evaluating and Norm as the coordinator is certainly in that category," Neuheisel said. "But I'm just trying to figure out what is the best way to go, whether it's a reshuffling or if it's new personnel. I'm still sorting that out in my own mind."

While the Bullough and Moore firings will be met with great fanfare by UCLA fans frustrated with a soft defense that didn't utilize the talent on the roster and an inconsistent receiving corps that had trouble holding on to the ball in key situations, ran poor routes, and stuck with older guys (Nelson Rosario and Taylor Embree) who were choking in lieu of younger guys (Josh Smith and Randall Carroll) who were making plays, the possibility of Chow being let go has been a contested topic of conversation at BN.

More on the firings after the jump.

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After a very disappointing 4-8 season, Neuheisel apparently is taking change true to heart, evaluating the entire staff:

"I'm not entirely done evaluating," Neuheisel said. "There are certainly some other things that I want to continue to consider, but I'm sure about these particular moves and I informed them this morning."

Rick is rolling the dice.  He needs to find a staff that will combine to bring the Bruins at least 8 or 9 wins, including a victory over Lame's sanctions-plagued U$C Trogans.  The big chair is hot and Rick knows he is running out of time to produce a winning product before the fan-base forces a regime change.  Letting Bullough, a Walker hold-over, and Moore, a coach who has flat out failed, go is a step in the right direction.

It even sounds like Rick has been channeling the collective frustration of BruinsNation:

"I just felt like we needed to have a couple of schemes that would help make us more consistent," Neuheisel said. "He's a 4-3 guy and believes in the 4-3. At the end of the day we were not consistent enough at stopping the run and I felt like some of the athletes that we have in our program might fit better in some alternate schemes.

"Chuck was, in my opinion, not the guy who was going to be the expert in that department."

Now, I don't think it really matters if we run a 4-3, a 3-4, or some alternative defensive formation (since there are programs that run each one successfully), but what we need is a defensive coordinator who can evaluate talent, scheme to maximize that talent, and be flexible enough to change schemes to match the kind of offense we're facing (one of the biggest failings of the Walker/Bullough scheme was the inability to scheme against a spread option offense).

Although Bullough has been sacked, Neuheisel is retaining the rest of the defensive staff, per WWL:

Neuheisel added that Bullough would be the only defensive coach changed, meaning linebackers coach Clark Lea, defensive line coach Todd Howard and secondary coach Tim Hundley will return next season.

Now, there has been chatter of the possibility of Dewayne Walker returning to Westwood.  Or, in other words, we'd swap the failed pupil (Bullough) for the failed architect of the failed defensive scheme (Walker).  Has everyone here forgotten all the angst in these threads and posts watching Walker lose game after game?  Do I need to say anything more than Brady Quinn and Notre Dame to remind you of how his defenses would collapse in the clutch with soft zone defense?!

Walker would be a desperate choke job if Neuheisel brings him back.  Walker is the kind of coach that is always looking for his next pay check and to parlay "rumors" into more money for himself.  This is the same guy who had his friends floating rumors about other jobs offers, trying to make him sound more in-demand than he really was.  Does no one remember self-created rumors about Walker going to LSU or Washington?  The claims and rumors he was a top candidate for the HC job at Iowa State?  Look at the guy's track record.  He's a nomad, moving from job to job, using rumors to manipulate employers into paying up for a coach who has a record of mediocre, soft defenses that get annihilated by the spread offense.

Of course Walker wants to come back to Westwood, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's actively pushing this storyline.  This is a guy that wants Rick's job.  He wants it bad and he probably thinks that if he can maneuver his way back to UCLA that if Rick gets the axe, he can convince Guerrero to give him the job he thought he deserved (but was completely unqualified for) when Dorrell got canned.

Oh, I'm sure of the Walker-lovers out there are ecstatic.  When Walker was in charge of our defense, we weren't exactly getting it done on the field, with records of 7-6, 6-7, and 4-8.  He's the guy who went to New Mexico State, claimed he would get the program on track and competitive within five years, and after one season of ass-beating after ass-beating, was already trying to engineer a way out of town.  I'm sure there are folks pushing the "fire Rick and hire Walker as HC" angle.  Those people are idiots.  Plain and simple.  It's not up for debate.

Walker's defenses were mediocre.  People give him way too much love for 13-9.  One win does not make a career folks.  The guy is 5-20 as a head coach.  Oh, please, let's sign that guy up!  Give me a break.  If Neuheisel ends up bringing Walker back, it will just be more evidence that UCLA football and Morgan Center are completely clueless, without any imagination, and without any commitment to winning.

Couldn't say it better myself.  Other names floating out there include former Miami head coach and defensive coordinator Randy Shannon (who had impressive defensive stats as the Miami DC) and SDSU defensive coordinator Rocky Long.

On the receivers coach front, with Reggie Moore out the door, UCLA can go after someone who will actually develop the talent we have at the position, rather than let it stagnate.  One interesting name to keep tabs on is Texas' Bobby Kennedy.  I know what you're thinking: "why would a guy leave Mack Brown and Texas for UCLA?!"

First, he's pretty well qualified, developing some quality receivers at Texas (from his official Texas bio):

Kennedy laid the foundation for the 2005 corp with his work a year earlier. The Longhorns had lost three wide receivers to the NFL after the 2003 season and were left without much experience in the 2004 group. Fifth-year senior Tony Jeffery emerged and established career highs in receptions (33), yards (437) and TDs (three). Also, Sweed tied for third on UT's all-time receptions by a freshman list with 23.

Now, why would Kennedy come to UCLA? Take a note of this:

Prior to joining the Texas staff, Kennedy spent two years coaching wide receivers at Washington. Under his guidance, Huskies All-America receiver Reggie Williams ranked fourth nationally in receptions per game (7.4) and 16th in receiving yardage (92.4 ypg) in 2003. Williams finished his career as Washington's all-time leader in receptions (238) and receiving yards (3,536). Williams was selected by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round (ninth pick) of the 2004 NFL Draft.

In Kennedy's first season with the Huskies, he tutored Williams in a year that the sophomore wideout earned first-team All-America honors. Williams set UW's single-season records for receptions (94) and receiving yards (1,454) that year.


I'll give you one guess at who was running the Washington program at the time.  If Rick is on top of it, he'll reach out to his old receivers coach and try to reel in a big hire who could take the talent on the roster (which we have a lot of at wide receiver and tight end) and develop it into the kind of elite receiving corps we thought we'd have before this season started.

Just some notes in the post-Bullough and Moore era.  Fire away with your thoughts and consider this your coaching changes open thread.

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The Team's Performance Was Substandard

So standing pat made no sense. But now we are essentially starting from scratch on the defensive side, and our young players will have to learn a completely new scheme. With only a year left on his contract, CRN may be starting from scratch. The program is in dissarray. Why would a recruit pick the Bruins in this state? As much as many on BN will enjoy the thrill of having their wish of getting CB’s head, it will be a long offseason with who knows what next year. We can only hope that the young talent will begin to mature, and the team will improve next year based on a larger percentage of better players. Its a good thing we beat BYU yesterday.

by 75NatChamps on Dec 19, 2010 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

We would be starting from scratch either way

Bullough was a joke. By your logic, because our guys will have to “learn a completely new scheme” we should keep a chump like Bullough around and watch our defense get destroyed for another year.

Letting the “young talent mature” isn’t a remedy for Bullough’s fundamentally flawed defensive scheme. He had to go.

by Bellerophon on Dec 19, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Learning new schemes is over rated in my book.

At the end of the day, we are still talking about tackling, attacking the ball, denying your opponent. Schemes may change, but it’s not like we are asking football players to become distance runners. They will adapt. The better the coach, the quicker they will adapt.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Dec 19, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe so, but then again...

so cal has a pretty good D coach with a pretty successful scheme and it failed miserably as results were ranked beyond the 100’s in several categories.

Hopefully, we can get someone who will not have to change things around too much, but may call better coverages/plays in the various game situations.

by kevb75 on Dec 19, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Monte's Tampa 2

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Monte bring in a system that doesn’t work nearly as well on the collegiate level as it does in the pros (sort of like KD’s West Coast Offense)? I believe the Tampa 2 is specifically susceptible to the spread attack.

by LVBruin on Dec 19, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Monte runs pretty close to what Pete Carroll ran (or Petey ran what Monte ran – Carroll learned under Monte at nc state, buffalo, minnesota, ny jets, and inherited his defense). I think the whole “tampa 2” thing has been overblown; if you watch video of the bucs back in the day, they ran a lot of cover 3/cover 1, mainly 2-deep on obvious passing downs. Anyway, his defense looked alright 2 seasons ago in Tennessee where they faced several “spread”-type attacks and they held oregon in check for a quarter or two this season, if you understand how your defense works (and having run it for decades, im sure he does) then you can adapt to any type of offense. There’s no such thing as a sound scheme that’s “bad” against a specific type of offense, as long as you have 11 guys and they have 11 guys then you are good.

Anyway the 4 fundamentals of defense are block shedding, tackling, pursuit, and coverage, and we have been bad at all 4 keys for awhile now. As long as we are bad at those 4 things, no scheme we run is going to be able to defend any type of offense…until we can bring about that culture change and defensive mentality then no scheme is going to work, and that’s something that has to come down straight from the top. However gets the job has to be someone that Rick has a good relationship with and has his full support.

by jtthirtyfour on Dec 19, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Well if the assistants are staying...

Maybe they can help us land a big name coordinator. Howard played with and for Phil Bennett at Texas A&M back in the day. It would be great DG could channel some of the same powers he used for CBH and get Bennett out of Pitt. Hes being looked at for the Miami opening, but shoot why cant we land him?

And I dont know what rumor is worse, Walker as DC again or Dorrell being looked at as head coach for the Denver Broncos…

by beeru on Dec 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

Hadn't heard the one about Dorrell and the Broncos

It’s hard to get worse, but that might be a way.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Dec 19, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The funny thing is

When he was here, one of the more common criticisms of him was that he ran his program like it was the NFL. His personality and philosophy did seem tailored to the pro game way more than the college game. His stoic demeanor would fit right in as well as his risk averse style. None of this means that he’d be a good head coach or a good fit for the Broncos, but at least some of the things that were negatives for him while he was here would be positives for him at the pro level.

by Tydides on Dec 19, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach Kennedy

would be a great get if were were able to lure him to Westwood. He is one of the best, and having ties with CRN it could happen. I would love it. As for the defensive coordinator, I wrote in another post yesterday my thoughts on some great candidates and who might come. Here is a short overview:

DeWayne Walker: No way. We need fresh blood and a new philosophy. Time to move on…..plus he is 5-20 as a Head Coach and had one signature game as a DC for us. There are alot better options.

Rocky Long: Would love it!

Vic Fangio: No way does it happen. He is set up at Stanford.

Dave Wannsted: Interesting. Wouldn’t mind at all. Don’t think we have enough money, but we’ll see

My pick…..if you haven’t read……..Jeff Fitzgerald from the Cincinnati Bengals. Read his bio here: http://www.bengals.com/team/coaches/FitzGerald_Jeff/e0c0da73-7145-4a2f-8077-724853c322a3

The guys is a stud. Has local ties (played at Burroughs High School in Burbank), Pac-10 ties (played at Oregon State), has street cred (has coached in the NFL for years), has apprenticed for one of the best DC in the country (Mike Zimmer) and is an aggresive son of a b*****. He might be willing to come, and with the chance to be a coordinator (he is the linebacker coach right now) he might want to do it. He also is known on the practice field as a leader and is very vocal. Check out his bio and you might feel the same. This guy can coach!!

That’s it. If anyone has any other thoughts, start posting.

by muircoach on Dec 19, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

Jeff Fitzgerald sounds great.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Dec 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Outside the box

“Other names floating out there include former Miami head coach and defensive coordinator Randy Shannon (who had impressive defensive stats as the Miami DC), SDSU defensive coordinator Rocky Long, and Stanford defensive coordinator Vic Fangio.”

If we look beyond usual suspects to programs that rated in the top 50 defense against teams with Strength of Schedule greater than 50, (and not including teams that pay DCs more than they pay CRN, or would be after his job):

  1. - Pittsburgh
  2. - Boston College
  3. - Clemson
  4. - North Carolina St.
  5. - Illinois

by C.T. in Boston on Dec 19, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks Beller for Saving Me the Time

it would have taken to make the case against Walker. You did a great job and I’ll not write the Fan Post I thought might be necessary, yesterday, when I was stunned to see support for Walker showing up on BN.

Simply stated, as a DC, Walker was mediocre at best. His shining moment? The Immaculate Interception. Without that moment, sc was marching to score to end the game, in the same way so many other teams had done against Walker’s soft D schemes.

Frankly, Walker does not have the character I want in a UCLA DC. He threw players under the bus to make up for his own deficiencies. And, as you mention, his “manipulations and rumor mongering” during the process to hire the replacement for CTS were not the actions of a man with sufficient integrity to lead our student athletes.

There is no fact based case that would justify bringing Walker back. For the life of me, I cannot see why anyone who was here when he was here would even consider the hire.

And, if CRN even considers Walker, I think it’s time for me to jump on the dump CRN bandwagon and push for Mike Leach.

People of substance can calculate self interest. It is not in CRN’s best interests, or those of this team and program, to even consider bringing Walker back. If CRN cannot see that, I will lose complete confidence in him.

Can we all agree that Walker is not the right person for the job and move on? Or, do we have to go back and dredge up all of the old posts that focused on the empirical data to show that he was not getting the job done?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 19, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

I'm not for Walker coming back, but I think you're being way too harsh

Look at the overall talent on those teams. It was awful. Yeah, Walker had issues and bad moments (Notre Dame chief among them) but overall I was happy with him. I don’t want him back, because I agree that it would be running in place, but I don’t think he deserves this hate. You say the rumors of him going to LSU and Washington, along with this rumor, are “self created”. I’m sorry, but where’s the proof of that? Just because a rumor doesn’t happen doesn’t mean that it was started by the subject, and unless you have actual proof that he created these rumors you shouldn’t say he did.

Also, using his HC record isn’t the best way of saying he’s a bad DC candidate. Not only is being a HC miles different from being a coordinator, but I’d like to introduce you to one Gene Chizik. He went 5-19 (in his first HC job) in two years at a traditionally terrible program. Sound familiar? If you’re wondering where he is now, check the sidelines at the national championship game. He’ll be wearing the Auburn hat.

I’m not saying Walker is Chizik (though I see plenty of parallels). But I am saying that a) it’s not fair or smart to judge a defensive coordinator by his performance as a head coach at a terrible football school, and b) that talent matters more than people acknowledge when it comes to coaching performance.

I don’t want Walker back. But I also appreciate the time he put in as a Bruin and I’m not going to trash him just because he couldn’t turn mediocre talent into superstars.

by bucknellbruin on Dec 19, 2010 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Do a search of BN and you'll see the quotes and facts that support Beller's statements.

Walker, his family, and his representatives were at the bottom of many rumors AND some attacks on CRN’s character.

Beller is right and the record is here.

And, I’m not sure I agree with you that Walker had weaker talent than Bullough had, especially with the injuries we had this year. But, that’s not the point. The point is how one uses the talent one has— and neither Bullough nor Walker got the most out of what they had.

Their schemes sucked. You cannot have watched the Notre Dame and Nut Bowl games — games we should have won but for Walker’s complete failure to scheme and adjust — and think he’s getting a bad rap here.

And, you cannot say the words “Walker’s spread defense” without someone yelling “Oxymoron”.

Finally, does anyone think Walker had CTS’s back when CTS’ job was at stake? Not me.

Walker the oak and Bullough the acorn were the wrong trees for us.

I can’t speak for Beller, but I would not have posted a word were it not for the support for Walker on BN AND some rumors in the MSM that he might be under consideration.

I have absolutely no facts to support it, but I have my suspicions as to where the rumor of “Walker is being considered” started.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 19, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Look I don't want Walker back

I just think the attacks on his character are completely out of line. That’s all. I don’t want to debate about his tenure here because i agree that it wasn’t that good. But let’s just leave it at that – he wasn’t as successful as our DC as we wanted him to be, so we don’t want him back.

Trashing the guy because of rumors (maybe they are true, I looked briefly but didn’t find anything concrete. That being said, I do believe what you’re saying, 66. I just think that if a post is made slandering a guy, it is on the original poster to provide evidence.) and his performance as HC at an awful football school are unnecessary. He’s not coming back, there’s no way. So why hold such a grudge on this guy?

by bucknellbruin on Dec 19, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You must've of just changed your mind about DW coming back

because a couple of days ago you said in reply to whether what one thought about DW coming back you said “Walker gets a lot of crap around here and some of it is definitely deserved, but I would be very supportive of this.” (sorry I don’t know how to add links to comments as I don’t comment often) I remember this because I was taken aback that there are actually DW supporters around here.

by Angelitos on Dec 20, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, you mean this comment?

The one that he posted here:

Walker gets a lot of crap around here

and some of it is definitely deserved, but I would be very supportive of this. I always thought he played safe because he didn’t have the athletes to attack. Now he does, and I’ld like to see him get the chance. I think we can do better, but I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to him.

by bucknellbruin on Dec 18, 2010 12:20 PM PST

Hmm, maybe some people need to pick a position and stick with it rather than flip-flopping the next day.

Let’s cut to the chase, shall we? Walker is a bum and there is more than enough written up on BN that supports that. He was out for himself and no one but himself and, when you look at his track record, he never stays at one place more than 3 years. He’s always out for the next job, to get himself more money, a better title, etc.

You can call it slander all you want, but the truth disagrees with you. You take umbrage at my post because you’re a little Walker-supporter who “would be very supportive” of a guy who couldn’t stop the spread and is considered a “success” because of one single game (where he outsmarted offensive “wonderkid” Lame Kitten).

Never mind how the comparison to Chizik is a laughable joke.

by Bellerophon on Dec 20, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Compared with his bend and break predecessor and successor

… I submit that Walker was actually more aggressive and creative. This is not an endorsement of his return, or a challenge to the anti-Walker crowd, but a comment of how our DCs have sucked for a long time. I think Walker was better than both Kerr and Bullough. But I want someone better than Walker. Also no head-coach-in-transition candidates please.

by britishbruin on Dec 19, 2010 6:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd rather

Dorrell come back as WR coach than Walker as DC. -

by Bruins#1 on Dec 19, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

I would love to Rocky Long

back in Westwood! At least we know he would coach up the players and get the most out of them, but more importantly he could make adjustments! Something that was lacking under Bullough

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Dec 19, 2010 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

to see - my bad..

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Dec 19, 2010 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

With Rocky Long -- we always put pressure on opposing QB's

One of the signatures of the Walker/Bullough D’s was the lack of pressure on QB’s. Is it any wonder our opponents converted on so many 3rd and long yardage situations? Their QB’s just sat back and waited for a receiver to get open. Not even the best coverage guys can cover for ever.

Long was aggressive and very tough — two qualities we really need.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 19, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

What I remember about the Rocky Long era

was the timely big plays. I remember we would get interceptions or sacks right when we needed them the most. In fact, I remember one game at the Rose Bowl, I forget who, maybe Michigan or Texas, when I turned to my brother and said, “We could really use an interception right now.” Bingo! We got an Interception.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Dec 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey I gotta forgot to mention a candidate.........

this guy has NFL ties! Granted, he has been a loser as a head coach everywhere he has gone. With the Patriots……..LOSER! As head coach of the Jets……LOSER!! Now, he is coaching the Seattle Seahawks………a 6-7 record = LOSER!! Maybe CRN picks up the phone and asks Uncle Pete if he would like to come to Westwood and come to coach the defense. He surely knows as of now that he is destined to fail in Seattle.

Think of it. While he may be a loser, he left SUC in great shape. He wrote a book on winning and what it takes to be a cheater……..uh hum……..I mean winner. CRN would gain an extra year of “good will” with me if he would just call him up and ask if he was interesed in the job, just to piss him off. That would be classic.

by muircoach on Dec 19, 2010 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

If the Bruins had a defensive coordinator CANCER, why did it take so long to fire him?

I though after year one we had a problem, after the first month of year two why weren’t defensive corrections being made? Was Rick Neuheisel (RN) a laissez faire type leader with Chuck Bullough (CB), his new defensive coordinator? I get the impression RN was. Did RN ever say do it his way or the highway? Otherwise, why weren’t obvious corrections made? If CB didn’t get advice or help from RN, then did he at least get advice from his assistants as to playing different personnel and trying different defensive formations? Did CB get advice and stubbornly do it his way? There are a few questions here and we don’t know the answers. So, I don’t know if we can blame CB entirely for the defensive problems. We do have to put some blame on the players for poor execution. You guys are busy providing names for a new defensive coordinator. That’s Ok. It now has to be done. But, I want to know, if RN is such a great coach why couldn’t the corrections be made from within? Why did the defensive problems persist to such a point CB had to be fired? The same goes for the wide receivers coach, and maybe for Norm Chow.

One other question, were the coaches that CN fired under contract for next year? If they were, funds might be in short supply to hire new coaches.

I believe Norm Chow is still under contract for next year and that might be why he isn’t fired. Not enough funds to pay for an experienced offensive coordinator.

by rustyscrew on Dec 19, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

CNC is probably having his relatiionship scrutinized to give CRN the ability to let him go without a buyout

The way I read CRN’s comments today, he’s probably talking to CNC about their relationship. I think if CNC is to stay next year he’s going to have to be subservient to CRN. CRN’s big mistake was to relinquish too much power to CNC to induce him to come to UCLA. It didn’t work. CNC is good at what he does, but he needs a head coach to tie it all together.

CRN has said UCLA HC was his dream job. And he now knows this is his last chance to keep it. So offending or losing CNC is secondary. What’s now primary is WINNING. Too bad it took 3 years and 15-22 for that lesson to sink in.

BTW, I think Rocky Long would be a terrific DC and, if push came to shove, an excellent HC after Mike Leach. But we’re sticking with CRN for 1 more year. We better have a good year next year.

by BrendonBruin on Dec 19, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, it starts with the HC

We see a mediocre (at best) offense, and say CNC has lost it or can’t coach the pistol. We see a bland, vanilla defense and blame the DC. Now, I am NOT saying Bullough should have stayed, changes had to be made after the debacle of last season. But, it is definitely 100% CRN’s ship now and there is no reason to complain about coordinators, he should have exactly who he wants in there.

by JimmyBurke on Dec 20, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Rick........

  was spending all his time on getting the offense working. I think he let CCB handle the defense more or less on his own. Watching the first few offensive series by USUC, Rick looked like he was watching his family being murdered before his very eyes. The look on his face said Chuckie “You’ve F…ed me for the last time!” I knew he was a goner.

by Twothphry on Dec 20, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Strange...

I thought I saw a similar look (though more of a “I can’t F-ing believe we are doing this”) in RB’s eyes when CRN sent him out to try to draw the defense offsides on the infamous 4th down against SUC.

by JimmyBurke on Dec 20, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure about Kennedy
One interesting name to keep tabs on is Texas’ Bobby Kennedy. I know what you’re thinking: “why would a guy leave Mack Brown and Texas for UCLA?!”

Looks like a lot of people on BON want him fired. The complaints from Texas fans look very similar to the complaints on here about Moore. And there are rumors there that he’s headed to Colorado anyway.

by SuperBruinMan on Dec 19, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

I like the Jerry Rice idea.

He might not be able to coach (or he might), but what wr wouldn’t want to come play for him. CRN could help.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Dec 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

ya...

Jerry Rice would be awesome!

by captainqtp on Dec 19, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not...

…Rice has proven golf isn’t his game

by C.T. in Boston on Dec 20, 2010 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Norm Chow...

From Coach Neuheisel’s comments, it sounds like they could be sort of re-working some things with regard to position coaches on offense. As seems to be well understood, Norm Chow doesn’t have what it takes be an overall leader as a Head Coach, that may also likely be the case with regard to leading the entire offense.

That said, maybe Rick is thinking about changing Chow to QB and WR coach and bringing in a real leader type for the OC position (or even thinking about taking on the role himself). That would certainly work for me.

As for the DC position, Randy Shannon would be great, but it would take a miracle.

by rich87 on Dec 19, 2010 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

That would never happen...

From wanting and almost being UCLA’s head coach to accepting a demotion to QB coach? Now likely. I think CRN & CNC are just weighing all the options.

If I ventured a guess, it would be that…

1. Rick is gauging whether Norm wants to stay or leave
2. if he wants to stay, how will rick assert more power to play calling / what to do with the pistol
3. if he wants to leave (or if rick is truly wants norm out), how to work out the contract buyout details while determining if we’d be able to hire a top replacement.

I don’t think Rick will force Norm out if Norm really wanted to stay. He’s made so many promises to get him in the first place that it would look really bad to let him go (not that looking good is that important at this point) and would be like a slap in the face.

by suctoejam on Dec 19, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

Reggie Williams

Reggie Williams was gonna be an All-American no matter who the WR coach was at Washington. When he was a senior at Lakes HS folks up here were saying he was the best WR in the state, and that included UW, WSU, and the Seahawks.

That he was drafted high in 2004 is only part of the story. He flopped in the NFL and one has to wonder ho he may have done if his coach at Washington had instilled work habits in him.

by UCLA'65 on Dec 19, 2010 7:19 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think it's the scheme, necessarily

“Now, I don’t think it really matters if we run a 4-3, a 3-4 ….”

We could have used both an 8-7 and a 7-8 and still ended up with a 4-8 record, because NOBODY COULD TACKLE. (Pardon the shouting. Sometimes there is too much phony analysis and coach-speak. Coach K said it for me: “You have to line up and whip the guy across from you.” We didn’t do that.

by Fox 71 on Dec 19, 2010 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

But to their credit

They didn’t allow any 100-yard plays. :)

by UCLA4Life on Dec 19, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to be able......

 to stop your opponent from scoring. A scheme is just a way of doing it. Consistantly under CCB our defense would spot the opposing team one or two touchdowns before he would make any adjustments to the defense. We never pressured the opposing QB. We’d get torched on 3rd and longs and to make matters worse our defense couldn’t tackle.
  Last year our defense was better but we still had a tendency to spot our opponents a TD or two. All the complaints we voiced this year happened last year. The only difference was we had Price. This year Ayers and Moore were almost not heard from all year. What did Rheem have this year ,one freaking INT if I’m not wrong.

by Twothphry on Dec 20, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So...

No chance of convincing Carnell Lake to come back to Westwood to coach the secondary?

by UCLA4Life on Dec 19, 2010 7:32 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think CRN wants Walker back

From Gold’s blog:

On the decision to fire Bullough:
“I just felt – and certainly Chuck as organized as he is had counterarguments – I thought we needed to have a couple of alternative schemes that might be able to keep us as a more consistent defense. He’s a 4-3 guy, believes in a 4-3. It was certainly beneficial, in my opinion, to try to keep same system in place that DeWayne had. I thought we did some really good things, but at end of day we weren’t consistent enough in stopping the run. I thought some of the players we have might fit in alternate schemes. In my opinion, Chuck was not the guy to be an expert in that department.”

So if Bullough was fired because he could not come up with alternate defensive schemes, then I don’t Walker would fit the bill since he still is a 4-3 guy.

by Gen2Bruin1987 on Dec 19, 2010 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

+1

All the Walker talk is fairly silly.

by Bruin'96 on Dec 19, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Walker

Everyone remembers Walker for what is D did against FUSC in the 13-9 game, No one seems to recall how often the D got torched when going against spread style offense’s such as what Oregon uses, CRN needs to find a quality Defensive Coordinator who can shut down a pro style offense and shut down a college style spread and everthing an opposing offense throws at the Defense, DeWayne Walker is not that person.

by Tim Macias on Dec 19, 2010 11:53 PM PST reply actions  

Indecision by CTSS is concerning,

But not surprising given how indecisively he has coached his first three years. Wracking my brain I cannot remember a single time he acted decisively or aggressively in his schemes or play calling on either side of the ball.

So we have the spectacle of two slow fires some two weeks after the end of the season with no replacement for either in hand and the spectacle of CNC twisting in the wind while CTSS further analyzes his direction as if he has not dwelled enough on all of our problems during the past year. Meanwhile, recruits are making decisions while we are in limbo.

It is possible, but not probable that an in-demand DC difference maker would want to come to UCLA under these tenuous circumstances. Maybe we can get lucky, and someone qualified to take over for CTSS next year is willing to take the plunge, but again, that is doubtful.

This is what happens when a failed coach has to fire his failed assistants to stay on another year. Maybe he can get lucky, but so far it looks like putting a Band-Aid on a broken bone.

There is a bright side, I suppose. Anybody but CTSS in charge of the defense has to be an improvement. Oh, I forgot. CTSS will still be in charge, right?

by uclahy on Dec 19, 2010 11:57 PM PST reply actions  

Uh -- can you back up your post?

One has to view CRN’s behavior in context — look at what is going on now and where he is spending his time.

From what I understand, this is a key recruiting period and he is spending time trying to bring in people for the new coaches to coach. That will probably be made a bit more difficult by the fact that he decisively fired Bullough who was a strong recruiter and may have been the reason some of next year’s recruits chose UCLA; spending time shoring up those commitments is time well spent.

And, we do not know what he is doing behind the scenes to recruit replacement coaches — and what DG must do to raise the money to hire them in light of the fact that we still owe Bullough a year on his contract.

As to why he has not named a replacement, days after the openings occurred, many of the prime candidates are at programs that are still playing football — college teams have bowl games and the NFL season is still in play.

I think it totally unfair to say CRN is doing nothing UNLESS you have facts to support that he is doing nothing. Do you have his appointment schedule? Do you listen to his phone calls?

You want to call him an indecisive slackard? Prove it.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 20, 2010 6:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand your comment

One beef we have had is that CRN has not been involved enough in the playcalling, in fact it was one of the original agreements that he had with Chow when he got him on board, that he would not interfere with the offense. He only did so towards the end (against ASU, for example).

As for defense, CRN does not call the plays on defense, so I have no idea what you are talking about. And it is a bit much to expect an offensive-minded coach who specializes in QBs to become a playcaller on defense. He is involved in game planning but that’s it.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Dec 20, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say he's doing nothing. That's a straw man. I said he was indecisive.

I never said he’s not a hard worker or not recruiting now, but are you saying the man can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? He can’t decide to fire or keep CNC because he’s on the phone recruiting? It took two weeks after the season was over for him to realize the DC and WR coaches had to go?

He admitted his indecisiveness when he said at his own presser he was still “thinking about” coaching changes on offense, obviously referring to CNC. Did he say I have a replacement for the people I fired but they’re in a bowl game, so I can’t name them?

Other schools like Miami, Texas and Pitt, canned their people quickly. They have a sense of urgency. A few have already made new hires and others are conducting well advertised searches. They obviously thought these actions out before the season ended just like CRN should have, ideally.

So the man took two weeks to fire two coaches who, judged by the performance of their players were terrible, and he’s still openly thinking what to do about his OC, letting him twist in the wind, and you say I have to listen to the head coach’s phone calls and look at his appointment book personally before I can conclude he can’t make up his mind or is indecisive?

So far none of this seems to have affected Hundley, and maybe it will affect none, but it mirrors the way CTSS runs his program. I don’t think that’s a good thing in general.

Is CTSS’s public and slow decision making fair to CNC? I don’t think so. Is it good for recruiting? I don’t think so. Is it fatal to ultimately getting the right guy? Probably not, but it is consistent with how CRN calls plays and runs his program: indecisively.

by uclahy on Dec 20, 2010 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

You can't squirm away from what you wrote
So we have the spectacle of two slow fires some two weeks after the end of the season with no replacement for either in hand

There’s the essence of your complaint. He hasn’t replaced the two fired coaches. And, you use that as an example that he is “indecisive”.

As for the “two weeks”, CRN made clear that he was recruiting in that period, that the period was limited, and he wanted to maximize his effort there. Add to that the probability that he had to solidify some of the recruits attracted to Bullough, as he has had to do with Hundley who has a tie to CNC, and I think he’s doing the right thing at the right time.

My points stand: Many of the replacement coaches are with teams still playing. You don’t know whether he has had quiet conversations with them. They are not going to go public while their teams are still in play. Foolish speculation on your part that he is doing nothing. Has he completely wiffed on looking for coaches? You seem to think so. Prove it.

As to CNC, as has been written here — that is a multi-dimensional decision that one would expect will take time. It may be a no brainer for you, but not to many of us who support CNC.

In making that decision, CRN will need to decide what type of offense we will run, whether we have the personnel to run it — especially at QB, and whether CNC is the right OC to do the job. Also included is a financial constraint — we’ve just extended CNC’s contract and he will have to be paid. Deduct the $325,000 we owe Bullough and the 2 years (?) we will owe CNC and you have a sizable sum withdrawn from the money for new coaches; to make good hires, CRN will need to make sure we have money to get the best — and that takes time.

It would be totally irresponsible to do what you suggest, fire and hire — without resolving all of these issues.

And, once more, you ASSUME that you know what CRN is doing behind the scenes, the conversations he’s having with CNC, DG and others.

Sorry Hy, that’s a weak post based on speculation. You don’t like CRN and have reached a bit too far to attack him. There are decent arguments against him, based on facts. Yours is not one of them.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 20, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

well...

a ‘decisive’ coach would have fired Bullough the day after the $c game.

A ‘highly decisive’ coach would have fired Bullough (and Howard) midseason and elevated linebackers coach Clark Lea to interim DC.

Surely the $c game was not the tipping point re: Bullough and Moore. CRN must have known going into that game that barring some sort of miraculous shutout defensive performance that Bullough was out. I also don’t really get the recruiting argument – if the defensive recruits seemed really committed to Bullough, would we have kept him? If so, that’s the same bass-ackwards logic that got us into this mess in the first place; if not, we might as well have fired Bullough immediately and then started working on the recruits from a place of honesty and open information. To be honest, the only circumstance I would think justified keeping him on for extra days would be if we wanted to keep him on staff until the moment we had a replacement lined up, to avoid a limbo situation; but as hy points out, we don’t have someone ready to step in.

CRN doesn’t seem completely indecisive, but it does seem that things could have been done in a more decisive manner. Similarly, the Chow situation is lamentable, and I think CRN should have already made a decision on this.

One caveat – in all cases, CRN may be hamstrung in making decisions by an administration that is counting the pennies and needs to ‘negotiate’ firings with the fired employee in order to minimize compensation costs.

by britishbruin on Dec 20, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Couldn't Agree More with you

Anybody that thinks two weeks is too long to make 1) an evaluation of the season and what went wrong and who needs to be replaced, if anyone and 2) has no apparent understanding of the culture at Ucla, i.e. a state university operating under a bankrupt state and a Board of Regents that cares less about Ucla than Cal etc. 3) this being the prime recruiting time to bring in the fodder and talent to have anyone coach, IMO is either blinded by their bias of CRN and/or is ignorant of sound management principles and the facts of life as a HC at Ucla.

'CaptainJack65'
Jack Metcalf

by captainjack65 on Dec 20, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

In order to be decisive

you need a good backup plan, as you mention.

Clark Lea is a good LB coach, but he is young and doesn’t have a lot of experience. Hearing CRN, it seems he is looking for someone who is experienced enough to use different schemes. If CRN was a defensive specialist, I could totally envision him firing Bullough during the season. Regardless, I don’t think anyone can say that Bullough didn’t get a chance to prove himself. It’ll be telling to see where he lands, but I think he will go back to being a LB coach somewhere.

Personally, I have a feeling they are contemplating a return to the pro set next year, with some pistol elements, and that is why the CNC decision is tougher.

Your last point could be very important as well, because we have to remember that all these guys are state employees in the end…lots of regulations…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Dec 20, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

personally speaking

I would not make Clark Lea DC – but was referencing an earlier ‘tough actions for tough times’ post to show that there is a wide spectrum of ‘decisiveness’ by which to judge CRN’s decisions…

I would also note that at a number of schools, the head coach gets fired by the administration immediately after the last game; but my memory is less good on the norms for head coaches firing assistants.

by britishbruin on Dec 20, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I just hope that CRN has a plan

and someone in mind for that DC position. My hunch is that he does and hopefully it’s someone who will have an impact quickly. In the last 20 years, I can only think of 2 years in which we had a good offense AND a good defense (1997 and 1993)…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Dec 20, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

University of Texas Final Game Nov 25th

Offensive coordinator fired Dec 2nd. It can be done :)

by JimmyBurke on Dec 20, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fired but not replaced

they have a vacancy, today. So do we. What difference does it make that they fired theirs before we fired ours?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 20, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

I think think that 66 has it right on all counts. Even when the path seemed clear to remove Bullough, there are many things to consider before you make the call. The recruiting period that ended today is certainly a priority. And there then there’s the need to do the right things for the people that will be affected and make sure that the proverbial i’s are dotted and t’s crossed.

And on the CNC decision, that is more complex times a million. New offense put in this year. Hurt #1 QB who is prepping to try and battle back for his spot. Good performance by Brethaut. But which offense to choose? Which QB is the right one to run it? Which coach is the right one to coordinate it? How to make best use of Hundley coming in – in which offense – with which coordinator? And, what’s changed around UCLA in the Pac 12 that needs to be factored in?

Not just for CNC, but for all Bruins fans, I’m glad that this next decision is being carefully considered. I’m guessing pretty much all of us would like to see success on the field in 2011 in a big way and if making thoughtful decisions gets us there…so be it!

by 281bruins on Dec 20, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

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