Thursday Bowls Open Thread
by gbruin on Dec 30, 2010 3:42 PM PST
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PrintThe College Football Bowl season is in full swing today with 4 games on tap, including one ranked team (and 3 6-6 teams) in action. For any junkies or gambling degenerates, this means almost 12 consecutive hours of college football. Pinch me!
There may be corporate sponsors for the following bowls, but in the interest of dignity, I didn't try to find them or include them. All the games are on tWWL. Folks here will be interested in rooting for at least one of the teams:
Photo Credit: Joe Murphy, Getty Images
Matchups after the jump.
The Armed Forces Bowl starts things off at Noon EST, featuring Army (6-6) against SMU (7-6). While the name of the bowl ought to favor the armed force that is appearing in the contest, the game is actually being played on SMU's home field. Advantage Mustangs.
The Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium at 3:20 EST matches UCLA's season opener opponent Kansas State (7-5) against Syracuse (7-5). Unlike other baseball fields that double as a football stadium, both end zones are in play in today's game. Look for KSU to run and run and run some more.
The Music City Bowl at 6:40 EST pits UNC (7-5) against our friends from Tennessee (6-6). The Tar Heels expected big things this year, but struggled after an NCAA investigation resulted in 7 players being suspended for the season and 7 others for at least a game. If only they were an SEC powerhouse instead. Tennessee has won 5 in a row and hates Lane Kiffin more than we do. Go Vols.
The Holiday Bowl at 10 EST wraps up the day and features a rematch of #17 Nebraska (10-3) and Washington (6-6). These two teams met in Seattle in September when the Huskers dropped an enormous 56-21 ass kicking on the Huskies. UW got better as the season progressed and Jake Locker got back into the swing of things, but don't look for them to redeem the Pac-10's bowl season tonight.
Use this as your open thread for any comments regarding today's games or any other bowls, or any current thoughts on our Bruins. Hopefully, Bowls and Bruins will be more directly related next year.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Watching KSU - Syracuse
I’m guessing the piles of snow on the sidelines are taller than any hill the Kansas St players have ever seen in their state.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
KSU screwed by a salute
KSU scored a TD with just over a minute to cut the Syracuse lead to 2. The WR who broke a tackle and ran for the TD made a very quick salute to some KSU fans in the endzone, and was flagged 15 yds for excessive celebration. The ensuing 2 pt try was run from the 18yd line and was, not surprisingly, unsuccessful. Syracuse wins.
What a ridiculous and unnecessary call.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Worst call I may have ever seen in my life. Wouldn’t be surprised if a ref scandal comes out of this as the game was a pickem at kickoff, and this singlehandedly swung the win to Syracuse. Disgusting.
by bruinhopeful on Dec 30, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
What a terrible end to the game for KSU
The announcers rehearsed the rule from the rule book “doing anything that brings attention to the player”…..I guess he better not break the tackle and score then because all the stadium will be watching him.
In all seriousness, that was ridiculous. It was a salute that an officer in the army would make. He was saluting the fans who had traveled the 2,000 or so miles from one frozen tundra to another. He wasn’t signing autographs, jumping into the stands, doing the dirty bird/Icky shuffle etc.
Give me a break. Were the refs from the PAC 10?
Solidarity?
Not sure if the Tennessee players would have known about the controversial finish in the KSU-Syracuse game but they celebrated their first touchdown of the game with salutes.
I think it would be great if every college football player that scores from this point forward in the bowl season celebrated with a salute.
What a colossal blunder with clock management
Being reviewed now?
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Tennessee had 13 men on the field vs LSU and lost….UNC had like 18 guys on the field and were able to tie it. It’s gotta suck to be a tennessee fan right now. Major screwup by UNC though, looked like the LS and some of the linemen ran onto the field, with the coaches chasing after them, and then the kicker/holder started to run out as well.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 30, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
In the pros
thete would have been a 10 second run off for that penalty and the game would have been over, spike or not.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
I believe 10 second runoff is only for penalties that stop the clock when it is moving; ie, a false start, to prevent teams from stopping the clock with a false start. If you have illegal participation or illegal formation then the play goes forwards as run and you assess the penalty yardage after the result of the play. Anyway in the pros you’d hope that the FG unit doesnt try to run on the field with like 10 seconds left.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 30, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
You, sir, are exactly right.
Here it is from the mouth of the NFL rule book:
Section 7 Actions to Conserve Time
Article 1 A team is not permitted to conserve time inside of one minute of either half by
committing any of the following acts:
(a) a foul by either team that prevents the snap (i.e., false start, encroachment, etc.)
(b) intentional grounding;
© an illegal forward pass thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage;
(d) throwing a backward pass out of bounds;
(e) spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play after a down has ended, except after a touchdown; or
(f) any other intentional foul that causes the clock to stop.
So, in fact, too many men on the field is not an automatic runoff, even though the clock was running when this particular penalty was committed. You could envision a scenario though, where an illegal formation could be run intentionally to stop the clock, i.e., having a downfield receiver snap the ball before all the linemen get to the line of scrimmage, as long as those linemen are not moving. Then the refs would have to decide whether that falls under f) above.
I’m glad you’re here to keep me straight, jtthirtyfour.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Are Tennessee's jerseys a different shade of orange than normal?
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
I think they are wearing those new adidas stretch fit jerseys. Looks like we arent the only team whos uniforms have been tweaked because of the new material.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 30, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
The UConn streak is over
Probably a good thing for them that the Stanford game got pushed back two weeks (and a couple of slots in the schedule) over the summer.
formerly bruinhoo
Really?
They bumped the game back? Sounds like they knew that they’d actually be playing a talented team on the road before they got to 88. Weak sauce.
by orlandobruin on Dec 31, 2010 4:39 AM PST up reply actions
I just got home and saw the score.
I watched the first half and Stanford was incredible. They have 5 6 footers on the court the hole time. It’s pretty amazing. I’m really glad this happened. It should help our Bruins with seating come tournament time. Hoping for a big turnout when Stanford comes to town. And an even bigger one Jan. 8th when cooper and his women trogans are at Pauley.
Congratulations Stanford.
Go Bruins!
Except for Tyler Bray
who is playing like John Elway. I wish he had wanted to go to UCLA…oh wait, he did want to go to UCLA and we didn’t offer him a scholie.
No good explanation on the PF at the end on TN
i don’t buy Davies’ claim it was roughing the kicker. On a FG, you either accept or decline that. I wonder if the bench said something objectionable.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
TN throws INT in 2OT
UNC needs any score to win.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
While NOT that comparable, some parallels...
our 88-game winning streak was started after Notre Dame beat us in 1971, and then was ended when Notre Dame beat us (ugh!) in 1974. UConn’s streak started when Stanford beat them in the 2008 NCAA Tournament Final Four. And it ended tonight.
Interesting that both streaks involved the same school book-ending the losses that made up the streak, no? Both were also cases of private schools beating a public school whose name begins with the letters “UC”. ;-)
It is kind of interesting, the parallel.
On the other hand, there are only a hand full of women’s teams that could ever think of competing with UCONN. Where many could have ended, started the streaks with our Men’s team.
Go Bruins!
ended up being a good sports day
What seemed like a normal sports day ended up being really good with that K State Syracuse game the chaos that was Vols-Tar Heels, Stanford women snapping UConn’s streak…who knows what else will happen
Weird
So weird to be cheering for the team tonight that I’ll be cheering against tomorrow!
Go Udub….for now
Go Bruins!
Back to the UNC-Tennessee game
Oh man, got to see the video on youtube from the end of regulation…I believe the correct call should’ve been illegal participation, not illegal substitution, or “having more than 11 men on the field”. They assessed 5 yards and it should’ve been 15 – makes it a 49-yard FG not a 39-yarder.
Actually, I think that should’ve happened is the refs should have blown it dead once the kicker/holder for UNC set – play should be blown dead if the offense lines up with more than 11 guys – illegal substitution, 5 yards – only way the ball should be in play with more than 11 guys on offense is if the guys are trying to run off the field (which the kicker/holder clearly were not) or if the refs didn’t notice more than 11 guys on the field (which you’d have to be blind to miss). Since illegal sub is a pre-snap penalty, the spike doesn’t take place and I believe the clock continues to run (and if there were a run-off, I think you’d be subject to it).
So you’d either have UNC trying to kick with a running clock from 39 yards or from 49 yards with a stopped clock.
gbruin...
Hope you didn’t place any bets based on your predictions…;-)
by BruinFanGA on Dec 31, 2010 5:27 AM PST via mobile reply actions
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