Darren Collison scores 25 to lead the Hornets over the Celtics
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Looks like Darren had a great night with 25 points, 9 assists, 3 rebounds, and 4 steals (despite 10 turnovers).
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I was just about to post something about this. He has been nothing short of sensational since taking over the starting job for CP3.
Here are his stats in his 7 games as starter:
48% FG, 42% 3pt, 22.5 pts, 11.2 ast, 4.2 reb, 1.7 stl.
I don’t have other PG stats to compare to over that stretch, but I imagine those numbers would match up pretty favorable with anyone in the league.
Go Darren!
Correction
Sorry, I made the averages based on 6 games, not 7. His actual averages are:
19.3 pts, 9.6 ast, 3.6 reb, 1.4 stl.
Still extremely impressive.
Apparently 13 of his 25 came in the 4th
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010021003
His opponent, egotistical Rondo, only had 7 pts on 2-7 shooting!
Now THAT’s how you close!
looking closer though
it seems like the Celtics only played their starters half the time.
Are they trying to stay fresh for the playoffs? They don’t have the best record this year.
Seems a lot of their subs were doing better than the starters
Maybe they were going with the hot hands.
Farmar went nuts tonight too
Helping the Lakers pound the Jazz in Utah. 18 points on 7-11 shooting including 4-4 on 3s.
I wish they'd add DC
to the Rookie challenge. KL and RW will be there. DC needs to join them for a great reunion game!
Go Bruins!
Great DC video
Sorry I don’t have the link, but if you go to the hornets website and then the rookie diaries, scroll to the bottom of the page where the team is hazing DC. He shows his usual confidence, leadership, humor, and style in “SONG”!
Go Bruins!
DC has been playing like an all-star
DC is playing unbelievable ball right now (except for the turnovers which were badly inflated by this game and are more a product of being the only ballhandler on his entire roster).
Here is what DC has averaged since replacing CP3 in the starting lineup (7 games): 19.28 points, 9.57 assists, 1.43 steals, 4.85 turnovers.
For reference, here are the averages for the all star guards
CP3: 20.4 points, 11.2 assists, 2.3 steals, 2.6 turnovers
Deron Williams: 18.8 points, 9.8 assists, 1.1 steals, 3.2 turnovers
Steve Nash: 14.6 points, 8.2 assists, 0.8 steals, 2.8 turnovers
Rajon Rondo: 14.4 points, 9.8 assists, 2.5 steals, 3.0 turnovers
Derrick Rose: 19.9 points, 5.9 assists, 0.8 steals, 2.9 turnovers
And just for kicks and giggles
Jrue Holiday (in his last 11 games, all of which were starts): 5.18 points, 2.54 assists, 0.81 steals, 1.27 turnovers
Boy, not staying that extra year really paid off!
JH is well on his way to becoming a full-fledged All-Star…
…in Greece.
That's a ridiculous statement
Holiday is the youngest player in the NBA, almost three full years younger than Collison. It’s way too early to make any assessment of his pro career or of whether he’ll be well served by his decision to leave UCLA early.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on Feb 10, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Love DC and his performance
but he needs to limit those TO’s. It’s going to bite him in the ass and keep him from becoming one of the premier PG’s in the NBA.
you're talking about an NBA rookie
This is astonishing. We all know that DC didn’t have ungodly athleticism while at UCLA. He’s not Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. By all accounts, he doesn’t have the potential freakish athleticism of Russell Westbrook. His athletic ceiling isn’t very far off.
So his accomplishing this and holding the fort down for the best PG in the NBA as a rookie is mind-blowing. His success so far at the NBA level is a direct product of his immense hard work for four solid years at UCLA, the defense and fundamentals he developed under Coach Howland, and his leadership also honed from leading two Final-Four teams and taking on a dominant role in his last college year.
I have so much respect for the guy, and while I personally never saw him fighting for a legitimate starting PG role in the NBA so soon, I applaud him every step of the way.
So getting to the turnovers point, he’s still a rookie (and a relatively modest-athletic rookie at that). Watch the video recap on BSPN and he couldn’t really dunk on the break-away. But his self-confidence and tremendous composure and poise will, over time, reduce those TOs. He ended up in the perfect spot backing up CP3 for a few years before heading elsewhere to start.
by longbordr52 on Feb 10, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
John Stockton
Not the greatest athlete at PG, still hall of famer…
I'm not saying that
I’m not impressed with his numbers. Even though I thought he was a phenomenal player at UCLA, I had no clue he’d be posting up these kinds of stats. However, 10 TO’s, whether you’re a rookie or not, is always a little worrisome.
And Rondo is not the best PG in the NBA. But it still does make a huge statement that DC held the fort down against a player of Rondo’s caliber. If he gets his TO’s down, with him posting up these kinds of numbers, we’re talking about one of the top 10 PG’s in the NBA.
At least it doesn't happen on a consistent basis
Based on the past 7 seven games’ stats, he has a pretty solid assist/turnover ratio at a lil over 2:1. Hopefully the 10 TOs is an aberration, but it’s happened to other players like Carmelo (and Melo’s not even the primary ball-handler on his team).
by Alanamaslama on Feb 11, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Glad he had a good game,
because he shot the Hornets out of the game with Orlando, missing 3 of 4 in the closing minutes, after a decent game. He’s one of my favorites.
GO DARREN!
Man, night after night this guy is MORE than solid. So great to see one of my all time favorite Bruins take care of business and shock the league!
GO BRUINS!!!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
I was alone when I said the drop off would be shallow
Darren needs to fix the turn overs but that’s it.
I think he is perfectly situated, if Paul can be a team player and let Darren get 10-15 minutes a night, the Hornets will have a great point guard tandem.
The point I'd like to make in this thread ...
is to note just how much talent Ben Howland had to work with in his three Final Four seasons.
Farmar doesn’t start, but he’s become a legit rotation player on probably the best team in the league. He might start for quite a few weaker teams. Darren Collison is starting because Chris Paul is hurt, but he’s clearly a very good, NBA caliber player. Arron Afflalo starts in Denver, the team with the second best record in the west. Kevin Love is in and out the the T-Wolves starting line-up, but I don’t think anyone needs to be reminded just how good he is, the fact that he doesn’t start all the time is more to do with the ’Wolves rotation than anything else. Luc Richard Mbah A Moute is in and out of the Bucks starting line-up and is an established role player in the NBA. Russell Westbrook starts for Oklahoma City and is playing great basketball.
When you see it all written out, it becomes clear we were stacked for those three seasons. Compare what we had to the team that Gonzaga had when we came back and beat them. They had two fringe NBA players in Turiaf and Morrison, we had Luc, DC, Farmar and Afflalo. There is no comparison.
And for the record, Mata-Real, Aboya and Shipp are all playing professional basketball overseas. They aren’t NBA players, but they are good enough to make money playing basketball.
I don’t want to turn this positive thread into a knock on this year’s team, but how many guys on this team look like they are going to make a living playing basketball? Roll? No. Keefe? No. Dragovic? Maybe — but only because he is foreign and there might be a place for him back home. Abdul-Hamid? No. Lee? I guess so, but so far he isn’t giving us anything close to what we got out of Farmar, AA or DC. Anderson? Ditto. Nelson, Lane, Morgan, Moser? Who knows … so far, none of them are going to be cashing any NBA checks, but we haven’t seen enough to know.
Suffice it to say, this year’s team doesn’t have nearly the talent we had during the Final Four years. What’s interesting is just how loaded those teams were — they were simply stacked.
Ronnie Turiaf graduated in 2005
Aside from that, very good points. Scary to see how far our team has dipped in terms of talent-level when you put it like that.
by Alanamaslama on Feb 11, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks ...
I guess I confused Turiaf with another big man … who took the last shot in that game for Gonzaga?
Doesn’t matter … we agree on the main point… good catch on Turiaf …
Does "Batista with the shot!" sound familiar?
It was something like that. I only remember on account of the announcer going so crazy…“UCLA has climbed the mountain!”
Batista ...
I confused him with Turiaf.
I love Gus Johnson — he could make a chess tournament sound like a two trains colliding.
Chess tournaments and train crashes.
That is a fantastic line, A. Jim Murray would like that one.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
great work from DC
comparing him to JH is a waste of time.
1) who knows what DC would be averaging right now if he had come out after his junior year, now having a year in the big league under his belt?
2) who knows what JH will be doing next year as a 2nd year player with a year under his belt, rather than being a rookie next year with another year of college playing for a bad UCLA team? His numbers in isolation this year prove nothing.
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