Spaulding Roundup: Followup On Pac-10 Expansion Chatter & Other UCLA Football Notes
Wow. Looks like the discussion on Pac-10 expansion have spread like firestorm all over the internets. Yesterday I wrote about being against adding any schools from Utah. I have not changed my mind but I can see the merits of a package involving Colorado and Utah. We will see how it works out. One thing is for certain. Any expansion chatter should be nonstarter without Colorado in the mix. Pac-10 should look at as Colorado Plus One step. There is another really good argument from the perspective of Colorado fans. Phil Wallace noted in LA Observed (emphasis added):
Colorado: In 1994, the Pac-10 actually invited Colorado into the conference, only to be rebuffed. At the time, Colorado was just beginning play in the new Big-12 Conference, and did not want to go back on its commitment.
Times have changed though, and Colorado might be more interested this time around. Geographically, Colorado is in an odd location, where road games in Ames, Iowa; Columbia, Missouri; and College Station, Texas; aren't any closer than trips to LA, San Francisco, or Seattle. Most alums would probably rather travel west.
Back in 1994, Colorado was a major football power, but the program has since fallen on hard times and might be looking for a change of scenery. While it has a rivalry with Nebraska on Thanksgiving weekend, that game has lost some luster.
Colorado is highly desirable for the conference as Denver is a major market where the Pac-10 has virtually no presence. While its football team has struggled, there's no reason to believe that Colorado can't be successful on the gridiron again. Its basketball program has little history, but they do have a good coach in Jeff Bzdelik, and they would certainly be competitive.
The fact is, any Pac-10 expansion talk begins with Colorado. The question is, would they accept?
The answer at least from the Colorado fan perspective seems to be very positive. The Colorado fan sentiment of being more excited about Pac-10 road trips (sans Pullman) is evident here, here and here. Right now there is a poll on SBN's CU blog - Ralphie Report - which indicates more than 60 percent of Buff fans would want to join us in Pac-10. Colorado in the Pac-10 makes a lot of sense.
Now as far as the other team is concerned, I would prefer Colorado State because than the symmetry would be perfect, but I could be potentially open to a package deal with Utah. Bottom line though for me there is should no Pac-10 expansion without Colorado. We shall see how it all turns out. More football notes after the jump.
Ted Miller has done a little spring football power rankings for the Pac-10. He ranks UCLA at number 8:8. UCLA: The Bruins offense must break through next year because it's hard to imagine the defense won't take a step back after losing six starters, including tackle Brian Price and cornerback Alterraun Verner. Problem is the offense, which loses four starters, ranked ninth in the conference in scoring in 2009.
This is completely fine with me. I actually like flying under the radar heading into this season. Except for the road trip in Eugene, none of the Pac-10 matchups scare me all that much heading into next season. Perhaps Washington is going to be ultra tough because it will be a make or break year with Jake Locker and the law of averages is piling up against us. But we always play them tough. Don't get me wrong. All Pac-10 road games are tough these days but I am feeling pretty good about how our program has been progressing last two seasons. I have no problem with the national observers ranking us low at this time of the year. Let's keep our fingers crossed for a healthy and productive spring football camp.
Speaking of camps, Brian Price has been going to through his draft related activities. He recently did a Q&A with the Draft Zoo during which he talked about UCLA:
DZ: Are you proud of the direction that UCLA is headed? Did you like being part of the rebuilding process?
BP: Yeah, absolutely. That’s why I went there, to help put UCLA back on the map and to really build it back up. So yeah, I’m happy with it.DZ: You got a new coach during your tenure, Rick Neuheisel, who has NFL experience. And your D line coach, Todd Howard, played and coached in the pros. What’s one thing you learned from a staff with a lot of NFL experience?
BP: Yeah, our D Line coach, Todd Howard, really stressed having great technique. That’s something that can take you a long way at any level. Once you get to the NFL, with all of the veterans, they know what they’re doing and you have to know what you’re doing. A lot of guys extend their careers by using good technique even after they lose a step physically. It’s important to have the right technique, or you might fall of some when you get [to the NFL].DZ: Who’s the best offensive lineman you’ve ever faced?
BP: Hmmm, the best? Kai Maiava my teammate at UCLA. Everyday in practice. When you play here, the guys you face in practice are as good as you’ll see in college football.
tWWL's Todd McShay has Brian at number 15 on his draft board. I smell an NFL Draft open thread on BN, which I believe is going to be the first one ever (definitely not the last one under CRN) on BN.
Brian is of course the classic example of a "UCLA type of guy," and that allows me to end this roundup with a note on Lame. Larry Brown Sports took note of Lamey's recent comments concerning his "10 minute rule":
First of all, when Kiffin was working at USC last time Karl Dorrell was the coach in Westwood and he allowed the Trojans to take their pick of top recruits in So Cal like they were Neil Patrick Harris walking into a brothel. This time around it’s Rick Neuheisel coaching the Bruins — someone who lives for recruiting and has no qualms about stealing your recruit nor your wife. In other words, times are completely different now and Kiffin’s words sound solely like sour grapes coming from a man who saw a few top recruits choose UCLA over USC — not the way it was supposed to be (or used to happen). I’m not about to gloat over UCLA winning a few recruiting battles. Only time will tell if those really were victories for the program because most of player development depends on coaching. Neuheisel and Chow have a pretty good track record of maximizing talent. Pete Carroll was legendary for his abilities. Ed Orgeron was a flop. Lane Kiffin? I have a good reason to believe his results will not match his mouth.
Don't think Larry is alone on that last note.
GO BRUINS.
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Pac-10 expansion
I’m totally in favor of adding 2 teams to the conference and I also agree that if Colorado isn’t one of them, then don’t even bother. However, while I do like the Pac-10’s existing geographic “symmetry,” I would be willing to sacrifice it rather than take a crap school like Colorado just to maintain it. Rather, I would like to see either BYU or Utah as the 12th team. Having said that, I would rather have both Utah and BYU joined rather than Colorado and Colorado State. There is a natural rivalry between those two schools and having worked with alums from those schools, I can assure you that they HATE eachother as much as we hate U$C.
yep, gonna have to +1 that
On Saturdays, I need caffeine to wake up and start drinking at 10 am at the Rose Bowl…
"We should have a banner up there: the only team to make the tournament without a coach." -- Baron Davis, remembering his "coach" at UCLA
by inhowlandwetrust on Feb 11, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Check with the Florida State fans
When they came out to Provo last year for the road game the team and the fan base stayed up in Park City. The City threw a huge peprally for them in the park and it was actually really cool. FSU arranged busses for the fans staying in Park City down to Provo. It’s only a 40 min drive from PC to Provo and it’s much better.
by beeru on Feb 11, 2010 12:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Colorado a "crap school"?
I don’t agree with your assessment of Boulder. It is certainly not any “crappier” than at least 5 of the schools in our current Pac 10. On what do you base your “crap meter”? Are you referring to their current football status, academics, or both? Please enlighten me.
I think Sacto meant Colorado State
He made it clear in the beginning that he likes Colorado
by Sideout11 on Feb 11, 2010 9:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ok, Thanks.
I was in Boulder to see CU beat Kansas in a football upset this past October, and it was a blast. Great campus, town and people. I think their addition to the Pac 10 would enhance our conference and draw more of our fans to out of state games in a fun venue.
+1
Fort Collins isn’t bad either. I’ve been there and its a fun town and they have passionate sports fans. I think if it makes sense to expand, then adding these two would be great additions!
I am assuming he meant football/bball
or he meant CSU….
CU’s football team has been terrible as they are stuck in a Dorrellian-type era. Basketball is on the rise again thanks to a new coach and a good recruiting class.
I stated before – many are pining for Eric Bieniemy to come to CU either as a first-time Head Coach or as a RB Coach at the very least. Our very own MJD is pushing for EB to get back to Boulder, which could be in the next year. That would immensely help their recruiting… EB was with MJD at UCLA and is now working with Adrian Peterson and the Vikes. CU pulls a good number of top quality RB recruits already (who seem to fade or transfer to UCLA – or at least try to transfer to UCLA – see Darrell Scott.)
by BruinInDenver on Feb 11, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Really?
Yes, please clarify “Crap School”? I would love to have CU in our conference. They have a beautiful campus, fine academcis and I bleieve one national championship in football? One of my best friend’s went to school at CU and I used to visit him several times a year, even KD’s 1st year in westwood for the game. They have “the hill” which is awesome, some of the tastiest beer ive ever had and some great sandwhich shops as well. I agrree with N, no colorado no way. I don’t care for Utah or BYU, but I will not say that their academics are “Crappy” when compared to other schools in our own conference.
by westwood12003 on Feb 11, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Go BP!
I hope he ends up with the Chiefs, or maybe even Jacksonville (MJD, Marcedes…possible relo’ to L.A>). He has been such a great representative of UCLA…I wish him nothing but wild success.
As for expansion, I’m with N on this one. Colorado/Colorado State makes the most sense. Besides, I would love to roadtrip to Denver!
why would you wish that on any Bruin?
"We should have a banner up there: the only team to make the tournament without a coach." -- Baron Davis, remembering his "coach" at UCLA
by inhowlandwetrust on Feb 11, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Misery loves company
Sorry AMM19 until that old man in the sweat suit dies, you are stuck.
Who dies 1st? Al or Don King?
Now that you mention it
I have never seen them at the same time.
I know this is a stretch but....
Nevada and UNLV?
my main facetious argument against this
is that it would take the luster off our regularly scheduled appearances in the Las Vegas Bowl…
by britishbruin on Feb 11, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
lol
Not too worried about that. Hopefully, in the future, our bowl games will be in our home stadium!
by LoveMyBruins on Feb 11, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
I heard BYU was out
I heard BYU was out because they can’t play on Sundays and the P10 plays on Sundays, especially women’s sports. Someone on sports talk radio was saying that.
I think CU/CSU would be cool.
Gotta love this line: “I have a good reason to believe his results will not match his mouth.”
by RealisticBruinFan on Feb 11, 2010 8:54 AM PST reply actions
Expansion, I like the idea
My first choice would be CU and CSU, My second would be CU & Utah,
Also how about all schools dropping two non conference games, so everyone
plays each conference school every year, that way sucksc can’t luck out and not
have to play a tough opponent in any given year.
GO BRUINS.
Non-con games are valuable
if anything they would go to 4 games and 8 con games
"I can't believe I ate the whole thing" Homer Simpson
Which comes first in the revenue generating process?
Does the new Pac 10 commish seek out the new, more lucrative TV deal or does he pursue conference expansion in hopes of getting a sweeter TV deal?
Whatever brings in the most $$$
I’m pretty sure the powers that be are evaluating the possible scenarios right now.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Feb 11, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Another Lame Kiffin Song
Go to You Tube and see Shaytards meet Coachtard Lane Kiffin. It is a backup to the Lane Kiffin Song. See what they say u$c stands for.
by Forever a Bruin on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM PST reply actions
I don't know how to do that or I would but -
If you go on the Runaway Lane Song, it will put this video on the screen as another choice. Hope you and others find it.
by Forever a Bruin on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojQm0vIKrv8
Very funny. Thanks for sharing.
by truebluebruin on Feb 11, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
A Big Thank you truebluebruin.
Thanks for putting the link on here. I appreciate it!
by Forever a Bruin on Feb 11, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
What about TCU?
I can’t remember where I read it, but on one of the message boards a couple days ago, they were mentioning that TCU was on the list behind Utah and Colorado. I believe it meets the requirement of a research institution. And, expanding recruiting to Texas would be awesome. I know we wouldn’t have the regional rivalry, but I actually really like the idea TCU + Colorado.
I think we are missing something in candidates
If TV is driving this, and the conference really cares about academics, then the Colorado and Texas schools should be automatically eliminated, not because the academics of the schools themselves are poor, but because of the impact of the increased travel time on the academics of the student-athletes. There is also a relevant consideration of travel costs for schools that are further away.
Which leads me to the school that everyone is forgetting: UNLV
UNLV is the dominant school is a rapidly growing TV market and state, and is a very close flight for all of the PAC-10 schools. In combination with Utah, it would clearly reinforce the PAC-10 dominance in the Western and Mountain time zones while saving travel time and costs for all of the squads.
Some may object to the poor academic reputation of UNLV, but there are several schools in the PAC-10 that are not exactly academic powerhouses, themselves.
And as far as road trip potential, what could beat going to a game in Vegas?
little more complicated
than just saying “academics.”. I’m not 100% sure on the specifics. But, from what I understand, a PAC-10 school has to be a research institution. You are correct about a couple schools in the conference. However, they are grandfathered in and don’t have to meet the same requirements as a new school. That’s how it was explained to me anyway.
by bruin_nerd on Feb 11, 2010 2:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey
I thought BruinInDenver and I were the only BNers here. Get in touch with us.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Denver Alumni
Sounds great.
I was at several of the Denver Alumni game watches this fall at Maloney’s. We had a pretty good crew of 6 or so regulars. There havent really been any for basketball season, but join the Alumni in Denver facebook group if you’re on it: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=100453909276
There are many other potential revenue sources
If the Pac TEN does things properly, they can double or triple their revenue, and with only ten schools’ snouts at the feeding trough, everyone would get more:
1. Sell name rights on fields. “Welcome to the beautiful Roscoe’s House of Chicken & Waffles Rose Bowl, for today’s battle between the ….”
2. Sell name rights for teams: “… Maytag Washer and Dryer UCLA Bruins and the University of Washington Budget Rent a Car Huskies.”
3. There are plenty of available biceps for the sale of tattoos (and the players could get a modest stipend)
4. Take the UCLA decal off the helmet – we know who we are. Think of all the money that could be brought in if there were a huge “Tide” logo on the side of that baby.
5. The red zone is for sale. The first down marker is for sale. Each yard line is for sale.
6. Been to Wal Mart lately (that’s the geezer equivalent of the mall.) About every ten feet there’s a TV screen with a commercial. Want a captive audience? Do a commercial at the stadium every time they do one on TV. And you could have a little rivalry – TV revenues would have to increase, or the school could do loud commercials during the game for the sponsor’s rival products.
7. Sorry, Marching Band, but your repetoire will have to change. “Here’s the halftime extravaganza brought to you by Dodge trucks” and the band plays the Dodge truck theme while the card section (for an extra charge of course) holds up a picture of Howie Long.
8. Sorry, students and fans, but the prices will have to go up, because we’re all about maximizing revenue. And the mark-up on consessions is going up. Of course, no food at tailgate parties other than that purchased from the official purveyor of such things, with a royalty going to the conference. Eat too much at the tail gate party, get bloated and need to take a trogan? Aha, that’s when the demand increases for TP, and that’s going to set you back whatever is left in your wallet, your friend’s wallet (will he want to sit next to you if you don’t get the TP?) and everyone else in your section.
I’m sure there are more sources of revenue. And by golly, we need to increase revenue. I don’t want to hear anything about tradition, or the inherent fairness of playing everyone else in the conference, or how students and fans shouldn’t have to put up with the constant commercialism, and how it would just be wrong to change the name to “The Chia-Pet Court Which At One Time Was Known As The Nell And John Wooden Court.” Revenue is king. Long live revenue. We need more freakin’ revenue. MItch and Murray paid good money for these leads, now go start closing. Oops – strayed a bit.
You know, revenue is so vital, maybe California should start a lottery with all the money going to education. Then in about a year, every kid would be like, you know, literate, hello.
I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me revenue or give me death!
I like it, especially for the cross town Condoms!
KY could be the official lubricant of the Trojies, and AstroGlide could sponsor the smoothest move of the game. Every time a Tight End is involved in a play KY get’s to put in a plug!
Funny
There’s a background KY ad right now
by lil eg not cs on Feb 11, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Agree!
Pac-10 conference needs to bring back leather helmets and abolish the forward pass. Who cares what anyone else is doing, we need to remain in our bubble. Kick Arizona and Arizona State out of the league, this isn’t about revenue or making money! Change is bad! Bring back the Pac-8. Oh, and while we’re at it, outlaw dunking in all league and non-conference games.
And do we have to have the games on television? What was wrong with radio. And for god’s sake, no more internet coverage. Nothing wrong with newspapers! And how dare anyone consider touching Pauley Pavilion. If it was good enough in 1967, it should be good enough for 2010!
Leave things like forward thinking and increased revenue to the SEC, Big 10 and Big XII. Pac-10, soon to be Pac-8, should never change!
Some good points in there, Billy
I don’t think that all change is good simply because it’s a change. I don’t think that it’s necessarily forward thinking. Would you advocate the forward thinking change of lowering the admissions standards at UCLA, and not just for athletes? Let anyone who wants in get in. The problem with that is that your degree (I assume you’re not still a student) is diluted. It worked just the opposite for me. It was a lot easier to get in when I applied, and now my UCLA degree is looked on with a bit of wonder. People see what UCLA is now and think that I must be as smart as the current crop of students, which in fact is not true.
I reiterate my opinion that expansion of the league generates inherent unfairness. Major league baseball has that inherent unfairness, although it’s palliated a bit by the long season. Not every team in the league plays every other team the same number of times. If you’re fortunate enough to have a lot of your games against lesser teams than your close competitor, you have an advantage. Any round robin like the Big 12 and the SEC is unfair by definition. Same with the Pac 10 tournament, in my opinion. In recent years, a Pac 10 football tournament would have given just$c* a second chance, and I don’t want that.
By the way, were you around during the no-dunking years? It was a different game. You probably wouldn’t have liked it, but I confess I did. It seemed more elegant. There weren’t all that many guys who could dunk in those days. I don’t think there is as much “art” in being tall and dunking the ball as there is in having a soft touch around the basket. But if you’ve grown up with the nba dunking contest, then that’s what you’re used to, I suppose. But don’t denigrate the way the game was played by Alcindor and Walton. (I don’t suppose I can sell you on giving up MTV and switching over to opera, but maybe you should give it a try. Seriously. If you think it’s only very large women in helmets, look on YouTube for Anna Netrebko in the Bed Scene in Manon. She isn’t rotund, and she isn’t wearing a helmet in that scene.)
Anyway, your exaggerated points are no better or worse than my exaggerated points, but I think there is a lot of merit to selling the red zone to Victoria’s Secret. “Lots of excitement when you get in the Victoria’s Secret Red Zone!”
Looking at the whole question a different way
Football:
All the other expanded conferences have a conference championship and have effectively divided their conference into 2. The other expanded conferences do NOT play all the other teams in their conference each year. So, assuming that pattern, the expanded PAC 12 would be divided presumably into the pairs. My quick take is that there would be a South and North: UCLA, USC, CAL, Stanford, ASU and UofA in the South. We would NOT consistently play the Washington, Oregon or added schools each year. OR one could see UCLA, USC, Arizona schools and the added schools. I am not sure I like EITHER options very well. Dont have to do it like all the other expanded conferences but there is all the BCS advantages of playing more cupcakes for the conference to get more wins so I think it would head that direction.
Does not sound great to me (conceding that the money will determine this not my sentiments).
BASKETBALL:
The hallmark of the current schedule is the true round robin, with the general model of playing a “pair” of teams each weekend. I love it and believe it to be great prep for the NCAA tournament. I am less certain on this for basketball, but that does not appear to be what the expanded conferences have done in basketball. I do not think it likely that the true round robin would continue (we would lose 4 cupcake, non-conference games). And if the weekend for a pair of games was to continue, travel logistics should count for something. A SLC to Denver flight should be easy enough to keep the model working.
My sentiment would be to favor expansion in basketball IF we stayed with a true round robin for the new PAC 12. I would love to see UCLA play 4 more real games than 4 cupcakes. CBH may not agree. Money may not agree. But it would be great for competition.
And, as a comment, BYU would be the best to add from both major sports perspective. Scheduling could worked out.
And finally, who says SLC is not good for travel. Skiing on the Friday between games would work for either Utah school and Colorado
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Feb 11, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions
Texas??
Just saw via Jon Wilner’s column (blog?) in the San Jose Mercury News
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2010/02/11/pac-10-expansion-analyzing-the-options/
that ‘sources’ tell the Lawrence, KS paper that the Big 10 is talking to Texas.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/feb/11/big-ten-making-overtures-texas/?sports
If they are, our commish needs to be on the way to Austin ASAP if he’s not there already.
That's my dream addition.
Texas and Colorado add two big TV markets and are natural rivals.
As I pointed out before, however, I don’t see them willing to travel to the West Coast for almost every road game in the PAC 12 conference.
The best alternative IMO is Utah and someone else. Maybe UNLV given it would give us Las Vegas TV, too, and a nice place for a road trip. I thought BYU before, but the Sunday thing seems to be a real problem.
But, yeah, Colorado and Texas would be a no brainer for our side. Not likely there’s, unless Texas really is considering going to the Big 10.
Texas to the Big Tem would destroy the Big 12
maybe destroy is the wrong word – maybe not. Obviously we are speaking in very speculative/hypothetical terms but IF Texas makes a move and decides to the Big Ten over the Pac 10 – then essentially the entire Big 12 would be fair game. Why not look at Nebraska or Oklahoma? Not the biggest TV markets, but very big “brands” that have reaches outside their home states that can be levearged in a new Pac 10/12 TV deal..
by the was KSBruin – I really liked that FranktheTank read you linked below – Thx
Free Brandon Wood!
***Big Ten***
Need to use the preview button more often I guess.
Free Brandon Wood!
Colorado and Texas
Both would be great additions. I do not know much about Colorado admissions but given we have SC is that really a consideration? From what I know of Texas however would fit in with Pac-10.
I don't want Texas
Sorry. Do you want us to automatically become a second-tier football school in our own conference?
Negative Nancy!
"We should have a banner up there: the only team to make the tournament without a coach." -- Baron Davis, remembering his "coach" at UCLA
by inhowlandwetrust on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
A negative nancy would say "third-tier"
But I believe we can be first tier in the Pac 10 with the right coaching. But with Texas we’d get a powerhouse from an area we can’t really compete for (even though we can get our share of Texas guys). It would make winning the conference even tougher than it already is, and the idea here is to make it easier.
Rivalry Issue
I don’t think it is not practical to invite Colorado but not Colorado State, or Utah but not Utah State. In that case, why not Texas and Texas A&M. Texas is a great sport school and A&M is academically sound school.
There are plenty of non-conf rivalry games
Florida/Florida State
Georgia/Georgia Tech
Miami/Florida
Inviting a team to a conference merely because they are a ‘rival’ of another team you covet doesn’t make any sense.
I’m still on board thinking that Colorado and Utah make the most sense. You nail down the two major media markets in those two states (SLC and Denver), and the travel isn’t that unwieldy to either location.
Besides, we wouldn't be making Utah/Colorado road trips at once
If the conference divides, they will almost certainly be in the “north” region (I would think), making us not play them together.
Interesting reading
Here’s a well-reasoned commentary on the politics and chances for Big 10 expansion. The article and its following updates are often relevant to the Pac-10, and are interesting reading for those wondering about how the (what seems to me) pending major conference realignments coming in the next few years may play out, including how Texas figures into the discussion.
by KSBruin on Feb 11, 2010 1:32 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
^^^This is a great read^^^
Free Brandon Wood!
Ditto
Excellent link and the writer follows with a number of other well reasoned posts.
the TV disparity
is pretty astonishing. I realize we have bashed on the Pac-10 for TV contracts, but I am genuinely surprised about the analysis vis a vis Texas and the Big 12
by britishbruin on Feb 11, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno, not sure what his argument
had to do with Colorado and Utah wanting to join the Pac-10. The revenues would be better for both of them in the Pac-10.
Additionally, there were some fallacies in his follow-up argument in regards to Texas not wanting to join the Pac-10. While I agree there’s virtually no chance of that happening, he mentioned that west-coast ‘prime-time’ games start at 8PM.
Anyone who knows anything about the prime-time schedules for choice college football games on Saturdays knows there is no west-coast prime-time slot – we all start our games at 5PM so the East Coast has the pleasure of watching them as well, which means there would be no game-time issue with Texas joining the Pac-10. I could pick apart a couple of his additional points, and I generally agree that Texas going to the Pac-10 is ridiculous pretty much because of $$ reasons, there was some incorrect information in his analysis as well.
By and large though, it was a great read.
Ditto +1
Wow! What a great find, KS. What this tells me is that the conference with the nearest TV contract renewal date should have the most leverage. So, if expand we must, we shouldn’t settle for less than Texas and Colorado.
If the Pac 10 took Colorado and Colorado State ...
I bet the Big 12 would move on Utah and Utah State or BYU.
(Yeah, I put this same thing in another thread, but this thread is getting more traffic. Oh well … )
Ifs...
If Texas leaves for the Big 10, then the Big 12 begins to crumble. That’s when the Pac-10 grabs Colorado and…NEBRASKA.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Pac-10 Expansion
I also think Colorado And Colorado State are very good options for Expansion. But why not Texas and TCU? I know they are not rivals but it could become a rivalry; and i think these are the best options for the TV Market.

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