Hoops Roundup: Nothing Inspiring Of Note From Howland's Bruins
Bruins have another day to prepare for their second matchup against Southern Cal this season. From what we have read this week, there is no reason to believe the results are going to be any different. It already sounds like the Howland's Bruins are not playing to win as Tyler Honecutt is just talking about competing against the Trogans:
"When a team beats you, you kind of have something to prove, especially when you have an embarrassing loss like that," said freshman forward Tyler Honeycutt, who is averaging 10 points and 7.5 rebounds in his past four games. "We're definitely not trying to do that again.
"We want to show we can compete with USC."
Yeah, that should fire everyone up. Ben Howland for his part doesn't seem to have any credible answers for Bruins problems. He is trying to push the line about how going on the "road" (10 miles East) will be good for the Bruins:
"At home, you want to get going, you want to make a shot, you want to hear the roar of the crowd," UCLA Coach Ben Howland said. "Being on the road, it's us against the world. It forces you to play good and smart as a team.
The problem is that Bruins haven't played "smart" most of the season. They have played probably one good game the entire year and that came against Washington State at home. Otherwise, almost every game this year has been marked with stretches of listless, impatient, defenseless, ugly and unwatchable basketball in which players seemed to be going through the motions.
He tried to explain Bruins feeble performance against Cal by jointly blaming Roll and Ragovic. Yet as the LA Times pointed out, it was Roll who showed some effort against Cal, while Howland's BFF stunk up the joint yet again:
Howland blamed impatience, in part, for a 28-point swing against the Bears -- UCLA blew a 14-point first half lead. The Bruins shot 47% for the game, but made only nine of 21 shots in the second half.
"We took a number of ill-advised shots," Howland said. "As soon as it got tight [in the second half], Mike Roll took a bad shot. Nikola Dragovic took a bad shot. Those are the guys who are expected to be our leadership. They have to calm us down and make sure we get a good one."
Still, the poor-shooting defense is contradicted by the fact that UCLA leads in field goal percentage in conference games, shooting 49%. While Dragovic was a dreadful one for eight from the field against California, Roll made nine of 14 shots and was the only Bruin in double figures with 20 points.
Still, Howland insists a better effort is needed. "They are our two best shooters, and we want them to take shots," he said. "But we want them to be patient and take open shots."
Making matters for us, James Keefe is injured again and will most likely be out tomorrow night. So I guess we can look forward to another 30+ minutes of Ragovic tomorrow jacking up "ill-advised shots" while not bothering to play any kind of defense on the other end of court without worrying about being benched by his head coach. Rago doesn't have any answers:
"The whole season started off bad with the legal issues I got myself into," Dragovic said. "There was a lot to deal with, school, the next quarter. I couldn't get into the gym as much. That is all my fault. But I'm still trying to bounce back."
Yeah, that should really fire everyone up and get Bruins out to the Costco Center. Thankfully we just have 8 or 9 more games (I am guessing we are getting bounced either in first or second round of the Pac-10 tourney) of this mess to deal with.
From reading and listening to our coaches and players, I don't see the results being any different than what transpired last time when Malcolm Lee was left saying this:
One reason for UCLA's poor performance, at least according to Lee: USC's advance scouting.
"They really had our plays scouted really well," he said. "The second half they forced us to go more in motion; they were defending our set plays really well. It can be a little frustrating, because it feels like they know what we're doing. Man, we have to have a counter for that."
Doing the same thing over and over again will not bring different results tomorrow night. It's nice that some of our guys are looking forward to "competing" against Just$C in "basketball," but they should know that talks of "true moral victory" is going to mean as much as the empty words we have heard from this team the entire season.
GO BRUINS.
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man....
Not like the dude was in jail for 90 days…. get the f**k to the gym and practice. Basketball is supposed to be fun, natural stress relief. Had a fairly low opinion of Rago before the season started, but wow he actually managed to be worse than predicted. Average YMCA player would improve more with all those minutes.
Sick of Drag
His shot left school early, defense has never been a strong suit, and he looks like he doesn’t care. Well how about a new position for him-on the bench. Roll is our MVP unless Howland gives it to Drag. Enough is enough-let the freshmen play
Can't disagree with your assessment N
but the editors who let through non-sequiturs like
“Howland blamed impatience for a swing [in a stretch of this game]… still, the poor shooting defense is contradicted by the fact that UCLA leads in field goal percentage in conference games
need to find a new career.
Aside from the confusion of logic, it should also be clear to the UCLA beat writer that when you start two guys primarily for their ability to shoot the ball (particularly the 3pt shot), the team needs to up their shooting percentage all they can to overcome the team’s other shortcomings (defense, FT%). Impatient shots is how we often manage to give up 6,8,10 point runs – we don’t have enough talented defenders to make defensive stands every possession, so we need to work for good shots every time we have the ball. Seniors need to get that. Taking the right shots and missing them is excusable; taking bad shots early in the shot clock is not. Reeves Nelson was also guilty of impatient shooting, attempting to score when double-teamed instead of passing it out, but he will hopefully start to get that if teams continue to double him.
"They are our two best shooters ..." ? Sorry CBH but Roll and Drago are not our best shooters --
Our best shooter is RN .625 and second is MAH .576. RN is so clearly our best scoring hope that it bothers me that we don’t work more on an inside out game or a slash and dump game.
Lately, people have been doubling him and making it tougher for him to get off his shot — yet I’d prefer the ball in his hands to any others.
Just how good are CBH’s “best shooters”. Drago is .379. The only person on the team lower is MM who has taken but 19 shots, less than ND jacks up in a single game.
MR is at .472, worse than JA, BL and JK, but ahead of ML, and TH.
MR is our best 3 shooter at .445, followed by JA at .381, and MAH at .353. Our other “best shooter”, ND? He’s at .305.
MR brings a lot more to the court than scoring. But, ND? His role is justified by his “scoring” but the numbers prove he’s not worthy of the time. I have never been a Drago hater. But, the season numbers prove he doesn’t deserve the minutes he’s getting — and I can’t believe CBH views him a one of our two best shooters.
sjh
Sorry 66 but RN is not our best "shooter"
RN has our highest FG% because he takes nearly all his shots just a few feet from the basket. By your argument, Andrew Bynum is the best shooter on the Lakers.
If you let Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum take a range of shots from around the court, I’m guessing that the FG% for Kobe Bryant would be higher than for Andrew Bynum. Thus making Kobe Bryant a better “shooter” than Andrew Bynum.
Mike Roll seems fairly obviously our best “shooter”.
I absolutely agree with you that we should work to find more shots for our high percentage shooters inside rather than have MR and ND launching low percentage contested shots.
by britishbruin on Feb 13, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
This Isn't Olympic Ski Jumping
There are no style points here.
RN is more likely to get the ball in the basket than MR. Much more likely.
Without style points, the team that puts the ball in the basket most often is declared the winner. Winning ugly is still winning.
RN’s game might not be pretty — and people might like seeing pretty jump shots, but until they count more than ugly baskets, I’m still with RN.
I love CBH and have not deviated in my total support for him. But, if he is justifying ND’s playing time by saying he is one of our two best shooters, I call BS.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 13, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Much as I dislike Doug Gottlieb
I enjoyed a piece he did on TV yesterday showing the sets Kentucky runs with its shooters in order to get Cousins isolated one-on-one on the low post.
You can try to feed it to RN all you like, but if other people (the supposed-to-be-good “shooters” on the team) are not knocking down shots, he is going to get double teamed all the time and not be able to score any points at all. At the point that any player’s shooting is so bad that they do not demand a defender cover them honestly, they are not useful – which is why JK is not suited to being a 4 in our defense, and why JA and ML are becoming less useful to the offense now that people are hanging off them, taking away the penetration and daring them to shoot. It is why MAH is potentially useful – he isn’t big or athletic enough to get a good shot off against a quality defensive player, but you can’t leave him completely open or he will punish you.
Style points have nothing to do with anything. But there is a difference between shooters (good ones like MR, and less good ones…) and people scoring in the low post, and to ignore the interdependence of the two in a balanced team is a mistake.
by britishbruin on Feb 13, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha
people should not get so personal here….bruins nation is for the bruins by the bruins and if someone has an opinion we need to respect it….dont take it personal….but we need some positive to this….if we are constantly pointing out the negative on something what the hell do we have to look forward to? its been a tough season everyone knows that and week after week we see the same crap….but lets ake a few points out each day to look at that might help us…if we dont have faith going into SC….we are conceding the victory….because if we dont…does the team???? we are a family of blue….not just second cousins who hate each other….lets play nice no?
It wasn't us conceding tomorrow's game
It was our ‘star’ player talking about just competing with them and hanging with them. If you want something to be positive about wrt to our hoops team, then write it up. Again, don’t whine about what we are writing.
As for people participating in this site they just have to do it within the rules. If they can’t, then tough. No one is entitled to post here just the way they want. Thanks.

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