Howland and Decision-Making Bias
Bumped. glass brings up an interesting point. GO BRUINS. -N
I have been thinking a lot about the discussions and controversy about Howland and his inexplicable decision-making regarding playing time this year. I don't understand it, it is very frustrating, and to be honest I have switched from watching the games to reading about them because it is too painful to watch Ragovic not play defense and freshmen throw tantrums and have everyone talk about how the team that was reputed to have the #1 class coming in two years ago DOES NOT HAVE THE ATHLETIC ABILITY TO COMPETE AS A MID-TIER TEAM in the PAC-10 and can't even beat state schools. It is sickening.
I ran across this the other day and thought it might be helpful and provide some insight. It is academic research on the NBA draft, and basically talks about how once the NBA basketball organizations make decisions on draft players, and those decisions stop playing out well (ie, the player that was drafted ends up being a flop), they continue to play the person and just keep "sinking costs" into the draft. Posted the summary and some observations based on it after the flip.
Here is the summary:
Sunk costs in the NBA: why draft order affects playing time and survival in professional basketball- Staw & Hoang, 1995
This study represents one of the first quantitative field tests of the sunk-cost effect. We tested whether the amount teams spent for players in the National Basketball Association (NBA) influenced how much playing time players got and how long they stayed with NBA franchises. Sunk costs were operationalized by the order in which players were selected in the college draft. Draft order was then used to predict playing time, being traded, and survival in the NBA. Although one might logically expect that teams play and keep their most productive players, we found significant sunk-cost effects on each of these important personnel decisions. Results showed that teams granted more playing time to their most highly drafted players and retained them longer, even after controlling for players' on-court performance, injuries, trade status, and position played. These results are discussed in terms of their implications for both sunk-cost research and the broader literature on managerial decision making.
So my take is that Howland is falling prey to a decision-making bias that is not really abnormal and it is probably not just Howland but the whole UCLA staff. I am not justifying this decision-making in any way shape or form. It is his responsibility to be teachable and not fall into this trap. But think about it: He drafted guys like Anderson and Ragovic, and I believe has a natural psychological bias to not see what is very clear for the rest of us. And past success only exacerbates these decision-making biases.
What is the solution to this type of personal and organizational bias? There are a lot of different ideas out there, but I would propose one simple strategy: make sure that a coach is a devil's advocate, someone who can be contrary and challenge the coach on what he thinks. Do we have that? It doesn't look like it on a multitude of fronts.
Go Bruins.
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It's an interesting analogy.
In the NBA, you can see why an owner who is paying a guy millions would want to get something out of his investment. Even if that guy is not producing, he is going to want to get some minutes out of that guy.
If your analogy is correct in that CBH is playing guy in a kind of ‘shove a round peg into a square whole’ mentality, then it is another indicator where his stubbornness is costing the program.
I also hope he can step back and see what’s going on.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
The strategy you hint at
Supports the assertion we need new blood in the assistant ranks. Someone who will not only help shape recruiting but also serve more than just a mere “yes man” in Howland’s staff.
Agree
Coach credits the idea for the full court zone press to an assistant, Jerry Norman, who actually suggested it a year earlier than Coach implemented it. Norman was not a “yes man” and kept pestering Coach. The rest, as they say, is history.
Who recruited the guys who had talent and developed it? Let’s get that guy back, or figure out how he managed to see what he saw in players.
Let's not forget...
…that recruiting is a two-way street. Even if CBH really want someone who fits his idea of a player, they may not want to come to Westwood. So maybe CBH has been just taking the best of what he can get in getting the players the team has right now. Which does not bode well for the future of course, i.e., CBH’s future. And to fix this, it may be that we need a big-time recruiter that can convince the right players to come.
Let's Remember That
Some of the great players in the last two years are kids we would not want in Westwood or who could not get in.
Yes, there were mistakes made in evaluating talent — but they were made by everyone, not just CBH and his staff.
We did not proclaim our soph class the best in the nation — EVERYONE did. And, there were no naysayers here warning they were fools gold.
I don’t disagree that we need to reevaluate our recruiting strategy — but, as I wrote months ago, we got seduced by the pretty girl we never thought we could date and it turned out we had nothing in common with her.
I think everyone has learned a lesson and I’m sure CBH is focusing on better talent evaluation in recruiting.
sjh
Come to think of it, 2ndGenBruin
That " big time recruiter " you mentioned might just be Lavin, much as we despised him. Look at the players he brought in all those years.
I must say that I chuckled at this response. Short, appropriate, and to the point.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
More assertive assts AND Press!
Wish someone from the press would just get up and ask “With Nicola struggling so much, why did Brendan Lane have to sit when it seemed he was giving you good minutes and he had just nailed a beautiful 3 pt shot. Couldn’t have been tired – he was hardly in there very long.”
by mplsbruin on Feb 23, 2010 7:25 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Did the writer mean...
exacerbates?
In this sentence: “And past success only exasperates these decision-making biases.”
Or, am totally misreading his/her point?
Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...
you're right :)
you’d think I was a trojan with an uneducated mistake like that…
Not convinced by the study.
From reading the study, I am not very convinced by the results and interpretation. I actually find it pretty disingenuous statistically.
From a statistical standpoint, my main gripe is that they acknowledge that high draft picks might go to worse teams, and then say that they “control” for this by including a variable for whether or not the are going to a team with a winning record.
An oversimplistic explanation of the problem with this is:
dividing teams into “winning record” teams and “losing record” teams does not accurately describe the difference in quality, and does not remove the potential statistical bias: the team with a losing record and the #1 draft pick is likely to be significantly worse than the team with a losing record and the #15 draft pick; the team with a winning record and the #16 draft pick is likely to be significantly worse than the team with the #30 draft pick.
A top-5 pick is likely to log major minutes immediately for a team at the bottom of the heap (unless you are drafted by the Clippers… and then you are expected to get injured). A #15 pick going to a solid team is likely to be a bench player. A #16 pick going to a solid team is still likely to get some time off the bench; the #30 pick going to the Lakers may be farmed out the the NBADL for a year.
The authors could have controlled much more precisely for how good a team is by controlling for the number of wins. This would make it hard to find an effect of draft order on results, because it is so correlated with the number of wins, but there is some ‘random’ variation introduced by the lottery (where an average team can end up with a top-3 pick) and by trades involving draft picks (where a bad team might end up with an additional low 1st round draft pick) that could be used to identify the effect. The authors either tried this method, found no significant results and didn’t tell the reader (a dishonest but common practice) or didn’t try it (lazy) or didn’t think of it (unimaginative).
not to mention the fact
that even if there were an effect, it might be sensibly explained by the fact that if two players are deemed to have the same productivity, but one has more ‘potential’, you are more likely to give time to the player with more potential – and, if draft order relates to potential in some way, this means that high draft picks are likely to get more time early in their career relative to players with equal productivity but a lower perceived ceiling on their ability.
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
interesting...
you are right that there probably should be a different technique used to account for the endogeneity issue related to the possibility of that (or another) omitted variable…there has been a lot of methods progress in this literature stream since 1995 when this was written
In looking at the data you may be right about this, because although they find statistical significance for the draft effect it is very small relative to scoring, and an omitted variable could easily account for that
What was more interesting to me about the study was that in looking at the determinants of playing time scoring was way more significant than their operationalizations of toughness or quickness…
right
anecdotally… the last time I remember a definitively solid team having a high draft pick, the Pistons drafted Darko and didn’t play him for 2 years except in garbage time… meantime, LeBron, Carmelo, Bosh and D-Wade were logging major minutes on bad teams…
but, it’s possible that Darko is an outlier… :-)
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
on the analogy
I’m not sure that this follows from the academic argument about sunk costs / escalation effect
He drafted guys like Anderson and Ragovic, and I believe has a natural psychological bias to not see what is very clear for the rest of us.
I think that the argument from the literature would not be that he cannot see the underperformance of the players, but that he wants to keep pouring time into them in the hope that they end up justifying the previous sunk cost investments by eventually turning out to be good. If you give up on the players now, the previous investment is ‘lost’, but if the players eventually pull it together, the previous investment may appear to have been justified. Unfortunately, this also means that the longer you stick with something that isn’t working, the more ‘sunk cost’ you feel the need to justify and the harder it is to cut your losses and move in a different direction.
The analogy to the NBA isn’t great, given that we don’t have draft picks and money to invest in a player, and all players on the college roster are ‘paid’ the same. However, a parallel argument could be made to suggest that a coach is more likely to give playing time to a senior in whom 4 years of coaching has already been invested than to a replaceable freshman.
your last point
is what I was suggesting…
on the positive side
this hopefully means CBH hasn’t become too attached to Moser, Lane, Bobo (and Stover) and can look at competition for places next year with a relatively unbiased view…
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
Change in both coach and assistants
A change in personal bias would require a shift in the way CBH thinks and the way his assistants can challenge his thinking. If the current assistants are a bunch of “yes men” who will tell CBH anything he wants to hear, then the culture will pretty much remain the same. CBH needs to surround himself with assitants that both he and the college basketball world respect. People who can honestly tell him no from time to time, and whom he will listen.
The problem, however, doesn’t solely lie with the assistants. CBH himself must be flexible enough to change. And that has been the rub for some time now. He hasn’t demonstrated a willingness to do that easily. I personally think that is what makes a coach great. That is, the ability to objectively look at your team situation, admit your plan hasn’t been working, and make changes that suit the strengths of your current players.
I live in the Bay Area and follow the De La Salle football team pretty closely. Early this season, DLS had some huge problems running their offense. Coach Lad would say it was the worst offensive performances he had ever seen at the school. After a few games of painfully watching his team struggle, he did something many thought was unthinkable. He benched his veteran senior QB in favor of an untested sophomore. That sophomore went undefeated in every game he started, including the state bowl game. Benching a senior QB sent a message to his team. If you aren’t playing well, you won’t play. Period.
I waited for CBH to take that kind of leadership and risk. It just didn’t happen this year, and we all suffered by watching Rago jack up brick after brick and play matador D. What we need is not just a personnel change, but a personal change as well.
+1
While I applaud CBH’s willingness to go to a zone this year, it wasn’t done until it was beyond clear we didn’t have the personnel to play man-to-man. I am glad he is giving more time to young players like RN and TH, but has waited too long to get time to BL, MM, and JMM when it has been clear that JK, JA, and of course ND have been detrimental to the team’s long term success. I never thought that CBH would make the changes he has. But I do wish he were, and think he needs to be, more open and proactive than he is.
Making changes when you are forced to is better than not changing at all. The best leaders, however, are the ones who can foresee the problems, and make changes that anticipate and obviate the problems.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
CBH assistants and moving to the zone
Back in a BN article here , there was a little tidbit quoted from a Daily News Q&A, John Gold asking the tough questions:
DN: Was there any internal conflict about playing zone?
BH: No, but we should have done it sooner.
Assuming CBH is telling the truth, that tells you a lot about the advice he is getting from his assistants. The question is often asked “how can CBH not see this when x,y,z posting on BN have been calling for this for weeks?”. According to the above, the question should be extended to assistants – and the apparent lack of differing opinions is a worry.
My Question 2u is: Does CBH/His Assistants Read this Blog?
Is it possible that we collectively and our critiquing comments are like one hand clapping? It appears to me CBH & Staff remain pretty much in a vacuum. Am I wrong?
'CaptainJack65'
Jack Metcalf
They live in 2010
Pretty sure they are being briefed about conversations/discussions going on regarding the team. It would be negligent on staff’s part not to be aware of it.
In that case
PLEASE GIVE RAGO NO MORE THAN 20 MIN EACH GAME
AND BENCH HIM AFTER HIS FIRST BAD SHOT OR MATADOR DEFENSE
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Hi captain
That’s why I suggested we emailed Howland. I won’t have any problem doing so. He and his coaching staff are California public employees. Their income derives from our tax $$$$, not anybody’s private bank account. he hasto listen to us one way or the other.
um
when you say
He and his coaching staff are California public employees. Their income derives from our tax $$$$, not anybody’s private bank account
do you actually know how much exactly of the UCLA athletic budget comes from your tax $$$$?
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Nestor, would you really be able to find out
Howland’s email address at his Morgan Center address ?
Without having looked
I’d say the chances are just about nil unless someone has inside information. At nearly all universities and most sizable companies, contact information for a person in a high-level job is given as the email/phone of that person’s admin assistant. If I had any money, I’d bet that would be the case for our coaches, AD, and chancellor.
Having looked previously, I know Kansas football shows (surprisingly) direct email for their OC and DC, but no direct contact info for the head coach.
Yep
Even if I had it, wouldn’t share it publicly here on BN. That said people should tweet directly to him since he does have a twitter account. That way he can see the feedback in addition to the conversations going on here and other Bruin communities.
Well, I found that out last time I emailed Carnesale
But we need to let them know our concerns. Perhaps we will post a sign outside the Howlands’ university subsidized residence at Hancock Park saying – " Coach, read our comments at Bruinsnation.com "
Okay, britishbruins
Their base salaries, and by the same token, University of California systems’ primary funding source come from our tax $$$$ collectively. Of course they have their outside income from various endorsements, speaking or apearance fees. etc.
So when we are taxpayers, theoretically we all have a say in it. But then it’s one thing to say all we want, and if we are not big time alumni contributors in the category of David Geffen & others, for example, Dan Guererro, Swainson the vice chancellor won’t bat an eyelash. Strill, we do have a right to be heard.
Towards the end of the Lavin “malaise”, someone posted Carnesale, the former chancellor’s email for us to write to.
I did. His secretary responded courteously, saying the athletics department would look into our concerns. Of course we all knew by then the new AD Dan Guerrero had something up his sleeve already, pending the conclusion of the season.
Now I don’t mean we would all be flooding the chancellor’s office or elsewhere with calls for Howland’s dismissal. It’s just that he needs to hear our input, so precisely analysed, objective without any personal bias nor animosities here at BN. Some zingers here and there may be, but we are humans and we are frustrated.
do you have any idea what you are talking about re finances?
depending on how you measure it, 16% of the UCLA budget is currently made up from state funding.
Do you know how much the basketball coaches are subsidized by state dollars, compared with being self-funded by revenues from the basketball program? (potentially expanded to – how much are the football and basketball coaches subsidized by state dollars, compared with being self-funded by revemues from those programs and larger athletic department sponsorship deals and merchandise sales?) Just a question to ponder while discussing your entitlement as a California tax payer rather than just as a frustrated fan.
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
For all intents and purposes
UCLA is a private school bound by limitations imposed on a state school. It’s really awesome.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
still pretty cheap
for a private school…
by britishbruin on Feb 24, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
but for how long? How many classes are going to get cut, how many 500 student lectures will it take, before they raise the fees again?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
You're a little late, Tas
I had lots of 500 student lectures, and I’m sure that was long before your parents met. Generally, it was the popular professors.
Not anymore
Fewer classes, bigger classes.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Yes I do
these are income sports. You’ re right. The revenues generated directly subsidized, or paid for the programs’ expenditures. Sometimes even the entire athletic department. Ohio States’ is a good example. It’s the largest, most profitable one in the country, and operates like a self supporting private corporation even within the university itself.
Coaches’ university salaries cannot even compare with their other fringe benefits within the whole salary package. That I know too. But still, our opinions cannot go unheeded even though they can easily write us because tax payers, in this current economic climate, do not count much anyway unless you are Warren Buffet or heirs to the Wal Mart empire.
honestly
I totally agree with where you are coming from as a fan. Just a pet peeve of my mine when people make comments about state school athletics and public taxes – particularly given how messed up the California budget situation is due to politicians on both sides and budget-relevant Propositions.
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Nice theory, but not applicable here
In the pros, money is at stake, as well as validation of someone being a top draft choice.
All you have to do is look at the QBs who have been selected over the last 12 years. Top draft choices get more time to prove that they suck. In 1999, for instance, Couch, Akili Smith and McNown were taken in the first round. All sucked. Couch was selected first, and he got 5 seasons to prove he was terrible, getting 59 starts. never improving. Akili Smith was selected 3rd and lasted 4 seasons, 17 starts (going 3-14) with a QB rating of 52. McNown was selected 12th and lasted into a 2nd season (14 starts), never to play again, despite having better numbers than Smith. This is the way it works in all sports. Get drafted high, you get more chances. They’re paying you more money, they want to see a return on the investment. They also don’t want to be the team that gave up on a player only to see him blossom elsewhere.
In college, money is not an issue. UCLA is not making a bigger investment in Dragovic than it is making in any of its other scholarship players. Nor is Dragovic a “high draft pick” in this analogy. Dragovic was only lightly recruited (as many foreigners are). Lane was a 4 * recruit. In fact, the only 3* recruit of the 5 freshmen is Nelson, who is 2nd in minutes among freshmen in Pac-10 play. One of the two 5* recruits in last year’s class is the person who has received the least amount of playing time among those 5 who comprise the most disappointing recruiting class in UCLA history. In fact, he’s received far less time in the aggregate than two players who are no longer with the team (Holiday and Gordon), including one who was a lower rated recruit and plays (or played) the same position (Gordon).
Looking at the evidence, Howland does not favor more highly touted recruits. Nor does he favor less touted recruits. I don’t think he favors Anderson. After all, he yanked him from the starting lineup when there was no clearly superior alternative (and Abdul Hamid has as many or more flaws than Anderson, with less potential). Putting aside Dragovic, I see no evidence that he does anything other than playing the guys who he thinks help the team win now. That’s it. If not for that rule, he would have kept Keefe in the starting lineup last year even after it was painfully obvious that he was no threat to score. He would not have moved Lee to the 1 this year with Anderson being a true point guard.
As to Dragovic, isn’t it also possible that he is a better alternative right now at the 4 than Brendan Lane (who is the only other 4 on our roster)?
While I think that Brendan is more talented than Dragovic and will be better than Dragovic when their careers are over, I do not think that fans can honestly say that playing Lane 30 minutes and Dragovic 10 will give us a better chance of winning Thursday’s game than playing Dragovic 30 minutes and Lane 10 minutes does.
Right now, Dragovic is the better player. He has more experience. He makes fewer mistakes with the ball. On a team with few shooters, he knows how to get his shot off. He knows where to go on defense. The problem with Dragovic is that his effort, to all of us, appears lacking. My personal opinion is that Howland thinks he can motivate Drago to play hard, and when he does, he is our best option at the 4. Moreover, when not playing at 100%, Dragovic’s lack of effort hurts the team probably on a similar level to how Lane’s lesser current ability and greater number of mistakes hurt the team.
Now, this does not make me a Howland apologist for the disaster we see on the court every week. It is Coach Howland’s fault, and he must be held accountable. This also doesn’t mean I like Dragovic. I do not. I never have. I must have counted 20 baskets scored by Stanford that were in his area (and about 5 could have been avoided with 100% effort).
No, I think that Howland plays Dragovic because he has to try the best he can to win. He thinks Dragovic gives us the best chance to win. And Dragovic, playing at 100% of his capability does give us the best chance to win. He can’t say we’re not going to try the rest of this year but instead wait til next year. That wouldn’t be fair to the seniors. So, while I would like to see Lane play more, I do not agree that his not playing has anything to do with Howland having decision-making bias. Instead, it’s an accurate belief that Dragovic is better right now, an inaccurate belief that he can motivate Drago to play to his ability, and a possibly accurate belief that even when Dragovic doesn’t play to the best of his ability, he still is no worse than Lane.
Now, can he and should he bench Drago when he loafs on defense? Absolutely. Should he hold him accountable for failing to get rebounds and for jacking up 3s early in the shot clock? Yes again.
But I am not buying that Howland is playing Dragovic because he’s a top recruit with too much invested in him.
well
I said above
The analogy to the NBA isn’t great, given that we don’t have draft picks and money to invest in a player, and all players on the college roster are ‘paid’ the same. However, a parallel argument could be made to suggest that a coach is more likely to give playing time to a senior in whom 4 years of coaching has already been invested than to a replaceable freshman.
and the original poster, glassbruin, said
your last point
is what I was suggesting…
agreeing with my clarification of his original post. Whether or not Dragovic is a 1 star recruit or a 5 star recruit is irrelevant to the argument the original poster was making.
by britishbruin on Feb 23, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree, but
Your examples of Nelson playing over Lane and Gordon playing over Morgan are faulty. Nelson was much more heavily recruited than Lane and was one of Howland’s primary targets in the class. He was also actually rated higher until he got injured his last year of high school and didn’t play much. Gordon was also a higher priority recruit than Morgan, even though Morgan was rated higher (and IIRC that wasn’t always the case either).
by SuperBruinMan on Feb 23, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree
Gordon was signed earlier, but that didn’t make him the higher priority recruit. Morgan was more highly regarded, but he signed with LSU early, making Gordon the higher priority for the school.
Nelson was a primary and early target but by his senior year, people were wondering if he was a Pac-10 level player.
Difference in philosophy
I don’t think it is sunk costs either. I think ND was picked up to be a zone buster and role player, and CBH was faced with a dearth of talent so he played the experienced player. He certainly didn’t have any trouble playing JH over JK once JH was back from injury. JK was more highly touted and sought after by CBH than ND, but he couldn’t perform and lost PT. If BL or Bobo showed that they could play at a high level like TH or RN, ND would have been bumped or had his minutes vastly reduced. I think CBH just thought ND was the better player for each game. I’d say that that the vast majority of those on BN think that while ND might have been marginally better for a particular game especially earlier in the season,that 1) ND should be benched for not playing hard on defense and for jacking up bad shots as an object lesson to him and the team; 2) since ND is not playing all that well anyway, BL with more playing time might have met or exceeded ND’s benefit to the team by the end of this season, and 3) since this dreadful team was hopeless from the beginning, CHB should have realized that and started the developing the younger players at the expense to ND’s playing time. Those opinions are certainly not unreasonable. My opinion, not shared by many, is that the team was horrible in the preseason, but made great strides during the first half of the Pac10 season and with TH making contributions, had a chance to make a run for the title in a weak conference. CBH expected that ND would be a major offensive contributor, but most here think that was poor judgment based on past performance. My thought was that the team couldn’t win without him having a hot hand. I expected the team to be inconsistent, because I expected ND to be inconsistent. That turned out to be wrong in the second half of the season, as ND’s offensive production was poor in some of the wins. Unfortunately, while the team has improved, they are horribly inconsistent, can’t deal with any team that can apply pressure, and lose their confidence really easily. With the injuries, the issue is now academic as all able bodies will play, perhaps with the exception of MM.
by 75NatChamps on Feb 24, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions

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