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Hoops Game Day Roundup: Hooping For Yesterday Football's Results Against Stanford Inside Pauley

I will be honest. I am just having a hard time thinking about college basketball right now. Bruins (10-11, 5-4) have a big game tonight at Pauley when they open up the second half of the Pac-10 season against Stanford Cardinal (10-11, 4-5). The only things I have thought about when it comes to UCLA-Stanford last few days were centered around Jordan Zumwalt and where UCLA and Stanford would wind up in the final recruiting rankings. Well, hopefully yesterday was a good omen for tonight.

I really hope the Bruins are zeroed in on this game unlike the majority of us who  have been swept up in the recruiting fever thanks to Rick Neuehisel. This is a very important game and a must win if the Bruins want to keep hopes alive for getting better through rest of the season and making an improbable run into the Big Dance (well I personally don't think there is much of chance with this starting rotation but they are alive at least on paper).

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For the Cards they are coming off an awful road trip in Arizona where they just got plastered by Arizona State. Those guys are 0-8 on the road which scares me because it makes it appear as if they are due. Of course our last game against them was a total disaster when Jeremy Green torched our backcourt and we simply looked like Ben Ball Clowns turning the ball over the court.  Well according to the Daily News, the Bruins think they are more "comfortable" playing zone this time and also they are going to more "controlled":

We're actually playing (zone) now," said Roll, who leads the Bruins at 13 points per game. "Nobody has ever played zone here in a long time; it was just something we did in practice to prepare for a game. Now that we're playing it all the time, we're learning it, we're talking more, we're getting more comfortable as a team."

Against the Cardinal, UCLA was anything but comfortable.

The Bruins committed a season-high 23 turnovers, and caved down the stretch, as a 51-50 Stanford lead ballooned into the 11-point final margin.

After another particularly sloppy effort - UCLA had 20 turnovers in a 62-52 loss to Oregon State on Saturday - the Bruins still believe they can turn it around in time for the Cardinal.

They'll need to if they want to compete.

"Moreso than anything, it's just understanding that we have to play smart and intelligent," UCLA head coach Ben Howland said. "We had some really bad turnovers in that first Stanford game. We had the ball down one and Mike Roll threw it away, really an uncharacteristic turnover. Really, we were dribbling too much."

Other Bruins are focused on the defensive side - particularly the comfort they feel in the zone defense.

"I think we're going to play a lot different this game," freshman forward Reeves Nelson said. "We're going to be a lot more controlled and play smarter. It's a totally different team, almost a 180-degree change. We've got a lot more used to playing zone and being able to key in on shooters."

It's kind of funny Nelson talking about being in control. LOL I don't mean that to be too critical because he is one of my favorite players in this team. I found it ironic to hear him talk about playing in control because he is the one that often seems to be supplying all the emotion and energy of this team. I think it's a sign of growing maturity on his part and his continued development into being one of the unquestioned leaders heading into next season. The Times has a pretty good profile on Nelson who has been nicknamed  "the Rage" by his team-mates:

There are the seven tattoos, all etched into his skin since he arrived in Westwood, each with a special meaning. There is that scowl, part of that please-try-and-stop-me will that drives him. There is unshakable confidence that has allowed him to succeed as a freshman this season.

That package can be summed up simply: "He's a beast for us," senior guard Michael Roll said.

Nelson knows his reputation is established. Teammates have dubbed him "Rage," while Bruins fans cheer when he throws his 6-foot-8, 230-pound body around the court.

Nelson is averaging 15 points and eight rebounds off the bench in the last four games heading into Thursday's game against Stanford at Pauley Pavilion. The Cardinal is 10-11 overall, 4-5 in Pacific 10 Conference. UCLA is 10-11, 5-4.

Nelson has given the Bruins an inside presence they lacked earlier this season, especially after center Drew Gordon left the team in December.

"It doesn't matter if guy is his size, 6-10. When he gets the ball, he's going to do good things," point guard Malcolm Lee said.

We are going to need every bit of that "controlled" rage tonight to get a win against what will be another desperate Pac-10 team trying to do whatever it can to keep their own hopes alive in this pathetic league.

They key again for the Bruins will be the factors we have been outlining all season long: patience on offense (so that we are not counting on long 3 bombs from you know who), being smart with the ball, and all out 40 minutes of hustle and energy on defense (whether we are playing zone or man). Bruins better be focused and ready to come out with energy this game because they really need to redeem themselves for that disgraceful performance at Maples few weeks ago.

Hopefully the incredible energy the football program injected into the entire athletic department yesterday rubs off on the basketball team inside Pauley today. Tipoff is scheduled for 7:30 pm PST. We will see you half hour before tipoff.

GO BRUINS.

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RN Gets Stuffed An Awful Lot

I’ve never seen a guy have his shot blocked as often as RN. I suppose its unavoidable, given his bull like game, against taller players in the post. Hard to argue with a .600 shooting percentage. Overall, he’s definitely a bright spot. Turnovers are the key to this team. ML has a 1.35 assist to turnover ratio. JA has a 1.46 ratio. Really poor for the point guard position.

by 75NatChamps on Feb 4, 2010 6:53 AM PST reply actions  

Food for thought

We could come out of this weekend in first place in the Pac-10. Doesn’t that blow your mind? I don’t want to get all crazy with expectation, but it is possible. Can you say turning point for this team? I think this truly is the make or break weekend for this team.

Louisville, KY for UCLA class of '87

by kingslook on Feb 4, 2010 7:05 AM PST reply actions  

Tonight's game

UCLA has to do three things if it expects to beat any opponent. It has been a consistent theme in all their victories: Limit turnovers, Rebound and Make 50% of FG attempts. Pretty simple formula. Defensively the team has come around. The past four games they’ve done an outstanding job of limiting dribble penetration.

I’ve been away from BN and Los Angeles for three weeks, it’s great to be back. Pumped up by yesterday’s football recruiting haul. Looking forward to getting over .500 and atop first place in the Pac-10 with a sweep over the Bay Area schools.

With Bobo and JA healthy again, the added depth will allow the zone to stay active and, likely, create some easy offense off turnovers. I really like the way TH is coming on. He still has a lot more in his bag offensively. Lee needs to figure out how to score on the road, at Pauley he’s been very consistent. Roll and Nelson have been great. I like JK starting, albeit, mainly ceremonial, he’s a senior and does set the tone defensively.

Side note: Saw a large chunk of the game the other night involving future Bruin Josh Smith and top target Terrance Jones. Smith will contribute next year and give us a presence in the paint on both ends – will allow RN to play his natural position of power forward and show some of his face up game (yes, he has one). Jones would make UCLA a national contender, he’s absolutely ridiculously athletic and has a refined all-around game. Smith needs to lose some weight. I understand he’s playing with a torn patellar tendon, that might explain his lack of explosion around the rim. Jones is a one and done talent, Smith looks like more of a project and three year player.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

Not sure Bobo is ready yet 11

Haven’t seen anything on it unless I missed it.

by Nestor on Feb 4, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Bobo returned to practice Tuesday

According to the LA Times he’s okay and might play a few minutes against the Cardinal.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Aaah .. gotcha

Didn’t read any basketball news yesterday. :-)

by Nestor on Feb 4, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I strongly doubt

that we get Jones. Just doesn’t seem like a UCLA type player. He’s all Kentucky sleazipari.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 4, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd agree with you

He already has an eye on the NBA and is looking for the program that offers him the exposure and starting job right away. I think it comes down to UW or Kentucky.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

If he goes to UW

then I’m going to have to call him unflattering names. It would be a dumb move in my opinion.

Kentucky is stacked but it looks as though he would still break into the starting lineup quickly. UW is flailing and I don’t think it provides the exposure he seeks. I don’t know what the rosters look like, but he’d sure get lots of PT at UCLA…as long as he plays D…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 4, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

True, true

But I don’t know where he’d get the minutes he’s looking for with all the wings UCLA has on the team now and coming in next year. Honeycutt is going nowhere, Moser is eventually going to make an impression, Lamb and Lee are really high level guards. I guess Jones could play at the 3 and Honeycutt at the 2, but that would force Lee to continue playing PG and that is something UCLA should avoid next year.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

No way Lee is still playing PG next year. Between Lamb, the JC transfer whose name I forget, and JA (fingers crossed), there should be enough PGs.

Could Jones play the 4? Though I would expect Nelson to get that spot…if Smith or Bobo can play the 5…

Anyway, not worth too much discussion, I don’t see him coming here.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 4, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

JC transfer is also named Jones

as in Lazeric ;-)

"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09

by Blue Me on Feb 4, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Keys to the game

Cant disagree with your 3 11 Banners but I would add 2.

Inside Out offense: we dont win when we bomb from the outside as N keeps saying. We win when we go inside and for the high percentage shots. Even our 3 point shooting is better when we go inside first. Talking to the team generally and to N’s least favorite player specifically.

Intensity: this team can not win without focus and energy. That intensity will drive the rebounding that 11 is looking for and a strong defense.

So I guess my 2 will lead to 11’s 3.

A real change around free throws would be great but is probably asking too much this year.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Feb 4, 2010 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

Agree

The three keys are all tied to offensive effeciency, ball movement and getting open shots. When the Bruins just pass the ball around the perimeter and shoot threes all game they aren’t putting themselves in a position to win. I watched a few of the games while I was on the road, ND has been playing pretty well. The team needs him and Roll to shoot the three. He’s just streaky.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Early shot selection may be telling

ND has been playing better. He does his best when he has the message to be aggressive inside.

I would love to see the first offensive plays work it inside to ND. Whether he shots or passes I dont care. Get him into the mindset of being aggressive inside. I believe his shots from the outside will fall later.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Feb 4, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

hope to see Reeves making good on that 'control' aspect

from what I’ve seen in recent weeks, opponents are starting to scout him better and use his energy and enthusiasm against him a bit. He is picking up some cheap fouls on both ends by playing out of control.

He fouled out vs Stanford in 23 minutes of play last time up. Over the last 6 games he is averaging 3.66 fouls per game in a shade over 26 minutes per game.

by britishbruin on Feb 4, 2010 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

over the 6 games prior to that (starting with Notre Dame), he was averaging just under 2 fouls per game in 29.66 mins per.

by britishbruin on Feb 4, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

RN

He’s adjusted his game. He’s still a bull on the glass, but defensively he’s become a really nice help defender. On the offensive end he makes nice cuts off the ball and MR, TH and, when he’s been able to play, JA look for him. RN is at his best when he’s able to make a move and finish with either hand. His lack of lift doesn’t allow him to be as effective finishing in traffic. All that said he’s been a revelation and should be mentioned more in frosh of the year arguments in conference.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

meh

He goes after the ball well on the glass, but doesn’t do a good job of boxing out at all; part of the reason that we are not doing a great job limiting opponents offensive boards.

And I would rather he focus on being a good defender of the area/man that is his responsibility before getting excited about his ‘help’ defense.

It definitely says something about his defense that James Keefe gets to start games, given the huge disparity in their offensive capabilities.

RN is one of our most important offensive players. He still has plenty to learn about being an elite defender. It is understandable, given that he is a freshman, that he is not yet the finished product. And, as he matures, he should learn to cut down on the cheap fouls that threaten to limit his minutes.

by britishbruin on Feb 4, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

RN is being asked, as a true freshman, to anchor the zone defense, be the only member of the team that regularly hits the offensive boards. He is the Bruins sole low post threat. He is being asked to play out of position. He was a wing player in high school, he has yet to unveil his face up game or his ability to take guys off the bounce. He is not a center. The Bruins inability to keep teams off the glass is due in large part to the team’s relative inexperience in playing zone and the lack of overall atheticism outside of Honeycutt. RN is holding up his end of the bargain.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

well

to some of those points:

be the only member of the team that regularly hits the offensive boards

leaving out the first pac-10 game – in which TH only played 11 minutes – TH has more offensive boards than RN in the first half of the Pac-10 season. So I don’t buy that.

He is the Bruins sole low post threat

yup, and is doing a great job under the circumstances

RN is holding up his end of the bargain

For a freshman playing out of position, he is doing as well as can be expected; his offensive skills look good and his defense needs a lot of work. He does not appear to be part of a team rebounding strategy and tries to jump against taller opponents rather than holding them off and getting the rebound or boxing out the opposing center and allowing a teammate to get the rebound. This may be a team failing rather than an individual failing, but too many shots that come off our backboard become free-for-alls.

by britishbruin on Feb 4, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

My bad

I unintentionally overlooked Honeycutt’s contributions on the glass. If there is a bright spot to this year’s team it’s that TH and RN figure to improve over the summer. I selfishly wish Moser could get some run, he’s got a large upside too.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

sure

The negative spin on the same thought would be, it’s a shame that the players who figure to improve most are likely going to be playing the 3 and 4, while we are still uncertain about our starting center and starting PG…

Just need Smith and Bobo to be able to man the 5, and some combination of Jerime Anderson, Zeke Jones, Tyler Lamb, Malcolm Lee to fill the guard spots, and we have the potential to be decent.

by britishbruin on Feb 4, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Next year

It will be interesting to see if Howland uses the zone along with his staple man-to-man next year. The team will be really young – no seniors in the starting lineup. Next years lineup: Jones (PG) Lee (SG) Honeycutt (SF) Nelson (PF) Smith © – Bench – JA, TL, MM, BL, Stover.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Morgan too...

Well, perhaps, maybe…

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyler Lamb

I like your projected lineup for next year, but I still hope that Lamb may be so good that he can start at SG. And depending on how good Zeke Jones is, Lee or Jones starting at PG. I know Lee is a SG, but he has made great progress this year at PG, filling in for our weak link. OK, one of our weak links.

by Arturo del Mundo on Feb 4, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee

For Lee to run point next year he’d have to greatly improve his handle and show better ability to command the offense. As much as I have hyped up ML (I’ve seen him play since he was 15, the young man has NBA level skill) he’s yet to take over the team or consistently demand the ball in crunch time. He also has yet to prove he can hit the open jumper consistently. He’s still raw in his development, but I don’t think he’s a true PG.

Lamb ready to step in and compete next year. It wouldn’t be a stretch in my mind that Howland finds a way to play Smith along with Jones, Lee, Honeycutt and Lamb. That team would be exceptional on defense with their quickness and athleticism. That combo would be a little light on the boards.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Critical to win tonight

A victory over Stanford is going to be necessary to keep us in the top half of the conference, because I don’t expect Cal to shoot 1-17 from the 3 on Saturday. We got lucky against the Bears in Haas, and while I would love to see a repeat, I don’t expect to. Cal is the only team in the Pac 10 that has legitimate all around talent + a good coach. They are going to be driven to avenge the prior loss as well as the frustration of the loss to AZ last week. Hate to be a downer, but that game looks like a Bruin nightmare.

On the flip side, the Bruins should have beaten Stanford in Maples. Stanford looked atrocious last weekend, particularly against AZ State, and there is no excuse for the Bruins to let this hapless squad sweep the season series.

In a sense, the Stanford game could make or break this whole season. A loss tonight, plus a loss on Saturday, and UCLA will be back at the bottom of this pathetic conference. A win tonight keeps us over .500, with some confidence, and still with an arguable chance of stealing the Pac 10 tourney.

by TigerBruin on Feb 4, 2010 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

Some points...

UCLA, whether it’s the by product of playing lesser competition in conference, the team learning to play with one another and overcoming various injuries and distractions or finally playing closer to its talent level, is rather unlucky to be sitting at 10-11 overall and 5-4 in conference.

Sure the Bruins needed considerable luck in defeating Cal and Washington, and had to hold off ASU in the conference opener. But those wins don’t hide the fact that UCLA was in position to win in five of their losses – CSUF, Butler, CSULB, Stanford and Oregon. This team is figuring it out, is beginning to play somewhat consistently – especially the front court. The turnaround is directly tied to the arrival of Honeycutt and the insertion of Lee at the point.

The team will continue to play frustratingly at times and experience some long lapses on the offensive end, but, the growth of this club is measurable in effort, effeciency and defensive identity. The Bruins aren’t as talented as previous teams under Howland, but this club is still growing and finding its stride. The team is splitting on the road in conference – not an easy feat under any circumstance. They have identified the areas that they were poor in and have made adjustments.

This weekends games are critical because they face some really tough opposition on the road the next few weeks. The Bruins should beat Stanford. Cal figures to be a really tough game on Saturday, but they are beatable. If this team is sitting atop the conference after Superbowl Sunday, they better start engraving Coach Howland’s name on the COY trophy.

Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

by 11 Banners on Feb 4, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Nikki Caldwell ...

I know, I know that the women’s basketball team is not on everyone’s mind today, what with signing day yesterday and the men’s game tonight.

But if you think of it, send some good karmic thoughts up to Palo Alto tonight. Nikki Caldwell’s squad takes on 19-1 Stanford, the number two team in the country. We have a good team, winning will be tough but not impossible.

The women really need at least a split in the Bay Area this week and if they manage the upset tonight, they have a decent shot at the sweep.

by Achilles on Feb 4, 2010 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

Go Lady Bruins!

If I could watch that game instead, I would…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 4, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

hopes for these two games

Is that we get the same results we got 2 yrs ago at home when we had Stanford on Thu and Cal on Sat, but without having to sweat it out as much and be on edge.

by maccabita4life on Feb 4, 2010 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

Sweet!

I’ll keep an eye out for him! GO BRUINS!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Feb 4, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

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