Hoops Roundup: Bruins' Pulse On Ben Howland & Next Season
So some really great reflections in response to our latest poll concerning Ben Howland's approval as the head coach of UCLA basketball. As of right now the feelings are pretty split (just like UCLA's sub .500 record this past season) in BN.
51 percent of the community being either unsure or disapproving Howland's performance as the head coach of UCLA basketball. While 47 percent of this community still either approve or strongly approve of Howland as the head coach one can easily sense the trepidation around those nods by reading through our comment threads. bruin7982 laid out his reasons for voting to disapprove our head coach (emphasis added throughout):
My standard for UCLA basketball (perhaps unrealistically high) is that UCLA should seriously contend more often than not for national championships and that off seasons should be such as we had last year or in Howland's second season. What happened this year should just never happen. In Howland's seven seasons as coach, UCLA has been a serious contender for national honors 3 times (the three final four years). That's not bad, but my problem is that it seems the talent level has fallen off rather than gone up over the last few years. And I just don't see things getting a whole lot better next year - there are a lot of things that have to break right in order for that to happen (players remaining in school and improving their attitudes, recruits turning out to be good, etc.). Now, I'm not saying that Howland should be fired. The three final fours show that he can put together good teams. I would say we should take another look in a couple of years and see if he has been able to put the program back on the right track. But if not, the program needs to go in another direction.
Blue Me, who along with yours truly have been rightfully critical of number of serious issues through the whole season is in the unsure category:
Quite frankly, I am perplexed as to what the hell has happened to this program. There are things that happened this year that I never in a million years would have guessed would happen to a Ben Howland-coached team. The problems seem to run deeper than can be explained by a episodic "downturn" that can happen to any program. What most perplexes me is the complete absence of any clear-cut positive signals that things will turn around relatively quickly. I am just not seeing it.
As far as I'm concerned, taking everything into account, next year is Howland's "show me" season. It should be readily apparent to anyone that follows this program closely that we are heading in the right direction by the time March 2011 rolls around.
While gbruin is voting to approve with anxious thoughts about next season:
CBH is the leader of this program. The buck stops with him. And he completely mismanaged this season. He allowed precedents to be established which killed the ethic and spirit of this team. The team flailed in the environment. More than the players, CBH was responsible for this year, and in my eyes, he lost a great deal of standing in this program.
Having said that, I think (and desperately hope) that the real CBH is the coach of the 3 F4's, and that this year was the aberration. In that light, I still approve of his job thus far. But the gap between approve and disapprove got a lot smaller this year. Next year will be very interesting and very telling.
If you haven't done so you can vote here and register your comment in this thread.
So what about next year? Well on a day when everyone else is going to occupied with the present in basketball world (yes we will still have an open thread which Ryan will be heading up later today), thought I share some positive notes for next season.
Let's start with an article in the OC Register, in which Al Balderas wrote how the team is focusing on next season. I though the following quote from Malcolm Lee was a little uplifting:
Just how much better the Bruins become will be based on how much time is put in during the offseason workouts. Without any tournaments on their schedule, there is nothing like getting an early start.
And if any of them need that mid-offseason push, all they have to do is think back to the disaster that was their 2009-10 season.
"If the season like this doesn't motivate us for next season, we're just not basketball players," Lee said. "All basketball players should use adversity as a motivation process for next year because you really don't want to repeat it."
Well I still think it's a good bet that Lee is going to test the NBA waters, which is not going to reflect well on Howland. However, if he goes through the feeling out process and take the reasonable step of coming back for another season, I hope he lives up to those words. I have been hard on Malcolm Lee number of times this season for his off-field comment and tweet. However, I think he has given consistent effort through the entire season. He still has a lot to work on which includes gaining strength and weight, and developing a semblance of an outside shot. If he puts in the work this off-season, I still think he (along with Anderson) has an opportunity to salvage some of the tattered reputation of incoming class of 2008.
Meanwhile, some Bruin alums are sounding upbeat about our team next season. Smoooth as silk Jaamal Wilkes is hoping for a silver lining:
You hope for the silver lining that maybe some of these young players for UCLA played a lot and maybe got some experience, and maybe got a better understanding of what it's going to take next year for success. I think coach Howland, he's going to bounce back. The reality is that you have down years. Everyone does.
Okay, I will bite my lips here about younger players getting the experience they needed this season. LOL Yet for the good of the program we all agree with the overall sentiment expressed by Jamaal (or like gbruin desperately hope that there will be a silver lining).
Similarly Sean Farnham talked about the work Bruins will have to put in this off-season:
Adopting the right mantra to play for Ben Howland. You need to be a tough player to fit into his system, both mentally and physically. The players that are, have flourished and propelled themselves and the Bruins' program in recent years. I believe that with players like Reeves Nelson and JC Transfer point guard Lazeric Jones, that the days of competing and playing the Howland brand of basketball will return to Westwood quickly.
[Ssshhhhh. Sean, it's Tyler Lamb not Mike Lamb]
I still don't think it is smart to pin all of our hopes on Lazeric Jones. I don't remember a JC transfer ever making a big difference for UCLA basketball. I think the most we can hope for Jones is that he is going to bring hard completion against Jerime Anderson and that Ben Howland will actually be playing guys who win competition during weekly practices (We simply refuse to believe and accept Nikola Dragovic won those competitions during practices these past season and the data from this season and his entire career supports that assertion).
Anyway, it is a dangerous proposition for UCLA basketball fans to hope that all our guard worries will be taken care of by Jones. For us to be reasonably optimistic for next season we need to bring in at least one more guard in this year's class and hope both Anderson and Lee put in the work with extreme dedication and commitment this off-season.
We don't need to go into detail in terms of the factors Ben Howland needs to address heading into this offseason setting up next couple of years. There are lots of Ifs and factors that need to break our way this off-season. Yet noted Pac-10 observers like Greg Hansen are already pronouncing Bruins as the favorite to win the conference next season. For the sake of Ben Howland and more importantly for UCLA basketball, let's hope he is right.
GO BRUINS.
28 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Changes in the coaching staff?
Little has been said, post-season, about a topic Nestor has raised and one that many of us believe to be critical to the future of the program — a re-evaluation of the entire staff and, perhaps, some changes.
We need more perceptive recruiters — better talent evaluators.
We need a staff that can challenge CBH when it thinks he is going the wrong direction either in style of play or player choices.
We need a staff that can contribute to the improvement of individual players and their skills. For example, I cannot think of one player that got better as the season wore on. TH got “better” as he got healthier. But, I didn’t see one player improve a skill set. Two glaring examples of areas in which improvement was needed — turn overs and free throws. The stat’s on both remained dismal. Although we didn’t see much of Bobo and almost none of Moser, I wonder if we have a “big man” coach working with Bobo on developing shots and understanding the D.
And, CBH may need some help getting some of these players to understand and buy into his “D creates offense” philosophy.
I believe in CBH and the system.
And, I think he needs and deserves a staff that can help keep him and the team on the right path.
Has anyone heard any rumblings about staff evaluation and/or changes?
CBH has been called “stubborn”. Others might call him “loyal”. One is seen as bad, the other good.
I hope that he is not so loyal to the staff that he is not capable of evaluating it and making the changes many of us feel are necessary.
sjh
It may take a while to hear rumblings
Few factors in play here:
- The staff is in the middle of a huge recruiting push to close out spring signing period. I am assuming some of the guys might be fighting for their jobs in proving their mettle. If we strike out on Jones (Terrence), McCallum, Zeigler, Jack and other major recruits this spring, the need for change will become even more paramount.
- Even if Howland might want to make changes keep in mind the college basketball season is still going on. So we might not hear or read about possible shakeups after the season is completely over.
It will take a while. We will have to see how things are in the coming weeks.
Still going on?
College basketball is dead to me.
March Madness used to be my favorite time of the year. Multiple TV’s, I wouldn’t schedule or take work.
Now, I just can’t get excited.
Although, I may tune in for some of the Sam Houston State v. Baylor game. I’ve got a friend who is a high-school-club team coach who says that SHS is a sleeper and might give Baylor (a stronger sleeper) a very tough game.
sjh
"- The staff is in the middle of a huge recruiting push to close out spring signing period."
At first I thought, “Yeh, that makes sense” let’s see who they can close on your list.
And, then I thought — can our staff see beyond the 5 star ratings and truly evaluate this group? Or, will it “prove its mettle” by bringing us another Fools Gold, highly rated group?
I’m really conflicted by this. I’m drawn to the prom queen but know I haven’t had success dating girls like her before.
I really hope this staff has learned some serious lessons from the mistakes it made in its highly successful recruiting year that got us the “#1 Class” in the nation.
sjh
Blue Chips/Blue Collars: We Need Both
While everyone fondly remembers the work ethic of PAA and LMR, we wouldn’t have made a run without the anchors in first year class: AA and JF. Both of them were McDonald All Americans, five star recruits (I guess what you are calling “prom queens”).
Howland must bring in a mix of both elite talent and role players who are all hard workers and dedicated kids. We shouldn’t be just looking to recruit blue collar players. This is UCLA not Butler or something.
But, we have to have staff who can evaluate
the prom queens to decide if they are going to dance with us or just preen and act entitled.
And, that’s the reason I posted.
My faith in this staff’s ability to choose who will spend the night dancing to our tune has been diminished.
sjh
in reference to prom queens
“Your best…? Losers always whine about ‘their best’.
Winners go home and…"
by britishbruin on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Roll on front page article of USA Today
I’m on my iPhone, so I only can provide this link right now:
http://iphone.usatoday.com/1574367/news/;jsessionid=AE142F0D587BB7B3050FB40ABF5766F9.wap2
…but the article about march madness can be found on the front page of usatoday.com, and how much it burns MR not to be in the dance this year.
by RideUCLA on Mar 18, 2010 6:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
On a 'regular' computer
the link leads to a shortened version of the article for mobile phones, and also has a link to the complete story.
Nestor, you forget Sidney Wicks
“I don’t remember a JC transfer ever making a big difference for UCLA basketball.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t John Vallely also a JC transfer. I bring them up because I want — really want — to believe that Lazuric Jones will be in that category. At this stage I need to believe in SOMETHING to bring the program back, and pg play will be key to the comeback.
Jack Haley/Mark Eaton also went JC
I only mention them because they went on to have pro careers.
While not a UCLA example, Juco transfer Jermaine Dixon
has been an absolute stud for Pittsburgh this year and was a solid contributor last year. I’m hoping for that kind of impact, though not expecting it.
by OthercoastBruin on Mar 18, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Steve Francis, Shawn Marion
Transfers can be valuable- especially when filling a position of need
by AllHailMightyBruins on Mar 18, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
My two cents on next year team
With MR gone, our shooting percentage, especially free throws, will suffer. I don’t see we are a 3 point shooting team at all. Howland needs to develop the next year team to be an inside team, which means strong offensive and defensive rebounds and short jumpers. The key players are TH, RN, and JS. ML and JA need to improve in order for us to go anywhere. With one year more of experience, I hope we can improve on the turnovers. I voted “approved” for coach Howland mainly because I felt we simply don’t have the good players for him to do what he wanted to do. I even marginally accept the rationale for coach to play ND those extra minutes for the same reason.
another jc transfer from the past
I believe that Gail Goodrich was also a jc transfer. One of the best guards ever.
Goodrich was not a jc transfer
No, I don’t think so. Those days freshmen can not play and Goodrich played 3 years for us.
for the record
Sidney Wicks went to Santa Monica CC but Stumpy came right out of Polytechnic
no D no ring
What concerned me most about this year was the collapse of our defense and commitment to it. Howland teams were always known for superior defensive effort and I rarely saw it this year. Howlands teams created offense from defense and won many games in the 50’s. Unless he returns to that mindset we will not be sucessful. 3 point shooters won’t matter much if we can’t stop dribble penetration and create turnovers. I won’t point any fingers because it will take a complete team effort.
For example, I cannot think of one player that got better as the season wore on.
Not sure I agree. It appeared to me that MR improved over the course of his career and improved over the course of this season.
He appeared to have more ways he could score as the season went on. He did not continue to stay out beyond the 3 point line and bomb away. I dont have statistics on this (not sure there is a real good one) but he also seemed to reduce the number of bone head mistakes over the course of the season.
Not trying to make him god’s gift to mankind, but I wanted to acknowledge progress that went beyond just being a Ben Ball Warrior. I believe he became a better player. Obviously he became more important as evidenced by his “wanna get away” game at ASU…………
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Mar 18, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions
MR did get better as the season went on
He became our best passer (Started at Point for ORST game) and led the team in assists. He had some tough moments early on with the ball going to the basket. He improved going to the basket.
Coming into the year he was a very good 3 point shooter, that’s it. He really did step up AND improve during the year.
Zeke Jones
I watched his video. He looked good against very weak competition. We won’t know what we have with him until next season is underway.
Changes in coaching staff
I’ve been following BN for a couple of years now. I’ve watched our BB program slide the last couple of years but never was on the CBH bandwagon, even during the 3 final 4 yrs. When we got to the final 4 games we looked totally overmatched (and outcoached) against Florida and Memphis. Look at the talent we had on the 2007-2008 team with Collison, Westbrook, Love, Aboya and Shipp. 3 solid future NBA players and we still couldn’t get it done. I remember Love looking over at CBH for answers near the end of the Memphis game and CBH had no idea what to do. Love might have played another year for a coach he could learn something from.
I have just never been convinced that CBH’s defense first, “Ben Ball Warriors” style of play can win the big games against good solid BALANCED teams. Yes, defense is very important, but you have to be able to make the other team play good defense too.
Watching Collison and Westbrook walk the ball up the floor in our methodical offense used to kill me. Yes, we used to get some fast breaks and spectacular dunks off turnovers but that just doesn’t happen that often against the better teams. Our set offense has been slow, methodical, and prone to turnovers when our shots weren’t falling. We seemingly always struggle with free throws as a team, Collison excepted. Free throws require coaching for proper fundamentals, not just shooting a bunch at practice.
I am starting to think that CBH’s style is better suited to a turnaround situation where he can re-build a fallen program and may not be as suited to long term success at an elite program like UCLA. I think we should have hired Pitino and dumped the Lizard back when we had the chance! Next year is CBH’s do it or move on year as far as I’m concerned.
HW
I agree with you
And what’s more, if you were a talented high school senior, would you want to head to UCLA and play that style? I don’t think so. Besides, who is going to play tough defense for an entire game when there is never any excitement on the offensive end? This is the dilemma CBH created when everything is so tightly controlled. There is no fire, spontaneity, creativity or much of anything else worth a darn. It’s become boring loosing basketball. It’s not going to cut it on a national level or with talented recruits.
Practice
while free throw woes are not only a problem at UCLA but thoughout much of college/pro/high school ball. Yes, fundamentals and technique are important but so is the way they are practiced. Just standing there and shooting shot after shot isnt the answer. Game situatuions where running, rebounding sprinting drills lead to unexpected free throws-make them or more laps or line drills(GASERS). Much of the problem begins early on where the kids worry more about their three point shot or as they get bigger their dunking moves. When you had to shoot to make a team playing on a court the free throw percentage would improve. Now it is more of a pick em sides game.
Wrt to that Greg Hansen article
Reading articles like that makes me wonder if we’re over-dramatizing the immediate “bleak” future of Ben Ball. I mean, Honeycutt looks like he’s going to make a Westy-esque freshman-to-sophomore leap next year, Nelson looks like he’s going to be a solid post player, and Smith looks like a guaranteed double-double guy. Throw in Lee’s almost-definite improvement due to playing all of his minutes at the 2, the fact that our PG situation couldn’t possibly be worse next year than it was this year, the absence of Rag, and the Pac-10’s overall crappiness again next year, and a 2010-11 Pac-10 title doesn’t seem too far-fetched.

by 






















