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Locals doing well on first day of NCAA Tournament

I hate to beat this subject down repeatedly, but I can't help it.  There was a great discussion/posts yesterday on the subject of local players we have not landed and why we missed out on them.  We were asked to list some guys we have missed or not recruited.  It was very interesting, and it sparked me to look further into guys from the Los Angeles area and how they did yesterday in the tournament.  I have stated for months (not saying I am necessarily correct, just my point of view) that I think CBH has lost his way and failed to recruit the "tougher" areas of Los Angeles, specifically the Los Angeles City area, the City Schools in the San Fernando Valley, the Inland Empire, and the Long Beach area. Their are obviously other areas which produce "tough as nails" kids that I didn't list, but because I think those are the specific areas we have lacked an interest in lately, those are the one's I focused on for this post.  

One of the reasons I bring them up is because those are the areas that have produced our most recent stars.  Farmar, Mata, Shipp, and Afflalo were the anchors of CBH's foundation.  Before him, our program has made history with stars from those area's (Eddie and Charlie O., Tyus Edney, Trevor Wilson) that flourished in Westwood.  Lately, CBH has forgotten those area's, or at the least, not paid as much attention, and we have paid the price.  I have no problem going after the kids from the OC, believe me their is some talent.  However, for the OC to be our foundation, and to go after national recruits which aren't as good as the kids in our own backyard is costing us bigtime.  

So in the spirit of the interesting and though-provoking post yesterday on another thread, I did some very unscientific research (I am sure I missed some people) and put together a short list of kids who played and did pretty well yesterday in Day #1 of the NCAA Tournament.  This list doesn't even include kids who are very, very good players who didn't make the tournament (Larry Drew, UNC. Derrick Williams, Arizona), others who are from those area's who are still going to play today (Michael Snaer, Florida State, etc).  This is just what I came up with.....all on only the first day.

Chase Stanback, Fairfax, (transfer from UCLA), UNLV:  11 pts, 6 reb.

Kawhi Leonard, King HS (Riverside), SD ST:  12 pts, 10 reb.

Jordan Hamilton, Dominguez, Texas:  19 pts, 6 reb.

Oscar Bellfield, Westchester, UNLV:  13 pts, 5 asst.

Hollis Thompson, Loyola, Georgetown: 16pts.

Others who played but whose stats were minimal:  Darnell Gant, Crenshaw, Washington.  Justin Holiday, Campbell Hall, Washington. 

Not very scientific, but interesting considering the fact that it is only based on a handful of winning teams, in only the first day of the tournament.  I think this shows that the talent in those areas is strong, and always will be.  I only hope that CBH can go back to those areas soon and make those areas the foundation of our recruiting.  Just my 2 cents!



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it deserves discussion and I think you are on to something.

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by MexiBruin on Mar 19, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Muir

You and I have pretty much been thinking the same on this for a while now. I think we actually started talking last year about how areas that were so fertile with talent are seemingly being ignored. While some of the guys you mentioned couldn’t come to UCLA even if we wanted, you know that and the overall point is right on target.

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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 19, 2010 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

All of the stats were for losing teams

SDSU, UNLV, Georgetown and Texas all lost.

UNC underperformed with Drew at PG

A good case could be made that the west coast recruits aren’t that talented compared to the east coast kids.

by KaponoMagic on Mar 19, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Kapono

with all due respect, I don’t buy that argument. All of those teams (except for the highest seed Georgetown) played great games which could have gone either way. I disagree with you that the East Coast kids are more talented than the West Coast kids. In local AAU tournaments and in High School rankings, the West Coast is just as competetive. Just because those teams lost close games does not mean that the talent is down. All of the guys I mentioned are either freshman or sophomores………..their are many other factors that could have gone into why their teams lost games which came down to the last minute.

by muircoach on Mar 19, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The talent is down

There’s no comparison between the players that came out of the West Coast the last 2-3 years and the previous three years. It’s no coincidence that just about the entire Pac-10 was down, save a few teams that were led by seniors. UNC also recruited well from CA the last couple years, and not so shockingly, they too had a down year.

2004-2006
Chase Budinger – CA
Brook Lopez – CA
Robin Lopez – CA
Quincy Pondexter – CA
Russell Westbrook – CA
Patrick Christopher – CA
Taj Gibson – CA
Ryan Anderson – CA
Spencer Hawes – WA
Martell Webster (NBA) – WA
Jon Brockman – WA
Marcus Williams – WA
Terrence Williams – WA
Amir Johnson (NBA) – CA
Darren Collison – CA
Michael Roll – CA
Jeff Pendergraph – CA
Theo Robertson – CA
Lawrence Hill – AZ
Robert Swift (NBA) – CA
Jordan Farmar – CA
DeMarcus Nelson – CA
Gabe Pruitt – CA
Arron Afflalo – CA
Bryce Taylor – CA
Josh Shipp – CA
DeVon Hardin – CA
Taylor Rochestie – CA
Nick Young – CA
Marvin Williams – WA
Josh Heytvelt – WA
Rodney Stuckey – WA

2007-2009
Isaiah Thomas – WA
Venoy Overton – WA
Reggie Moore – WA
Kyle Singler – OR
Kevin Love – OR
Luke Babbitt – NV
DeAndre Liggins – NV
Avery Bradley – NV
Elijah Johnson – NV
Jordan Hamilton – CA
Renardo Sidney – CA
Michael Snaer – CA
Tyler Honeycutt – CA
Hollis Thompson – CA
Kawhi Leonard – CA
Derrick Williams – CA
Reeves Nelson – CA
Jrue Holiday – CA
Demar Derozan – CA
Klay Thompson – CA
James Harden – CA
Austin Daye – CA
Jerryd Bayless- AZ

I’m sure there are people missing – from both lists – but for the last couple years the West Coast has really been lacking in both top talent (with a few exceptions in 2007) and depth.

by SuperBruinMan on Mar 20, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Ryan.......

yeah, I know that academics make it impossible for all of them to come, but there are many kids from those areas who can qualify and would love to come to UCLA. The academics has always been a challenge, but a great example is right in front of us in CRN. He has made it a point to try to win recruiting battles in his backyard and while he doesn’t get everyone he probably wants because of the academic standards, he gets many.

We have been speaking on this for some time now, but because we were so successful recently, it wasn’t that big of an issue to many. Now, with our struggles in recruiting and so forth, it is more in the forefront. I also forgot to mention how DC is from Etiwanda HS and RW was from Lawndale. Except for AA and LRMM, our most successful players as of late have been almost all locals from the areas I mentioned, who understand the respect and reverence for those four-letters on the front of our jersey. Let’s get back to basics and dominate our backyard……..that is what will get us to the top and keep us there.

by muircoach on Mar 19, 2010 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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