[VIDEO] Tyler Lamb is OC 2009/2010 Player of the Year
by 75NatChamps on Mar 23, 2010 1:50 PM PDT
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PrintToday's OC Register features a front page article on Tyler Lamb, wherein he is compared to Miles Simon, former NCAA Tournament MVP.
Lamb, a 6-foot-5 senior guard, was consistently spectacular, and spectacularly consistent. He led the Monarchs with 18.5 points a game, was second in rebounding at 6.8 rebounds a game and tied for the team lead in assists at 3.6 a game. Lamb scored a team-high 22 points in Mater Dei's 68-65 victory over Etiwanda in the CIF-SS 1AA final at Honda Center, and scored a season-high 32 points Saturday when the Monarchs lost to Westchester of Los Angeles, 71-63, in the CIF Southern California Regionals Division 1 championship game at USC's Galen Center.
The online article also includes video of Tyler Lamb's play for Mater Dei.
Tyler looks like the real deal, and will definitely add to the core of TH, RN, BL and ML. I can't imagine that he won't be a starter, any more than I could imagine TH not winning a starting position this year. Hopefully, with Zeke Jones, JS2 and a rejuvenated JA (after a hardworking offseason) we'll have a team that will challenge for the Pac10 title and get back into this NCAA thing. Go Bruins.
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Congrats to Tyler
I’m really excited about Tyler and think he can be a heck of a player. I think he can contribute as a freshman, but we’re not going to see him be a major player until later on in his career and I think it’s important that we don’t expect greatness from him as a freshman.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions
why not expect greatness?
People seem concerned that high expectations will cause a person to crumble; but most of the academic literature on expectations (e.g. teachers of their students in general, or teachers’ expectations of specific students) suggests that people conform to the expectations – whether you expect greatness or expect mediocrity out of the same kid, you end up being right…
Sports may be different, and obviously there will occasionally be high profile examples of people who crash and burn despite high expectations; but it is hard to attribute causality in these cases. I am curious if anyone has anything other than anecdotal evidence (and also, an understandable wish not to get one’s own hopes up) that high expectations are damaging. Clearly it adds some pressure, but pressure can sometimes help. Maybe if we had been talking about how Jerime Anderson ought to be an All-American this year he would have worked harder in the off-season…
by britishbruin on Mar 23, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think the problem is high expectations
Just putting them on a freshman is rarely fair to the player. There are some players (like Kevin Love) that people knew would be immediate impact players. These kids are rare, and unless you’ve got a Love or a Wall or a Rose, failing to temper expectations on a kid’s first year is usually only a recipe for frustration.
Depends on the Player
Cedric Bozeman had high expectations and it was part of the reason why he crumbled. Much to CBH credit he rehabilitated his confidence his senior year.
Bobo Morgan also was supposed to be something amazing, it certianly did not help him. He came in out of shape and not ready to play at this level. And I think JA would fall into that category in the expectations game, i.e. not work too hard because he would believe his own press.
On the other side, KL , of course, was worth the hype. And sometime guys thrive on pressure and need the expectations. For example, I think expectations helped JF live up to being a leader right away.
So it depends on the player and I don’t know enough about Lamb. However, I would tend not to hype him too much because I think ML at 2 will be good and key to the success of this team next year. (If Lamb is really good, CBH will find room for both to be on the court.)
If there is one person who “needs” to be told we expect greatness from him next year it is TH. By that I mean, if I were CBH I strongly consider saying this team is going to be led by TH next year or something similar. IMO, TH needs to shoot more than 5 times a game. He needs to be “the man” and he is too deferential to other lesser talents. I think he really could be great but he needs to be more selfish and assertive on offense. This is unique to him obviously but I would tell him we “expect greatness” next year.
I see him like a famous LA baseball player. This kid was an amazing talent but looked and acted liked Opie. Tom Lasorda realized this and nicknamed him “bulldog” despite the kid looking like an Amish movie extra. He told him that he was going to win the Cy Young but he had to want it and needed to constantly fight for it. He would only call him bulldog to help make that point. The player was Orel Hershiser.
I see TH similarly and I think he needs that kind of pressure/expectation of greatness on him because he has the talent and the work ethic.
Team balance makes them all better
I see TH, RN and TL each getting 7-10 shots per game, with emphasis on which one depending on what the defense gives.
How does Lamb look on Defense?
It seems he can score, but can he defend? ML is the best M2M defender on the team right now and will get minutes on that basis alone.
I realize defense is hard to judge against HS competition but you can see quickness, footwork (defense is played with your feet first), etc.
on Ced
didn’t the coach person nominally employed with the title of “Head Coach” at the time proclaim Ced the next coming of Magic Johnson, or something equally absurd?
There are high expectations that can push you to achieve your best, and there are completely farcical expectations that can only lead to disappointment…
by britishbruin on Mar 24, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah he did
The coach person nominally employed with the title of "Head Coach" did and expected CB to be Magic from day one. It was actually one of the many things that lead to his downfall.
But so did the scouting services to some extent. They always hype kids to the extreme. I have told it before but I remember relatively far back being excited when I read about the “taller James Worthy” we had as a commit years ago. That person, Kevin Walker was probably a better three point shooter than Worthy but had absolutely nothing in common with him except in the minds of the idiot scouting service.
I can't imagine low expectations would have made Bobo a player
Bobo still lacks physical strength and quickness. No high or low expectations can change that. Working in the weight room and working of footwork might work for him. He simply was not ready for Division I play when he arrived, and he’s not there yet. He is a decent shot blocker and sees the floor well as a passer, so he’s not a complete bust as a player. I wonder if he will ever get enough playing time to develop.
Bobo has improved from his FR year
If Bobo had more to prove he may have come in shape and played in the summer before he would have been better off. Not ready to live up to his hype certianly but closer than he was. In other words, like his sophomore year and not like his freshman year.
Completely agree on quickness but not sure I agree on strength. You could be right. He has size and bulk which really helps.
One strange problem he had this year, he is bad in zone because he does not rebound well. He does not find his man to box out. In M2M he is better off because he already has his man. In zone, he would often be a statue when the shot went up instead of boxing someone out.
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Oof... the OC has not been historically kind to us
in terms of producing basketball talent that actually meets the hype.
TL's consistent great play against top competition
leads me to conclude that he will make immediate contributions. This guy is a player.
Originally went to high school in Ontario
That is San Bernadino County. So lets hope he doesn’t have that OC attitude
OC attitude?
As in, he’d rather be playing baseball? Or quarterback?
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
as in
the previous analysis of how our OC basketball recruits don’t seem to have the right attitude to play CBH’s style of ball, compared with the city kids.
by britishbruin on Mar 24, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
I seriously don’t think attitude is the problem, but rather lack of ability. Mike Roll had the attitude, but he didn’t have the ability. Jerime Anderson may not have the attitude sure, but in my opinion neither does he have the ability. James Keefe? I seriously doubt all the attitude in the world could help his game. I’m sorry for this. Now as far as an over-arching attitude amongst people here in the OC that prohibit players from doing well at the next level, I’d argue that playing basketball in the OC is more in line with how Howland runs his teams. If you look at players from LA, most of them are high scoring run-n-gun affairs. Here in the OC, teams run much more patient team oriented offenses. That more often than not also means teams which stress defense.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
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Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
If we can get another Mike Roll
I’ll gladly take it.
Of course we need a quality starter more than a role-player, but I’ll happily take a hard working kid (which Lamb seems like).
TL can play.
I don’t care where he went to school.
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