[UPDATE: 2 Year Bowl Ban, Loss Of 30 Scholarships For Trogans] Hello Kiffin Left Holding Cheatey Petey's Donuts
by Nestor on Jun 10, 2010 10:46 AM PDT
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Clay Travis unloads on AOL's Fanhouse:
Lane Kiffin dreamed that he could be the next Pete Carroll. Instead of building on Carroll's dominance, Kiffin is the bag-holder, the fall guy left behind in a conspiracy to illegally dominate college football. For the next two years, Kiffin is in survival mode, from globetrotting CEO of USC, Inc. to fevered BP executive with his own metaphorical oil spill to contain in a matter of moments.
Lane Kiffin, just learned what Thomas Wolfe, a man who made his home a few hours from Knoxville, taught us so long ago, even if USC is your dream job, you can't go home again.
For Pete Carroll, life is grand with the Seattle Seahawks. He's tweeting up a storm from just up the coast. He's making more money, he's relaxed, the Seattle rain doesn't even get him down. Why should it? He's an Internet millionaire who sold his company the day before Wall Street tanked.
But for Lane Kiffin, the boyish coach with the golden interview skills, the man who believes he wields a whistle on campus fields like Picasso moved a paintbrush on canvas, the failure to examine all the angles in his move to USC must be crushing right now. If everything Midas touched turned to gold, Lane Kiffin has to be looking at his head-coaching hands, the same hands that left behind a steaming wreck in both Oakland and Tennessee, and wondering to himself: Why does everything I touch turn to crap?
Including, meanwhile, that career head-coaching record of 12-21.
Oooof. The entire post is a must read but I do have to share one more graf:
How can USC even hope to compete with the likes of Texas and Oklahoma in the midst of its probation? Not to mention how Kiffin will compete with the wolves in his own sun-bedecked city. Why do I picture UCLA head coach Rick Neuheisel applying aftershave this morning while repeating over and over to himself, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."
Meanwhile, Dennis Dodd at CBSSportsline.com writes "it is the end of USC football as we know it":
Based on similar cases, USC could be in for a long dry period. Oklahoma had similar scholarship reductions in 1988. It went through three coaches before getting lucky with Bob Stoops. Twelve years after the penalties, OU won the 2000 national
And we feel just fine (mega HT to DERF18 from BruinReportOnline.com for putting REM in my head for rest of the afternoon).
GO BRUINS.
UPDATE (N): From Dan Wetzel who is tweeting up listening to the audio stream:
Embargo over, Bloodbath for USC: Vacate 04 BCS title game, all 05 season. 15 scholly limit for next 3 years -- a loss of 30 scholarships
The 30 lost scholarships is an absolutely massive total. That's a behind the woodshed type punishment. Also, two year bowl ban via web
I think it's time to have that celebratory beer. GO BRUINS.
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"A cannon shot to the groin from 5 feet"?
Travis may have surpassed Knight for the quote of the day. Granted, I don’t know if I’d go THAT far re: the sanctions (I’d have preferred a solid 3-year postseason ban), but Travis’ write-up is OUTSTANDING.
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"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Lame should be kissing the NCAA's ass
He’s going to have a few years with zero expectations to try to figure out how to be head coach before suc figures out he’s not one.
I think that was his plan all along.
Is Todd McNair still on staff?
I’ve heard a couple of pundits give the same excuses about the players and coaches no longer being with the school as in basketball. I think with Kiffin and McNair being on staff still and with the recruits’ knowledge this was coming down there is no such argument.
Lame should not be all that upset
He is getting a boatload of money to coach the SUC. If they do well, he’ll be considered a hero. If he busts, he’ll have the opportunity to blame the sanctions. Either way he is laughing all the way to the bank!!
Question
Has the ncaa actually announced anything yet, or is this just based on leaks from anonymous sources as of 2:15 Eastern Time?
It all becomes official
in about 45 minutes
"He has to want it because talent only takes you so far. How much you want it is the difference between good and great." - Rick Neuheisel
by SonsOfWestwood on Jun 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
A little help here
I know once you sign your LOI you are locked in. I remember Bobo singed his with LSU, they had a coaching change and he was released. I am sure SUC has the option of releasing their players from the obligation, but most likely will not.
If scholarships are really a series of 1 year agreements, why does a player need to get released to transfer? Couldn’t they, at the end of one of the 1 year scholarship agreements just transfer wherever they want and just sit out a year?
Also how can a school grant a limited release? I remember hearing that SUC would only let players leave in the past if they left the Pac 10 (Moody, Hazelton). I also remember Matt Moore our old QB transferring within the Pac 10.
Any info would be appreciated.
Best line:
“I love the smell of napalm in the morning.”
Haha. This is exactly how I feel this beautiful thursday morning in LA.
Question.....
Did Petey get those doughnuts from Golden Tate? :)
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
This is like Christmas morning
and I keep opening presents.
"Make each day your masterpiece."--JRW
by Give me a B... on Jun 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
You guys on twitter NEED to follow @windycityscribe
It’s the jackpot of all leads to this thing! He’ll post a link to the report, which is 67 pages long, at noon today!
mentioning that the report includes a surprise guest
he won’t say who the celebrity is (though he rules out Snoop and Will Ferrell), just saying that it shows how corrupt and ridiculous that program got. I’m so excited. I second GivemeaB in the christmas feeling.
Notice
He’s taken the last donut, hovering over the empty box like a rude little kid who doen’t know any better.
Love My Bruins
He was saving the last one for LenDale....
Oh wait….. Never mind :)
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
The folks over at Every Day Should Be Saturday are working overtime....
This post is epic. Here’s a excerpt:
MIKE GARRETT, ED ORGERON, MONTE KIFFIN, and USC GENERAL COUNSEL sit in a conference room. A terrified aide runs in, dumps a hefty report reading “NCAA REPORT” on the table, and runs out before anyone can notice his face.
Orgeron: DAT DEREIT IS.
Mike Garrett: I’m the AD. I don’t read. People read to me.
Announcer’s voice: Unbeknownst to our crowd, Mike Garrett is one of the fifteen million Americans who cant read. Worse yet, he is one of the eight million illiterate Americans who are proud of this fact. Read to your children, America. Don’t let them become Mike Garrett.
Monte: /falls asleep
PLEASE fanshot this!
I haven’t even read the whole thing yet and I’m in tears laughing. Such a great way to get an early start on a glorious weekend.
TIck Tock
5 minutes…
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
Please tell us
if you see it. I am stuck in a meeting!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
NCAA drops the hammer on SUC
Market up more than 200 points. Sorry I do not belive in coicidences, they are connected.
Party time!
Listening online, they’re chattering about the Lakers. COME ON FARNHAM, bring it SC sanctions!
I feel a little bad for hockey fans
The Stanley Cup win last night has been largely overshadowed by SUC and expansion talks.
RESCUING DANCE MUSIC FROM THE BLAHS
"Student Athlete 1 including himself and his family and friends"
Cash, clothes, housing, furnishing, transportation.
Wonder who that is.
Basketball violiations
transportation, meals, merchandise (including TV for student athlete and friends) and cash.
Violations involved individuals who triggered NCAA investigations, benefits accepted by student athlete, family and friends that are impermissable.
same here
i’m so glad the NCAA decided to grow a pair.
what chance of winning on appeal do they realistically have?
I don't think they'll have much of a chance overturning it
but they MIGHT be able to whittle it down. I hope not. This sounds about right.
I think a backlash could happen
and maybe the NCAA would further extend the sanctions.
RESCUING DANCE MUSIC FROM THE BLAHS
Penalties
1. public reprimand and censure
2. four years of probation 6/10/10 6/9/14
3. men’s BBall ended team in 09/10
4. Football shall end 2010 and 2011 seasons on playing with regular games. No Bowl Games.
5. Per bylaws, institutions will vacate wins in which student athlete competed starting 12/04.
6. Student athlete 2, all wins vacated in 2007 and 2008 for basketball.
7. Vacate all wins in women’s tennis 11/2006 and May 2009. Self imposed.
Individual records of Student Athlete 1, 2 and women’s tennis will be vacated.
Records of head coaches will be reconfigured to reflect vacated results.
Institution record regarding FB, BB and WT will reflect vacated wins in all print media – media guides, recruiting material, NCAA archives. Any references shall be removed, INCLUDING CHAMPIONSHIPS HAHAHAHAHA. Including stationary and banners.
The NCAA accepted their self-imposed punishment on basketball
The NCAA isn’t going to take any other action on basketball
by bruinbabe2000 on Jun 10, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah--thanks BB
For some reason I read it more as “the team is gone as of 9/10” haha. oh well…wishful thinking I guess
by bruinhopeful on Jun 10, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Limit of 15 grants in aid
75 total of 2011, 2012, 2013-2014 years. footbakll
12 grants in aid for 2009-10, 11-12 (self imposed.)
Reduced by 1 the number of men’s basketball coaches allowed to recruit in summer 2010. (self imposed.)
Reduce recruiting days in Men’s BB by 20 days to 110 for 2010-2011 year. (self imposed.)
$5000 fine for student athlete 1
Return money for 2008 men’s basketball championship. (self imposed)
Student athlete 2 ineligibility, institution shall return all money through Pac-10 for appearance in 2008 men’s tourney for BBall.
Distributions from this appearance shall be withheld and forfeited to NCAA.
Institution disassociate with SA 1 (self imposed)
Institution will disassociate with SA 2 (self imposed)
Representative B will not be allowed to associate with athletics (self imposed.)
Institution must show that they will not associate with the student athletes
1. Do not accept assistance from individual that aids in recruit or enrollment.
2. Refuse contribution to athletic program
3. Ensure no benefits provided to individual not available to public
20. Committee troubled by failure to limit access to facilities
Insitution shall prohibit all non institute personnel, except media, family and those excepted by compliance office.
No travel on charter.
No attending practice.
No attending/participating in basketball camps, including donations
No access to sidelines and locker room, before during and after fball and bball games. Exceptions granted to prospective student athletes/families.
22. Must rely on coaches and staff regarding violations
(HAHAHA)
Going off on coach that said they didn’t violate anything.
Does this mean we can get the Victory Bell for two more years?
Since those games don’t count anymore.
I'm not sure where this leaves me
http://www.bruinsnation.com/2010/6/1/1497077/ncaa-report-on-usc-due-friday-june#
Which one applies here, BNers? It looks like somewhere between 3 and 4…maybe dancing in the streets in my underwear?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
You're dangerously close to underwear-only
And maybe “I Lo____” but not the whole thing
by bruinhopeful on Jun 10, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
With no tv ban
there shall be no writing on my body!
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Dancing and snickering Half-naked?
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jun 10, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Fox,
We haven’t forgotten that you joined in on this, my friend.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jun 10, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm in for parts of the dance
but someone has to play opera music.
Hmmmm...
divided horizontally…too easy.
Vertically….more interesting, definitely more interesting.
Love My Bruins
Gunna `
sit back with a botttle of carlo rossi and enjoy reading this. UCLA should sell this as a book on tape. Maybe Petey can narrate and Rodney Guillory can be a guest reader
A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil
Hey, there's even a shoutout to. . .
the Papadakis restaurant! At least that’s what it looks like on bottom of p.37-38. I wonder if that will be mentioned during my drive-time radio listening this afternoon. :)
BTW, I love the fact that we can now just drop page numbers and footnotes anytime some delusional supporter starts whining about how unfair this all is.
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