"southern con" Attacks Alabama, Florida & Pac-10 Schools To Distract From Its Recruiting Lies
So here is the latest from the sleazy cheaters over there. From ESPN:
In a letter written by USC director of compliance Matt Billings to Pac-10 Associate Commissioner for Governance and Enforcement Ron Barker, Florida, Washington, Oregon, Fresno State and Alabama allegedly contacted Baxter.
The letter states in part: "I just met with [Baxter] and he told me that he received phone calls from five institutions [June 10th]. All of the institutions asked if he was interested in transferring from USC due to the NCAA decision. Would you please speak with these schools to remind them they cannot speak to this student athlete?"
Pretty funny stunt for the Trogans to be so anxious and vigilant about the NCAA rules (Alabama fans are already ROFL). There is already one big problem with this latest "story" from southern cal. According to ESPN's Joe Schad "Baxter allegedly "lost his phone" since calls." Uh huh. Okay Dillon, that shouldn't be a problem. NCAA can easily get to the bottom of this by looking at Baxter's cell phone records and figure out exactly who was lying. The problem for Southern Cal is it doesn't good look for them to whine publicly about this considering their shady track record.
First, Hello Kiffin already has a tainted record of making up BS allegations as he was reprimanded by SEC commissioner Mike Slive "for falsely accusing Florida's Urban Meyer of a recruiting violation." Second, over here in Los Angeles, we are also used to southern cal making up BS recruiting whine (attacking CRN via Petey's Poodle aka Kenny Norton) to distract from the problems with their sleazy program. Third, there is also the clear pattern emerging about Hello Kiffin being dishonest with recruits since coming over as the "head coach." More on this after the jump.
From our post back in January it looks that Kiffin just flat out lied to Baxter (emphasis added throughout)
I talked to him (Lane Kiffin) yesterday. He said all the right things. I mean, all about the Reggie Bush thing and what not I am not sure what is going to go on ...
All I was told that worst that could have happen is stuff that I mean ... what happened with Reggie Bush is ... take some losses away ...but other than nothing could affect me or any of my team-mates in future.
At this point Baxter doesn't look all that great out of this. In other words he seems like the ultimate Trogan. Anyway, Pat Forde then exposed Hello Kiffin for lying to Seantrel Henderson:
According to media reports, Kiffin misled at least one recruit -- superstar offensive tackle Seantrel Henderson. The New York Times reported that Kiffin told Hendersons and his family not to worry about potential NCAA sanctions.
"As far as he's been informed -- he was very, very choosy with his words -- there shouldn't be anything going wrong because there was no knowledge of anything going on by the staff," Henderson's father, Sean, told The Times.
The story continued: "The Hendersons asked Kiffin to be clear about what impact the NCAA might have on the Trojans' football program, Sean Henderson said. Just before Seantrel chose USC on Wednesday, Kiffin reiterated not to listen to others who said the Trojans might face sanctions."
The fact is, Kiffin and everyone else at USC had no way of knowing whether the school was in the clear at that point. To present any different message to recruits was dishonest.
Now Cassius Marsh in the LA Times notes that Trogan coaches were not being honest with him on the recruiting trail.
"USC was the first school L.A. kids wanted to go to because it had been so dominant," said Marsh, who will be a freshman at UCLA in the fall. "Now that this has happened those players' first choice will be UCLA."
Marsh said he made the same assessment, though with less information.
"I knew something was going to happen, I just didn't know what," Marsh said. "[USC coaches] told me they would only lose some games. If I had known how bad they were going to get sanctioned, they wouldn't even have been on my list."
Just how ugly this is? Well consider this little nugget in Scot Wolf's southern cal report today:
Should anyone feel sorry for Kiffin, who essentially had his legs cut out from under him?
"He knew what he was getting into when he took the job," said a high-ranking USC official.
So a "high ranking" Trogan is telling one of the most influential Trogan media personalities that Kiffin knew all along how bad it was over at southern cal while he came over from Tennessee. So he knew how bad the situation was when communicating to these recruits.
Considering this kind of track record full of deceit and lies, exactly how can recruits, reporters or most importantly any NCAA officials trust anything coming out of this shady program. It is incredibly hilarious to see "southern con" reacting to their problems by basically flinging baseless excrements at anyone they can, thinking it will distract everyone from the real story. Finally, southern con has been exposed as the Enron of collegiate sports. Cheat on Trogans.
GO BRUINS.
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"...schools with an interest
…in a USC junior or senior are allowed to initiate contact with the player.“, [NCAA spokeswoman Stacey] Osburn said.” — ESPN.com link —> j.mp/ceGhsM
So much for trying to CLARIFY anything to these clowns. Looks like they Read even worse than they Write.
CHEAT ON. (Stealin that).
GO BRUIN BLUE
Baxter is an incoming freshman
So the contact rule doesn’t apply to him. If Baxter wants out, his only options are to request a release from his LOI, which U$C being U$C, might try to jam up.
by Bellerophon on Jun 13, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The more I read the reports
I wonder if the recruits (who just signed their LOI) also have an option to break their K by alleging fraud against Hello Kiffin.
That would be justified
He clearly lied to them and they were misinformed when making their decisions.
Man, this could lead to even more entertainment. Really, thinking back on the past year, the list of amusing and downright hilarious things that have happened is unbelievable. From United States China (and how he had to inform his wife about the cars he bought for other women) to the national embarassment trogans have become, its just more than I ever thought possible.
And, what ever happened to Mr United States China? Ever since he wrote that letter, there hasn’t been a peep out of him. I think garrett moved him to Yemen.
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
It will make for excellent drama
if the recruit accuses the coaching staff of lying to them, and then USC refuses to grant a release. That will give other coaches a lot of ammunition in recruiting wars.
POINT.
…especially when you see (a) Carroll & Garrett p*ssing all over their appeal by directing such disrespectful and inflammatory comments, taunts and rebuttals at the NCAA while (b) retaining such obviously tainted employees like Todd McNair — a guy the Committee all but said is guilty as sin.
Personally, I’m waiting (hoping) for the other shoe to drop. It’s like they can’t comprehend where they are.
GO BRUIN BLUE
The Dog Fighter
Must be sitting on a treasure trove of info. That is the only explanation why he is still keeping his job as an “assistant coach” over there.
Totally Agree
He has the picture of Mike Garrett with that very attractive goat that seems to get around the LA collegiate athletics scene.
sjh
LOI
If I had signed a letter of intent and now wanted out I would first request my release from SUC making such a request publically and if that did not work-I would sue for my release. By the time I got thru I would have my release and SUC would be further in shambles
Yup
If a recruit wanted to get out of its LOI signed with Hello Kiffin, he should definitely hold a press conference first, before formally pursuing recourse allowed within NCAA provisions. There seems to be a clear pattern of Kiffin deceiving recruits (at least according to reports). Expose them more publicly and force them to let the recruits out of LOI.
Here's to hoping one of their recruits does that soon...
prompting others to follow.
That's assuming any of them want out.
I’d wager that most of the trogan recruits see no reason at all to think the benefit gravy train has been derailed. Certainly not from the rhetoric coming out of Kiffin’s or Garrett’s mouth. The recruits probably expect it to be business as usual at South Central. I know I certainly expect it to be. Contrition is for suckers, right, ’sc?
Yep
Most of their recruits from last year probably drank too much of that cool aid. Although we are hearing murmurs about parents of certain high profile signees not being all that happy right now.
Well, especially when it seems they were outright lied to. Parents can't like that.
You’re trusting the coach with your kid.
Go Bruins!
Then again
We now have a documented example of how “Student Athlete’s parents” are often well taken care of at southern con. So who knows.
Well when you think about these recruits that just signed up by the time they red shirt the bowl ban will be over.
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
by The Voice of Reason on Jun 15, 2010 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Those who signed with the Trogans gambled and lost
Given the Bush and Mayo allegations, there was always a risk that sanctions would be awarded of the kind that were ultimately given. Frankly, I am surprised that they were as substantial as were awarded, because there was very little direct knowledge proved against USC. The lack of institutional control angle was used far more extensively than I expected. But for parents to rely on Kiffen’s biased opinion, when Kiffen had no control over the outcome, was just silly. What else was he going to say, we’re about to be hammered so don’t come here. It is clear to me that Kiffen’s $6 milliion contract was to compensate him for the risk that the program would be hammered. By the way, a statement of opinion about a future event is not an actionable fraud, and so Kiffy’s statement that nothings going to happen probably wasn’t legal fraud. That being said, I am sure the families are mad, and the players, like Seantrel, may ask to get out of LOI for that reason.
Agreed
The ‘students" and their parents knew exactly the content of USC’s "character. Talk about drinking the Koolaid, the egos of parents and athletes going to the dark side disregarded the SUC gamble for a perceived better chance at big $$$ in the NFL.
Perhaps I’m too cynical, but the parents certainly knew exactly the lay of the land, and the athletes just thought about the lay. (Do you think that Kiffin left the Tennessee “recruiter-girl” bonus in Knoxville/SC?).
The question for UCLA - is the team interested in athletes who took a walk on the darkside. Would such athletes be academically eligible at UCLA, and could they conform to the expectations and culture of the Bruins?
by C.T. in Boston on Jun 13, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Why Matt Billings of course.
Probably had his sign that said “work for food”. They told him that he didn’t even have to do that to get paid.
by LongtimeBru on Jun 13, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't look like Texas is a done deal either.
This is from the Houston Chronical
With the Big 12 splitting up, University of Texas officials confirmed Wednesday that there’s a meeting scheduled between Texas A&M and UT leaders today to discuss their potential courses of action. One insider described the entire situation as "extremely fluid" on Wednesday night, with several possible outcomes, and another said Texas and Texas A&M haven’t ruled out becoming members of the Southeastern Conference.
Sorry, meant to post this in the Pac-16 thread.
by LongtimeBru on Jun 13, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
No need to apologize
Just finished reading the PAC-15.5 thread and it was good to read your reference to the Chron again.
Kiffin Knew
Kiffin was part of the Bush problem. He was at $c when all this was going down, Ogre, too. He didn’t know what might happen, but being part of the trogan family, he knew they could get hit. Telling recruits not to worry was an all out lie! He SUCKS just like the school (?) he works for.
by Forever a Bruin on Jun 13, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
Professionally, Kiffin is in a great spot.
(Others probably said it before me)… Fat contract. Sanctions mean low or no expectations. Plenty of time to establish his own system, while under the cover of “dark clouds”. One day, (in a few years) this thing will pass. As long as his win-loss record stays above .500 he’ll emerge as "savior’ to the program… and if he does better than that.. he could be inline to be a future AD. That dude is gonna be fine. As for as Kiffin “lying” to recruits… the trogan family loves it. That’s all that matters to them. (Ok, I said I was gonna quit this topic… but I can’t resist).
hilarious
university of sanctioned scheaters seems intent on making this a sweet as possible for all of us, i love it.
the whole i lost my cell phone is a hoot too. we all know the cell records won’t be released, one because they made this up and even if true, releasing the cell records would prolly show who is paying for baxter’s phone…
Across The Face
Who's paying for Baxter's phone?
Isnn’t it someone in the tennis program? I tink that’s where SC hides that stuff.
When is SC going to hire a sports agent as its next AD and simply avoid all the middle men?
Bleeding powderkeg blue and gold for 55 years. Go Bruins!
What about TV??
I haven’t had time to read the full report, but is there anything in it that says southern cal can’t be on TV…
That was always a big one in the past. It essentially put the team out of sight and out of mind (of recruits et al.).
Do they at least lose the TV revenue, like does it all go to the opponent?
Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...
just found the answer...
No TV ban for the dirty, filthy cheats.
“Some time ago, we moved away from television bans because we felt that impacted sister institutions rather than the guilty party,” Division I vice president David Berst said
Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...
Times leaves sinking ship?
isn’t it interesting to see PlaSChke and SCimers — who were too busy to do any investigative journalism on Troy for the last year or two — now turn out to be appalled by the SCandals and want Mike Garrett to resign? Bet they wouldn’t have called for Cheat Pete to resign if he were still there. After all, like Nixon, he tells us he’s not lying, so of course we need to believe him.
I've been thinking the same thing.
especially with that Simers piece. It wasn’t that long ago that guy was falling all over Cheat Carroll. Now he is ready to point fingers?
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Ceasar Carroll?
I looked at U$C’s (Southern Con) blog & some of their Trojans (oops, Trogans) fplks have nicknamed Pete “Ceasar” because he was in total control & could do anything he wtd.
Cheat On!.
by longtimeBruinfan on Jun 15, 2010 9:25 PM PDT reply actions

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