[Update] Rahmatulla Out for College World Series
by BruinJD on Jun 15, 2010 2:12 PM PDT
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PrintBumped with Savage quotes (via Gold) below the fold. Tough news but we will have to cowboy up instead of feeling sorry for ourselves. GO BRUINS. - N
Tyler's 2 run bomb against Fullerton. Photo Credit: Carlos Delgado/UCLA Athletics
Jon Gold is reporting:
UCLA second baseman - and three-hole hitter - Tyler Rahmatulla suffered a broken right wrist in the team's post-game celebration on Sunday night, and will be out for the College World Series in Omaha.
UCLA's bracket is a tough one, with TCU, Florida and Florida State. The Bruins open with the Gators at 4 p.m. on Saturday.
Teams really need to rethink how they want to be celebrating after a victory. First, Kendry Morales breaks an ankle after an Angels' victory celebration and now this. This is obviously a blow, but hopefully our Bruins are able to bring back a championship despite this setback. Go Bruins!
UPDATE (N): Gold has comments from Savage who found out yesterday:
"I found out about it yesterday afternoon," UCLA head coach John Savage said on Tuesday. "It was bothering him, but I really didn't think it was much, to be quite honest. They X-rayed it, found out it was a broken wrist." [...]
"I just feel terrible for Tyler," Savage said of Rahmatulla, who was batting .328 with a team-leading 52 runs for the season. "I know the team feels really bad for him. We had yesterday off, we'll practice here in a bit and let everyone know it's another setback to deal with. We'll deal with it. We'll handle it."
This a tough blow concerning how Tyler was all locked in recent weeks. Savage will have to figure out ways to adjust, inspire and manage the team:
"We have options, but Tyler has hit third in 61 games," Savage said. "Who's gonna hit third? That's the bigger question. Offensively, we'll have to make some adjustments and put some people in. We were shocked. We have to have a day at least to get to it."
I am sure Ryan will have more on this. Hope Tyler gets better. Hopefully he will come back with an amazing junior year to lead us right back to Omaha. Meanwhile, it is up to his team-mates to rally and get our first win CWS. Time to cowboy up.
GO BRUINS.
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+1 "Need to rethink..."
For lots of reasons, Coach would never have tolerated that type of celebration.
sjh
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
This SUCKS! Like my dad would always yell, “it is all fun and games until somebody pokes out an eye” or in this case breaks a wrist. Now more than ever we need our stud pitchers to come up huge.
I was thinking of Kendry when they were doing that.
Hard to believe that we have had two incidents this year. I can’t ever remember anyone getting hurt like these two in all of my years of following sports.
I can't say that I remember it, but that isn't a suprise.
I forget a lot these days.
by LongtimeBru on Jun 15, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
2007 BCS Game
Remember this:
The Buckeyes got off to a fast start when receiver Ted Ginn Jr. returned the opening kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown, giving Ohio State a 7-0 lead only 16 seconds into the game. During the celebration following the return, Ginn was injured and would miss the remainder of the game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_BCS_National_Championship_Game
Dave Dravecky
Re-broke his injured left arm during Giants pennant celebration in ’89. Cancer was later found to have returned and his left arm was amputated sometime thereafter.
Tyler will really be a huge loss for the team.
The rest of the guys are really going to have to band together and turn it up a notch (if that’s possible). I would guess that Adrian Williams will be his replacement.
Terrible news
TR was locked in for the super regionals. He was probably our hottest hitter heading into Omaha. This sucks.
Hopefully Savage can channel Sciossia and overcome this loss.
I had a bad feeling
One of the announcers,, may have been Ventura, brought up the whole Kendry fiasco, and as he does am thinking to myself, I hope nothing stupid like that happens. Then i see the dog pile and the boys are jumping and falling, I am thinking, if nothing else someone is getting totally crushed under that ton of humanity how do they breathe? I feel bad for Tyler, he is going to miss playing in the CWS and that is a major loss for him and the team. I bet Savage rules out the dog pile celebration. It’s unfortunate, but I feel confident the team will rebound.
GO BRUINS!
only at ucla
i guess anaheim too, but who cares about mlb
A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil
This happens too often and needs to stop
Besides the Kendry Morales thing, the Padres’ Jake Peavy injured a rib during a pileup to clinch the playoffs. He tried to pitch through it, but was ineffective.
Staying in the Padres system, one of their top prospects, Tag Bozied tore a patellar tendon after a grand slam in a similar situation to Kendry. He was never the same.
I remember John Wettleland being injured in a pileup in the playoffs. Can’t remember if he was with the Yankees or Rangers then. Think it was NY.
And like Rahmatulla, Denny Hocking injured a wrist in a playoff pileup for the Twins.
I love my Bruins and I love baseball, but lord was this a stupid way to lose a locked-in player.
by insomniacslounge on Jun 15, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions
I AGREE THIS ONE'S ON THE COACH
after the ANGELS had their best hitter injured in a dog pile…now the BRUINS…
OUTLAW THE DOG PILE!…and my best wishes to Tyler Rahmatulla…he was fun to watch in the SUPERS…DANG!
by bruincheerleader on Jun 15, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
I blame Savage
He knew the game was over, and should have told his team to celebrate professionally for two reasons:
1. No one gets hurt
2. The goal is a championship, not reaching the CWS.
Celebrate professionally?
These are college kids. I saw bunch of series clinching games this past weekend and every team dogpiled. It is a little silly to blame Savage over this. This is a college game with 18-21 year old kids who just got us back into the world series. So they celebrated and a freak injury happened.
Instead of b!tching and whining about and blaming the coaches, let’s wish the kid luck and focus on the next game.
Don’t want to see any attacks on a manager and staff who just got us back to the freaking world series after more than 10 years. If anyone wants to lob opportune and petty attacks, they will have to do somewhere else. Thanks.
While I agree that blaming an individual coach isn't helpful
Being frustrated w/ the tradition of the dogpile seems reasonable to me.
by insomniacslounge on Jun 15, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That is fine
No problem getting upset with the entire culture of college baseball. That’s a whole different issue. However, specifically blaming Savage over this is ridiculous IMO.
Seriously
I think some of these people are just trying to save face after continuously doubting Savage the entire postseason. Now that we actually made it to the CWS, they have to deflect and find something about the man to bitch about, even if the thing they find has little to do with the coach.
Coach had 18-21 year old kids
and they didn’t do things like that.
They acted like they belonged in the winners circle.
It’s not just the risk of injury — although that ought to be enough to stop it.
I don’t blame Savage and we can’t look backward — but I do think it’s time for him to lead a culture change and learn a lesson from this.
sjh
Good point
I applaud Savage for the job he’s done with the Bruins. But they are not kids. They are adults, college students, and elite baseball players.
It is time for these stupid over-the-top celebrations to end. The time to celebrate is when you win it all. Until then, be humble and hungry.
If they're "adults"
Then they’re man enough to accept personal responsibility for their roles in injuring one of their teammates. That argument cuts both ways, and I didn’t see Coach Savage in that dogpile.
I generally agree with you on this 66
I think we will get there once we get more used to it as a program. I do think Savage is getting us there.
Coach's 18-21 year old kids were used to winning
Even winning a national title became expected and ordinary. this was the biggest win in at least 13 years for our baseball team. Its understandable that the kids got excited.
There is a first time for everything and Coach's teams had theirs
some of us were there, then, and Coach’s teams didn’t do these things.
Perhaps, because they measured success in terms of effort and not results.
I understand why the kids reacted the way they did when they did; I was on the game thread. And, more than one of us worried about injuries. If we were worried, so should they have worried.
As I said above, Savage has to use this as a teaching lesson so that the culture changes in baseball.
sjh
Get well, Tyler and GO BRUINS!
Sorry this happened. I heard the phrase, too. I said that I hoped no one was getting hurt. Tyler really helped us out. Now, we need to regroup and win one. Hopefully, #107.
by Forever a Bruin on Jun 15, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions
OT -- How cool is this?
On the 210, about a half hour out of Pasadena — the end of the journey from Houston.
Jen is driving.
Our car is a Wi-Fi hotspot, my Sprint card in a Cradlepoint router. We had a decent connection almost everywhere on the trip.
So, I can cruise BN and start to enjoy being home.
sjh
Noooooooooooooo!
My favorite MLB team is the Angels, and am obviously a UCLA baseball fan. How this does happen to one of the star hitters on both of my baseball teams?
All teams should start celebrating a little different from now on.
Slightly OT, but it looks like Rahmatullah may have received some divine help
It looks like there are five people in the front row (two sitting, three standing) who are praying.
I knew God was a Bruin.
This a lesson for everybody whoever plays a game
When UCLA lost to North Carolina State in the NCAA semis in, I think it was 1974, with a minute to go, we had likea 5 point lead and Tommy Curtis was dancing all over the place as he brought the ball down on offense. Dick Enberg was calling the game and he, naming Curtis, remarked in a disrespectful tone of voice about how it was too early to celebrate. Enberg’s comment was just being a journalist but it was also, since he called our games for a number of years, he had developed a profound admiration for Coach.
Like rushing the floor at Pauley or dogpiling at JRS, it was too early to celebrate.
huge bummer
When I saw some of the guys taking flying leaps onto the pile, I thought “oh jeeze, someone;s going to get hurt.” What a pointless bummer.
by RealisticBruinFan on Jun 15, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions
I hope this isn't true?
Someone very close to college baseball, that we know, said that our shortstop is hurt also. Does anyone know that for sure? We told him that the Angels SS, Aybar got hurt, but he said that it was UCLA’s SS. I hope he is wrong. Does anyone know?
by Forever a Bruin on Jun 15, 2010 9:17 PM PDT reply actions
How did sports make it this far?
With all the dog piles and home plate hops; why are these things happening in bunches now?
Nothing new there, Kapono
Go down to the courthouse. Every time a lawyer wins a motion, there’s a big dog pile on one side of the aisle. Or go to the shoe store and buy something. Big dog pile on the salesman by his collegues. It happens everywhere.
I disagree with the sentiment that this is a boys will be boys moment. I have never seen this anywhere until this year. Back before I was a geezer, there wasn’t much done on the field after a win. Watch the old films of Mazeroski’s homer in 1960, and all he wanted to do was to get off the field. Then there started to be a “vertical pile” – a big rugby scrum but everyone standing at home plate welcoming the guy who hit the homer to win the game. Now, it’s deemed desireable to have a dog pile, and that seems very contrived to me. I think every team manager or coach should have laid down the law after the business with the Angels. I put this on Savage, just as I put the contrived “over the wall” tradition on the coaches.
A coach is supposed to supervise every aspect of the team. Of course, no one would bother telling a basketball player how to put his socks on and how to tie his shoes…, no, wait. OK. I think Savage made a mistake here by not laying down the law in understandable terms.
Agreed. It's part of a coach's "what we do when we win" talk.
The problem is too many coaches (these days), cow-tow too much to youngsters, instead of leading youngsters. The speech is reiterated in practice, game prep, half-time. “Oh yes, gentlemen we will win, and we when do, no dog-piling, no rough-housing, nobody gets hurt ’cause we have even more winning to do! 1-2-3 Win!” Careful attention to detail, and establishing culture is a coach’s responsibility – aftermath celebrations included. Sadly, today, men who lead this way are called control freaks. Sadly, Coach Wooden woulda been laughed at by this generation of kid athletes today. That’s my take. (The physical image of our basketball team just now pops in my head, tat’s galore, non-grooming, and all. Yes, it’s related. Mental attidude. It ain’t as “spontaneous” as it seems.) Yuk.
U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight!
Hey Fox, back before you were a geezer, they didn't have sports, did they?
Wasn’t that just part of gettin’ dinner.
I have to agree that any coach that was aware of what happened to Kendry, should have had a talk with his guys and made damn sure that they understood the consequences of such actions.
I don’t even like the bumping of chests, stupid. And a pet peeve of mine is the hand slaps after someone makes(or misses – even dumber) a free throw. An absolute waste of time and energy. What’s this world coming to?
Post-free throw hand slaps: I think that should be a technical foul - delay of game or taunting or something
Why is it necessary to reaffirm team spirit after every free throw? I wonder what would happen if a defender stepped between the shooter and his buddy. Would the guy try to go through him to give the mandatory hand-slap and pick up a foul?
Let’s try it in baseball. Pitcher throws a strike. Everyone runs in to give him a hand slap. Pitcher throws a ball. Everyone runs in to give him another handslap. Etc.
It’s just dumb.
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