Preemptive Trogan Defense: ESPN’s Ted Miller Shills For A Wrist Slap On Southern Cal, Attacks Alabama
NCAA is supposed to come out with its much anticipated "investigations" report on perhaps the sleaziest athletic program in recent history of college sports. There is no doubt Trogan shills and lapdogs are going to be in overdrive next 48 hours trying to get their spin out on why their beloved football program shouldn't be hit with anything more than a wrist slap (and they will cry over that).
It looks like Ted Miller from tWWL (of course) is the first traditional media reporter out openly advocating for the NCAA to go on easy on the Trogans. How is Miller doing it? Well, Miller advances his Trogan defense by ... wait for it ... attacking Alabama:
More than a few fans and, unfortunately, a few journalist have written or talked about this case being a litmus test for NCAA enforcement equity: USC must get hit as hard as Alabama in 2002.
Utter rubbish.
Alabama received five years' probation, a two-year bowl ban and the loss of 21 scholarships over three years after it was found that Crimson Tide boosters paid players.
Boosters paid players. Again, boosters paid players. That's the ultimate sin in college sports because it provides a competitive advantage. Preventing pay-for-play is the chief reason the NCAA exists.
Which means, even in the worst-case scenario for the Trojans, the NCAA sanctions should -- and almost certainly will -- fall under the penalties Alabama earned.
Here's a guess that present infractions committee chair Paul Dee won't say the same about USC.
Miller than throws up four bullets from the findings in Alabama's case and then links back to an LA Times piece (ROFL), his own previous post and an article from CNNSI.com that provides nothing on the details of the allegations against the Trogans.
Miller hilariously blasts Alabama for "old-school cheating in its purest form" while conveniently overlooking what appears to be a systematic pattern of out of control rule breaking (allegedly) that has taken place in Southern Cal in recent years. He somehow omits to mention the fact that Southern Cal also also may fall under the category of repeat offender.
Apparently Alabama should have paid their players through agents funneling free houses to parents, hooking up its star receivers with thousands of dollars of free rent, and of course setting up players with Range Rovers from United States of China.
It is pretty amusing to see Miller trying so hard to minimize the pile of (alleged) corruption that has been building up for years and years. Of course everyone here and elsewhere have taken note of the list Menelaus compiled more than couple years ago. If he finds time to update that list, there will be lot more additions including but not limited to:
- Allegations of Tim Floyd of serving up cash to OJ Payo (which parties might have denied by ultimately conveniently led to Mike Garrett throwing Floyd under the bus in a transparent attempt to save the football program)
- Joe McKnight riding around his shiny SUV coming from United States of China (this allegation was not part of NCAA's original investigations]
- Pete Carroll employing a former NFL tactician' help in an arrangement that may have violated NCAA rules that prohibit consultants from coaching.
- Trogan assistant Ed Orgeron contacting several members of Tennessee's recruiting class after announcing he was leaving school to a position at Southern Cal. Tennessee is also looking into other potential violations involving Orgeron
- Sources from Rutgers hinting at tampering charges against the Trogan basketball program involving Mike Rosario
Those are just some of the allegations that have surfaced in recent years. There is of course so much more that we have chronicled over the years here on BN, while traditional media reporters have mostly looked the other way. There is also the stench Hello Kiffin left behind in Tennessee, which neither Kiffin nor the Trogan brass showed any shred of concern over. The bullets above doesn't even address the picture of a seedy culture involving drugs around the Trogan football program that has emerged in recent months. It doesn't include the recent outing of NFL's latest jerk Brian Cushing as drug cheater.
What is pathetic is you will have Miller and his colleagues work really hard to broad brush the (alleged) Trogan transgressions under the profile of Reggie Bush and overlook everything else. That is absurd given how this program has made many brazen and arrogant attempts to cut corners without showing a shred of remorse or a sense of accountability.
Make no mistake about it. NCAA's decision tomorrow is not going to be just about ending Southern Cal's cheating ways in the future. It is lot more than that. Spare us the lecture about beating those chumps on the field. We will get that done sooner or later. We have beaten those clowns when they had to play the by the rules and we will do it again. Considering Hello Kiffin's offense couldn't muster up more than 9 points against a Dorrell coached team, I am not all that worried about what he is doing and his mad rush to haul in recruits (before NCAA's decision come down).
What will matter tomorrow is whether the NCAA will hold Southern Cal accountable in a way that not only will ensure that it has to operate within the four corner of rules in the coming years, but also send the entire college athletics world a message that there is no benefit to building a program foundation through (alleged) cheating. The stained "success" Trogans have experienced has been through (allegedly) unbridled cheating.
While it didn't happen in that "old school way" which apparently would have enabled reporters like Miller to conclude them to be "cheaters," it certainly appeared hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars worth of improper benefits were directed towards Pom Pom program (with some going towards that joke of a basketball program). Doesn't matter if those benefits didn't come via "old school" channels. They did give the Trogans their "ultimate competitive advantage" not just against UCLA but against rest of the NCAA beyond the parameters of current riles.
What matters now is that not only the Trogans appeared to have benefits from those extra $ at the time, they continue to reap the rewards of performances of players like Bush, Jarrett et al today on the recruiting trail (not to mention there was allegation of recruiting improprieties directly involving Reggie Bush and Joe McKnight).
If NCAA doesn't bring down the hammer on Southern Cal and send a clear message that cheating in any form ("old school" or "new school") is unacceptable, it will send a clear cut message all across the country that it is open season for athletic program to pay up their players in "new ways."
If NCAA doesn't send that message they will officially become irrelevant as no one will have any reason to play within the rules. That - if NCAA proves to be officially impotent - is what we and rest of college football world will consider to be "utter rubbish."
GO BRUINS.
UPDATE (N): The guys over at Roll Bama Roll just destroyed Miller's BS "old school" nonsense:
Miller writes "Boosters paid players. Again, boosters paid players. That's the ultimate sin in college sports because it provides a competitive advantage. Preventing pay-for-play is the chief reason the NCAA exists." in his blasting of Alabama, and yet is curiously quiet over the fact that "pay-for-play" is clearly alive and well in LA. So what's the difference? Is it the fact that boosters were involved at Alabama while it was merely "agents" doing the dirty work in the USC case? Are the Trojans going to avoid an "Alabama Slammer" because us dumb ol' boys down hyah cheated old school while Southern Cal is on the cutting edge of pay for play?
Read rest of their take clowning Miller's reasoning that the Trogans shouldn't get hammered because of their "fresh approach" to cheating here. Any of Miller's subsequent takes in next few days shouldn't be taken seriously. At least for a while he will come across as a national joke just like another tWWL Trogan shill like ... SChilly Smith.
GO BRUINS.
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It's just another twist on kill the messenger
I assume there are exceptions. I assume that at least one trOJie thinks that the allegations are true, and that there is something terribly wrong at his school. I have never seen or heard that trOJie, but I assume he or she exists. Now that that is out of the way, I come to my point.
What Miller and all the rest of the trOJie shills are doing is nothing more than killing the messenger. The message it totally ignored. There is something wrong with the messenger, there is something wrong with his horse or car or whatever he used to bring the message, and there is something wrong with the writer of the message. The paper on which the message was written is bad. There is a typo on page three. There is a missing apostrophe – no, wait, that really is serious. Anyway, let’s forget about what really happened and deflect the focus anywhere else.
I’ll give the first trOJie excuse:
We’re being unfairly singled out, because this goes on everywhere.
Head coach versus booster
What’s more indicative of a lack of institutional control—some booster named Bubba handing emoluments to a player or the head coach slipping the cash to a student? To ask the question is to answer it.
by peggysue69 on Jun 3, 2010 5:51 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
It's getting really hard to drum up the proper hate for you guys
when you keep posting things like this.
If the results really do come out on friday, you think they’ll let us stop by and pick up that AP trophy, seeing as we’re in town and all?
Managing Editor/Chief Lackey-And The Valley Shook
Biggest joke in some time
I don’t think one USC fan could tell you who won the REAL NC in ‘04. I still remember the shirts that said, “3-Pete”. In would always say "don’t you mean 2.5 Pete?" That is , if you could go so far to actually count that as half of a Championship
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Jun 3, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions
If they are stripped of the '04 title...
… it’ll be the Oh-Pete.
I’m not really up on the allegations against SC, but aren’t they accused of having a booster giving benefits to the players (like houses and cars)? Isn’t that exactly what Alabama did (only with textbooks, and let’s face it, we didn’t know Bama players went to class so this could be seen as a step in the right direction)?
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
http://www.andthevalleyshook.com
Agents -
who allegedly had unfettered access throughout the Trogan athletic program. BTW if you guys are wondering why we call these guys Trogans, here is the explanation.
I prefer the Troylets, which was popular when I was on campus. (We used to flush them.)
BTW, Nestor, what does tWWL stand for?
Bleeding powderkeg blue and gold for 55 years. Go Bruins!
"the worldwide leader"
in spinning for the east coast and trogans.
Oh, there are too many allegations to fit into a comment
The main part of the Bush case – money and benefits from a wanna-be agent to the Bush family.\
SC Basketball – The head coach gives cash to a committed recruit (Mayo), using a go-between whose previous history with USC basketball had gotten the program put on probation, as well as a trogan player suspended
There’s a whole lot more of shadyness that we have talked about over the years; some of it violating NCAA rules, others surprisingly either not thought violations or not punished by the NCAA (I’m still surprised over ‘free rent’ Jarett. There are so many cans of worms that the NCAA opened by allowing that to go on).
formerly bruinhoo
You can hate us on the weekend if we meet.
Otherwise, it’s actually a bit comforting that respected programs across the country are realizing the BS we’ve been living with for decades.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Ted Miller has a point!
Afterall Joe McNight perfectly explained that the SUV belongs to his baby mama boss. You guys are just too bitter and jealous about united state china success. I agree with Trogans recent recruit; NCAA should only take some losses away. So may be by tomorrow USuC will earn a phantom third consecutive chamionship.
MEDIA BIAS TOWARDS USC...
they feel that USC and only the popped trojans are the REAL
by bruincheerleader on Jun 3, 2010 7:27 AM PDT reply actions
cheating is cheating
Southern Cal is guilty and should be penalized appropiately! Miller is a tool…
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's"
John Wooden.....
I have been saying this for some time
The booster rule and the rule that encompasses agents prevent the same thing.
NCAA wants to ensure a level playing field. Players who are paid BENEFIT the institution they play for. Neither booster nor agent are officially connected to the university. However, the policy behind the rule stays the same.
The $uc* argument, amongst others, goes after the booster/agent relationship. That agent → player = no violation. However, if we are to believe this, then any school or booster could establish a proxy (unconnected with the school) as an agent and thus skirt the rules. Also, a university may turn a blind eye, as the saying goes, to such an arrangement of agent pays player and thus the university receives a benefit again. Another benefit is to become known as a school that will turn a blind eye on such agent → player arrangements thereby getting more of the talent that demands to be paid.
The logic of the booster/agent arrangement being different is a false distinction. Boosters should be no more culpable than agents merely because their motives are different. To the university, motive is irrelevant: they have to insure that both arrangements do not taint their program. This is what $uc* allegedly failed to do.
So this article by Miller is a simplistic, pro-$uc* article. He’s throwing it out there in the unlikely event the NCAA wants to give up monitoring schools for cheating and slaps $uc* on the wrist. It’s not going to happen and there are lots of reasons that lead me to believe that the punishment will be substantial at the very least.
EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM
Refresh my recollection
Was it bu$h who had a summer job working for an agent? Who just happened to turn out to be the agent who bu$h signed with?
Assume that’s true. Would that be a violation of the ncaa rules? In the law biz, anything that even remotely hints at a suggestion of a possibility of perhaps maybe an impropriety is something you just can’t do. And if you get caught doing it, even probably innocently, there are consequences. (I remember reading a case about an associate who signed an appellate brief, then left the firm, and was still sanctioned for not showing up for the oral argument.) But just$c’s “compliance” office and staff can’t seem to see what its star players are doing, or where they’re working.
But it’s still all good. It was all boosters. No one connected with the school knew anything about it.
And just$c and its political arm (the ncaa) and its propaganda arms (the fishwrap and bspn) wonder why they are collectively held in such utter contempt by the civilized world.
Mike Ornstein
The book ‘Tarnished Heisman’ documents plenty of extra benefits that Bush received from Ornstein on top of what he received from the would be agents Micheals and Lake.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Oh, absolutely we were...
Coupled with the dread “repeat violator” tag. Hmmm…sound familiar to anything across town?
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 3, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That wasn't mentioned in the article...
lol how convenient
Repeat Violator+Lack of Institutional Control+Major Infraction
= Bend over, spread ’em and get a buttful of sunshine
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 3, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Keep in mind the Basketball angle to the NCAA's findings
Whether it be because the NCAA doesn’t want to completely kill the supposed golden goose, or because Tim Floyd was an especially sloppy cheater, SC basketball is going to get hit hard by the COI. On the BBall angle, Cal got nailed in the mid 1990’s for a similar situation (Coach paid the family of one of his players). Cal Basketball was placed on 3 years probation, lost 2 scholarships/year for 2 years, as well as retroactively forfeiting the games which the player participated. In Cal’s case, it was a first offense, with the facts presented leading the COI to believe that the athletic department at Berkeley could not have known of the coach’s (Bozeman) conduct.
Here, the coach paid the representative of a player (to be). The SC athletic department knew of the relationship between the rep and the player, and that the rep was tainted – in fact, he had gotten the same SC program and one of its players in trouble earlier for providing compensation to a player.
formerly bruinhoo
A note on the above Cal (Bozeman/Gardner) payoff
Interestingly, in that case, the player (Jelani Gardner) claimed not to be aware that his parents were receiving financial benefits based upon his collegiate play, as did the school’s athletic department. Though the Committee on Infractions seemingly believed both the player and the greater AD’s ignorance of the arrangement, the NCAA still came down hard on the program.
formerly bruinhoo
I genuinely hope the Trojans get slammed
Not because I care about what happens to USC, per se. But because we’ve been listening to Tuscaloosans whine about how the NCAA is “out to get Bama” for many, many years now. If USC gets away with a slap on the wrist compared to what happened to the Tide, that will just be fuel for their fire.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Jun 3, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions

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