ESPN's Jay Bilas tries to drag Coach into Trogan/Bush mess via Sam Gilbert
by BigKahunaMan on Jul 1, 2010 11:03 AM PDT
Email
Print
Somewhat appropriately hiding behind a subscription wall at the evil 4-letter, Jay Bilas just threw up a blog post (which I won't dignify with a link) dragging Coach Wooden into the Trogan/Bush penalty fiasco by dredging up every Bruin hater's favorite story: Sam Gilbert. His points, such as they are:
-Because the "agent" who gave Bush all his benefits is a convicted felon who's "never had a real job" and tried to profit off the whole thing by writing a book, he's not credible. Worse still, when the NCAA interviewed him, USC's lawyers didn't get to sit in on it! The horror.
-Tim Floyd wasn't found "guilty" of anything in the OJ Mayo part of the report, so the evidence there is even FLIMSIER.
-Since the Trogans got nailed for not knowing everything there is to know about their own program, the same should go for Calhoun, Calamari, and of course Coach Wooden. Why, you ask? Because apparently if Coach could kick Bill Walton off the team for sporting long hair, he could kick anyone off the team for taking benefits from Sam Gilbert and ban Gilbert from being around the program.
Our second-favorite Dukie apologist tries to cover himself by saying he isn't willing to call Coach a cheater, but the standards need to be applied evenly.
Pardon me while I laugh myself silly. As Fox said in my original fanshot; if Bilas was so worked up about this, why didn't he say it while Coach was still with us?
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some slime to clean off my monitor.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
21 comments
|
2 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Disgraceful analysis and timing
I assumed Bilas was above stooping to this gutter trash just for hits. I also assumed that his law degree would provide him with the analytical tools necessary to avoid regurgitating worn out and unsupported third-hand gossip and innuendo. Also, no mention of the applicable NCAA rules in place during the Wooden years? Nice job hack.
After reading this crap along with the spewings of ESPN’s USC PAC 10 blogger Ted Miller, it is pretty clear that the Heritgage Hall PR machine has successfully infiltrated the WWL.
There is always a ghostwriter behind a "piece" like this
Not hard to figure out who actually wrote this for Jay.
Since Gilbert was also a Trogan football fan
And what he did was uncited and unproven, but is taken to its worst possible conclusion by Bilas, I say we extend the punishment on their football program. Bowl ban for 10 years. No scholarships for 15 years.
Why does no one mention this?
The idiots in the MSM are falling all over themselves to talk about how “Wooden cheated with Sam Gilbert” yet no one ever mentions that ol’ Sam was a big-time U$C football fan, who engaged in the same behavior with U$C football players. So, if everyone wants to strip UCLA of its titles because of Sam, shouldn’t they do the same to the trOJans during the same time?
Oh wait, that’s right: NCAA rules didn’t prevent Sam from spending time with boosters. But hey, if you need a quick headline, apply 2010 NCAA rules to situations from the 1960s and 1970s. Never mind that, at the time, it was within NCAA parameters.
Bilas is such a tool.
Do tell
I’m curious as to where the Gilbert/SUC connection comes from? I think we need to develop this.
EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM
by Bruins102NCAA on Jul 2, 2010 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe it came out when the first wetzel slime piece came out
With whoever it was that authored that brilliant response. The reason I believe it would be hard to develop it is because even the Gilbert smears against Wooden are based upon innuendo, so it’d be hard to believe that there is anything more solid documenting the ties to SUC. However, lack of evidence and disproven conjecture don’t stop trogans from getting all butthurt over it, so I see no reason why it’s not equally valid to smear the trogans with Gilbert as well.
That’s going to be my response every time I hear those allegations: Remind them that whatever they think our basketball program was gaining from Gilbert, so was SUC football, and assert that as fact, because I’ve got just as much evidence as they do.
Tydides - you are so right.
Their sanctions aren’t enough.
by Forever a Bruin on Jul 1, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
They say a drowning man will clutch at straws.
Good to know SC/BSPN are drowning.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
*$c spin from the mouth of a tool
I can understand the mentality of the constant whining and spin from *$c to criticize their punishment. It’s what all children, immature people, and criminals do when they are caught.
But it is puzzling why someone like Bilas, who alleges to be a legitimate member of the media, is positioning himself as a mouthpiece for this garbage. The illogical fallacies and the blatant partiality in his piece have permanently ruined his credibility and have cost him any integrity he had as a professional “analyst”.
I could understand you being a Duke shill, Jay, but this is different. Mr Reilly is looking for you now. Meanwhile, none of the rest of us will care about what you say ever again. Say goodbye to any credibility you ever had.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
He is still bitter apparently
For not being recruited by UCLA even though he is from Palos Verdes. It’s the same reason credit card thief Dough Gottlieb takes cheap shots against the Bruins every chance he gets from his tWWL platform.
"won't dignify with a link"
about sums up this garbage
ESPN's West Coast Golden Shower...
…Can’t be impugned. Has got to throw out 25 year old unsubstantiated bulltrojan to prop up their WC connection.
Straight out of Bristol to South Central
Bilas: A Renaissance Man
A true SoCal type of Guy:
A member of the Screen Actors’ Guild since 1987, Bilas has appeared in national television commercials (playing the fairy princess on an after school special, and the love-to-hate side kick in the TNT short-lived comedy “Douchebag and Me.” He played the ever-angry backstabbing Douchebag, with the trademark line: “Why does everyone hate me?” and the feature-length movie “I Come in Peace” (aka “Dark Angel,” and aka “Serious Tax Dodge.”) Critics panned the ‘movie’ by all its names, one calling it “…akin to 20 pounds of bull-trojan”. In 1990, Bilas also appeared in an episode of the TV series “The White Shadow.” (What exactly does ‘appeared’ mean? Was he playing himself like Stu Nahan plays himself?)
Bilas received his law degree and maintains a litigation practice where he successfully defended the costume business against trademark and copyright claims brought by owners of the popular children’s television character, Barney the Dinosaur. He was also an intern for Robert Shaprio and Robert Kardasian during the OJ “USC” Simpson trial, with whom he developed a friendship that he leveraged into an eventual introduction to soon to be Heisman-stripped football player Reggie Kardasian, with whom he is now a Tweet buddy.
It seems to me that during the Wooden years everyone wanted to take UCLA down.
And I’m sure that if there was any real evidence of infractions, other schools would have been all over it and would have reported it. It’s not like we were an invisible program! I am also sure the NCAA would have investigated. I know that later on, post-Wooden era, such did occur and minor violations were found. However, are these people serious in that others wouldn’t have been watching and reporting, if there was anything to report?
Go Bruins!
you would think
at least one player would have come out and talked about it if something dirty was taking place? they all loved and respected the man!
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's"
John Wooden.....
I tend to like Bilas
I think he is the only one on the network whose opinions on basketball are worthwhile. He understands what it is like to be a basketball blueblood without fawning over Duke specifically, and his actual analysis of the nuances of the game seem pretty good. He is a talking head who gets by with analysis rather than grandstanding, gimmicks, catchphrases and the like.
So, I am particularly disappointed by hearing that his name is attached to this drivel.
Bilas' Revisionist History...
I firmly believe, and will always believe that Coach, while he may have been distantly aware of Gilbert’s influence, always worked hard to separate his players from Gilbert and the other boosters. Unfortunately, he ran into interference from higher ups in athletic administration and advancement who were more worried about losing donations than protecting the program.
$C has always had a culture of corruption and I believe that the Bush and Mayo cases are just the tip of the iceberg.
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")
When I hear about Coach and cheating, I just remember the Walton incident
Walton balked at getting a haircut before the first practice. Coach told him he didn’t have to get a haircut, but his teammates would certainly miss him. Walton said he ran to his bike, pedaled into the Village and found a barber and sprinted back to be on time, because he truly believed he would not have been on the team.
So we have a guy who would kick the best player in the country off his team for not getting a haircut, and we’re supposed to think he went along with pay-offs to players? That doesnt’ pass the smell test, Bilas. If you had any sense of the character of Coach, you would know that.
by Fox 71 on Jul 2, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen, Fox.
Well said.
I’ve been re-reading Coach’s great devotional, “One on One” and this quote is particularly applicable…" At the beginning of each season I would give my players a letter. Part of it usually went like this: ’ Remember that you represent others who are responsible for you as well as yourself and your personal appearance and conduct should not bring discredit in any way upon yourself or upon whom you represent. "
Does that sound like someone who would condone Gilbert?
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")
Sure it would, if you're a cynical U$C...
…when you live by gutter rules you can’t imagine that anyone could have loftier morals, and ways of perceiving life.
Our trying to imagine how U$Cers see the work is well beyond normal cognitive abilities. Suffice it to say, they have no source for emblamatic personages, they care only about the football wins as their benchmark for comparison of their ‘university’ and its sports programs, as their fall back position for any comparison.
by C.T. in Boston on Jul 4, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
