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Stained Trogan: Cheatey Petey Getting Clowned & Lampooned By The National Media

Well it looks like Cheatey Petey is finally getting the taste of what it is like to operate in a media landscape which is not dominated by Trojan PR flacks. Petey is having a rough time outside Los Angeles beyond the sphere of Heritage Hall's influence.It is not working out too well for him when "reporters" are not cutting and pasting the BS coming out of his mouth or narcissistic website pimping his "Humanitarian" contributions to the society. According to Mike Florio of NBC's Pro Football Talk so far Petey's "book" tour has been a total bust:

Pete Carroll is angling for maximum publicity this week.  He's on a book tour, hawking Win Forever . . . And Then Just Ignore It When They Take Those Wins Away After Evidence Of Cheating Emerges (a/k/a Cheat Forever).  And he's getting plenty of publicity, but surely not the kind he wanted.

Selling a book requires the author to submit to interviews, and since Carroll isn't carrying around a ventriloquist dummy that bears a curious resemblance to Jim Gray, Carroll doesn't get to pick the questions.  So the interviews inevitably will include more than a queries regarding the strong sanctions levied against his former employer, USC, and Carroll's role in the situation.

It started Monday, when the only thing anyone cared about regarding Carroll's interview with the Associated Press was his acknowledgment that he "feel[s] responsible" for the situation in which the Trojans now find themselves.  Tonight, the HBO-subscribing world will be able to watch for themselves as Andrea Kremer of Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel interviews Carroll, whose book gets only a passing mention amid a barrage of evidence and arguments indicating that Carroll can't run or hide from the fact that he knew or should have known about Reggie Bush getting paid -- and that Carroll can't credibly pretend he didn't barge his way out of the party in front of the women, the children, and Eric the Clown when it appeared that the NCAA was preparing to burn the place down.

Ooof. As mentioned, Petey appeared on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel tonight with Andrea Kremer, which apparently was kind of a disaster. More on that freakshow after the jump.

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During his appearance Petey threw Reggie Bush under the bus and then offered up weak excuses, which Florio charitably described as "frickin' lame":

Carroll acknowledges that, when it comes to Bush receiving money and other things of value, Bush is likely guilty.

Though Carroll said he isn't mad at Reggie, Carroll had this to say when asked whether he thinks Bush took money:  "I don't know.  Something happened.  Something happened in there.  There's too much stuff. . . .  There's a house and there's a lot of things going on."

Still, Carroll insists that he didn't know about Bush receiving cash or other things of value from would-be agents, at one point suggesting that the compliance department (which per Carroll had one employee at the time) was overmatched.  For example, when Bush showed up with a new "tricked out" Chevy and was required to fill out paperwork, he failed to complete the portion of the form regarding how it was purchased -- and no one followed up on the omission.

As to the fact that Bush's parents moved into a new house after being evicted from their last one, Carroll offered up an analogy that, to be somewhat kind, we'll merely call "frickin' lame."

"When you were growing up, Andrea, did you have any idea of your parents' mortgage situation?" Carroll asked.  "Think about it.  None of us do.  I couldn't tell you now how my mom and dad paid for our house."  (Maybe they were cooking meth.)

I really hope someone can share the low lights. It sounds almost as good as the classic commercials on SNL.

GO BRUINS.

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I don’t have one either, simply LMAO!!

by AllIHadz240s on Jul 14, 2010 7:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

ROFL

Just posted it. Mike Florio is epic. It is going to be awesome to see Florio shred this clown in next 3 years.

by Nestor on Jul 14, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pompous ass AND a complete moron

He insults the intelligence of his desired national audience with that garbage. Any kid growing up in a family with financial issues severe enough to be evicted from their home knows what is going on. Even with a stable living situation the kids know what the money situation is like. The only kids that aren’t absolutely conscious of it are the ones who are spoiled beyond belief with everything they ever wanted, except their parents’ attention. Maybe Chetey wasn’t loved?

by Chris09 on Jul 14, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

SNL should do a parody on the $C sanctions...

like when Isaiah Mustafa (the Old Spice commercial guy if you don’t know his real name) did a parody on LeBron James’ “The Decision” 1 hr. special.

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden

by firstto100 on Jul 14, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's the link...

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden

by firstto100 on Jul 14, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRZICdXl6k

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden

by firstto100 on Jul 14, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Steve Carrell and Paul Rudd did a hilarious parody of the LeBron decision during the ESPYs. It was definitely the highlight of the show.

by turs12 on Jul 15, 2010 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone going to his "book signings"?

In my area of Orange County, you not only need to have a book in your hand but you have to show the receipt to get his signature. Who wants the book or his signature? Cheat On, Petey! I’d like to go just to harass him but I know they would kick me out. What an arrogant jacka—. Chris 09 you are right – pompous ass + moron = Cheatey Petey.

by Forever a Bruin on Jul 14, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Only one person needs to do this.....

buy a copy of his book (he only gets a buck or two for a single book). Take the book jacket off of it and put it on Tarnished Heisman. Take Tarnished Heisman (with the Win Forever book jacket) and the receipt to the book signing. Get Pete to sign Tarnished Heisman on the title page. Record the whole event and post it on youtube. Then sell the book to a UCLA fan and give the money to a favorite charity in the name of Coach Wooden.

by MOlson on Jul 14, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

! ! ! ! !

BRILLIANT!

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 15, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

MOlson, I am glad you are a Bruin

If you turned your talents to crime, you would make the world forget all about Lex Luthor. I can only echo what my brother Mexi says – Brilliant.

by Fox 71 on Jul 15, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Showtime

I am in North Hollywood at a friend’s home. HBO Real Sports is on at 9 p.m.

Management ought to set up a thread. This could be a real classic.

by peggysue69 on Jul 14, 2010 8:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Starting off

The HBO piece starts of the 2 year old Lloyd Lake interview by Bernard Goldberg. Sort of a prelude to Pete’s song and dance.

According to Lake, the idea for the sports agency was Bush’s stepfather, an ex-security guard. The Bushes are grifters (as was Lake).

by peggysue69 on Jul 14, 2010 9:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm watching it now, and having WAY too much fun.

This is PRICELESS.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Q: "How did this happen on your watch?"

A: “We just didn’t have the awareness. I wish I had the awareness then that I have now.”

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

God I wish I had HBO

hopefully it goes up on their website or something. Really appreciate hearing your favorite parts. Keep em coming!

by Chris09 on Jul 14, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

PC: "You saw the car? It was a CHEVY!"

Q: “…But you saw the car. You knew about it.”

A: “They worked it out. there’s a process!”

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

A "collectible" chevy by some crowds

and didn’t it have $15k in aftermarket modifications or something? C’mon Cheatey. Probably had $3000 wheels, a $5000 stereo that pete could here in his office all the way from the parking lot. Deny on! Moron.

by Chris09 on Jul 14, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pete has a point

It WAS a Chevy, not a Land Rover or anything.

"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09

by Blue Me on Jul 15, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lt. Walters: This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth. Perhaps we should shoot him.

1986 – Ruthless People

by OldSage on Jul 15, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The "process" was.....

not hard to gt this past the ONE compliance guy.

I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")

by BlueWave on Jul 15, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

PC: "They had one person in the compliance office. Now there's seven,a fter the fact."

Andrea Kremer: “But by you saying there was one person, that goes more to lack of institutional control.”

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

AK: But did you want to know, or did you turn a blind eye?"

PC: “Of course you do. … Compliance is your whole life in college sports.”

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep. A little bit paraphrased, but ABSOLUTELY.

“Compliance is your whole life…” MY GOD!!!

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, guys, I'd copy more, but I'm LAUGHING TOO HARD!!!

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Q: What role did the investigation play?

A: None at all.

Q: But how can you say that?

A: Because I’d been living with it for 5 years. …

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Shocked, disappointed

At one point Kraemer asked Peter if he was mad at Bush. Petet refuses to say he is mad at Bush.

Believable?

Not at all.

by peggysue69 on Jul 14, 2010 9:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Uh, Peter not Petet

And something else—he isn’t mad. He has cut innumerable players over the decades for lesser misconduct.

by peggysue69 on Jul 14, 2010 10:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, sort of like....

Petey saying, "Yeah, come on over Lendale, you can play for the Seahawks. " :)

I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")

by BlueWave on Jul 15, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

During a clip at Seahwaks facilities: "I'm sure glad I had all those awesome ideas today..."

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 14, 2010 9:41 PM PDT reply actions  

My favorite quote from the pathological liar regarding wins after Bush became ineligible...

“They all happened,” Carroll said. “Every one of them happened. Every one of those games, every one of those runs, every one of those finishes to the season, every one of those championship matchups, all those kids did all that stuff.”

NO THEY DIDN’T A**HOLE!! You can pretend all you want, but they are not recognized as victories by the NCAA anymore. You need a psychiatrist to help you get over your delusions.

by Chicago Bruin on Jul 14, 2010 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

rofl + 10000000000

yup, the more he fights it, the more retarded he looks. FIGHT ON PETEY!!

by Bruin'96 on Jul 14, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is their fallback line from here on out.

They will pretend those wins were not vacated because, well “I was there.” And, “We won those games.”

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 14, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate how people try to back the Trogans by saying, "Well, Bush taking $$$ didn't make them a better team, that's not cheating."

By taking the $$$, Bush was ineligible, so by playing him ,they DID cheat.

That means our losing streak to $C ended @ 5, because Bush was ineligible from Dec. ’04-2005.

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden

by firstto100 on Jul 14, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. Those Plays Happened. They Were Real.

And every dollar a pick-pocket takes is a Real Dollar. It exists. You can spend it.
But a pick pocket doesn’t deserve to have that dollar – it belongs to someone else.

Reggie Bush did not deserve to play College Football when he was getting paid.
College athletes are amateurs. That playing field belongs to them. He “stole”
opportunities from them (and those opportunities would likely have translated into
higher salaries for them)

by KnudsenRockne on Jul 15, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

This:

“Carroll can’t credibly pretend he didn’t barge his way out of the party in front of the women, the children, and Eric the Clown when it appeared that the NCAA was preparing to burn the place down.”

Best. Seinfeld Reference. Ever.

by Cade McAdverb on Jul 14, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

This definitely beats the schadenfreude

I feel from seeing the universal criticism LeBron has been receiving.

by Jyaan on Jul 15, 2010 12:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Just Too Good!!

Love it!

Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Jul 15, 2010 4:24 AM PDT reply actions  

God Bless HBO, folks.

The OCR (of all media entities) put up some transcribed excerpts (emphasis added):

Andrea Kremer: "Reggie drives a pickup truck. Now, all of a sudden, in his sophomore year, he’s driving this supped-up, bigger time–"

Pete Carroll: "Have you ever seen the car?"

Kremer: "Yeah. So, you saw — you saw him in the car."

Carroll: "It was a Chevy."

Kremer: "Did you ever ask him about it, though? Did you ever ask him where he got the money for it?"

Carroll: "I think I could recall kidding him about the kind of car he … chose to buy, at the time. … It was kind of an old-fashioned, ‘nice-looking’ car."

Kremer: "But the bottom line is still, how did he get it?"

Carroll: "That was all worked out. They took care of that. There’s a process that the school has to go through to meet compliance standards. And they did that. They did it."

And, it gets better:

Kremer: "Did you have any idea about how Reggie Bush’s parents were living?"

Carroll: "Of course not. When you are growing up, Andrea, did you have any idea of your parents’ mortgage situation? Think about it. None of us knew. We don’t know. I couldn’t tell you now how my mom and dad paid for their house."

Kremer: "But this is your best player with the most to lose."

Carroll: "It’s easy for you to ask these questions in this manner right now. Matt Leinart was our best player. He was the Heisman Trophy winner. This was Reggie just emerging. He started for the first time regularly his junior year. He was sharing time. He was another one of the guys."

Voice-over: But Bush wasn’t another one of the guys. Even in his sophomore year when the NCAA says he started receiving gifts from sports agents, USC’s own media guide called him "college football’s most exciting player." Bush’s success should’ve led USC to heighten its compliance efforts, and as far as the NCAA was concerned, that never happened.

Kremer: "Did you wanna know? Did you think you turned a blind eye to anything?"

Carroll: "No, you have to want to know because that’s what the world is all about. Compliance runs your life in college sports. You screw it up, you lose it. "

HT to Andrea Kremer for doing a very professional job in the interview. No snark, questions flawed logic, and sues quotes and facts to pose the questions. Bravo, Ms. Kremer.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 15, 2010 7:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Here's the link.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 15, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's "uses" quotes.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jul 15, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

What does TROGAN refer too?

This has been bugging me for the longest time. Can someone please tell me what the slang term “trogan” is referencing? Is it just funny because we’re misspelling trojan? Is it making fun of some lame USC alum? Like is Joe Rogan a former trojan? Or is it something completely random?

I don’t get it. I’m sure it’s something super simple and I’m just missing it for some reason. Please reply if you know. This has been bugging me for months?

by rockerhud on Jul 15, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

p.s.

sorry. i know this is way off topic. But ‘trogan’ is in the title for this post, so I figured it’s my best opportunity to ask.

by rockerhud on Jul 15, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check

the “BN Lexicon” linked on the left side of this blog.

by Nestor on Jul 15, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trogan....

Some of the more web-savvy guys on here can find the link, but “Trogan” refers to a Tweet that an $C recruit posted recently. He said something like, “I’m thrilled to be a ‘Trogan’”. He should fit right in. :)

I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")

by BlueWave on Jul 15, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

He tweeted it twice actually

so I’m sure he can’t wait to graducate and be a trogan for life.

by Chris09 on Jul 15, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why did HBO focus only on Bush?

I worked the night shift last night so I just watched the entire interview this morning. Why did HBO focus just on the Bush stuff? Why did they not ask Cheat Peril about:

1. illegally hiring the extra coach.

2. Joe McKnight (especially since he already knew the NCAA was watching.

3. the multitude of $C players that have been arrested during Cheat’s watch.

Overall, I don’t think HBO was particularly aggressive, although the preceding segment with Lloyd Lake was excellent.

by Chicago Bruin on Jul 15, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

My answer

Kremer had only so many minutes for the Carroll interview because they set up Andrea’s brutal interrogation with Bernie Goldberg’s outstanding piece on Lloyd Lake which is 2 years old. Using the Goldberg-Lake interview was a good idea because many viewers did not remember or know about the house, trips and car doo-wah-diddy.

To cover it in depth and make Peter the Cheater really sweat would take a full hour. Can you see guys like Humble Gumble (the name he was teased with when he was at KNBC here in L.A.) and Goldberg hounding Mike Garrett and that illegal coach consultant.

In my view—give Kremer credit—she got the interview and made his answers the story. And it was always—who-what-when-where and why.

by peggysue69 on Jul 15, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

That refernce to Eric the Clown is priceless. Here’s petey when he realizes trouble is coming for the trogans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueh_1PeJhaQ&feature=related

HA HA HA

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Jul 15, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the post. It has been a long day and I needed the laugh!!

So, the analogy is that the clown is Mike Garrett, the old lady is President Sample, and the kids are trogan football players (e.g., Mark Sanchez)?

by Chicago Bruin on Jul 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trogans say:

We didn’t obey the rules. That’s different from cheating. Can someone please explain the difference?

by Forever a Bruin on Jul 16, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

If you were a trogan, no explanation would be necessary.

But you are a Bruin, so no amount of verbiage can possibly explain how something can be completely true and completely false at the same time.

(Hint – if you want to try to understand it, take heavy mind-altering drugs, and hit yourself over the head with a board for about three days. Take an arrogance pill, and read Cheatie Petie’s new book “An Intro to Douchebaggery”. Then you might understand things the way a trogan does.)

by Fox 71 on Jul 16, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um...

…From the time I was in about 5th grade, yes, we knew my parents had a mortgage loan on our home, that they paid out of their salaries. We knew that we lived in a house that they could afford to pay for, out of their salaries. We had friends who lived in bigger homes, and we knew their parents had a bigger mortgage than ours, and their parents earned more money, so they could make those bigger house payments. We had friends who had smaller homes, their mortgages were lower, and they usually made less money at their jobs. When my Dad was injured at work, my mom started working more hours to—guess what Cheatie?— make sure their mortgage got paid.

This was not rarified knowledge, nor was it mysterious. It is a basic fact of normal, everyday economic life in our culture.

So completely, utterly absurd, Cheatie, really.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Jul 16, 2010 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

And that's Cheatie's reality, Bruingirl

He lives in a world of absurdity. Isaiah observed this phenomenon when he said “Woe unto you who call good evil and evil good.” (I believe that’s Isaiah 6:20.) People like Cheatie have always been around. Once in a while you would like to see them get caught, and once in a while they do get caught. But they always fit the same mold. They re-write history, which is simply a lie, of course. “I had no idea about any of this stuff.” Then they quote the lie as historical fact: “See, I never had any idea about any of this stuff.” That paradigm will never leave us.

by Fox 71 on Jul 17, 2010 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

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