LA Times Gets Caught With Fabricating UCLA Player's Comments Re. Coach (And Gilbert)
by Nestor on Jul 2, 2010 3:46 PM PDT
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PrintWell looky here. From "for the record" section of the Trojan Times:
John Wooden obituary: The obituary on John Wooden that ran in Section A on June 5 and in a commemorative section June 13 included information attributed to former UCLA basketball player Andy Hill regarding controversial booster Sam Gilbert. The article reported that Hill had told The Times that former team trainer Elvin "Ducky" Drake was something of a watchdog for the team, and that Drake had apparently missed what was going on with Gilbert. Hill says that he did not discuss that with the reporter and that Drake would not have been in a position to do anything to detect Gilbert's involvement or stop Gilbert from any inappropriate action.
This was of course separate from the repackaged smear laiden article Duffresne wrote withing 72 hours of Coach's passing. What is basically the common thread among these smear and hatchet jobs coming from the LA Times is that there is nothing reliable about the quotes we usually read from the hatchet jobs on Coach Wooden.
Ultimately this is what it comes down to. Lot of these clowns are throwing up quotes and inuendos to help orchestrate attacks on Coach in desperate attempts to come up with a faux moral equivalence to justify the shady program over there. Yet when one actually digs into what took place during those days they cannot come up with anything to show that corners were being cut within the NCAA rules that were existence during those days.
If LA Times actually did due diligence they would haverun an entire special section on "for the record" to deal with all the hackish attacks and misinformation they have advanced at the expense of UCLA athletics over the years. The above reference little nugget sticks out as barely the tip of an enormous iceberg of Trojan pimping journalism FAIL.
GO BRUINS.
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It's interesting that...
The best they can come up with are innuendos from 35 years ago. Sad.
I am so glad I canceled our subscription to the Times fishwrap a few years ago.
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
(Formerly "HoozierDaddy")
The Wire is awesome right!
Totally apt to this situation. The subtext of the whole season is you’ve seen 4 seasons of amazing news worthy stories that no one’s been covering and the lazy journalist has to make stuff up.
LA Times completely whiffs on the USC/Bush scandal and instead of reforming and doing actual reporting (they’ve had plenty of time to catch up to yahoo right?) they write sourceless/untrue stories about things that happened 40 years ago.
by littlebrother on Jul 2, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
So...who gets fired over this?
And does someone write a mea culpa on the front page…or at least the front of their sports page… for their smear job?
Or do they bury this forever in their “for the record” section…which nobody reads.
Unbelievable. Someone should sue the crap out of the LA Times…
LA Times
Every time I get approached to re-subscribe, I always say “No”, because of their obvious bias towards southern cal. Jim Healy must be rolling over about “The World Champion”…
Here's one
although largely incoherent, which I blame on the SUC “education,” I believe a lot of what this guy is saying. I give you Dan Reece:
EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM
err...
Clarence Reece
EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM
by Bruins102NCAA on Jul 3, 2010 3:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Truly disgusting
What’s just as ubsurd is fans of the scandalous cheaters will always try to defend themselves of this type of nonsense
by AllIHadz240s on Jul 2, 2010 7:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
due diligence?
due diligence and the slimes?
proud to say that i cancelled these clowns long ago.
not even fit for fish wrap…
It's what SUC teaches......
A lot of you are too young to remember but most of the people involved in the Watergate scandal were SUC graduates. Breaking the law and then then trying to cover up your actions is a core course taught to students, not just football players. YouIt can’t graduate until you have proved that you can lie, cheat and cover-up.
Just remember their mantra “We didn’t break the law…we just broke a few rules”. It took a courageous U$C grad, John Dean to blow the whistle on the President of the United States.
No offense
Both Halderman and Ehrlichman were actually Bruins, sad to say. Dean did not attend U$C.
Geezer in training.
Dwight L. Chapin...
…worked with Segretti in what they called ratf***king oppostion candidates. In 1974 Chapin was found guilty of lying to the grand jury and was sentenced to 10 to 30 months in prison. In fact, he only served eight months before being released and eventually going on to become a sportwriter for, (too delicious) say it with me…The Los Angeles Times!
FYI –
Haldeman attended the University of Redlands, the University of Southern California before graduating from the University of California, Los Angeles in 1948.
by C.T. in Boston on Jul 4, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Corrections
The Times regularly prints a Corrections “column” for lack of a better term. Normally, the mistake is a mispelling of a name, identifying someone in a photograph as Myron J. Glutz when it is really Mrs. Phineas T. Storkpiffle, or mistating that Oklahoma beat Maryland in the 1954 Orange Bowl 20-7 when the Sooners actually held the mighty Terrapins to only 6 points. Small potatoes kind of stuff but this is different.
Attributing a quotation to a person who it is now acknowledged to have not said it—unless there is some really good explanation—that is a firing offense. It could be a source said he thought he heard somebody say somebody else said he said it but the correction (retraction) doesn’t say that or anything like that.
Nestor made a point several months ago which warrants emphasis and that relates to the competence of sports journalists in general. His point—they are not the sharpest tools in the tool box (or the sharpest knife in the utensil drawer or words to that effect). No doubt, there are some fine sports journalists in the country . But this misadventure, this outrage, warrants the Times which is run by honorable people, whether you agree with them or not, to prove their honor by terminating those responsible.
It may be the right management decision is to impose lesser discipline. But to me, I can’t figure out what that discipline would be.
by peggysue69 on Jul 3, 2010 12:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Get in line
An editorial writer for the Times (not on the sports side) once told me of an outraged email which complained about an editorial and concluded with the reader’s exasperated remonstrations about how he had already cancelled his subscription and could not cancel it again in protest.
Life’s unfair if you already cancelled your subscription. But not as unfair as it was for Andy who had words put into his mouth by some J-school dweeb who outta be on the street.
by peggysue69 on Jul 3, 2010 3:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have been quoted in the press a few times
and only my most recent one (about the internal poliitics here in Geezerville) was accurate. I think we need to defend ourselves. Banishing every fishwrap reporter from the sidelines or locker room and from practice is a start. Telling each kid on each of our teams that they can talk to any reporter they want to talk to, but not to anyone from the ’wrap.
How could they slant futuire stories any worse that in the past?
The best way to get back at the Fishwrap is to ensure that all other papers not affiliated with them are invited to interviews of players and coaches, especially the opposition team’s scribes.
The key is to ensure that the targeted ‘periodical’ is on the outside looking in.
by C.T. in Boston on Jul 4, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
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