Southern Cal Boots Scandal Tainted AD Mike Garrett, Hires Pat Haden
The news comes via Bill Dwyre in the Trojan Times:
Longtime USC favorite son Pat Haden will replace Mike Garrett as athletic director, beginning Aug. 3.
The official announcement is expected to come later Tuesday from the school's president-elect, Max Nikias, who will take over the position from retiring Steven Sample. That transition will also occur Aug. 3.
Garrett, the school's former Heisman Trophy-winning running back who has been USC's athletic director for the last 17 years, is expected to take the school's retirement package. He is 66.
Garrett came under fire recently when USC was put on four years probation by the NCAA for a series of violations, primarily involving its football program, that added up to a lack of institutional control. That kind of NCAA action almost always results in fingers being pointed at the athletic director, and Nikias' action appears to be in response to those NCAA penalties.
Haden is a pure Trojan but it seems like he at least has a little class:
"Our goal will be to compete ferociously but also ethically," Haden said. "There are plenty of models for that out there. Winning any way other than the right way is not winning at all."
He said his guideline on that has never changed, that he would never do anything he knew would embarrass his mom.
"She's no longer alive," he said, "but that doesn't change my rule."
Those comments are laudable but his true colors shines through when he says things like this:
Haden said that, as a member of the board of trustees, he steered clear of most things involving athletics. He added, "I would give Mike Garrett pretty good grades. For the most part, USC stayed out of trouble."
Uh yeah. Giving someone "good grades" for running perhaps the most corrupt athletic program in modern history of college sports? I guess he is using the same grading curve as Senora Ross.
We will hear a lot of flowery words from Haden and the Trogan brass in next few days. None of that is going to matter all that much if they keep pursuing their bogus appeal and let Hello Kiffin run lose. Guess we will find out how they are going operate in the coming weeks.
GO BRUINS.
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Ding Dong the witch is dead.
The witch is dead.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
The problem
The culture remains corrupt. Not sure if Haden can fix it especially given he thinks Garret should get “pretty good grades.”
Pretty Good Grades
I would give Haden a pass for that comment.
What could we expect him to say…“Garrett has been a skid mark on our program”
True words, but “Pretty Good” is about as harsh as I would have anticipated…
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Jul 20, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
so relieved we don't have to hear
from/about this bumbling, corrupt, basketcase douchecanoe anymore.
"We should have a banner up there: the only team to make the tournament without a coach." -- Baron Davis, remembering his "coach" at UCLA
by inhowlandwetrust on Jul 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions
I don't know
I think I’m going to miss ol’ Mikey. Can you honestly say you didn’t laugh every time you heard this man speak? Or heard any stories about the things he did? Can we be assured Mr. Haden will provide the same levels of comedy? I’m just not sure.
by Captain Leebeard on Jul 20, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It's funny because it's true.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Haden "hopefulyy" is an improvement
Haden deserves a chance but all of us will keep close watch on his actions. He could start by limiting access to sidelines and practices. He should also take the steps to see that academics are of prime importance. While I will give it a passing grade for effort to clean up the cesspool only time will tell.
Cesspool... love it!
"We should have a banner up there: the only team to make the tournament without a coach." -- Baron Davis, remembering his "coach" at UCLA
by inhowlandwetrust on Jul 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Pardon me!!
Is that the same Pat Haden who kissed Pete Carroll’s ass for several years, forced Garrett to hire NCAA violation-prone Lane Kiffen, and lived with Coach McKay back when he played for the trogans???!!! I am so glad he wants to run an “ethical” program.
Forced Garrett to Hire Kiffen
I hate Troy as much as anyone…but forced Garrett to hire Kiffen…that sounds like BS to me….
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Jul 20, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Garrett was right...I'm Jealous!
I wish I could screw up royally at my job and get a golden parachute to retire.
According to tWWL
He [Haden] said USC would return the Heisman won by Bush in 2005 to the Heisman Trophy Trust next month.
Oopps
I think it was the incoming president, Nikias, not Haden who said that.
that sound you heard was the sound of my jaw hitting the floor.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
They will also take down murals
of bush and mayo from the costco center, inheritance hall, and the mausoleum.
Sad day in Westwood
I, for one, will miss Mike Garrett. We were finally getting to really enjoy the fruits of his incompetence in the past year or two. I hope Haden will continue to uphold the high ethical and intellectual standards that Garrett set. Only time will tell.
Gosh - the trOJies are returning the Heisman?
That must mean that their new AD really has his ethical compass set directly toward the truth. The absence of a trophy won by an ineligible player isn’t going to have a major impact on future misconduct, in my opinion, but maybe it really means something.
Let’s see if we can judge the likelihood of there being any real change in the mindset. It appears from Wikipedia that Ethical Pat was at just$c* from 1972 to 1974. If you look up Clarence Reece USC on the net, you get his long, rambling story, but there are some factual statements in it. He mentions that Ethical Pat was the quarterback at the time, and he lived rent free with the head coach, Mr. Ethics Himself John McKay. Logically, one would think that Ethical Pat has first hand knowledge that situation, but I never heard him comment on it. Maybe he has, but I have heard it. It was no secret, of course, and maybe it didn’t violate any rules. I know that Coach Neuheisel actually gives birthday and Christmas presents to a quarterback prospect, so maybe it’s OK.
Or it could mean that living arrangements have never been all that big a priority with trOJies, and that it’s not about to be one now.
Moving forward, we know that Ethical Pat was a model student and a good enough player to play pro football. We know that he knows football and just$c* well.
There is a comment I found from last January 11 in something called Sports By Brooks: "Sources familiar with the USC Board of Trustees and the Trojans coaching situation told me today that USC Board of Trustee members Pat Haden and Ed Roski are leading the search for USC’s next football coach." So who did Ethical Pat choose? Yeah, he sure got someone who is likely to really toe the line when it comes to NCAA violations. Well, that might have been an aberration. He might know something about Lame that no one else in the world knows, and which has never been publicly manifested by word or deed since Lame burst onto the coaching scene.
We also need to look at Ethical Pat’s statements about the conduct of the players and coaches over there. Here’s what I found.
Comments on OJ2: ________
Comments on bu$h: ___________
Comments on "White Nation": _____________
Comments on the Dog Fighter: _____________
Comments on any of the negatives surrounding the athletic program over there: _______
Comments to the effect that there is anything at all wrong on that campus: ___________
Ethical Pat was on the same Board of Trustees as the guy who said that the trogans weren’t cheating, they were just breaking the rules. Let me find all the statements from Ethical Pat in which he called out that guy for such a puerile statement. Oh, here they are: ____________
If you are prepared to assume that the new athletic director is going to stop the cheating, then I hope you are right. All it will take is for Ethical Pat to change the momentum that has been generated in his own life for the past four decades. He saw it all, but he said nothing, at least as far as I know. That sounds to me a lot more like someone who would continue business as usual than someone who is going to clean house. Maybe Ethical Pat will prove me wrong. I hope he does. It would be more fun to compete against just$c* on a level playing field, and that hasn’t happened since …, well since ever.
Impressive research!
In the immortal words of the pin I got while an undergrad: Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
here it is
http://sportsbybrooks.com/haden-roski-making-final-call-on-trojans-coach-27600
In the immortal words of the pin I got while an undergrad: Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
The appeal
The appeal of the NCAA sanctions is baseless and embarasses anybody with a batchelor’s degree.
So let’s see if Haden is a real Rhode’s Scholar or he is just another trOJan rogue’s scholar.
The school is doing the right thing now, but let’s see what happens downs the road. And the right thing to do is to give up on this insulting appeal of the NCAA’s very nominal yet fair sanctions.
Murals and Jerseys
I thought they had to remove all of these due to the santions. Isn’t that part of disassociation with the sanctioned players?
If U$C was really serious about cleaning house, they should have hired an outsider.
Haden is a Trogan insider and his hands don’t look so clean based on the comments above. The Trogans should have started fresh with someone with no ties to U$C.
They tried that when they hired Rick Majerus
He took one look inside that insidious den of iniquity and ran screaming down the street. That’s why they have to stick to Troylets when filling important positions.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Also Haden was on the Board of Trustees and
didn’t do anything until NCAA came down with the sanctions
A couple more thoughts about the new AD over there.
They replaced one long time trOJie with another. Why should the mindset of this newest long time trOJie be any different from his predecessor? The new guy is more articulate, but no one ever said that Cheatie Petie was not articulate.
Let’s suppose that the new AD somehow learns that everyone on the first string offense and defense is, let’s say, compromised somehow. He finds out about the under-the-table payoff here, the ’baby’s mama’s boss’s" new car there, the star running back’s mom and dad living with in a million dollar house, his quarterback living with the coach. Thngs like that. What is the likelihood that the new AD will say to the kid, the school, the board of trustees and the entire world that each of those things is an NCAA violation, and each kid is suspended indefinitely. This is a real question. Would Haden have been proactive enough to find out what Cheatie Petie was blind to about bu$h? Would Haden have suspended bu$h on the spot? I know what I would have done if I had been the AD. I’m pretty sure what a Notre Dame grad would do. That’s because my allegiance is not to the school. But Haden’s is. He is tied forever to the school, because he is a “trOJan for life” (subject to parole with good behavior.) I can’t see him doing anything that would upset the applecart of trOJie-dom, and that is the football program. I just don’t see that in the character of any trogan.
Maybe I’m wrong. I’ll be happy to admit that I’m wrong when any trOJie admits that the emperor is stark naked.
Truth and justice (not Winston)
if new President and AD want to get off to a flying start, notify NCAA they are immediately withdrawing their appeal and will accept the sanctions earned by the previous felons. Maqybe then some credibility could be established at a place where it has long been absent.
by john4justice on Jul 20, 2010 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen
The first sign of good faith will be dismissing the appeal.
On Garrett's golden handshake
Don’t know if there are any other Chappelle show fans on BN but every time I read admin. and/or fan reactions to Bush/Garrett/OJ1 related scandals I think of this joke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTC7IBdnKcI. I feel like TrOJies take it even further.
Rational person: So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Reggie was basically a pro playing with college kids?
TrOJie: Who am I to judge, the man is a Heisman Trophy winner.
Rational person: And the fact that Mike Garrett ran the most corrupt athletic program in the country?
TrOJie: Uh, hello, Heisman.
Rational person: OJ killed two people!
TrOJie does the Heisman pose
Also, does this mean
they’re retroactively awarding it to Vince Young, who deserved it that year anyways? Argh!!!
"We should have a banner up there: the only team to make the tournament without a coach." -- Baron Davis, remembering his "coach" at UCLA
by inhowlandwetrust on Jul 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions
Young said that if they retroactively award it to him, he won't accept it.
Also, that’s the school’s copy. The Heisman Trust hasn’t decided on whether or not to rescind Bush’s personal Heisman trophy.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
What blew me away was this...
The new prez, Max, just decreed that they would take down all the murals and tributes to Bush and Mayo… WHAT THE F***! They still had those things up??!!
- from the yahoo sports story:
“[we will] remove athletic jerseys and murals displayed in recognition of O.J. Mayo and Reggie Bush … from Heritage Hall, the Galen Center , and the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.”
Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...
NCAA sanctions require removal of murals/Heisman
Didn’t the sanctions require Southern Cal to dissociate itself from the records/awards attained by the tainted athletes (Bush and Mayo)?
I recall this is required, so they’re just complying with the easier NCAA mandated sanctions while appealling the harder hitting scholie losses and 2nd year of bowl bans. See pg. 58 of the NCAA Report (pdf document of 67 pages). They have to “reconfigure” “all the institutions’s records” to reflect the vacated team and individual records, achievements, etc. of the tainted athletes/teams.
They also have to remove any reference to vacated results, including championships, from stationery, banners, etc. Well, to me that includes a Heisman Trophy in the display case at Heritage Hall, or murals, any other reference to the tainted individuals/teams.
Good job Southern Cal. For once, you’ve shown yourselves capable of following instructions.
Now watch them spin this into how hard they’re working to clean house, by even scrubbing over some murals of OJ2 and Bush [AS REQUIRED BY NCAA]. Then, watch Shelly Smith get all hot and bothered over the new, ethical USC.
Spare me.
On their own, will they remove anything Pete from 2005/2006?
I’ve said before they should voluntarily disassociate themselves from Carroll and McKnight. Not to mention OJ, the face of USC.
On the other hand, they have added the squeaky clean Kiffin and SCwreck.
Interesting post on one forum
It’s over folks. USC will NOT ease up any transfer requirements. USC will loose thugs and be beat up by those same thugs. Hope you guys like wine and cheese tailgates. That’s 100 percent Pat turncoat Haden.
This from the responses to that post
If what you say is true, then ironically, Lane Kiffin may be the one element we can depend on to do what it takes to win within the limited confines determined by PH.
And what is that exactly? I wonder.
by LongtimeBru on Jul 20, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
An illusion is a horrible thing to lose
The nut case connected to the link you listed has only one dimension in life…$UC football…as it crashes he can only rant at those who offer logical counter arguements. Hopelessly willing to condemn actual academic universities unwilling to be the site of semi-pro football, the SUC-loving douche is an example of the ignorant fools that are Trogan fans.
by C.T. in Boston on Jul 21, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice Freudian slip...
“and let Hello Kiffin (run) lose.”
University of High Standards
“For the most part, USC stayed out of trouble.” – AD-to-be Haden sets a high benchmark for a ‘university’ to aspire to!!!
Perhaps this high standard can be applied to other aspects of life:
“For the most part, USC students are qualified professionals.”
“For the most part, it isn’t that dangerous beyond the gates of the USC campus.”
“For the most part, size of bank accounts have little to do with admission to USC.”
“For the most part, OJ Simpson stayed out of trouble on the set of Naked Gun.”
“For the most part, heroin doesn’t kill all users.”
“For the most part, sharks only bite off part of one’s leg.”
“For the most part, Pol Pot didn’t kill that many countrymen.”
You get the point…
Haden is no better than Mikey
Everything at $c is tainted when it comes to athletics. Haden learned from McKay. Mc Kay and Petey are pretty much the same breed. The only thing was that Mc Kay could hide things better. Haden with his law background will be able to hide things better than Mikey. As far as I can see, Haden will carry the $c tradition forward – CHEAT ON.
by Forever a Bruin on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions

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