The Shirley's History Of Arrests, Excuses & Running From Responsibility
by Nestor on Jul 22, 2010 5:06 PM PDT
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PrintWell this is certainly interesting. Just run a straight Google search with the terms "Shirley," "arrest" and "suspension" and an interesting story will pop up. From an AP wire story in October, 2007:
Fresno State suspended defensive lineman Jason Shirley for the rest of the season Saturday, ending the senior's career after his arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence.
Shirley, a 330-pound tackle who started 13 games over his first three seasons, was arrested Oct. 8 after crashing his car into an apartment building. Police said Shirley left the scene of the accident, and had a blood-alcohol level of 0.12, above the legal limit of 0.08.
Shirley already served a two-game suspension last month for undisclosed conduct detrimental to the team. He then played in three games before his arrest, recording four tackles for losses, two sacks and a forced fumble.
Yes, that Jason Shirley none other than the older brother of latest Husky of Josh Shirley who was arrested and then dismissed from UCLA for one quarter based on serious allegation of stealing from another UCLA student. Jason Shirly was found guilty of DUI despite an "interesting defense":
In Shirley's first trial, Fresno State coach Pat Hill took the stand and testified that Shirley suffered a concussion during a game against Nevada. The defense was that the concussion caused Shirley to make these bad decisions. That ended in a mistrial.
The second trial just concluded and after three hours of deliberation, the jury found Shirley guilty on three misdemeanor counts. He was sentenced to 30 days in a work program.
This time around, Shirley took the stand in his own behalf and admitted that he drank a 40 oz bottle of beer at a buddy's house before getting into the car. He also testified that the beer didn't make him drunk though two tests showed he was well over the legal limit.
Guess taking responsibility was not something Jason Shirley was familiar with during his "college career" in Fresno State. We don't know all the facts surrounding Jason Shirley's younger sibling Josh Shirley. However, based on the conversations we have had in recent days in the back ground we are more than comfortable with the decisive action CRN took with regards to the situation of Shirley and two other incoming freshmen.
Washington and Steve Sarkisian can spin all they want in taking chances with someone who was deemed even too risky for a program like Southern Cal. It certainly appears that rather than feel guilty about his actions based on allegations of stealing from a member of the Bruin family, Shirley took the easy way out of playing the victim and run to Washington. Guess Shirley is going to fit in real well with a program run in the model of Pete Carroll.
GO BRUINS.
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Shirley's Guilt-Ridden Tweet
Considering that news of the arrest of the three on felony theft charges broke on June 26, the timing of his tweet seems to fit.
PRAY FOR ME..FOR I HAVE DONE WRONG
9:17 AM Jun 24th
someone please screenshot it FAST asap
by Nestor on Jul 22, 2010 5:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well well well
So concerned were the UW fans about not getting the CRN of 10 years ago that they were blind to the fact that they were getting the Cheatey Petey of today.
LOL. If that were the case, are we voluntarily booting our 5-star TE ...
… selected by Phil Steele as a pre-season all Pac 10 first-teamer, before any of his indiscretions even get picked up in the media? I think it is fair to scrutinize the situation, but a team that employs Slick Rick ought to be careful about casting stones.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Call me when we start fielding calls trying to recruit Middleton
Until then, your coach gleefully picked up a player that was disciplined by a coach that supposedly doesn’t discipline anyone. You can’t have it both ways. So what are you going to choose? Is CRN still a bad guy or is your current coach a slimeball?
Unbelievable
You would think that Josh would try to redeem himself the old fashioned way by sticking it out at a JC. At that age my parents would never have let me bail out like that with my tail between my legs.
I think the strangest part of this story is how UCLA dismisses him, and gets applauded. Then, Washington picks him up without batting an eyelash and the Seattle Times isn’t shredding Sarkisian in ANY way. He even insinuates that UCLA had some kind of hand in Josh’s bad decision making (“around our people at the University of Washington.”)
It feels like bizarro world.
Why is anyone surprised that a Cheatie Petie protege would gladly take a guy with a character problem?
None of this is news.
What would be news would be for the Other Cheatie of Seattle to say, “Nope, this guy needs to be in a JC or some other situation where he can get his mind right. We’ll be glad to talk to him in two years if he turns his life around.”
Or to put it another way, it would be news if Sarkisian acted like Coach Neuheisel.
Come on
All of these comments slamming Shirley coming AFTER he’s out of the program versus the confetti spray when we landed him. Really, this is how we react? And we’re the good guys?
So it surprises you
That people may not like him as much after being accused of being involved in stealing from his fellow students? Or is it that you think that it’s not a big deal? That’s how you react? And you’re supposed to be the voice of reason here?
I wonder what lie that would be?
Would it be CRN telling them that they wouldn’t face any consequences for illegal behavior and then pulling the juke and actually imposing discipline? Yeah, you’ve sure been wronged, Josh.
He's just confused
He’s getting the recruiting pitches he got from the Trogans and us backwards
Well, let's put it this way
We recruited him before his arrest. UW recruited him after. That seems like a pretty big difference to me. If you can’t see the distinction, then say so, and I’m sure there will be plenty of people willing to explain it to you.
not really true as UW's staff has had a relatinship with him for over two years
I must say that this pattern of implying guilt by association (Sark and Carroll, Josh and Jason) is a pretty interesting angle you’ve got going here. I’m guessing that this is not a standard that you’ve applied to any of your current players or alum.
I do acknowledge your point, though. This decision deservedly invites scrutiny.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Gekko, Gekko, Gekko
We had a relationship with him, too. We recruited him. He chose to come to UCLA for obvious reasons. Then he stole a purse, and he was kicked off our team.
Both UW and UCLA recruited a guy who was not a thief. Then the same guy who we both recruited turned out to have character issues which made him unacceptable at UCLA. What was unacceptable character at UCLA turns out to be just fine at UW.
There’s nothing wrong with that. Lots of schools have done well recruiting guys with character problems. Our mutual friends here in Los Angeles welcome guys with character issues (as evidenced by the fact that they welcomed OJ1 to their sidelines before his current stint in jail.)
I hope Shirley flourishes at UW, and I hope you guys do well (except against us.) Just don’t try to put lipstick on a pig. We both know who you recruited. We both know that the ultimate approval for that decision came from your head coach. And we both know that your head coach learned his ethics from the most ethically challenged individual this side of Calimari. So please don’t make excuses and don’t lecture me on what our standards are here. Our standards are visible. So are yours.
Anything further? (I sort of like discussing fashion with people whose standard of excellence is beautiful new clothes the emperor is wearing.)
Pick one
CRN – Disciplinarian and Ethical coach
OR
Sark – Lawless, Slimy, Scumbag, and whatever other names you and your ilk have called CRN in the past couple years
Your silence above on the question is telling, but unless you do answer, your silence will be permanent.
3 things
1. If the tweet honestly expresses his state of mind—God bless him. Notice I used the qualifier “[i]f” since a goodly number of criminals misuse religion in an effort to seek mercy rather than accept justice.
2. As to the oldest of the 2 criminals, what a piece of work—crashes his car (probably bought it used from Reggie Bush) into a building and then keeps on driving all because he had a concussion. Wow! The Fresno Police Department must have a special “Fresno State Felon Squad” after Tarkanian recruited the entire state prison system to play basketball there. With Pat Hill, the tradition continues. At least Tarkanian didn’t show up at his players’ trials and get on the stand and tell whoppers like Hill.
3. If people want to keep on hammering CRN about what happened at UW, then they only illustrate why they couldn’t get into UCLA. The way he handled the Shirley et al. caper is proof positive he learned from his mistakes at Colorado and Washington. Facts are facts and CRN is no Pat Hill.
by peggysue69 on Jul 23, 2010 4:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Henderson vs Shirley
Can someone with a better understanding of the rules explain to me how Shirley is eligible to play this year, while Henderson from $c has to sit out a year? Both got released from their LOI’s and the only difference I see is that Shirley is kicked out of school due to a crime while Henderson voluntarily left school due to being lied to.
I may be mistaken that he can play this year, so feel free to correct me, but I’ve been reading on some boards about him possibly starting for UW this year. If true that seems to be a totally messed up set of transfer rules.
Don't think
Henderson has to sit out. BSPN’s original report about him ‘leaving’ u$c* said nothing about him sitting out a year, and a Miami newspaper says nothing about it either.
In the immortal words of the pin I got while an undergrad: Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
My mistake then
I could have sworn I read something about Henderson having to sit out, but maybe that was before $c released him from his LOI
Guess you can't blame Sarkisian too much
It must be difficult trying to recruit to one of the dampest, darkest, and coldest places in the Pac-10, where you can count on one hand how many victories in the last 2 years. I guess he has to resort in giving scholarships out to alleged purse stealers that have been kicked out of other programs to fill out roster spots.
Dumb and desperate.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
LOL. Last Pac 10 team not named USC to win a Rose Bowl? UW
Irony: CRN coached it.
I do have a question though. If JS gets absolved for his role in this affair, is he still vilified as a traitor or does he get acknowledgment as a kid who, knowing all the facts, made the best decision for himself knowing that CRN was set on not letting him back this season?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
You can get answers to questions after you answer the one already put to you
Is CRN still a bad guy or is Sark now a slimeball with lower ethical standards than CRN?
Don’t bother responding to anything else until you answer this.
You're not being fair, Ty
It’s not fair to ask a question that would make him admit that there’s no difference between Sark the Shark and Cheatie Petie (except of course for the fact that Cheatie had no salary cap at his last gig.
Your powers of logic will surely prove to be immortal
…They certainly are beyond me.
I do find myself wondering why sark didn’t go after Richardson whom he also heartily pursued for a position of need? I’m guessing you don’t like the obvious answer
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Do you really not see the difference, Gekko?
I find that hard to believe. I think that you’re one of those beings that generally lives under a bridge and tries to catch the three billy goats gruff. On the off chance that your powers of reasoning are really that stunted, I’ll try it again. I would say that I would use all one-syllable words, but that is very difficult. I’ll try, but I make no guarantees.
We can start last year or the year before. (See – two syllables. Maybe just get a dictionary out for these hard words.) Shirley is a star. Teams want him. And in his non-football life, he is good. He does not steal things. He says, “I like UCLA and will go there.” We are happy. You are not. Then we learn he steals things. We kick him off the team because we won’t have guys who steal things on our team. It makes our team look bad. It gives us a bad — hard word coming – reputation. (Look it up if you don’t know what it means.) If we let him stay on the team, it says “Hey, UCLA is a team that does not care about integrity.” (I know you won’t know what “integrity” means. Go ask a grown-up and they can explain it.)
So then what? UW says, “Hey, we don’t care about all that. If he can play football, we want him.” That says Washington is not like UCLA. But I think I better stop now, to let you go look up the word “integrity.” Don’t ask Sark, though. He surely does not know what it means.
We all know
Idiots like Gekko would be one of the first to jump on CRN had he elected to keep Shirley on the team as an example of an undisciplined and lawless program.
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