Inexact Science Behind OL Recruiting: Looking Back At UCLA's 1985 Class
Bumped. Very interesting historical perspective on recruiting well worth the read. GO BRUINS. -N
That 1985 class was probably the largest group of linemen in any recruiting class I could remember. It was a big class, very productive, but also a lot of attrition. This LA Times write-up from February 1985 is a very interesting read for many reasons. For one thing, it's shocking to see the number of linemen weighing in at 250 lbs or less!
By my count, there were seven offensive linemen in that 1985 recruiting class (along with two tight ends). That class should be considered productive because three of those recruits (Frank Cornish, Bill Paige, and Rick Meyer) became multi-year starters, and earned at least honorable mention all Pac-10 honors.
But, it is interesting to see how some of the more highly touted members of that class never started a game at UCLA for various reasons, and altogether less than half of the linemen in that class turned into starters. If anything, it illustrates the method behind the madness whenever you see coaches load up in the trenches -- a lot of things can happen such as injuries, transfers, academic casualties, and players simply not developing. You can never have too many OLs.
Among the three players that started two years or more, only Frank Cornish was a blue chipper. He would eventually start three years, earn All-American honors, and play on two Super Bowl teams with the Dallas Cowboys.
Three other OL from that class appeared on the Long Beach Press-Telegram’s Best In The West list — Rick Meyer, Mike Beech, and Dave Hallstrom. Among those three, only Meyer ever started a game at UCLA and lived up to his high credentials — two year starter and all-Pac-10. Beech was probably the most celebrated OL recruit in SoCal that year, and he moved up the depth chart until he sustained a serious head injury at a frat party (fell off the balcony at the Beta house), and was never the same afterward. Hallstrom wound up transferring to Long Beach State a year later (back then, they still had a D-I football program).
Bill Paige was basically a three-star recruit, yet once he stepped into the starting position, he anchored the right side of the line for two seasons and was honorable mention all-Pac-10. He also benefited from backing up all-conference lineman Russ Warnick for two years (and moving up the depth chart when Beech got injured).
The other two OL recruits, Hestin Silbert and Ray Villalobos, were also three-star caliber recruits, but they never started a game at UCLA, and both eventually left the program.
So, you can see that the productive starters from that class were a diverse group. Indeed, the most touted member of the OL class wound up developing into the most decorated college player as well. Yet, among the “best in the west” players, only one out of the three OL recruits even started a game at UCLA. And you had a two-year starter and honorable mention all-conference player emerge from the three-star caliber recruits.
In sum, less than half of the OL recruits in that huge class wound up as starters. In any given year, it's considered highly productive if you find a trio of decent starters, but in this case, it took seven OL recruits to find those three productive starters.
An even more graphic illustration of the unpredictable path of a recruiting class comes from the guy who developed into the best player (at any position) from that 1985 group — Carnell Lake. You can read from the write-up that Lake was brought to UCLA as a highly touted running back. In fact, Lake was so good that he was the only player from the 1985 recruiting class that did not redshirt, and the coaching staff initially used Lake as a kick returner.
Yet, Carnell Lake became a UCLA All-American after switching positions to linebacker. And he would eventually make the NFL All-Decade team as a defensive back (and IMO, he would be in the discussions for the Hall of Fame, if Lake had played his entire career at safety, rather than unselfishly moving over to cornerback when the Steelers needed help at that position).
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Just goes to show how recruiting is a crap shoot
Good post. Goes to show you better over recruit at key positions. (I know it is another sport but PG anyone?)
pg recruiting
I think pg recruiting is more predictable than OL. Anderson has been an anomaly (to date) and I haven’t given up on him yet. Majority of highly rated pgs have performed well at UCLA over the years.
Yeah but we always had 2 PGs before
Under CBH:
CB and JF (yes CB got hurt but that is part of the point, we had 2)
JF and DC
DC and RW
DC, JA and Jrue Holiday
JA and __
Thus except for last year, we had two PGs on the team.
We are PG U with all the guys we have in the pros right now so UCLA and CBH are good at teaching kids, I just think we should have 2 on the roster at all times. .
Going back we had at the same time for a bit at least:
Baron Davis and Earl Watson
Pooh Richardson and Derrick Martin
Even the last championship team had two PAC 10 starting PGs on the roster:
Tyus Edny and Cameron Dollar
I don't disagree with that
My narrow point is OL recruiting is something very different. I don’t think it makes sense to compare it to pg recruiting, which imo is little more predictable in terms of talent evaluations. I am writing something on OL as I type this.
Okay, I am taking a different point from your post as well
Over recruit OL. Both because it is hard to evaluate and because an OL can change positions. Not everyone can be the ultimate LT but can still play on the line. Also, some OL can make it other positions, TE or on defense.
Thus it is not bad to have seven OL in a class while I think, for example, three QBs would be too many for a class.
Woochifer
Great post. I gave Nestor credit but did not realize he bumped it. Love the 80s stories.
Good read.
thanks for digging up and shedding light on Bruin History.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Re: Lake
He led the nation in rushing as a senior before he dislocated his elbow in a game vs. N. Torrance. Ugly, season ending injury, but Donahue still gave him a scholarship.
Rumor had it that he was the fastest player on the team his freshman year, faster than starting tailback, Gaston Green.
He did return kicks his freshman year, but made his mark at OLB where he went on to set the UCLA record in sacks.
UCLA Ol in the 80's
I remember in 1988 Sean Wills averaged 6..6 yards a carry, Aikman only got sacked 28 times and going into th 1989 season with four starters back the OL was thought to be one of the strengths of the team. However, with Bret Johnson at QB in 1989 neither the running game nor the pass protection were nearly as effective. Although its often pointed out that a QB needs a good line, a QB can make a line looke much better or worse, and nowhere was that more apparent than the dropoff from the 88 to 89 seasons.

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