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Spaulding Roundup: Rahim’s Leadership, Chandler’s Spirit & Other UCLA Notes

We will get to practice notes in a bit. We will start with Ralph's chat with Rahim Moore yesterday after practice. The junior and defensive captain of the UCLA football team shared his thoughts on practice and also on the news on Datone Jones (his room-mate) in perspective:

I will admit that the news on Datone was a bummer. The disappointment for me was more for Datone than our team. I can't imagine how someone like him, who has been working so hard through last couple of years and this off-season feels inside after going through a freak injury like that. Yet after listening to Rahim, once again it's obvious how he was chosen as one of the four captains of this football team. I think it's pretty reasonable to guess that as tough as Datone's injury news for Datone, his spirits are up because he has Moore around him to lift him up and raise the spirits of the entire team.

Listening to Rahim, it is also easy to get the sense how loyal he is to Coach Rick Neuheisel's program and how determined he is to continue to reverse the downward trend in UCLA football started under previous two coaching regimes. I believe Rahim just like I use to hang on to every word coming out of AA, when he talked about "motivation" and bringing UCLA back to prominence. 

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Speaking of Coach Rick Neuheisel, he provided more details on Datone's injury after yesterday's practice:

CRN echoed the same messages coming out of Rahim about the defense stepping up in absence of Dantone Jones. CRN also gives a nice little summation of who has been shining during practices. It's good to hear Malcolm Jones, Jordon James, and Cassius Marsh enjoying solid starts to their camps. It is also nice to hear about Jet Ski and Ricky Marvray leading the offense in matching the intensity coming from Ayers/Moore led defense.

Speaking of the defensive Chuck Bullough noted in Jon Gold's report that the defense's approach is not going to change much without Datone:

Even with the loss of Jones, Bullough and defensive line coach Todd Howard said the defensive approach would not change, particularly with the hybrid abilities of linebacker Akeem Ayers. Bullough dabbled with Ayers at defensive end last season with positive results, and if UCLA can shore up its linebacker corps - the Bruins must replace Ayers' cohorts Kyle Bosworth and Reggie Carter - then Ayers could provide increased relief off the edge this year.

"Our playbook is going to stay the same," Howard said. "We have a lot of smart defensive linemen, but if you look at the group, only one guy has starting experience, and that's Reginald Stokes. The whole process will be an evaluation in training camp to see who the top four guys are."

The biggest wild card? Freshman defensive end Owamagbe Odighizuwa, who was rated the No. 2 defensive end and No. 8 overall prospect by Rivals.com out of Portland's Douglas High, and has shown great ability.

The difficult part will be absorbing the playbook, and that doesn't just mean the words on the page.

"Anybody can read a play and know you're supposed to go here or here or here, but in a game situation, the tempo is a lot faster, things are moving quicker," Odighizuwa said. "Your mind is moving a million miles an hour, and you have to just slow it down in your head. It will all make sense and look like what you're drawing up on the board. The more experience you get, the more similar it gets from the page to the field."

Listening to CRN though made me a little more at ease about the move of Nate Chandler to DE. If you listen to him closely, he referred to Chandler being in the "defensive front" without compleltely pigeonholing him into the DE spot.

I have a feeling that the coaches are going to find a way to move Chandler around on the front to keep the opposing Ds guessing. With the kind of size (almost 300 lbs) and speed (4.6) Chandler has it kind of makes him sense to move him around, keep the opposing lineman always wondering where he is. Coach Howard is certain that Chandler is now at an "ideal spot":

Chandler, a 6-foot-5, 290-pound junior, has been shuffled around the Bruins' depth chart since he arrived in Westwood. But defensive line coach Todd Howard is certain he has found the ideal spot.

 "Athletically, you have a guy who is 6 feet 5, almost 300 pounds and runs a high 4.5 40 [-yard dash]," Howard said. "He has all the tools."

Chandler as usual is not all that worried about the moves:

"I don't really see it as that big of a deal," Chandler said. "You need people that can move around and help the team toward the common goal of winning. I'm glad my versatility has come in handy."

And he is even willing to adjust his body frame a little heading into the season opener:

Chandler played last year at 270 pounds, but weighed in at 303 on Wednesday, he said. Now that he's moving to defensive end, which requires a bit more quickness and agility than a hole-clogging defensive tackle, he plans to lose about 15 pounds before the season opener Sept. 4 at Kansas State.

"You've got to do what you've got to do," he said. "That's what the team needs and I think I've shown I'm willing to do whatever the team needs."

Chandler talked about all that and some more to Jon Gold:

Chandler's comments on Bullough's approach to defense and how that fits into his own mindset is pretty interesting to say the least (really good stuff from Gold).

Speaking of body weights, Blair Angulo on ESPNLA did a stand alone post on weight gain by various players on our team. It's something we took note of when rosters were updated in July and during spring.

As for eligibility issues, CRN gave a pretty clear briefing on Anthony Jefferson in the video above. In case you haven't read Bruin JD's post, here is the latest on Baca:

With Baca, apparently he dropped a class in the spring that he was not doing well in.  It left him short on units for the year.  The team was aware of the issue and he loaded up on classes for the first summer session to bring his progress back up.  It still required an appeal to the NCAA though, but the team is hopeful that he should prevail.

We will keep our fingers crossed instead of freaking out in the comment threads. Again if the worst case scenario comes into fruition, we will have to see how the coaches deal with the situation with personnel available on OL. It sounds like Micah Kia is feeling good about pre-season camp early on:

"It feels really good," Kia said. "It's never easy being on the sideline watching everybody else doing something you love and being so close to something you love without being able to do it so it's nice to be on the field now."

Hopefully he is making Coach Palcic feel good too.

Lastly, we couldn't have a roundup without sharing some concern trolling from the LA Times. Chris Foster labored to write up a huge piece on UCLA's turf out in Spaulding (making the case injuries in college football only happen to UCLA). CRN LOL at Foster:

Neuheisel was emphatic that there was not a problem with the synthetic turf, which was installed during the summer of 2006.

"These fields have a life span and we're not even half through the life span," Neuheisel said. "It certainly gets a lot of use. We work out on it all year long. We're talking about replacing it."

But Neuheisel said, "We're well within the life span" of the turf and said there is no "scientific evidence" that shows the Bruins' turf is different from other synthetic fields.

"I do not believe these injuries are because of the turf," Neuheisel said. "I believe that these are fast players who get a little out of control."

He should have just said it's the concern trolling and ignorance in the "reporting" of the Trojan Times that is completely out of control.

GO BRUINS.

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Observation from practice

Chandler looked quite good at DE today. He played on the left side with Ayers and I think it’s a brilliant move for our D. Firstly, he is a beast of a player- size and speed. His size helped to set the edge on many of the scrimmage running plays. He also made some nice stunts from outside in to flush the QB (one such instance led to a pick). Secondly, he provides great cover for Ayers. Pulling guards are not going to be able to get to Ayers with a DE like Chandler clogging things up. And on Ayers blitz packages, it’s pick your poison. You’re going to see teams overloading that side with extra blockers to deal with the double threat. My only hope is that Graham and Love can be a lot faster to the QB/ball carriers from the weakside than we had experienced from last year.

Bruins are forever but Trojans are good only once.

by $honuff on Aug 12, 2010 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

"It's about time we gave L.A. the kind of football they deserve."

Great quote by Rahim! Laughed out loud at that, thinking about that other place and their fball team. Also, I felt the same way about Datone getting hurt…our team will be okay, but I felt so badly for him. As for that chris foster guy, as I said in another comment, he spent his whole time not watching practice, rather talking to KP’s dad. “As a newspaper man, I’ve learned to go to the dad’s for the technical stuff and to the mom’s for all the cute stories.” And, speaking about his own kid, “his mom does all the character building stuff”. Well, duh! I’m a woman and listening to this stereotypical stuff really gets my ire up! But I was pleased that my idea of him held true. I never even saw him open his notebook to take notes.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Aug 12, 2010 7:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, it is not the turf...

It is the adidas shoes with its terrible foot support. ;)

by INawe on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m going to be in Westwood on Saturday, can someone tell me what time practice starts? I’d love to get out there and support the our team for a bit.

by PoliSci03 on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Practice Schedule

From the official site:

Thursday, August 12 – 3:00-6:00 p.m.
Friday, August 13 – 4:00-6:00 pm (First day of full pads)
Saturday, August 14 – 9:00-11:00 a.m. and 4:00-6:00 p.m.
Sunday, August 15 -3:00-5:15 p.m.
Monday, August 16 – 9:00-11:00 a.m. and 4:00-6:00 p.m.
Tuesday, August 17 -3:00-5:15 p.m.
Wednesday, August 18 – 9:00-11:00 a.m. and 4:00-6:00 p.m.
Thursday, August 19 – 3:00-5:15 p.m.
Friday, August 20 – 9:00-11:00 a.m. and 4:00-6:00 p.m.
Saturday, August 21 – 5:00 p.m. (Scrimmage at Drake Stadium)

Keep checking the official site b/c times are tentative.

by Nestor on Aug 12, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I certainly don't want to be alarmist, but...

I remember when watching our Ben Ball warriors play, they seemed to slip quite a few times in the game and during warm-ups (I think especially Josh Shipp). Something just didn’t seem right, and I couldn’t help but think it had something to do with the adidas shoes. When these kind of freak accidents happen, I can’t help but think that the slightest difference in shoe performance could be the factor that separates a major injury from a slight slip.

Again, this is just my inconclusive speculation with no science behind it, but a possibility that I think would be worth looking into.

by bruinbunz on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Appreciate the concern

However, if you want to raise alarms you need to provide little more than anecdotes and vivid memories. There are so many factors involving in hoops that is different from football. It is irresponsible to offer up “inconclusive speculation” without anything to back it up.

As we have said repeatedly we rather see that on message boards. We’d like to see a little more substance and informed takes here on BN. Thanks.

by Nestor on Aug 12, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right.

I’m just majorly bummed about Datone and am trying to rationalize why it might have happened. I don’t have the facilities by which to determine who or what is at fault, but sure wish that I did.

by bruinbunz on Aug 12, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

What would be interesting is to get full datapoints on injuries suffered by UCLA and compared that to other top-25 programs (ratio of injuries to impact players (in two deep) and roster sizes). If something stands out then we can zero in a little more.

Otherwise the concerns coming up are mostly anecdotal. This is why the report from Foster is really rubbish and it signals the guy (and his paper) seems to have a specific agenda they are trying to drive with respect to UCLA.

Unless we see full datapoints, thoughts from experts from sports training world, athletic apparel, we need to be really careful about sounding alarm bells over this stuff.

by Nestor on Aug 12, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

On top of that...

Just having a good data set doesn’t mean any of us can interpret it.
Who here is an expert in foot injuries?

Besides, this could be simple coincidence. As they say
“A million to one chance happens ten times a day in New York City.”

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 12, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am sure there are plenty of us here

who could run simple statistical analysis and hypothesis testing to give a sense of whether it is ‘just chance’ or whether there is something unique about UCLA practice conditions. I don’t need to be an expert in the muscle mechanics of shooting a free throw to know that Ray Allen is doing something different from Shaquille O’Neal, based on the end results. (the chance that their results are just down to chance/coincidence is infinitessimally small – much less than one in a quadrillion, which is about as far as my calculator will permit…)

I suspect the difficulty comes in some of the collinearities – most top-25 programs have a decent amount of stability at the top coaching levels, so it would be highly difficult to distinguish between
“UCLA has a lot of injuries due to the surface they play on” and
“UCLA has a lot of injuries due to the way their coaches run their practices” or even “UCLA has a lot of injuries due to the fast out of control players (that their coaches tend to recruit for their system)”

The footwear issue would be easier to address as a factor, as I presume there are multiple schools wearing what we wear, and multiple who don’t, so there is some standardization.

To distinguish all these things accurately, it would be helpful if they changed over time (i.e. it would be good if we had many years of data pre and post CRN, pre and post the current surface, pre and post the current equipment).

As it is, a decent dataset would be able to tell us whether we actually have a problem that needs to be investigated, and then we could focus in more closely on the different possible hypotheses.

by britishbruin on Aug 12, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even think you can make the statement past "due"

I know every injury hurts (no pun intended) (ok pun intended) but there aren’t nearly enough datapoints here to explain anything from a stats perspective. This could all be a statistical anomaly. We might as well attribute eye injuries on the basketball court from eye-poppingly gorgeous girls on campus. (This of course being a risk I am willing to take.)

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Aug 12, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure if we're disagreeing here or not

but it seems that it would be perfectly possible to distinguish whether or not we have a statistically unusual number of injuries, and whether further investigation was therefore warranted;

but the power to explain WHY we have a problem (if we do) is not something we could easily address statistically. You might be able to rule out some hypotheses, or render them unlikely to warrant further investigation.

by britishbruin on Aug 13, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

small disagreement
perfectly possible to distinguish whether or not we have a statistically unusual number of injuries

I don’t think we can even do that. Unless like 30% of the team suffered foot injuries annually. And that ain’t happening.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Aug 13, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

With talking about bball…there were plenty of times the court was slick and not cleaned up, or there were jacked up logos. These particular aspects have nothing to do with the shoe.

by SakeBomb on Aug 13, 2010 3:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rahim and Nate

Shining examples of Bruins. Really bummed for Datone just like I was for Hester last year. Those guys were the class that I felt began to turn the program around. You could already see the comaraderie when they all signed at the Serving Spoon. We have the talent to recover from this now but I was really looking forward to Datone exploding considering he was pretty dominant in Spring Ball. Was also looking forward to seeing what type of pressure we could create with Datone, freaks like Ayers & Chandler and the young guys like Graham and Owa. Hope Datone gets well soon and if need be, take the RS instead of coming back for just a few games.

by BlueReign on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Rahim Moore

That young man “IS” what UCLA is allll about, brotha! I love that guy!

by 612landfair on Aug 12, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

4.6 40 at 300 pounds.

Wow…. The speed and size of players these days is absolutely crazy. Anyone else blown away by numbers like these?

by Bruin'96 on Aug 12, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

It makes the injuries more understandable

When you have guys that big, strong and fast competing for
play time it is surprising every practice doesn’t have an injury.

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

4.6, 290 pounds

and a mean streak, from what the other guys have said!

Best get out of his way!

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 12, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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