Pregame Guesses: UCLA 2010 Preseason Camp Scrimmage Edition
I’m having a very difficult time coalescing my thoughts for the football season.
To this point, fall camp for me has been the juxtaposition of mostly positive practice reports (which by definition we take with enough grains of salt to line the rim of a Baxter’s margarita) and the sad reality that every crappy season we’ve endured since Matt Stevens was our quarterback and not our broadcaster has been preceded by a bunch of mostly positive practice reports.
I guess it’s safe to say that when it comes to UCLA football, I’ve entered the "I-sort of-think-good-times-might-be-on-the way-but-the-truth-of-the-matter-is-you’ve-got-to-show-me-something-on-the-field-for-me-to-really-be-a-true-believer" stage.
Maybe that’s not fair to Rick Neuheisel. He wasn’t the guy who hung on coaching the team a few seasons too long and he wasn’t the guy who got lazy after Cade McNown led the team to 20 straight wins and somehow failed to build on the momentum of an 8 game winning streak against USC and he wasn’t the guy who decided the right guy to match up with Pete Carroll was Karl Dorrell and he’s not Karl Dorrell and for that alone we should be forever grateful. But he’s the guy charged with putting a Humpty Dumpty back together again so that ol Humpty is at the least a Top 15 program that every few seasons wins the conference and competes for national recognition.
(more after the jump)
So, what do we know for sure?
As far as I’m concerned – and remember, I’ve been beaten down by false optimism since I graduated after the ’86 Rose Bowl – the only thing I know for sure is Rahim Moore and Akeem Ayers. I’m sure some of you feel different, but the only thing I’m absolutely positive about is that Moore and Ayers are flat out studs and will be the cornerstone of Chuck Bullough’s defense. These are NFL caliber players and with the departure of Tennessee’s Eric Berry to the NFL, Moore is the best safety in the nation.
You know what? There’s one other thing I know for sure: Kai Forbath. Just typing the words "Moore is the best safety in the nation" reminded me that Forbath is the best kicker in the nation. Call me crazy, but it’s possible that Forbath might be the most important player on the team. The guy is so automatic on even the longest of field goals, that the only downside to his presence is that Rick Neuheisel might be tempted at times to play for field goals and not touchdowns.
But, we need touchdowns, lots of touchdowns.
Where they’re going to come from is unclear.
It’s a 6-9, 280 bummer that our starting quarterback has been injured for much of training camp. I hate to go all Rex Ryan on everyone, but fuck me, who did what to who to bring about the karmic disaster that causes anyone who plays quarterback for UCLA to get injured. You wonder why we’re having difficulty recruiting a prep quarterback? It’s not because we can’t offer immediate playing time, it’s because they don’t want to end up in a body cast.
Yes, on paper Kevin Prince should be ready to take the next step as our QB. Yes, on the field, he at times looks ready to take that step. But we won’t really know for sure, for sure, until he shows it to us in games and at the moment who knows? He’s got a pulled something. He isn’t practicing. We just don’t know.
Don’t misunderstand me. I like Prince. I like his mobility, I like his arm, I like his poise. I vividly remember struggling, freshman/sophomore McNown and if I squint into the afternoon sun at Spaulding I can sort of convince myself that Prince has that same swagger and potential. But, to repeat, who really knows?
Hang on, there’s another thing I know – Randall Carroll is fast. He’s I shouldn’t-have-done-that-last-shot-of-Cuervo-and-now-I’m-trying-to-make-it-to-the-bathroom-before-I-spew-all-over-the-living-room fast. What I don’t know is whether or not we’ll figure out a way to get him the ball. It seems so simple – hand or throw the fastest guy in California the ball and let him run fast with it and no one will be able to run fast enough to stop him. Heck, just send him deep on every play, make your opponent’s DBs track him 50 yards down the field every play – if nothing else the safety won’t be able to come up and support the run on the off chance you actually throw it to Carroll. Seems easy, but what do I know. Based on this post, not much.
I don’t really feel like running through the whole roster? What would be the point? Does it really matter that we appear to have a number of really good running backs, but no one has really established themselves as a back that must be reckoned with? Does it matter if I name drop the offensive line starters – or should I focus on the one we don’t have because he’s academically ineligible or the one we won’t have for the opener because he’s suspended or the ones who are hurt (not to mention the one’s we lost for reasons we must simply accept as part of life, the kid who had to retire due to injuries or the kid fulfilling his religious commitments.)
On defense, our best player from last season is playing for the Tampa Bay Bucs and our best corner is playing for the Titans. The lost of Brian Price is simply huge, both literally and metaphorically. He was so good last season, that it’s difficult to assess just how much of whatever defensive success we had was due to his dominating presence. There is a case to be made that BP was UCLA’s greatest DT ever and his absence won’t be assessable until we go live in September.
As for the Saturday’s scrimmage – what do we hope to learn? Will we get any definitive answers about our many questions? I doubt it. I’m hoping Prince plays, but will he be able to shake off the rust enough to give us some clue about how he’s progressed since he was last seen freezing in D.C. against Temple? If not, I’d like to see some good throws from Richard Brehaut and Nick Crissman and I’d like to get some sense of Darius Bell. I’d like to see Malcolm Jones rip off a run, just to see it.
I think more than anything else, I’d like to see some consistency on both sides of the ball (thought sometimes it’s tough for both sides to play well on the same night.) What I mean is, I don’t want to see any unforced fumbles or dropped passes. If the offense does lose the ball, I’d rather it be because some defender stuck the ball carrier. I don’t want to see any penalties.
But, more than anything else I want two things:
I want to come out of the scrimmage healthy.
And I want to see the offense run a trick play.
Yeah, I know you don’t want to show your tricks in a scrimmage, but show me something. History still hasn’t rendered its final judgment on the Toledo era in L.A. – but I’ll always be thankful for the 20 straight wins and the fact that he threw in a trick play every game.
I like trick plays.
With that in mind, here are your Pregame Guesses for the Fall Scrimmage:
- Name a Bruin to who scores a touchdown?
- Name a Bruin defender who recovers a fumble or makes an interception?
- Within 250, what will UCLA Athletics officially estimate the crowd?
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Rosario or JetSki, Riley, I have no idea!
Could also see it be Marvray, Jones, Coleman, or Smith. Okay, it’s not a game so I get to make a lot of guesses. We are playing on both sides of the ball, after all.
Go Bruins!
N. Good Summary of Where We Are, Today -- And a Few of My Random Thoughts
The pre-season coverage here has been stellar. In this post, you pull it all together. Well done!
I share many of your feelings.
When we play ourselves in practice, it is hard to tell whether we are really an improved team. But, there are a few things that stand out:
First, we have players who, when recruited, were “ranked” as better than those they are replacing; whether the rankings mean anything is questionable; just ask CBH. But, deep inside me, I believe they are better; I trust the people who have been recruiting them and nurturing them.
Second, we are bigger, stronger and faster — all qualities we needed to add to our program. If we believe the empirical data being supplied by the team we are much improved over when CRN took over.
Third, we are opening up the offense — showing some flexibility — allowing CNC’s genius to shine a bit by changing our offense (or tweaking it depending on who’s talking about it) to fit the talent we have.
Fourth, we appear to have a cohesive, talented staff. I say “appear” because although I love to hear them talk the talk, I really need to see us walk the walk. (This is particularly true of the DC. Yes, our D has been better than our O for years, but I think it has underperformed at key times. I don’t want to rekindle those debates; the statistical analysis from the last two years appears in a lot of posts from last season.) I like this staff. I like its passion and commitment. I like the way it represents my school. I just want to see all of this play out on the field. Somehow, deep inside me, I think this is the year it will.
N. you are spot on. Over the past few years, we’ve heard great things coming out of camp — but we’ve not necessarily seen those great things when we’ve played other teams.
To me, the key unknown is how mentally tough we are. And, are we going to be consistent? Will we play a full 4 quarters on both sides of the ball? That’s where we’ve failed in the past few years. Lapses have cost us games we should have won.
I want a defense that creates 3 and outs in the first quarter — and then for the remainder of the game. I want a D that brings it all game long. We have not done that, and it has hurt us.
It goes without saying we want an improved offense. And, I feel strongly we will have it. But, a few stupid decisions and mental lapses — either throwing the ball, missing blocks, or putting the ball on the ground can diminish the promise of the new offense.
And, I want to see an end to stupid penalties. Really stupid penalties. Drive ending penalties when we are on O, and drive extending penalties when we are on D. We have been our worst enemies.
Finally, I want a season without key injuries. Yes, I know that injuries are a part of football, but I really think we’ve had more than our share to key personnel at key times. Please, can we go a year without losing our starting quarterback? And/or his back up? Can we play most of the season without losing our linemen? Can we get Datone back, healthy and strong — sooner rather than later?
Looking forward, I am really excited about this season. And, pleased that I will be spending a good part of Sept and Oct in Pasadena — which will allow me to go to some of the games. I do think this will be our year and I’m really looking forward to cheering us on.
sjh
A, not N
Just pointing out that Achilles gets the credit for this one.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Just so you all know ...
I took the confusion as a compliment.
And while I’m glad people liked the post, I’m mostly proud of the fact that I managed to figure out how to post the photo.
I got the Baxter's reference. Love that place.
I’m the the generation between you and N (87-92, 5 year plan).
by orlandobruin on Aug 21, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that the Red Rocks just West of Colo Springs?
Really cool place.
Did G take you to see this:

by LongtimeBru on Aug 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
66-I agree
For me, your most salient observation involves those 3 irrefutable words—“bigger, stronger and faster.” That we are and that should translate to better play.
And, like you, I am excited.
by peggysue69 on Aug 20, 2010 9:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Fauria, Riley, 3300
This is the first year in a long time that we’ll have a team that can potentially play without any “issues”, like injuries, a less-than-inspiring coach, no offense, no defense, etc. I’m just looking forward to hopefully watching a complete football team on the field. I don’t expect greatness on both sides of the ball, I just want to see some crisp execution and a team that looks like it knows what it’s doing out there.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
I doubt it.
He hasn’t played all week. He was running a little bit yesterday, but is one of the hurts waiting to return. I would imagine he’ll be back for the start of the season.
Go Bruins!
Franklin, Moore, 3K
This season will go as our O-line goes. There is sufficient talent in the backfield and out wide. Either our QB’s will again emulate tackling dummies, or they will stand tall in the pocket and get the ball to blazing fast WRs or huge TEs. Either our RBs will struggle for a couple yards and a cloud of dust, or they will be juking the 2nd and 3rd layers of D, moving chains and controlling the ball and clock. Either Kai will be bombing from 40+ yds or chipping in PATs. Here’s hoping the OL’s experience trumps depth/injuries/grades/missions this year.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
I hate trick plays. Unless they're successful.
Rosario, Riley, 5000
by AllHailMightyBruins on Aug 20, 2010 6:54 AM PDT reply actions
Awww yeah!
1. Malcolm Jones
2. Aaron Hester
3. 8,361
Football season is here!!
Great writing, Achilles!
Loved this line:
You wonder why we’re having difficulty recruiting a prep quarterback? It’s not because we can’t offer immediate playing time, it’s because they don’t want to end up in a body cast.Sad but true.
1. Rahim Moore
2. Rahim Moore
3. 3427
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Forbath, Franklin, 2112
Why?
1. I like trick plays, too.
2. A teammate’s
3. A great album
by haywood nighttrain on Aug 20, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions
Franklin, Hester, 2560
Great post! I couldn’t agree with your comments and concerns any more.
I do think that our offense is at least more consistent in practice than in past seasons. It was very impotent last year and a disaster the year before. We knew it was going to be a rough season. This year, at least there’s some promise and the speculation about our success is all over the board when you talk to those who actually attend practices regularly. We’re all consistent in our belief that this team is a breath of fresh air. We’re faster, bigger, stronger, more athletic. Whether we’re mentally prepared remains to be seen, but I like our outlook and I’m excited about having so many freshmen competing with the big boys. That’s proof that recruitment rankings do carry some weight.
Marvray, Love, 3300
or Jones, Riley, 2800 or ………….I guess it really depends on who plays and gets the most touches.
Oh and by the way "A" good job.
In addition to Carroll, I would like to see Thigpen get his hands on the ball a bunch as well.
I totally agree with the bigger stronger, faster and more athletic. We just have to figure out a way to keep them healthy. If we can do that, I think we can have a very good season.
Fun Read Achilles
Wish I could be out there for the scrimmage. Am getting damn excited and jacked for the season to begin!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Aug 20, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions
Malcolm Jones, Rahim Moore, 4800
by Bellerophon on Aug 20, 2010 11:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I still do not know how we (Ucla) will perform
I live in Virginia now and I read every UCLA football piece written; spoken about positively or negatively; and all the TV input. With this, I still do not know what type of team we have and I’m sure not feeling it from Neuheisel. I do know, Kansas State is ready to mulch us in a few weeks. I also know, that we need a very, very new and productive offensive offense other hand off right, then right off left, then pass incomplete. All of us UCLA alums need a season like 1996 or something like it so we can talk about our Bruins with a small.
I still do not know how we (Ucla) will perform
oops, type error …..“so we can talk about our Bruins with a smile”

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