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Notes/Observations On UCLA's "Tentative" Depth Chart For Kansas State

New dept chart out. Photo Credit: Erkki Corpuz

So UCLA released its "tentative" depth chart for Kansas State game (PDF) earlier today. Let's dive right into them because there are number of interesting developments after more than two weeks of an eventful preseason camp:

  • Let's start right at QB. As of right now first string is either Kevin Prince or Richard Brehaut. From the reports today it looks Kevin Prince is heading towards the right direction:
    * Kevin Prince looked good in his most action since Day 2 of fall camp, displaying a nice zip - at times too much zip - on his passes. Prince and Brehaut rotated with the first unit, with Brehaut sometimes with the twos, and Darius Bell leading the second- and third-units.

    * In drills against the scout team defense, Prince threw several passes, including some medium-to-deep routes. Moved around a lot and looks fine on that front, and at this point, I'd have to assume he'll be ready for Kansas State.
    That is good news but we will have to see how he feels tomorrow. I am guessing we are not going to have any definitive answer at least till the end of the day tomorrow.
  • From QB moving on to OL, looking at the chart our "depth" issues stand out right away. We have two true freshman - Chris Ward (6-4, 318, Fr.) and Wade Yandall (6-4, 329, Fr.) - prominently featuring in the 2 deep. Chris Ward is listed behind Darius Savage at LG and also behind Sean Sheller at LT. So, guess it's suffice to say that he is likely in Bob Palcic's 8 men rotation. Wade Yandall is a little ahead of Ward in terms of Spaulding "experience" (as he checked in during spring) but still a first year player. He is listed behind Eddie Williams. Crossing my fingers that we don't have to rely on those guys.
  • The starting OL averages around 317bs. As noted previously they are all seniors who have been around for a while (with two JC starters in Ryan Taylor and Eddie Williams). While we are weary of absence of Kai Maiava and Jeff Baca, we will at least have some size.

Lot more after the jump.

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  • Morrell Presley (6-4, 222, So.) and Anthony Barr (6-5, 228, Fr.) tops the FBack position with Christian Ramirez behind. This is not a surprise after what we have heard in recent weeks.
  • At the tailback spot both Derrick Coleman (6-0, 231, Jr.) and Johnathan Franklin (5-10, 198, So.**) are listed as starters with Malcolm Jones (6-0, 223, Fr.) right behind them. It will be interesting to see how JetSki performs this game coming in healthy.
  • Interestingly Ricky Marvray is listed above Josh Smith at the flanker position. I am guessing this is a combination of Marvray's camp success and Smith's injury. Regardless, I am guessing Smith will get his chances plus he is listed as one of the two key returners along with Taylor Embree (Randall Carroll and Damien Thigpen didn't make that list).
  • Over at defense, looks like Dietrich Riley went past Stan McKay for the number 2 spot at FS. However, Tony Dye held him off as Dye himself finished strong during pre-season camp.
  • It still looks like a dead heat between Steve Sloan and Patrick Larimore for the Mike LB position. As for Will, Sean Westgate is still ahead as Glenn love missed few days from injury.
  • Really interesting to see Jordan Zumwalt listed at the second strng spot at Sam right behind Akeem Ayers. I thought for sure Zumwalt was headed towards a RS season. We will have to keep a close eye on that. Also, speaking of LBS, sounds like Todd Golper is out for few weeks after getting "a second epidural for back pain." Good luck to the young man. Hope he hangs in there. He is certainly a loyal Bruin and he will get his day in the sun sooner or later. 
  • Elsewhere, Nate Chandler is now listed as a starting LE ahead of Iuta Tepa and Reginald Stokes. It will be interesting to see what kind of pressure Chandler can generate on the opposing QBs. He will have to step up in Datone Jones' absence who was expected to complement Akeem in our defensive front-7.
  • Not surprisingly Cassius Marsh (6-4, 285, Fr.), Owamagbe Odighizuwa (6-4, 240, Fr.), and Seali'i Epenesa (6-2, 320, Fr.) are listed in the depth chart. I am betting on Marsh and and Owa getting action right from our first weekend.
  • The defensive front-4 averages around 287.5. Not sure when was the last time we had this kind of size in our defensive frontline. It was just yesterday when we had one of the Moline brothers getting an emergency start as DT at UCLA weighing around 240lbs. Yikes. Those were not fun days. Of course just because we have size doesn't mean everything is going to be all right. Remains to be seen the kind of technique and fundamentals we see from lot of our new guys. I am sure Todd Howard is going to have his hands full heading into our first game.

Those are my quick observations from looking at today's depth chart. Looks like captainqtp already posted his 2 cents in the fanshots. If there are other notes we should take into account please chime in the comment thread.

GO BRUINS.

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Sorry

I figured you’d wait till tomorrow on this! My impatience got the best of me :)

Gold just noted that Larimore was running with the 1s today at MLB. He may have the edge there. Also, was a little surprised that Keenan Graham got bumped into the 2 deep. I figured it would be something like Graham/Holmes OR Owa…. Anyways thought Owa might crack 2nd string somewhere.

Wonder if they should redshirt Owa if we are that deep at DE right now.

by captainqtp on Aug 30, 2010 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Never apologize

For sharing news/link that hasn’t been posted. In fact its cool when you guys go ahead w your own analysis. Hope there is more of it.

As for your thoughts I think Larimore has such a size advantage that he sticks out as an mlb. I think Owa gets in this year. From everything I have read he has been great during practices.

by Nestor on Aug 30, 2010 3:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

i think a RS would be good considering depth

While physically impressive, I haven’t Seen him blowing up plays when he’s been in. Again, I think this is more a function of him working on his technique instead of bull-rushing and trying to overpower the O-lineman, which are significantly larger at this letter.

But I asked him that very question at the fall scrimmage and Owa emphatically indicated he would not RS. Just a data point.

by Scotucla03 on Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

DE

Holmes was #2 behind Jones when this all started. He is now #1 on the other side. Is Chandler really the 2nd best DE we have right now? Holmes can obviosly play either side so it isn’t a left/right side issue.

by uclaves on Aug 30, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Chandler

I was really impressed with what I saw of Chandler in practice. Strong and very quick for someone his size. He’s probably not going to make us forget about Jones anytime soon, but he’s going to put some hurt on other teams

by BruinJD on Aug 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think its been so much that the other DEs are bad as it is Chandler just being a specimen with his size, speed and attitude

by dhuang90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

DE

Given injuries and other issues we’ve had, got to love the size and future of our D-Line.

Can’t wait for a Kansas St predictions thread. Vegas has no clue how wrong they have this….

by Bruin'96 on Aug 30, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

just read the ksu official ucla preview

Didn’t realize ksu coached by Snyder has a 17 game season opener win streak on the line. Just a fun fact I thought I would share. They have the full PDF but wasn’t sure how to link it up from my phone.

Go Bruins!

by westwood12003 on Aug 30, 2010 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm just curious...

but who are K State’s opponents in those 17 openers?

I’m suspecting it’s a lot of “Directional State” U…and in looking it up, K State has victories over such luminaries as Western Kentucky, Florida International, Illinois St, Temple (twice),
Indiana St, and UMass (yes, apparently UMass has a football team).

So, the 17 game home win streak is nice, I guess.

by CAJason80 on Aug 30, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

Good looking out, but nevertheless its Just a data point that would be cool to break the streak. Just can’t wait for kickoff!

by westwood12003 on Aug 30, 2010 9:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

they almost lost

to UMASS last year. Beat them 21-17, they did lose to Louisiana-Lafayette though.

RESCUING DANCE MUSIC FROM THE BLAHS

by AMM19 on Aug 30, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can finally respond

So, you’re right, there are a lot of speed bumps, but also don’t forget Texas Tech (first ever Big XII game), Iowa, USC (yes, THAT USC), Cal as well.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Sep 2, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

great breakdown

comments by Nestor havwe helped me to get a handle on what has been going on while I was out of touch. Thanks a lot.

by john4justice on Aug 30, 2010 7:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought I was paying attention...

When did Damien Thigpen become a corner? Has he always worked both sides of the ball?

Tinman

by Tinman17 on Aug 30, 2010 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

It has been mentioned multiple times

He has been working mostly on defense this fall since the new freshmen are impressing so much at tailback.

by sponkey21 on Aug 30, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

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