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Basketball Round Up:UCLA Alumni Update & The Need To Be Wary On The Recruiting Trail

While the focus and excitement is rightly on football, there is some news on basketball. 

While the biggest news this week was Edney coming home, there was more Alumni news including a cool story about perseverance.  One of the keys to our first CBH final four run was Ryan Hollins emergence as a force.  Hollins after years of battling Michael "all UCLA under achieving team member" Fey, emerged as a star.  This has been a pattern in Hollins' life of starting slow and overcoming to be a star:

Also among the coaches was Chino Hills boys basketball coach Don Grant, the same coach who cut Hollins his freshman year.

"We cut him because you weren't sure which direction he was going to go," Grant said. "He went in the positive direction, and immediately after we cut him he asked what are three things he could do to make the team in spring. He set his eyes on the next tryout instead of bad-mouthing or pointing fingers. That's when we knew he was special." . . .

"Getting cut, kids take it as a bad thing," Hollins said. "But that made me work even harder. When I talk to these kids, I can talk to the worst kid and the best kid because I was the worst kid once who sat at the end of the bench, and then the kid who was starting. So I can relate."  

More after the jump.

Star-divide

Another player who like Hollins had his basketball career rescued by CBH continues to play well overseas.  Cedric Bozeman will be going to Belgium. 

Cedric Bozeman spent last season in China with Shougang Beijing Ducks averaging 20.2ppg, 6.2rpg and 3.6apg in 32 games in CBA. Bozeman has played also 23 games in NBA (5 starts) with Atlanta Hawks averaging 1.1ppg.

Lastly, maybe the ultimate former bruin traveler, Gerald Madkins (Bobby Knight's favorite Bruin) continues his life as a basketball nomad, this time hooking up with another Bruin's pro team:

According to several sources, the New Orleans Hornets have hired Gerald Madkins as the team's new Vice President of Player Personnel. A league source confirmed the hire to NewOrleans.Com/Sports. . . . Madkins comes to the Hornets from division rival Houston, where he worked for the past two seasons as the team's Director of Scouting.  Before working for the Rockets, Madkins served as a scout for the New York Knicks from 2003-2007. He moved from New York to Seattle as a scout for the Seattle Supersonics in 2007-2008.  . . . Following his playing career, Madkins entered coaching, working as an assistant at California State University, Stanislaus and at UCLA before entering professional basketball.

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On the recruiting front the pursuit goes on for Jahii Carson.  Jahii is four star recruit and what is most interesting is the feeling among recruits that we are Point Guard U, even an Arizona writer is admitting it.  Of course, as with the McCallum dream the last line of the excerpt points out one must keep in mind loyalty does not really begin until a LOI is signed.  

UCLA coach Ben Howland and his staff are selling to Carson the NBA standouts the Bruins have produced at the point guard position, which is more impressive than Arizona in the last decade.

The Bruins boast recent point guards who are on the cusp of making it big in the NBA - Jrue Holiday, Russell Westbrook, and Darren Collison. Arizona's last three regular starting point guards - Jason Gardner, Mustafa Shakur and Nic Wise - have yet to play an NBA game in the regular season.

The letters NBA catch a recruit's attention as much as the words, "Playing time." UCLA is offering both to Carson. Hence, Carson's comment recently that UCLA is the new leader for his services. The merits of that comment lasted a day before Carson started playing in the Duel in the Desert in Phoenix (in front of Miller and ASU coach Herb Sendek) last week.

 

All recruiting stories need to be taken with a grain of salt and a healthy dose of skepticism.  Enter the wwl story on the signing with their dads of Ray McCallum and Trey Zigler.  According to the story, UCLA was the very close runner up for both boys.  Hmm.  Not sure I buy that but to all those Dads out there apparently the way to convince your son to go to your school is to talk to them while they are playing video games or otherwise not paying attention. 

Sons have chosen to play for their fathers countless times. But rarely has there been a pair of sons who could have played at the highest level -- both were heavily recruited by UCLA -- but chose to play for their fathers at lower-profile schools.

Zeigler, a 6-foot-5 guard out of Mt. Pleasant High in Michigan, ranked as the eighth-best shooting guard and the No. 33 player overall by ESPNU's Scouts, Inc. McCallum Jr., a 6-1 point guard, was rated as the fifth-best point guard and No. 17 overall in the Class of 2010.  . . .

Both fathers said their sons wanted to go through the recruiting process. Zeigler coached at UCLA under Ben Howland so there was a natural pull for Trey. McCallum was recruited by the Bruins as well, quite simply because he's one of the better guards in the class.

How the fathers handled the recruitment process was unique though. As hard as it is to believe, neither parent said they pushed their sons -- or even put on the fullcourt recruiting press -- until it got down to the final days. The discussion at home, they said, wasn't about their respective schools. They were dads first -- not the head coaches who could have program-changing players. . ..

They considered going to UCLA together. . . .

McCallum's talk with his son was a bit more intimate. Well, at least it was at home. The two talked in the basement of their home that Sunday morning after the trip to Louisville.  "I gave him my final push,'' said Ray Sr., who has been an assistant at Oklahoma, Indiana and Wisconsin as well as head coach at Ball State and Houston. "He just listened. He didn't say anything. He was just playing video games.''  McCallum said he didn't know what his son was going to do on the morning of the announcement April 14. The players were set to make announcements on ESPNU at 4 p.m. "I was getting a haircut when Ray called me at 2 p.m. and said 'Dad, go by the equipment room and go get a UD jersey.' That was just two hours before,'' Ray Sr. said. "He never actually came out and said, 'I'm coming to UD.'''  McCallum said Ray called Howland. Ernie said he had Trey call Howland, and he called as well since the two are friends and had worked together previously.

The real moral is UCLA got used, especially by McCallum whose Dad never even looked at another PG.  I am not bitter like I was many years ago when JR Reid dissed UCLA but on the other hand I am not sure I would trust the senior McCallum to tell me the time of day.

Go Bruins. 

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JR Reid

Maybe I am too young to know how the Reid story ended at UCLA, all I remember, is that he was one Lavins blue collar type guys. WHats the story on him?

A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil

by MaltBaa on Aug 5, 2010 7:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Reid

Happened before Jim Harrick’s time at UCLA. So I don’t even know the full story.

by Nestor on Aug 5, 2010 7:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

my bad

I was thinking of Travis Reid.

A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil

by MaltBaa on Aug 5, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reid toyed with UCLA

It was long before that during Hazzard’s time. There was some discussion here. A little more background on it.

Reid was the can’t miss recruit of the time. He was an amazing athlete. He said former bruin David Greenwood was his favorite player and seemed to be leaning toward UCLA. He spoke of UCLA as his favorite team.

On the day he came for his recruiting visit to UCLA the crowd went crazy. A number of kids wore Greenwood UCLA jerseys and crossed out the name Greenwood and wrote in Reid’s name. I don’t even remember who we were playing (I think Cal so it was not a meaningless game) but the crowd spent much of the game chanting Reid’s name. He even took a bow. Even Bruin walk had signs for Reid.

Reid seemed to be coming to UCLA but opted for NC instead. UCLA fans, especially students, were livid. We thought we had Reid. Many felt Reid lied to UCLA. To put it in more modern terms, it would have been like Kevin Love at the last minute announced he was going to Duke. However unlike Love, the stakes were higher because one of the reasons the students and fans went so crazy for Reid because we saw him as a potential savior for the program. We were not coming off a final four or even close.

The next year we happened to play NC. From the Introductions to every time he touched the ball, Reid was booed or worse. We pulled off an upset of NC in one of the biggest wins of the mediocre Hazzard era. I have to say the crowd being so pumped had to help.

Reid proved to be a bit of jerk who had some discipline problems at NC and arguably never lived up to the hype. However, for anyone at UCLA at the time, he will be remembered as someone who the red carpet was rolled out for only for him to spit on it. I can’t think of an equivalent recruiting event but there may be one.

by DCBruins on Aug 5, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like

Cherokee Parks. Well we gave him the business when he rolled back to town as a Dukee.

by Nestor on Aug 5, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah a little

I was at both and remember at the time thinking Reid was much more intense. However, I must admit it is different sitting with the Alumni than the students.

by DCBruins on Aug 5, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

From what I heard...

Both boys called Howland that weekend and said they were coming to UCLA. I heard it was quite a shock on Monday.

by lil eg not cs on Aug 5, 2010 8:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

JR Reid and Cherokee Parks

FYI, during both of these recruitments, I was close to the BB program and had season tickets to the games. I remember the JR Reid occasion at Pauley and felt at the time that he was just getting in a trip to LA. Same for Cherokee although I thought we were a bit better in the running for him. Neither player appeared to me to be UCLA “material” and seemed aloof when coming to UCLA to visit. Just my impressions.
Bill

Mensgym

by Mensgym on Aug 5, 2010 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

You could be right on Reid

Looking at Reid as an adult, his choice makes sense for him. NC is close to Virginia Beach where Reid grew up. Also playing for Dean Smith vs. Walt Hazzard.

But at the time it was a betrayal. The Daily Bruin wrote about his coming on campus hyping it huge and as the team was down at the time it was a big moment in the season.

In my mind, he was one of the few NC players to under achieve in the pros. He had an amazing basketball body but seemingly did not have the heart or head to go to the next level. Maybe he wasn’t UCLA material but man we would have been happy to have him at first.

Parks I was never as high on as I knew about his High School game in more detail. I was not convinced he was the next big thing and he “had” to come as UCLA was his home town school. That said, I would have loved to have him.

by DCBruins on Aug 5, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Parks was a local kid and more of a known quantity

Reid was the hot shot recruit from back east, basically everybody’s all-american. Nobody out here had seen him play before, so there was more of an aura when he made his recruiting visit. The vitriol towards Reid came about because he gave everyone the impression that he was coming to UCLA.

I don’t recall Parks embracing UCLA all that much. Yeah, the student body went nuts every time he visited Pauley. But, people knew more about him since he was local, and I never got the impression that he was stringing UCLA along.

by Woochifer on Aug 5, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

That is why initial said Reid was more intense and more like Kevin Love, the national wunderkind of that year.

by DCBruins on Aug 6, 2010 3:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know about the histrionics with UCLA and Reid...

but I knew he was a beast at UNC. He was huge for his time seemed destined for greatness in the NBA. But alas, he flamed out, fast.

Here’s an interesting article on Rivals that lists Reid as the #8 all time “NCAA Riches to NBA Rags” for those who care.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/NCAA-Riches-to-NBA-Rags-No-8-J-R-Reid?urn=ncaab-169160

by DoubleTroubleBruin on Aug 5, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

by the way, #9 is Adam Morrison

and his writeup includes a 30 second tear riddled clip from a certain game in 2006 in Oakland against our UCLA Bruins that you all may remember… Go Bruiins

by DoubleTroubleBruin on Aug 5, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yet

he has more rings than LeBron, Wade, and Bosh combined. It’s a crazy world we live in…

"He has to want it because talent only takes you so far. How much you want it is the difference between good and great." - Rick Neuheisel

by SonsOfWestwood on Aug 5, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I hope...

…that LeA**hole never wins one.

by Bellerophon on Aug 5, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Reid was a beast but obviously had issues

With a good coach like Smith he did well in college. (However, he was suspended by the team for the NCAA Tourney first game one year, never a good sign.)

In the pros without someone over him, he fell apart.

by DCBruins on Aug 5, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard to argue with, really...

Ed O was an amazing college player. I was lucky enough to watch his every home game through his junior year. For whatever reason, his pro career just fizzled. The writer of the article is careful to emphasize that every player on the list was a stud in college.

In the immortal words of the pin I got while an undergrad: Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Aug 5, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

King Ed

never could get over being homesick and having to play in Jersey (!). He was hoping to be drafted by a team west of Utah, and there were many of them. With a kid, being so far away just sapped him, I think. And did I mention it was Jersey?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 5, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

King Ed's Knee

was terrible and could not take an 82 game schedule. He was a great guy in every sense of the word but after his injury his knee was never the same. His knee was so bad that some teams would not drafted him and NJ was criticized for doing so.

by DCBruins on Aug 5, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard that it took Ed O more than two years just to get back to where he was in HS

People who saw him play at Artesia HS said that Ed O’Bannon was one of those once in a decade players. He had a great feel for the game, a great work ethic, and ridiculous athleticism. The knee injury took a huge toll. He was still a smart player and worked his tail off, but that ACL recovery took him a year just to get back on the court, and over a year to regain some semblance of his athleticism. His senior year was when he got back to his high school shape.

Crazy to think how great he would have been if not for that injury. Of course, if he panned out the way everybody thought he would coming out of high school, we might have only gotten two years out of him before going pro, and never made it back to the Final Four in 1995 when we had that perfect blend of senior leadership and depth with the underclassmen.

by Woochifer on Aug 5, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before Reid

There were Gene Banks and later John Williams. Banks went to Duke, Williams, a local guy, to LSU.

Both had decent careers but were certainly not world-beaters.

Banks was most notable because he was about the first major recruit who chose not to go to UCLA in the post-Wooden era.

by Herodotus on Aug 6, 2010 5:18 AM PDT reply actions  

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