Spaulding Roundup: "Bruins On 3"
With just days to go till the first day of Summer Training camp, it appears that the beat writers are finally gearing up for football. The current fad is about asking "questions." Everyone has questions about the UCLA football program. None of them are really original as we have gone through most of them while we were going through depth charts. Still gives us something to talk about during these dog days of summer.
Blair Angulo from ESPNLA posed his "five camp-related questions that need some clarification before kick-off at Kansas State on Sept. 4." I think his question regarding Darius Bell is intriguing:
To what extent will newcomer Darius Bell be utilized?
This answer hinges on whether UCLA's new "revolver" offensive package is really meant for quarterback Kevin Prince. Speculation about the alignment's intent began to build when Bell, a transfer from San Francisco City College, was rumored to be coming to Westwood. The brother of former Bruin tailback Khalil Bell combined for 2,733 all-purpose yards last year -- so he may be an option in the run-oriented scheme.
Additionally, Neuheisel may redshirt backup Richard Brehaut if Bell thrives and shows he can handle whatever offensive coordinator Norm Chow throws at him.
Well, I think wondering whether the "revolver" offensive package is meant for Prince is kind of silly. As Norm Chow mentioned we actually ran that offensive package number of times last year. The formation is more designed to boost the UCLA running game and it also fits the type of QB who is fairly mobile. I think lot of reporters are really underestimating Prince's ability to move around (which he clearly displayed last season). For us, the biggest concern is Prince staying healthy. While football is a dangerous sport where injuries happen, Prince just needs to make sure he takes necessary basic precautions to minimize his chances to get hurt.
As for Bell, I don't think it will be a surprise at all if Chow and Rick Neuheisel designs special packages in which both Prince and Bell are in the game at the same time. When you have two guys in there who both poses dual threat, it will put the opposing defense even more on their heels. Of course all of this depends on Bell picking up the offensive scheme and fitting in. We will see how the camp plays out.
Following Angulo, Gold also posted his five "burning questions" (yep, they are all so original) heading into summer camp (we will just call it summer camp from hereonout because calling it "Fall" camp in August just sounds silly):
Will the Revolver offense work? A quick caveat: While I am just as culpable as all the other media members, I think we've made a bit too much out of the WHOLE NEW OFFENSE!!!
Norm Chow has tried to hammer it home a thousand times and people (again, me included) just don't want to listen - UCLA is not reinventing the wheel here. Yes, the Revolver will look a little different, but it's not as if the team is going into the Wing-T.
The key, as Rick Neuheisel pointed out at the recent Pac-10 media day, is understanding when to deploy the creative avenues gained from the Revolver formation. Don't expect Kevin Prince to be Michael Vick, but yes, he'll be incorporated into the running game more freely.
Crystal Ball: People will quickly realize that the offense is pretty simple, and the questions will stop by Week 3.
I doubt the questions will stop because it takes a while for reporters to understand and take in "simple" concepts. Still appreciate Gold's recognition that he along with rest of the tradmed. have made a little too much out of the "revolver" package in our offense.
What most of these guys have missed is that CRN has had a history of adapting and adjusting his offense to fit the skillset of the players in his team. We pointed this out earlier this summer in a small fanpost pointing to a nugget from John Berkwotiz of UWDawgPound, who is very familiar with CRN adopting his offense to fit the natural talents of his players. Berkwotiz compared installing the revolver package this season to what CRN did with Marques Tuiasosopo up in Seattle. As mentioned if Prince has half the success of what Tui experienced during his Rose Bowl Championship season, we are going to be in good shape.
Speaking of Prince, if you want to get a sense of what he and his team-mates have been up to this summer, then just take a look at this 8 minute video from Joe Fauria that was posted over at Jersey Chasers. Joe takes us through what he and his team-mates have been going through summer before the training camp:
It's pretty eye opening stuff. This kids get up before 6 am and don't get home from workouts, classes, practices, and study time until late at night.
Also, Kevin Prince looks like a monster. He looks like a LB and it was pretty telling how he was all business while heading into those 7-on-7 workouts. I think with Prince and Kia leading the offense, and Rahim and Akeem leading the D, this is perhaps the most focused set of leaders we have had in a long time. Hopefully all their hard work and dedication will start paying off starting Monday. They deserve it.
GO BRUINS.
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“As for Bell, I don’t think it will be a surprise at all if Chow and Rick Neuheisel designs special packages in which both Prince and Chow are in the game at the same time. When you have two guys in there who both poses dual threat, it will put the opposing defense even more on their heels. Of course all of this depends on Bell picking up the offensive scheme and fitting in. We will see how the camp plays out.”
I think you mean “in which both Prince and Bell are in the game at the same time” although I’d love to see what Chow could do on the field.
Prince and Chow are in the game at the same time?
I knew the o-line was still an issue but WOW!
If coaches can play now
The Tyus Edney thing makes even more sense.
by littlebrother on Aug 5, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Fauria video
Great video! Shows you how hard these kids work. I especially liked Fauria’s attention to the nutritional value of his diet. A twenty year old eating egg whites, zucchini and turkey patties. Very impressive.
Absolutely!
Check out the maturity and discipline of these guys (including healthy eating). That is increasingly rare in college-students. These student athletes provide good role models for the rest of UCLA students (at U$C – they are good role models for gangsta’s b/c they don’t use violence … oops, never mind ;)
From personal experience, a lot of these guys are more serious in the classroom than the regular students because failing a class can spell ineligibility – and they can’t drop a class just because it’s too tough. They have to gut it out. Also, they cannot always pick which classes they take like regular students. They may have tutors and extra resources but they have no room for screwing up – and often have compliance guys e-mailing their instructors for periodic reports – and their chops get busted if they skip class. [Note: this only applies to real schools not ‘farming teams’ like $C, and their ilk]
by KnudsenRockne on Aug 5, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely
I know if I had to eat 8000 calories a day I’d be doing at taco bell
8000 calories
I can’t imagine doing that everyday…
My worry about Revolver is why we may be playing it
As Nestor writes:
The formation is more designed to boost the UCLA running game
To put it in the most extreme terms, are we so desperate for a running game that we are resorting to gimmicks? That is my worry. The last two years, the totals of our our leading rushers has been the lowest since 1963-64.
More reasonably, Revolver is not our main offense but a way to get more out of the offense. Hopefully, this year we have a good and consistent rushing game, if a new formation helps that happen, great.
The revolver is not really a gimmick
We’ll be using it merely as a way to force the defense to respect the QB as a running threat. Prince has good legs so it makes sense but i think we’ll be surprised how few times Prince will have to actually run to make the formation effective.
by DoubleTroubleBruin on Aug 5, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
coming at it from a position of weakness...
I think you are right to question: would we be doing this if we hadn’t been so bad at running the ball previously?
One answer might be – as DTB suggests – that adding this wrinkle actually utilizes some more parts of KPrince’s skillset, and so reflects more a development of our strengths than a desperation move to hide weaknesses. If we end up using it as a way to utilize Bell as well, then that is an alternative development of our talent.
Potentially think about how the Dolphins have used the wildcat – more often than a gimmick, but as a way to get more of their talented running backs onto the field at the same time. Could be seen as a desperate move to deal with not having much of a passing threat, or as a sensible way of maximizing talents.
But in any case – while using the Revolver might conceivably show we don’t have the personnel ideally suited to more conventional schemes – and so might be worrisome from a talent perspective – it seems that if the coaches think this maximizes the talent we have on the roster, then whether we are doing it from strength or weakness is somewhat moot.
by britishbruin on Aug 5, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Yup. This is a way to play to our strengths plus add variety and
unpredictability to our offense.
In four years, when our QB, RB, OL and WR corps have different
abilities – and the revolver formation isn’t as novel – it may not make
sense to run it at all.
But right now, with the players we have, running basically the same
offense as Dorrell did doesn’t make sense (if you expect different results).
FWIW: I don’t consider the revolver as a ‘gimmick’ because those
only work once or twice a season and then it’s only when they catch
them by surprise. The revolver is just a another formation but different
enough that makes their defense adjust so it keeps them from getting
into the zone.
by KnudsenRockne on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Our rushing problems
have in part been a reflection of our RBs, but MJD would have had a hard time behind our OL lately. While the OL is by all accounts improved, I’d be surprised if they were excellent this year. If the revolver creates more productivity for our talented skill players by lessening the repetition of Donahue-esque runs up the middle, I’m all for it.
In the immortal words of the pin I got while an undergrad: Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
I agree.
Line play is responsible for the anemic running attack for two consecutive years. In fact, two years ago, not only couldn’t we run, but the passers had to run for their lives.
In a word: yes
But the revolver isn’t a gimmick. It’s a transition in the offense to allow for some of the existing skills of the players to boost the running game.
It’s not gimmicky if it works, and hopefully it does.
And if you want some perspective for X's and O's
It’s a twist, or slight adjustment, on the One Back (See Alabama for best example) and the Spread offensive systems. Adds more time/quickens Play Action plays for the passing game, and utilizes Isolation running plays. And since Prince is quick enough, allows for the zone read to be implemented in a One Back system.
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Aug 5, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
This video shows
Team Unity…One of the most underrated aspect of team play. I know all of us like to look at numbers to compare a season, or an athlete’s production too. But, team unity is huge, and from looking at this video, the team is finally buying in to what CRN is saying.
The revolver is not a gimmick. It’s another way to keep KP alive without getting sacked. Ucla has all of these skilled weapons, but because of the OL, KP can’t get the ball to the skill players. Offense and really any sport is a rhythm game. If you have a player (or defensive player) disrupting rhythm, then you will have a lot of 3 and outs. Not to mention a tired defense.
I saw freshman AB taking a hand off in the video. I can’t wait for this season to start…I’m very excited that there hard work will pay off in WINS!!
Can Bell and Prince block?
How about catch a pass?
They could probably create a lot of havoc if the defense never knew which was playing QB and which was playing RB…
QB's out on a pass route
Every time you send your qb out in traffic, you’re really setting him up to blindsided by some headhunter.
This
While Prince may look like a linebacker, I guarantee he has no idea how to hit like one.
Even Tebow got a concussion and that guy’s built like a freakin’ lumberjack.
Don't have to run a route to catch a lateral
If two guys can QB (which is more than just throwing) and catch, then the D cannot focus on just one. Having a ‘back up QB’ on field can turn a broken play into a TD.
For this to work more than twice, Bell has to be a reasonable threat as a QB – not a first string QB but just able to consistently find & hit open players. That would give the D some headaches… especially since Bell can throw or run.
Man, the season cannot get here soon enough!!!
by KnudsenRockne on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
This sounds like the A-11
Nothing more than a gimmick. Oregon creates havoc because the defense doesn’t know if the QB is playing Quarterback or Running back, same principle.
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Aug 5, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
who gives a crap if its a gimmick??
all I want is to see our offense put up points and win games.
RESCUING DANCE MUSIC FROM THE BLAHS
You won't win games without that
Its a gimmick if it doesn’t work consistently. I don’t want an offense designed around trick plays
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Aug 5, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe we should go all
Tom Osborne on them and pull a fumblerooski. I’m all for a little deception and maybe 1-2 trick plays a game.
RESCUING DANCE MUSIC FROM THE BLAHS
Fauria
I’ve heard about him being the jokester of the team and now I see the truth behind it. He is going to be one of my favorite bruins, I can tell he’ll have a good career here at UCLA
As you and I have discussed before N,
I just cannot stand the idea of having a two quarterback system. Whether its X’s & O’s or not, Prince and Bell have to compete for who is the best quarterback, not who is the best player for a certain formation, if you get my drift.
Formerly ucla13_usc9
My two cents on the Revolver
I am not all that worried about Prince getting injured or even hit. When UCLA ran the Veer, or anyone running the option offense, the QB seldom got hurt as he was running by design rather than for his life. I think Air Force still runs the Flexbone. I feel that getting hit in the pocket from the blindside, or Tebow style, or running out of the endzone without a mouth guard in is way more threatening than having an offensive set where the QB might run with the ball.
Prince is a big kid, and I think he will be fine. Anything that forces a defense to account for the QB should keep the defense from Teeing off on a vulnerable guy in the pocket. I hope to see the run game improve to about 150 YPG this season, and pass production to go up to 250 YPG.
Of course, I am usually overly optimistic this time of year. ; )
Re Flexbone
Air Force, Navy, Army and Georgia Tech are best known for running the flexbone. Loosely, Air Force has modernized a little though. And I agree, Prince running downhill, instead of “for his life” will prevent injury
Formerly ucla13_usc9
by Josh Schlichter on Aug 5, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The Revolver is the closest thing to the old single-wing that UCLA was one of the last to use
We were one of the last major colleges, if not the last, to abandon the old single wing formation with the triple-threat tailback like Billy Kilmer. The Revolver is even closer to the old single wing than the shotgun because the former focuses more on the running potential of the QB while the latter focuses more on traditional pocket passing. So I think it is altogether fitting and proper that the Revolver is coming to UCLA.
In fact, I would love it if the Bruins came out of the huddle serpentine in their traditional 1967 uniforms. That would be awesome. I know it’s hard to believe but they used to come out serpentine before every offensive play!
For what it’s worth, I think think the old single wing could make a comeback if schools like UCLA start recruiting dual threat running backs like the old single wing tailbacks. Though “ancient,” the formation is still the best one for power running football teams because two big tackles are double-stacked on one side of the line. Just imagine a Donovan McNabb type QB in that offense.
I am sure my nostalgia is getting the better of me, but I like the move towards the Revolver. It certainly is no gimmick. It is a solid formation based on fundamental principles of football. It can only help.
Thank goodness college football season is almost here and the Bruins are perfectly poised as sleepers to take everybody by surprise. I love it!
Well, with all these defenses having to gear for the 5-wide, spread offenses,
it wouldn’t surprise me if the single-wing and flexbone/wishbone became more effective because then defensive coordinators are asking 5 corners and 2 linebackers to tackle a running back already going north-south instead of covering receivers.
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